If you had 2K to buy a existing website that is for sale on Flippa or anywhere else what would it be

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I am curious if you had 2 grand to work with and you were looking to buy a site right now what site would you buy? What would you purchase on which site and why? Just curious in knowing what people look for and what they find to be a better investment than others.

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  • Profile picture of the author B.Smit
    I would buy a site with some existing traffic and possibly some revenue - if no revenue but a steady stream of traffic, perhaps something can be done to make money.

    I'd go for an evergreen niche, unless the topic is very hot right now and will be for long enough to at least make some return on my investment.

    I'd go for a site with organic traffic potential. I would then spend some of the 2K on outsourcing for more quality content, i.e. at the very least $5 per article and possibly more (I wouldn't waste my money on cheap nonsense).

    If the site has any viral potential, something inspirational or content/information not readily available on 1000 other sites, I'd be willing to pay a little more.

    To conclude: unless the site is a red hot money machine and for some reason the owner wants to sell, I would pay $1500 for a site with revenue potential in an evergreen niche (small or large), and then spend $500 on content and marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dresden14
    I looked at flippa today, rediculous. I have money but was thinking about dropping my money into passive income sources of some sort. For example; a site that was making $1k a mo on averaged wanted 40k. I mean come on, 40 months for return, thats a long fn time.

    Same rule applies, saw a 140/mo site selling for 3k.

    Rediculous imo
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Zalesky
      Yep I see the same thing....Thing is that I have done IM off and on for several years now. So SEO and all that stuff I understand. Its just now I dont have the time to produce everything without outsourcing it. So I was told by several full time IMer's that I should just buy an existing site. But all I see is sites going for 20k that only make rubish. And not even sure if they will return what they cost. The other issue though to is that people are paying it somehow lol. I am looking for adsense sites making money or a good blog to take over etc. I need the second income within the next year to compensate for what I lost in the divorce I went through. So hoping to find some sort of road to travel on here and get a good income part time. Looking for a 1000 a month overall with my IM venture. I have several thousand I can invest just want to make sure its in the right place.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dash Evra
      Originally Posted by Dresden14 View Post

      I looked at flippa today, rediculous. I have money but was thinking about dropping my money into passive income sources of some sort. For example; a site that was making $1k a mo on averaged wanted 40k. I mean come on, 40 months for return, thats a long fn time.

      Same rule applies, saw a 140/mo site selling for 3k.

      Rediculous imo
      About 10X of monthly revenue seems to be what the going sale rate is on flippa.

      It's not ridiculous. Many buyers that go to Flippa have some serious money to invest. Let say for example, a site is generating $1000 revenue using $500 in advertising. Then, in theory it can make $10000 per month with a $5000/month advertising budget. Do the math and see how long will it take to see some profit then. Plus, the monetization method can be changed to something more productive. Buying such site for 10k would not be a bad investment in the hand of an experienced marketer. Make sense?

      You are making the assumption that the new owner will simply sit on the site doing absolutely nothing and just hope for the best. Now, that's ridiculous.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Zalesky
        Back to the original question then what site would you purchase? Or would you just start from scratch?
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      • Originally Posted by Dash Evra View Post

        Let say for example, a site is generating $1000 revenue using $500 in advertising. Then, in theory it can make $10000 per month with a $5000/month advertising budget. Do the math and see how long will it take to see some profit then.
        Not everything scales. Not everything scales in a linear fashion.

        This is a common fallacy among IMers, I find. If you look at building traffic like mining, the ore (visitors) that's easy to get to can be pulled out of the ground (brought to your site) relatively cheaply compared to the 40 or 50% that you have to blast for and build reinforced tunnels to get to.

        In fact, I would venture a guess that at least some of these sites are on Flippa because the present owners have discovered they've hit a wall, also known as the law of diminishing returns.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Zalesky
      Chris I agree for a established business but for a site thats only been up and running less than a year to go for 8 thousand with an earning of 200 a month is a little nutz in my mind. Maybe ive been out of the market to long i dont know but that seems a bit high to me. I sold a site 2 years ago that paid me big but it was a site that was 8 years old and making over 1,800 a month. Had to get rid of it due to no time to work it and I was losing money or value. If it would have sold for 40 times that hell I could have quit my job and went to work full time in the IM area. But these sites that are being built from scratch and listed for 8 grand is a little nutz. I look at it the same way I would buy a small business and you dont see most small businesses going for that much mark up. Unless its the next great thing to come or something.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dash Evra
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      Are you kidding? 40 months is nothing, you should look at the real world. You'd be more likely to pay 10 years+ !!

      I think you're being a little greedy. 40 months to get your money back is not much at all. After that, it's all gravy.
      Exactly. The ROI would just keep increasing every month after those initial 40 months
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      Are you kidding? 40 months is nothing, you should look at the real world. You'd be more likely to pay 10 years+ !!

      I think you're being a little greedy. 40 months to get your money back is not much at all. After that, it's all gravy.
      But the difference is - online time moves quickly. If you buy a site that gets its traffic from articles and Google changes their algo you can lose your traffic and NEVER get your money back.

      There's a lot more risk than most people seem to realise.
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    • Profile picture of the author chykee
      Flippa is a great place to buy and sell website, even WF is looking very promising now. The advantage over buying an already established money making site is extremely great, that is why sellers prefer to give away their site for about 5months to 10 years aggregate income......If you ask me, i wouldn't buy a site with more that 2 years aggregate income..
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert X
    Be caucious! MAke sure this site you intend to buy is gonna work with Google's algorithems. They say that they're gonna have about 500 changes this year above the panda BS. So,, things are gonna be getting a little different. It's hard to say how different,, but,, be carefull.
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  • Profile picture of the author terrencewan
    I wouldn't put all my eggs into
    one basket.
    If i got $2k to play with,
    i will purchase several sites
    that i think had potential for
    growth and monitor from there.

    Just like IM, i wouldn't use
    one method to drive traffic to
    my landing page, i will use as much
    ways as possible, some free ways,
    some paid, etc....
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    People ITT need to realize that G, Yahoo, and Bing cannot be controlled, only influenced. You can control the location of your brick and mortar business, but good luck controlling your SERPs for over 3 years.


    Sites asking for any more than 18x revenue on Flippa is ridiculous, considering the majority of them haven't been operating or profitable for over two years.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky View Post

    I am curious if you had 2 grand to work with and you were looking to buy a site right now what site would you buy? What would you purchase on which site and why? Just curious in knowing what people look for and what they find to be a better investment than others.

    Jason
    The new big thing is video sites - I intend to set up and sell these very shortly - you can pull in all sorts of niches in from YouTube to entertain your visitors and the site would have ad boxes here and there to monetize the site.

    Some video sites that allow visitors to upload their own videos - instead of YouTube ones - have subsequently sold for millions. So a good investment for the future there, but not everyone would want to all that work looking after a site like that, just a YouTube video site for the ads would mostly do.
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      I was looking on there yesterday and was surprised at the prices, pleasantly though because I was just starting to build a website to sell and that's the first one I've built with that intention.

      2K would pay for quite a lot of outsourcing so I would use it to build rather than buy.
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    • Profile picture of the author traderbenji
      Originally Posted by Tony Dean View Post

      The new big thing is video sites - I intend to set up and sell these very shortly - you can pull in all sorts of niches in from YouTube to entertain your visitors and the site would have ad boxes here and there to monetize the site.

      Some video sites that allow visitors to upload their own videos - instead of YouTube ones - have subsequently sold for millions. So a good investment for the future there, but not everyone would want to all that work looking after a site like that, just a YouTube video site for the ads would mostly do.
      A word of warning on this, I looked at this two weeks ago but you may have problems with youtubes TOS and also google.
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  • Profile picture of the author aulia
    for 2K...

    i will buy 50 EXACT MATCH DOMAIN With 2K Exact Match/Months + at least $1 CPC ($500)

    then

    Create/Buy 50 Seo Optimized Article as a Content ($25)

    then

    placed adsense within website

    then

    Rent VPS ($30/months)

    then

    Buy AMR ($70)
    SenukeX ($147/Months)
    Buy ScrapeBox ($57)

    then "BLAST" All websites everyday

    i guess... you will make at least $50/day within 6 months

    now you should research the niche + EMD

    you can hire me to research if you want
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    I would buy a site that has a massive existing traffic and some revenue. That way, it is not difficult to maintain anymore. You just have to manage it accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Zalesky
    A lot of good posts since I was on last night. So do you guys still think that the adsense micro niche sites are still a good way of making income? Or is that a waste of time? I have seen in the last few days a lot of the video type sites for sale so I figured they were what people are looking for. Since also there is one that was going for 20k that wasnt even a year old yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author raiko
      It's a difficult decision overall. It really comes down to whether you're looking at things with a short term perspective or a longer term one. In the real short term video sites may be the way to go and you'll need to create them, market them and sell them as quickly as possible because they WILL fade in popularity over time as more and more site marketers build and sell them. Short term fad type sites are very easy to find on Flippa. Probably 98% of the sites there are built to be turned over quickly. The sellers build tons of automated links to them and increase the rankings quickly then sell them. You'll notice that most sites haven't even been around a year and a site that has only been online for a few months is considered "established".

      If you have a long term perspective you'll want a site that you are genuinely interested in. It's tough to spend a lot of time and effort on a site who's content bores you. So, you'll need to find something interesting that can be built up over time. These sites are very hard to find and usually sell for a far larger multiple of earnings then fad sites because everyone who knows what they are doing can see the value.

      I've done both and prefer the long term perspective. But, it can get frustrating at times watching 3 month old, cookie cutter, backlink spammed sites selling for decent money over and over. They have a strong appeal to many buyers' belief that they can make money quickly so they are in high demand. Remember all the **** berry sites? Ugh. If you built and flipped those sites you probably made very good money for a while. In most cases they aren't really a long term prospect though. And, the building and flipping is really just a job and not "passive" income.

      Personally I would be patient and try to find a good quality site in a good quality niche (not necessarily micro niche) and spend the money on that. A site that has been established for at least a year but preferably more. It will take some time though because you'll be lucky to find one or two on Flippa at any particular time. And, for $2k you'll be limited to smaller sites with lower revenue. But, as has been mentioned previously you can always look for ways to improve the monetization of the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author eagertolearn
    Why go thru the middle man. Find a few site and email the admin an offer directly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seanjtucker
    filter results buy the most popular niche then out of those filter it by profits. then spend the money
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    I would buy a site with good traffic because I would be able to transform it to a good blog (if it is a blog) by writing good content and stuff. For 2k i think you could have something decent but nothing really big.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Zalesky
    So would this be a site you would purchase? Why or why not?

    https://flippa.com/132264-27K-Unique...th---Automated
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    • Profile picture of the author energyguy
      So would this be a site you would purchase? Why or why not?

      https://flippa.com/132264-27K-Unique...th---Automated

      No. I stay away from sites that have brand/tm names. It's amazing how many of them there are on flippa. IMO you're just begging to throw your money away.
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  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    agreed....i have been bitten by buying a site with a trade mark in it and had to shut it down after the lawyers threatened legal action.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisyates
    Great question. I'd look for sites with at least 6 months of earning history and at least a year of traffic history. Then I'd filter it out by sites that are in evergreen markets. Then I'd further filter it out by sites that are undermonetized.

    Why? For two reasons:
    1.) There is a good chance I can keep the revenue at the same level it has been.
    2.) There is a good chance I can increase the revenue (value) of the site.
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