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Well...what can I say WF it's been a bad experience for me in the IM department..article marketing, adsense, blogging, ppc, cpa, blabla the whole 9 yards!! But if there's anything I picked up from IM is that I can convince anyone that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to making money.... what do I mean? Someone asked me how they should make money..and I literally broke down step by step on how they should begin, what to buy...investing..articles EVERYTHING. A week later he sent me a screenshot of his paypal and he earned 300$ in ONE week all from my advice. so I asked my self..how is it possible I helped someone making money online when I can't earn a penny :confused: it's so funny cause I told them what to do yet he's bank is bigger than mine!

So now I'm left a decision to create a SUPER UBERLY AWESOME MONEY MAKING BLUEPRINT 3.0++ but I've earned 0.00 and then some..is that considered scamming?
#irony
  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    You helped him, so ask him to help you. (Assuming he didn't send
    you a fake screen shot - lol.)

    Explain the situation and just ask him what he did.


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  • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
    I told him everything to do and he did so..the only thing he did on his own was find a niche, buy a domain/hosting..buy some PLR's etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by FloridaLIFE View Post

      I told him everything to do and he did so..the only thing he did on his own was find a niche, buy a domain/hosting..buy some PLR's etc..

      Picking a good niche is probably more than half the battle.

      Did you tell him how to pick a niche? There are plenty of tutorials
      on choosing a good/profitable niche.


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    • Profile picture of the author eric w
      Start selling what you told him..in other words, teach people how to make money and charge for it.

      Use him as a testimonial.
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      • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
        Originally Posted by eric w View Post

        Start selling what you told him..in other words, teach people how to make money and charge for it.

        Use him as a testimonial.
        Yeah I'm going to start doing that...I can't be arsed to hassle with all the SEO BS..but I don't think no-one would buy a 97$ ebook without having proof of said revenue..
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    • Profile picture of the author bigbabol
      What skills, interests, or your hobby? find a niche. build your brand. be a focus, focus, and focus. it takes a long time. not a guarantee. But be sure, you will be successful.

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  • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
    Yes I taught him how to pick a niche.

    Instead of messing around with all this SEO and what-not I'm just going to pump out products.
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    • Profile picture of the author scottlin
      Originally Posted by FloridaLIFE View Post

      Yes I taught him how to pick a niche.

      Instead of messing around with all this SEO and what-not I'm just going to pump out products.

      and that's half the WSO's right there....hey you wont be doing any less than half the people on here who pretend to be gurus
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  • Profile picture of the author KabirC
    Just do exactly what you told that person, or use him as proof of success and sell your services.
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    • Profile picture of the author conceptsti
      It's all about the niche...
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      • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
        Thank you for posting this!

        Warriors are often incredibly harsh in their judgments of people in the IM niche. The general consensus around here is that if you haven't made any money online yourself and you try to sell MMO info or services, you're a scammer. Or at least a no-credibility sleazebag.

        As your experience shows, this is NOT the case.

        You CAN, indeed, legitimately sell MMO info or services even if you've never made money online yourself if 1) you've tutored others to do it, and they've gotten results (as your experience shows), or 2) you've done research and compiled information which you're using to sell as an information product or your services. This is called reporting. Journalists do this all the time: they simply compile information and report it to the public.

        As long as 1) you're not claiming that you've made money when you haven't or 2) that you've made more than you really have, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.

        Yes, there are a lot of scams in the make-money-from home niche (online or otherwise), so people are naturally suspicious. But people are SO distrustful that it makes it especially difficult for legitimate marketers to market their products are services.

        I love the WF. The information, resources and help here are just incredible. But I've also seen Warriors be incredibly harsh in their judgments too -- unjustly so.

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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    this indicates a lack of planning and strategy on your part.

    sure, we all know how to make money, but how many of us actually practice what we preach? I offer website feedback on Fiverr in the form of a 10-point review. I've done hundreds of these, but never have I stepped back and taken a look at my own sites. I know there are improvements to be made, and if I made a 10-point review of my own sites I might be able to action them.

    Maybe it's a similar thing for you?

    P.s. Don't put out a "money making blueprint" - at least try to make money yourself first. Don't join the crowd of leeches selling false dreams!
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    • How many sites have you setup / niches? Not all sites are winner. He may have got lucky, and you have been unlucky.

      Try this : Why not pick 5 new niches, and build 5 different sites for them. Work on SEOing them, and give it 6 months of solid work. I bet you will start to see results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    You know what they say - Those who can't do - teach.

    Sounds perfect for you
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    nothing to see here.

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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      You know what they say - Those who can't do - teach.
      I was just about to say so myself... There is a lesson do be learn here somewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      You know what they say - Those who can't do - teach.

      Sounds perfect for you
      That's a good one.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joey89
        Originally Posted by Kal Sallam View Post

        That's a good one.


        I would like to expand on that quote,


        Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach......teach gym.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    I first want to mention that you should put the dollar sign in front of the number, like this: $97 not like this: 97$. I'm not tying to be a smartass, I would want someone to tell me about something like that if I were doing it wrong.

    Why don't you just do what your friend did a few times and get some more proof of your system, then launch your own product?

    Like a lot of people, I think you just needed to see some proof that it really works before you believe in it enough to take action.

    For years athletes tried to break the 4-minute mile and could never do it... that was, until Roger Banister did it in 1954, then several others did it right afterword. Why? Because they knew it could be done.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dash Evra
    Originally Posted by FloridaLIFE View Post


    So now I'm left a decision to create a SUPER UBERLY AWESOME MONEY MAKING BLUEPRINT 3.0++ but I've earned 0.00 and then some..is that considered scamming?
    I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you're honest in your sale page instead of BS the audience that you made $$$ a day with w/e technique you're teaching.
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    • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
      Originally Posted by Dash Evra View Post

      I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you're honest in your sale page instead of BS the audience that you made $$$ a day with w/e technique you're teaching.
      ok..i admit i was over exaggerating
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        i admit i was over exaggerating
        I definitely think that is the case in this thread....

        You could go through this forum and find enough real info to put together a "blueprint of how to do IM profitably" - and someone who DID what was suggested could made bank doing it.

        There is a fine line between teaching and B.S. - and that line is often blurred in IM.

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  • Profile picture of the author jrodriguez315
    If you showed him how to do it and he did it, then you can too. Do what you told him to do until you have the same results that he got or better. Once you do that, you will really be in a better position to share that knowledge with others in a WSO. Otherwise, all you can say is, if you do this, it MIGHT work . . .

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
    I've decided to make a product and launch it mauahaah
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  • Profile picture of the author JaisonG
    Loll well its not totally ironic, the reason is so simple: He Took Action! I am not saying that you didn't or that he did more than you, all I am saying is that he did what you told him to and he made bank, he followed the right steps and therefore made money!
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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    LOL, that's funny.
    I think you should at least have made some real money online using your techniques. Just putting something out without having done it could be considered scammy. You seem to be stuck in the theory zone - sort of like the brilliant teacher who never has actually done or tested out what he's actually teaching - but the theory checks out and has seen results from his students, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    That is the problem.

    You have all the knowledge you need. Just stop getting more knowledge for now and apply it!

    That is how you will make money!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLCarroll
    People kill me when they insist that someone cannot teach someone else how to do something that they, the teacher, have never done.

    That's bullcrap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joey89
    That's funny, I am usually good at helping other people better than helping myself too.

    So you have a problem because you want to release a product about how to help people make money but you feel bad about not being able to make it yourself.

    Well I say go for it, if you can help someone make money, like that guy, I'd say you are pretty qualified to make an info product.

    You can even ask for a testimonial and you got a testimonial for your sales page.

    Nice post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greyhounds
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    Have you thought about coaching? Maybe that might be the right avenue for you?

    Why is it that you keep failing? Pinpoint your problem and fix it.
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    • Profile picture of the author mounds
      I've had similar experiences in the realm of personal finance. Over the course of a couple years, I consumed a tremendous amount of PF material. As a result, I can list all sorts of strategies, make plans on the fly and sound like I really know what I'm talking about. When I get around to organizing my own finances, I cut corners, give myself too much credit, and inevitably blow it.

      I find that when other people seem to be able to do something and I can't, the answer is often psychological. I firmly believe that a major barrier between people and their success resides in their minds. What's stopping you from following your own recipe?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Here is what happened he believed/practiced what you thought him MORE than you did...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I would suggest that you follow all the steps that you showed your friend. I don't know how hard you have tried, but perhaps he put more effort into and took action and you haven't.

    Or you can find a couple more people and give them the same instructions - perhaps create your ebook or blueprint and have some people try it out. Then you don't have to make any claims about how much money you have made following the system, instead you can claim how much money your customers have made following your system.

    Remember though, that creating a blueprint is also a lot of work that you must be willing to put the effort into.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author DeborahDera
    There must be a difference between what you told him and what he actually did. Ask if you can get together or interview him so that you can try to figure out the differences. You don't even have to tell him it is because YOU can't repeat the process (which seem silly since you gave it to him). Maybe he found the right niche; did something different with keyword research; or found a more efficient method of building backlinks. Try to pick his brain!

    Originally Posted by FloridaLIFE View Post

    Well...what can I say WF it's been a bad experience for me in the IM department..article marketing, adsense, blogging, ppc, cpa, blabla the whole 9 yards!! But if there's anything I picked up from IM is that I can convince anyone that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to making money.... what do I mean? Someone asked me how they should make money..and I literally broke down step by step on how they should begin, what to buy...investing..articles EVERYTHING. A week later he sent me a screenshot of his paypal and he earned 300$ in ONE week all from my advice. so I asked my self..how is it possible I helped someone making money online when I can't earn a penny :confused: it's so funny cause I told them what to do yet he's bank is bigger than mine!

    So now I'm left a decision to create a SUPER UBERLY AWESOME MONEY MAKING BLUEPRINT 3.0++ but I've earned 0.00 and then some..is that considered scamming?
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  • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
    I believe he successfully picked the right niche and the right keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author FloridaLIFE
    Since I can program I'll be creating my own software product and releasing it...get some affiliates to promote for me.
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