Domain Appraisal Scam Alert - Still Going.

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Warning to everyone: (Hopefully Google will READ this.)

I registered 6 Domains yesterday at GoDaddy, then Listed them on SEDO.
Within about 12 hours I received an email from the address:

michael-hardman@your-domain-hosting.com

It had the usual features: (So I found out)

__________________________________________________ ___________
Hello,

We are interested in your domain name for sale.

Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line.

If you have other names for sale please email us yiur full list with prices for consideration.

Looking forward to doing business with you.

Regards,

Michael Hardeman

CEO

Web Hosting & Domains LLC
michael-hardeman@your-domain-hosting.com
__________________________________________________ ___________


I like always check out things like this before hand:

Registered By:

James Whitham
12 Regent Close
Saxton Road
Willerby
Hull
HU10-6HJ

dntrader@hotmail.com
024 866 54493

Registered Same Day as my domains, yesterday at Godaddy.

A Quick online check of the Hotmail email address confirmed this as a SCAM to get a payment for a fake domain appraisal.

This Scammer has been doing it for years.

Don't Fall For IT.
#alert #appraisal #domain #scam
  • Profile picture of the author whaldorf
    The old "Jimmy Whitman" scam eh?

    The man's a disgrace, his shoddy effort will put a lot of reputable scam artists out of work

    Thanks for the tip-off limestone614!
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  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    He's still at it. Very persistent.
    (I haven't let him know I realise it's a scam.)

    How should I respond?

    Here is the message I just received:
    __________________________________________________ _______

    800. Ok.

    Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
    appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
    important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
    company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
    independent sources I and my partners trust.

    To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
    companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and
    buyers:

    [the name pros .com / archive / 41269853.htm]

    Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

    Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

    If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
    accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
    discount.

    After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
    obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

    What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
    transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

    Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

    Looking forward to your reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author dtommy79
    I put together a list of these bast**ds here Warning! Beware of scams!

    and added some advice what people may do who fall for them
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    I get them too - I just report the Spam and scame to the domain registrar. Never hear anything back about it though. :/
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
    Banned
    Just delete the message or respond back and tell them they are a scammer and be done with it. This has been going around for so long that cavemen used to get the message carved out on stones.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    thanks for the heads up but im still surprised that some people still go for scams!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
    Just tell them that he is welcome to get it appraised if he thinks it is warranted, but as you are not basing your price on an appraisal, it won't make a difference in the sales price. The point of an auction is that it only takes one person to set the value if what is being auctioned. If they think that is what the item is worth, then so it is. Explain to him that if he can sleep better at night thanks to an appraisal, he's welcome to get one, but you'll not pay for it or take it onto account.

    Then tell him if he wants to buy the domain, you have a special escrow company he has to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author BuyTheLADodgers
    THIS GUY IS STILL AT IT ....

    Thanks to limestome614 for the post. The ONLY reason why I joined this site today is to let you know that Google picked up this post after I did a search about this guy and his "company." I got a curious email sent to an email this morning that I am not sure how he found the address, but that's what sent the red flag. I have an email set up for my BuyTheLADodgers.com name and when it came to another one of my emails that I use other than the one that corresponded with this specific domain name .... IT WAS A MASSIVE RED FLAG (it's also on eBay as well and I did not get a message via there either). Not sure how this sneaky guy found one of my other email account to reach me, but here did (perhaps GoDaddy?). Anyway, as of this morning, here is still at it and I almost fell for it. I even almost sent a reply with just a link to the eBay listing ... but I did not even do that. Who knows what this guy may be phishing for with info, I'll pass. Thanks to this post, I did not and won't bother. Thank you limestone614, this forum, and trusty Google .... as I do appreciate your collective efforts here. Thank you!

    PS: To make this even weirder for me ... I actually personally know TWO guys with the name Michael Hardeman. I'll let these guys know their name is attached to a scam (albeit not them I am very certain).
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  • Profile picture of the author allegrity
    Thanks for the heads up man...I think I got an e-mail like this before...
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  • Profile picture of the author Anup Mahajan
    I got an email from this guy sometime back. The good thing was that I was aware of the scam so I didn't fall into the trap... I find it surprising that the guy is still scamming people

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  • Profile picture of the author ribot
    Almost the same thing for me today May 29th 2011 : I listed yesterday my domain breasts.me on Sedo and I received today a private email from president@your-domain-hosting.com, asking me the price of this domain and if I had other domains for sale.

    While I answered it was not really for sale, I received another message from this Sam Valenti "president of your-domain-hosting.com" writing:

    "I'm thinking about 6,000 - 8,000 USD for your domain. What do you think about this price range?
    Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

    To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:

    domain talk (link)

    Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

    Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

    If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.


    After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

    What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?"


    Be careful with that scam!







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  • Profile picture of the author Winlin
    It's too bad there are those that still find success in running these scams, and they do or they wouldn't continue. I'm a big fan of the who is guard protection, consequently I've not received one of these e-mails in quite some time.

    Just as it was pointed out that the scam is old as dirt, so is the sage advice ; "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" - To continued diligence.
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    • Profile picture of the author marcolav
      Just got one too...

      Notice how they didn't even bother to fix the spelling error where it says

      If you have other names for sale please email us yiur full list with prices for consideration.

      Which you can find in some of the emails previously posted

      The domain has been registered on June 6, and I have already sent a complaint to godaddy (their registrar and also hosting company)


      From president@domain-hosting-service.com

      Hello,

      We are interested in your domain name for sale.

      Please email us your desired price in USD or euros for the domain name in the subject line.

      If you have other names for sale please email us yiur full list with prices for consideration.

      Looking forward to doing business with you.

      Regards,

      David Grantz

      President

      Web Domains & Hosting LLC
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Had some fun with these scammers a while back...

    WARNING: Domain Scam back in circulation
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  • Profile picture of the author HN
    Banned
    forward it to thescambaiter.com and let them handle it. Those guys have too much time on their hands to deal with scammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author wilken
    I've just received the same email for my domain name 2str.com and it is still with the same spelling error - yiur instead of your.
    I've been wondering should I answer with some ridiculously high price or with an inquiry about his name domain-hosting-service dot com containing his favorite appraisal trick but at the end I just hit the spam button.
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    • Profile picture of the author Datingport
      Yes, another one of those I got one of those too posts.....
      I'm getting tired of this every time I update my Sedo listings.

      I'm mounting a counter attack against this scammer since its the second time he tried me. Seems like every time I update Sedo, he shows up. I have a way to fight him back but it's not for everybody.

      I had a fight with Google over my adwords ads and was arguing with them for a few hours sending emails back and forth. Well the same day within hours they cancelled my adsense account for suspicious activity. Said I was sending invalid clicks. Strange that it happened the same time I was having a heated argument over running my ads in adwords and I never clicked one ad. Anyway to make a long story short I no longer have an Adsense account.

      What does it have to do with this scammer you ask?

      The page he sends you to is a fake static html forum page with authentic links to the real forum to make it look legit. Just that one page is fake with hyphenated urls instead of the real url. It's running his Adsense ads on it.

      I just clicked his adsense ads about 200 times. If you have a suspended adsense account then you can do the same. They take that very seriously and will suspend his account too.

      I don't suggest you do that if you have a good adense account since they track IPs and may disable you too.

      But since I no longer have anything to worry about......
      I'm going back to click more. Don't worry about running up his cash, google only counts a few clicks from an IP before they stop counting them as valid clicks. But they keep counting the invalid ones looking for frauduant activivity. I don't know how many sites he has but I think hurting his adsense account will hurt his pockets a lot.

      Just a suggestion.

      I even sent him a copy of this post to ruin his day :p
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  • Profile picture of the author jpete
    Thank you for your information, these scammers will never go away, they will always find a new way... This is why it is important for people to report them as soon as they know about it...
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