I need some advice to choose a niche.

by Heldigvis 54 replies
Hi!
It's my first thread here :-)
I'm not a completely newbee in IM, I have some adsense and amazon sites which bring me some dollars a month.
Now I would like to start a site (with big S, good, content-rich, helpful site) in a niche, which is my passion, and something I know, can do good and can explain to others.
All gurus suggest to choose a niche according to passion and interests, so I want to follow this advice.
Another advice is to choose a niche, where people have problems, pains and actively searching for soluions and relief.
BUT...
The niche I am interested in and going to start is knitting and crochet.
So my question is:
Is it possible to make a living in a knitting niche? After some researching I found out that most sites in knitting and crochet niche earn from selling Amazon books, yarn, or from Adsense. Not so big profits I think. I understand it's not a hot niche and I wouldn't not be able to make millions in it. But what about earning a decent income?
And I know all this stuff like: "Give first, and then you will get", and "Only hard work pays best", and agree with these words.
But I wouldn't like to find out in some month of hard work, that I chose a wrong niche. I'm not only thinking about making money, I really want to share with others the knowledge I have, but I also want to make money out of it.
What do you guys think, should I go for my passion and make a quality site with good info, or choose something what sells better, like weight loss og dating?
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryB
    Hi, there! I'm new, too. Welcome.

    I have had this question myself, so more than anything, I can't wait to read the responses of the "pros." Most of my "niche interests" are not really lucrative, but I think I'd lose steam trying to sustain a weight loss or dating website.

    Have you read/followed Pat Flynn? I love him. He's so transparent. He launched a niche website in the fall as a "duel" with another marketer to see who could get to profit first. Go to his blog, Smart Passive Income, and search for Niche Site Duel. He walks you through his thought process, step by step.

    Hope that helps and looking forward to reading more!
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    • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
      Originally Posted by MaryB View Post

      Most of my "niche interests" are not really lucrative, but I think I'd lose steam trying to sustain a weight loss or dating website.
      Thank you for your reply, Mary!
      Yes, it's not big fun to spend hours of work in the niche you are not interested about. But is it better to work on something you like and see no income out of it? :p


      Originally Posted by MaryB View Post

      Have you read/followed Pat Flynn? I love him. He's so transparent.
      I found Pat Flynn's blog a couple of days ago, bookmarked it and now come back there to read, lots of very good info.

      About crafts blogs - it looks like it's possible to earn something, but not make a living.
      I have a couple of Amazon sites, which sell 50 - 150 dollar goods, not so big money. But books?..

      I think we should choose - passion or money (those who are in crafts niche).
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      • Profile picture of the author walkerrunner23
        I definitely agree we all have to find the balance between our passion and profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    Choosing a niche you highly enjoy will definitely make this experience much easier. You can literally participate in the activity you like doing each day and just record what you do...in either text format, audio format, or video format. This is an easy way to build a targeted audience.

    Before even looking at the numbers, I would assume your niche will be a good one. It's something that a targeted group of people enjoy doing and there will be people who will want to learn this hobby. THere are products on amazon and other sources so there are people paying for this niche's info.

    Let's look at a quick keyword research to see what potential it may have:

    [knitting] 33,100
    knitting patterns] 33,100
    [knitting blogs] 5,400
    [free knit patterns] 1,600
    [knitting stitches] 6,600
    [discount knitting yarn] 260
    [knitting instructions] 4,400
    knitting yarns] 480
    [simple knitting patterns] 390
    [free knitting patterns] 22,200
    [how to knit] 33,100

    Looks pretty decent from a quick look. There is only one way to find out. I'm sure you can make money in this niche.

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    • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      There is only one way to find out.

      Thank you for the keyword research.
      People definitely search for such kind of information, but how many of them are ready to pay? Most search for FREE patterns.
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      • Profile picture of the author petelta
        Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

        Yes, Travis, and it's to try it!
        That's why I ask more experiensed warrios before starting myself.

        Thank you for the keyword research.
        People definitely search for such kind of information, but how many of them are ready to pay? Most search for FREE patterns.
        I just went to Amazon and clicked on the Category Books. Then I searched the keyword "knitting". Here is the first result:

        Vogue Knitting: The Ultimate Knitting Book by Vogue Knitting Magazine Editors (Aug 28, 2002)

        (132 customer reviews)

        That many reviews tells me it has some buyers. There are multiple products in this search that show buyers in the market.

        Teach Yourself VISUALLY Knitting (Teach Yourself VISUALLY Consumer) by Sharon Turner (Feb 8, 2010)

        (110 customer reviews)

        Knitting Without Tears: Basic Techniques and Easy-to-Follow Directions for Garments to Fit All Sizes by Elizabeth Zimmermann (Jul 1, 1971)


        (122 customer reviews)

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        • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
          Originally Posted by petelta View Post

          I just went to Amazon and clicked on the Category Books. Then I searched the keyword "knitting". Here is the first result:

          Travis, you as a seasoned Internet Marketer, what other ways to earn money can you advice?
          I saw on the most of knitting/crochet sites they sell Amazon books, some of them yarn also, have Adsense, and CPA offers, which have no connection to the subject of the site: dating, weight loss, skin care, cooking etc.
          As I understand they don't make much from Adsence, books and yarn, and that's why try to monetize traffic with other women interests. So that nicheis not profitable, it is only used to attract women, and then sell them something else? Am I right?
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          • Profile picture of the author petelta
            Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

            Travis, you as a seasoned Internet Marketer, what other ways to earn money can you advice?
            I saw on the most of knitting/crochet sites they sell Amazon books, some of them yarn also, have Adsense, and CPA offers, which have no connection to the subject of the site: dating, weight loss, skin care, cooking etc.
            As I understand they don't make much from Adsence, books and yarn, and that's why try to monetize traffic with other women interests. So that nicheis not profitable, it is only used to attract women, and then sell them something else? Am I right?
            If I were you, I would write a knitting ebook or create a video series and sell it myself. That's the main reason I suggest choosing a niche you like participating in early...you can easily create a product in these niches. Then start building a list that promotes that ebook.

            I don't do Adsense myself so I can't advise in that field. You could always promote affiliate products like the ebooks as well. Even if it only made you an extra $500 per month, it would be worth it. After a while, this traffic will start to come on autopilot if you work on search engine rankings and delivering high quality content.

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      • Profile picture of the author seotechnician
        Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

        Thank you for the keyword research.
        People definitely search for such kind of information, but how many of them are ready to pay? Most search for FREE patterns.
        I agree Heldivis. This is true.
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  • Profile picture of the author CopyAcolyte
    Like Petelta said, choose a niche that you can get excited promoting.

    And to have an edge going in, look at current niches with successful sellers (those who have been in business for a few business periods) that sell items with a high markup on cost.

    You have to do a little digging to find out the true cost of an item though.

    But once you do this, you can surmise that because the seller is charging a higher price for their product, there aren't a lot of competitors in the market.

    This means you can swoop in, mark up your price a little less than what the average are offering, and sell on the same benefits or sell from a differentiated angle.

    But try not to lowball too low. Instead, differentiate your product with the help of a good copywriter while offering a slightly lower price.

    The key here is a combination appeal to the buyer: Lower price AND a fresh perspective on value.

    This is how you smash into a relatively quiet niche!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Certainly with Amazon products and books, along with their genius at converting and cross-selling, you should do well in this market. What has always worked particularly well for me in selling Amazon products in any niche is to write articles and getting published in relevant ezines, websites, blogs, etc. By showing off your expertise, readers will be drawn to your recommendations for related products and books.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Knitting, i think, is a good market. If you are good at it, you can write an ebook yourself and then sell it afterwards.
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    • Profile picture of the author walkerrunner23
      Hello everyone,

      I have always been told and I completely agree you should only choose from three main categories of niches

      1. Wealth- anything money related such as debt relief, investing, credit card debt, personal finance, online business, online marketing, online careers

      2. Health- how to lose weight, headaches, joint pain, workout plans, diets, and any product promoting health

      3. Personal Development- dating advice, social networking, wedding advice/planning, marriage help, and things of that nature.

      I truly believe and have been told that over 90% of the niches that make online will fall into one of these three categories.

      I hope this helps,

      Jake
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      • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
        Originally Posted by walkerrunner23 View Post

        Hello everyone,

        I have always been told and I completely agree you should only choose from three main categories of niches

        1. Wealth- anything money related such as debt relief, investing, credit card debt, personal finance, online business, online marketing, online careers

        2. Health- how to lose weight, headaches, joint pain, workout plans, diets, and any product promoting health

        3. Personal Development- dating advice, social networking, wedding advice/planning, marriage help, and things of that nature.

        I truly believe and have been told that over 90% of the niches that make online will fall into one of these three categories.

        I hope this helps,

        Jake
        Thank you, Jake.
        I think you are right and most money are being made in these 3 niches, (or may be even "markets"?)
        I have some experience with weight loss, but it's not what I can write tons of interesting articles about. I also have some experience with online dating (I met my husband on a dating site ).
        But as you all probably noticed from my posts, English is not my first language. I'm just not able to create high quality articles myself. And I can't afford outsoursing.
        That's why I thought to start with something where I can provide good info, and hope my visitors will forgive me my not perfect English
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve L
        Originally Posted by walkerrunner23 View Post

        Hello everyone,

        I have always been told and I completely agree you should only choose from three main categories of niches

        1. Wealth- anything money related such as debt relief, investing, credit card debt, personal finance, online business, online marketing, online careers

        2. Health- how to lose weight, headaches, joint pain, workout plans, diets, and any product promoting health

        3. Personal Development- dating advice, social networking, wedding advice/planning, marriage help, and things of that nature.

        I truly believe and have been told that over 90% of the niches that make online will fall into one of these three categories.

        I hope this helps,

        Jake
        agreed. it doesn't seem to me that the knitting/crochet market could be considered "desperate". it sounds bad, but you want to sell to desperate people. the niche's jake mentioned are filled with desperate buyers.

        read my blog post about selecting a niche here.
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        • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
          I personally think you can make a good income with the knitting niche. Their's shows on TV in this niche, plenty of magazines, etc...
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          • Profile picture of the author Steve L
            Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

            I personally think you can make a good income with the knitting niche. Their's shows on TV in this niche, plenty of magazines, etc...
            not saying it's impossible, just saying it's not as easy to get these people to part with their money like it is in "desperate" markets.
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            • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
              There's really only two main types of niches out there. Desperation niches and hobby niches. Desperation niches are those where people are trying to find a problem to relieve a pain that they have. This could be hair loss prevention, weight loss, back pain...you name it. Hobby niches are those with an irrationally passionate audience with 'dumb money' to spend. I would say that the knitting is not that sort of audience? Though it is definitely still a viable niche because there are info products out there on the topic, and there are also ads on it. Have a look at the CPC numbers for knitting keywords and see if they have profit potential. Ultimately, the right niche should ideally be the intersection sweet spot of profit, skill and passion.
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            • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
              Originally Posted by Steve Longoria View Post

              not saying it's impossible, just saying it's not as easy to get these people to part with their money like it is in "desperate" markets.
              No, you are right.

              But there's something to be said about just creating a sh*$load of content on something you love. Talk about simplifying.

              That's it...I'm going to start that hand puppet site once and for all!!
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            • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
              Originally Posted by Steve Longoria View Post

              not saying it's impossible, just saying it's not as easy to get these people to part with their money like it is in "desperate" markets.
              Exactly. Not impossible, but very difficult.
              Will I be able? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author onSubie
        Originally Posted by walkerrunner23 View Post

        Hello everyone,

        I have always been told and I completely agree you should only choose from three main categories of niches

        1. Wealth- anything money related such as debt relief, investing, credit card debt, personal finance, online business, online marketing, online careers

        2. Health- how to lose weight, headaches, joint pain, workout plans, diets, and any product promoting health

        3. Personal Development- dating advice, social networking, wedding advice/planning, marriage help, and things of that nature.

        I truly believe and have been told that over 90% of the niches that make online will fall into one of these three categories.

        I hope this helps,

        Jake
        Hi

        There are a lot of sites that make a lot of money outside those categories.

        For example, physical product sites like Amazon Affiliates.

        Computer Gaming, PS2 and sports like Golf fall outside those categories.

        The limitations you refer to usually apply to ebooks and information products and for people who are looking for a niche they can create multiple products for and continue to market to. And which are large enough to support many small and micro-niches. They are also often good ones to start with as a beginner before you go off the beaten path for other valuable nuggets.

        That is different than an authority niche site like the OP described.

        Craft Hobbies have some pretty die-hard adherents who spend money repeatedly on new patterns, tools, supplies and information.

        Look at other authority sites in that niche. there are some big knitting and crochet member sites. Look for forums and see what people are looking for.

        That niche is definitely big enough to make good money from a large authority site.

        Mahlon
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        • Profile picture of the author akmaher
          I agree. The key is passion. Whatever you are passionate about, you will spend money and be more likely to be long term. You might not need as many if your base is solid and dedicated. Heldivis, go for it!
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Originally Posted by walkerrunner23 View Post

            Hello everyone,

            I have always been told and I completely agree you should only choose from three main categories of niches

            1. Wealth- anything money related such as debt relief, investing, credit card debt, personal finance, online business, online marketing, online careers

            2. Health- how to lose weight, headaches, joint pain, workout plans, diets, and any product promoting health

            3. Personal Development- dating advice, social networking, wedding advice/planning, marriage help, and things of that nature.

            I truly believe and have been told that over 90% of the niches that make online will fall into one of these three categories.

            I hope this helps,

            Jake
            I am under the impression that learning to knit or crochet is part of personal development, and because it is actually a calming and repetitive activity it could be deemed good for your health.

            Not to mention, some designers who become the most skilled at their craft might even come into wealth.

            To the OP, I will suggest even another income opportunity stream for you within this niche. There are vintage patterns that fall into "public domain." These patterns can actually be sold and resold over and over without having to create a course or a product.

            This is a niche I have briefly explored in the past and I can say those who appear to be most successful are the ones who are branding and using their real names and identifying with the knitters and crocheters.

            If this were to be my primary niche and source of income, going in full blast with a true identity would be my personal strategy.

            Good luck to you.
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            • Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

              Most search for FREE patterns.
              Take advantage of those freebie seekers by having them sign up for your mailing list to receive a FREE pattern every week. Keep them simple, though, so you can charge for the more elaborate ones.

              I definitely agree with the videos, too. A lot of of people learn better when they can actually see something being done, as opposed to just reading about it. Again, just the basics. Charge for the intermediate and advanced ones.

              There are even knitting podcasts!

              How about selling knitting cruises? These guys have an affiliate program, and I would think the commission per sale would very hefty (also have a chance to win a free cruise yourself):

              Knitting Cruises :: Knitting Cruise retreats :: Knitting Trips :: Knitting Vacations

              Here's a yarn supply store with an affiliate program;

              String of Purls Yarn & Knitting Shop :|: Omaha's Nebraska

              And, of course, there are lots of items on Amazon or Clickbank.

              It's a bit more work to moderate, but allow your visitors to post their own articles and pictures to share with others. The feeling of being a part of a community keeps people coming back. This also keeps you from constantly having to come up with new ideas, because new content is being created for you.

              Buddypress would be an excellent option for creating an online knitting community.

              You can also sell things you have made yourself, or offer to post other's work on your site for a percentage of the sale.

              I think knitting is a winning niche.
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              • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
                Originally Posted by Bradley J Anderson View Post

                Take advantage of those freebie seekers by having them sign up for your mailing list to receive a FREE pattern every week. Keep them simple, though, so you can charge for the more elaborate ones.

                I definitely agree with the videos, too. A lot of of people learn better when they can actually see something being done, as opposed to just reading about it. Again, just the basics. Charge for the intermediate and advanced ones.

                There are even knitting podcasts!

                How about selling knitting cruises? These guys have an affiliate program, and I would think the commission per sale would very hefty (also have a chance to win a free cruise yourself):

                Knitting Cruises :: Knitting Cruise retreats :: Knitting Trips :: Knitting Vacations

                Here's a yarn supply store with an affiliate program;

                String of Purls Yarn & Knitting Shop :|: Omaha's Nebraska

                And, of course, there are lots of items on Amazon or Clickbank.

                It's a bit more work to moderate, but allow your visitors to post their own articles and pictures to share with others. The feeling of being a part of a community keeps people coming back. This also keeps you from constantly having to come up with new ideas, because new content is being created for you.

                Buddypress would be an excellent option for creating an online knitting community.

                You can also sell things you have made yourself, or offer to post other's work on your site for a percentage of the sale.

                I think knitting is a winning niche.
                Great information, Bradley, thank you so much for sharing!

                How did you find those knitting cruises? I couldn't imagine something like that exists
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                • Profile picture of the author edrogers
                  No big profits necessarily from this niche just from Amazon and adsense, but since there are obviously others making a little money from this it means there are others that are promoting/marketing this niche. Best opportunity might be to create your own product, then reach out to these sites and try to get them to promote it for you as affiliates.

                  Also, I too am semi new but not really, making money on a couple of sites but no huge cash cows just yet.


                  Best wishes.
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                • Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

                  How did you find those knitting cruises? I couldn't imagine something like that exists
                  Actually, my grandmother went on one, and it blew me away to learn about it, too. I honestly didn't know they had an affiliate program, though, I just happened to notice that when I was checking the url to make sure it was still valid. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    It all depends on your mindset. If you are just looking to make blogs for money you should jump in to good niches where people happy to spend money such as weight lose, make money, dating. It may sound scary but you know those niche are very profitable, all you have to do is ..drill down keywords and find a good profitable keyword with good monthly search<<Less Competition <<. This way you know are going to make money with out hoping to make money.

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'm nowhere near an SEO specialist but did work with one for awhile and looking at some of the number he'd be really excited about this. Why? lots of searches, low cost per click (CCP) for Adwords, and...

    Just the right number of Adwords ads for several hot keywords, indicating there is a market for stuff in this niche, but not a super crowed market. You may have hit the jackpot. And I love your approach, just sharing information. Didn't Martha Stewart start out something like this? Maybe you can build an authority site. Best wishes!
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

    Hi!
    So my question is:
    Is it possible to make a living in a knitting niche? After some researching I found out that most sites in knitting and crochet niche earn from selling Amazon books, yarn, or from Adsense. Not so big profits I think. I understand it's not a hot niche and I wouldn't not be able to make millions in it. But what about earning a decent income?
    And I know all this stuff like: "Give first, and then you will get", and "Only hard work pays best", and agree with these words.
    But I wouldn't like to find out in some month of hard work, that I chose a wrong niche. I'm not only thinking about making money, I really want to share with others the knowledge I have, but I also want to make money out of it.
    What do you guys think, should I go for my passion and make a quality site with good info, or choose something what sells better, like weight loss og dating?
    Is it possible to make a living in a knitting niche? Yes, it is very possible. It's small, in terms of amount of people interested in it (compared to other pastimes).

    Should I go for my passion and make a quality site with good info? Yes, I think you should focus on where your passion and knowledge lies. It is a good niche and has a good, core group of worldwide knitters. Ask yourself, "what is lacking with other knitting sites", "Can I do better than my competition?", "What is a niche that I could fill in the world of knitting?". If you can positively answer these questions, then you know your niche.

    Weightloss is very heavily saturated and would be hard to break into. Plus you would be competing against established IM'ers. Knitting competition from IM'ers? Not much, if any.

    Create your site. Hire/ask/beg the best contributors that you have in your list of contacts, and then see if they would be interested in writing, creating videos, or taking over part of the responsibilities. Establish a release date. Build your site up with content. Release it (when ready) with a big marketing blitz grand opening.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
      Originally Posted by tritrain View Post

      Ask yourself, "what is lacking with other knitting sites", "Can I do better than my competition?", "What is a niche that I could fill in the world of knitting?". If you can positively answer these questions, then you know your niche.
      Yes, I know what is lacking with many other knitting sites.

      Some of them often have patterns reprinted from knitting magazines, or other sites, or just PLR about knitting and they are not newbee friendly. Is it easy for a beginner to understand something like:

      Next Row (RS): Ch 2, turn, hdc in each hdc to last 2 (3, 3, 4, 5) hdc; leave last 2 (3, 3, 4, 5) sts unworked – 31 (34, 39, 42, 46) hdc.
      Dec Row: Ch 2, turn, hdc2tog, hdc in each hdc to end – 30 (33, 38, 41, 45) sts.
      Sizes M, L, 1X and 2X only
      Next Row (RS): Ch 2, turn, hdc in each hdc to last 2 hdc, hdc2tog – (32, 37, 40, 44) sts.
      Next Row: Ch 2, turn, hdc3tog, hdc in each hdc to end – (30, 35, 38, 42) sts.

      It's ok for advanced knitters, but what about those, who start knitting and need extra explanation of all, even the most simple things?
      I saw some knitting and crochet patterns, which tell only what item it is (for example, Sweater) and description how to knit it. No size, no picture, no explanation how the sweter will look like.

      I think the best way to teach people how to knit/crochet (and it is also true for other crafts niches) is making videos and showing the process, or the most important parts of it, step-by-step.

      But making all these step-by-step videos and easy-to-understand descriptions is a very time consuming process. Probably that's why many of the sites I mentioned above only contain articles, which doesn't help much to beginners.


      I know what many knitting sites lack, I know how to make my site better, than many others, and I know which niche in knitting market I could start with.

      What makes me concerned, is if I'm making the right choise of the niche and if it is profitable enough to make living out of it.

      I read several stories here at WF how people put months of hard work in their projects, and then understand they chose a wrong niche.

      I'm very grateful to all Warrios who replies to my thread. I've got a lot of good ideas to think about
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      • Profile picture of the author Fenshon
        Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

        I know what many knitting sites lack, I know how to make my site better, than many others, and I know which niche in knitting market I could start with.
        then go ahead. You will set yourself apart. Moreso, your passion will show through and even make you have loyal followers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Choose a perfect niche. Of course a niche that is closest to your heart, your passion. I agree with that "knitting" and "crochet" is not really popular niches. But with the proper management, promotion and selling, you will definitely get massive traffic and money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
    My first question to you would be - if knitting is your hobby how much money do you spend on it each month? I am a firm believer in creating websites based on a hobby as it allows you to get involved in the online community and because you are learning and sharing experiences it doesn't feel like work. The key is to find a hobby niche where people spend $$, and you should have a good idea of that based on the experience of you and any friends who love knitting.

    I'd give it a shot and just see what happens
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I considered the 'cross stitch' niche at one stage but didn't think I could monetize it all that well. However, I know cross stitch kits can get up there in price but I haven't looked to see if they are sold on Amazon.

    Have you considered expanding it to include cross stitch and sewing? If you include the sewing niche then you can promote sewing machines, overlockers and sewing cabinets on Amazon.

    As for knitting and crochet - I would think Adsense, although I'm not sure what the average CPC is. Or create your own pattern books. I know a couple of years ago I sold all my pattern books on Ebay and was surprised at the number of people bidding on them - it was mostly baby patterns. So there could be a market for ebook knitting patters - particularly baby patterns.
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  • Hey Warrior,

    I think you would rock in the knitting and crochet niche, especially because you LOVE it so much. And lots of people are into that, one of them is the love of my life. And go to this site as it may be able to help you ALOT : Ravelry.com .
    I know you will do well. Follow your heart and what makes you feel good.

    Peace and Love,
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  • Profile picture of the author gforex
    Hi,
    All i can advice you is to start a website. Its not hard. Choose Word Press and build links in to your website. You will be amazed the many visitors you will have coming to buy you product.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    YOu know your niche already, you're just asking for confirmation.

    Since you've known this niche before, check these out to make sure you can tap into this niche to make money or not:
    - enough search volume?
    - any products to promote?
    - do the visitors looking for INFORMATION or buying things ?

    For the last question, you can make sure with the keywords you're going to target (if you're checking it with keyword tool like google keyword tool).

    Also, if you're using SEO, check the competitors.


    I think the last question is the most important factor: BUYING or just LOOKING INFORMATIONS?
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    • Profile picture of the author SuResearcher
      There are so many things you can do in a hobby niche like knitting.

      - Create your own "how to knit" and "knitting patterns" products using public domain material
      - Create your own "how to knit" and "knitting patterns" products using a knitting expert for content
      - Promote Amazon books
      - Promote materials needed for knitting (physical product promotion)
      - Show someone how to start a knitting circle (I read an article recently that said that these are popular)
      - Show someone how they can make some extra money with their knitting skills, by selling their products online and offline
      - Create a free membership and offer them an upgrade to a paid membership. In the free membership give them basic info and the paid is access to more advanced techniques.

      These are few things off the top of my head. As you delve deeper, I am sure you'll find a lot more things. Just doing the above will keep you busy for a while.
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      • Profile picture of the author 2stroke
        Originally Posted by SuResearcher View Post

        There are so many things you can do in a hobby niche like knitting.

        - Create your own "how to knit" and "knitting patterns" products using public domain material
        - Create your own "how to knit" and "knitting patterns" products using a knitting expert for content
        - Promote Amazon books
        - Promote materials needed for knitting (physical product promotion)
        - Show someone how to start a knitting circle (I read an article recently that said that these are popular)
        - Show someone how they can make some extra money with their knitting skills, by selling their products online and offline
        - Create a free membership and offer them an upgrade to a paid membership. In the free membership give them basic info and the paid is access to more advanced techniques.

        These are few things off the top of my head. As you delve deeper, I am sure you'll find a lot more things. Just doing the above will keep you busy for a while.
        Well this is my first post as a new member of this forum. There are a lot of great answers to your OP but I especially liked this one. It's just packed with good info.

        I say go for it and make a site. If you already have hosting you can add a domain name for $12 or less. If you don't have hosting you can get a year package with a domain for around $40, so...it's not like your taking a big risk really. Good luck, and put a link to your new site in your signature so we can all check it out.
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        • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
          Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post

          Well this is my first post as a new member of this forum. There are a lot of great answers to your OP but I especially liked this one. It's just packed with good info.

          I say go for it and make a site. If you already have hosting you can add a domain name for $12 or less. If you don't have hosting you can get a year package with a domain for around $40, so...it's not like your taking a big risk really. Good luck, and put a link to your new site in your signature so we can all check it out.

          Hello Jim!
          Welcome to WarriorForum!
          I appreciate it very much that you made your first post here
          I have a hosting account, I own several Amazon sites, so I know it's no risk to start a site. I have some experience
          I just was not sure if people spend money there.
          But it looks like they do. And there are some ways to make money in a knitting niche.
          I even bought a domain name already :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post


      Since you've known this niche before, check these out to make sure you can tap into this niche to make money or not:
      - enough search volume?
      yes

      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      - any products to promote?
      yes, there are some

      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      - do the visitors looking for INFORMATION or buying things ?
      I think they are most searching for information, free information :confused:

      That's why I haven't started it yet and continue reading and thinking...
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  • The fact is, Heldivis, there are no guarantees in internet marketing. Sometimes you just have to put your fears aside and jump right in. Obviously the mass consensus, however, is that this could very well work, and given the experience of a lot of the members here, I think that means you probably have an above-average shot of turning it into a successful site. Good luck to you.
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  • There is money in everything, as long as you are original, don't be like everybody else, that is just boring. What would people in this niche want to learn, especially if they were newbies? Maybe they don't know how to knit, or maybe they do, but they don't know how to do it like a pro, I mean off the top of my head, I could come up with many different products, and services, you could offer, to people who are interested. Whether or not this niche will make you any money? Did you do a Google keywords tool to see what the monthly search volume is? That gives you a good indication of how many people, are searching, for what you are preparing to offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author musicaltouch
    I am in the crochet niche.

    I can attest that you will make a little money selling products from amazon and adsense.
    My sites sells about $500 in Amazon per month and I make anywhere between 10-20 A day in adsense with a CTR around 5%.

    I optimized the site into two areas.

    One area around high paying clicks and other area of the site around products that are combined with HOW to articles.

    This site gets about 10,000 - 12,000 unique hits per month and rising!

    I have tried clickbank products and that really decreases SALES...

    Just give away good content and do it consistently.

    There is a ton of traffic in this niche...
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    • Profile picture of the author Heldigvis
      Originally Posted by musicaltouch View Post

      I am in the crochet niche.

      I can attest that you will make a little money selling products from amazon and adsense.
      My sites sells about $500 in Amazon per month and I make anywhere between 10-20 A day in adsense with a CTR around 5%.

      I optimized the site into two areas.

      One area around high paying clicks and other area of the site around products that are combined with HOW to articles.

      This site gets about 10,000 - 12,000 unique hits per month and rising!

      I have tried clickbank products and that really decreases SALES...

      Just give away good content and do it consistently.

      There is a ton of traffic in this niche...
      WOW! That is really exciting to hear from somebody who is actually involved in this niche and has practical knowledge (if I can say so in English )

      Can I PM you and ask a couple of questions, please?
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      • Profile picture of the author musicaltouch
        Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

        WOW! That is really exciting to hear from somebody who is actually involved in this niche and has practical knowledge (if I can say so in English )

        Can I PM you and ask a couple of questions, please?
        No problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Raymond
    Originally Posted by Heldivis View Post

    Hi!
    It's my first thread here :-)
    I'm not a completely newbee in IM, I have some adsense and amazon sites which bring me some dollars a month.
    Now I would like to start a site (with big S, good, content-rich, helpful site) in a niche, which is my passion, and something I know, can do good and can explain to others.
    All gurus suggest to choose a niche according to passion and interests, so I want to follow this advice.
    Another advice is to choose a niche, where people have problems, pains and actively searching for soluions and relief.
    BUT...
    The niche I am interested in and going to start is knitting and crochet.
    So my question is:
    Is it possible to make a living in a knitting niche? After some researching I found out that most sites in knitting and crochet niche earn from selling Amazon books, yarn, or from Adsense. Not so big profits I think. I understand it's not a hot niche and I wouldn't not be able to make millions in it. But what about earning a decent income?
    And I know all this stuff like: "Give first, and then you will get", and "Only hard work pays best", and agree with these words.
    But I wouldn't like to find out in some month of hard work, that I chose a wrong niche. I'm not only thinking about making money, I really want to share with others the knowledge I have, but I also want to make money out of it.
    What do you guys think, should I go for my passion and make a quality site with good info, or choose something what sells better, like weight loss og dating?
    Let me begin by saying that I know nothing about knitting. I do however, know a great deal about math and so I would suggest the following equation for you:

    local exact search volume x 50% (assuming you can rank #1) x 1% (conversion ratio) x price of the product x commission percentage = possible monthly profit.

    For me, if that equation doesn't equal at least $100 I don't build a site.

    If you want more details on this, click the Niche Site Mastery link in my sig. It'll take you to a whole bunch of free content that will help you on this.

    I also have a WSO running right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author seotechnician
    Weight loss and dating appeal to a larger target market and therefore allow you to sell to more people.
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