Is The Internet Saturated with Websites?

by Khoa
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I've found many people have this belief that there are so many websites around selling so many things that there's no chance left to make money online.

Is it true? Is the Internet saturated with websites? Is there no money left to be made? :confused:

Yes, it is true that there are millions of websites on the Net and competition is getting tougher. But if we think about our daily life, there are even more traditional businesses selling everything under the sun. There are establishments selling things like food, clothes, toys, furniture... everywhere around us.

I believe we can still make profits in online business if you find a right strategy in a niche market and provide a unique product/service to people.

What's your opinion? Do you think "more people" will lead to more challenges or bring more opportunities?
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    Originally Posted by Khoa View Post

    if you find a right strategy in a niche market and provide a unique product/service to people.
    A lot of people can't do this, and that's the problem--not saturation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Henry White
      Originally Posted by kstark View Post

      A lot of people can't do this, and that's the problem--not saturation.
      I agree with you 100%!

      Much like cable with 400 channels - and only two or three per hundred that DON'T suck, very few websites are worth a second visit. Neither is likely to change until people demand it by "voting" with their clicks.

      Generally speaking, it's essentially Europe and the English-speaking world that are closest to saturation, with most of the other regions showing explosive growth: just under 2.1 billion online out of a total population of 6.9 billion - or barely 30 percent. That a LOT of untapped potential!
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      • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
        Originally Posted by hwhite View Post

        Generally speaking, it's essentially Europe and the English-speaking world that are closest to saturation, with most of the other regions showing explosive growth: just under 2.1 billion online out of a total population of 6.9 billion - or barely 30 percent. That a LOT of untapped potential!
        ...and growing fast!

        BTW: the 2.1 billion is NOT how many marketers there are, but how many people, in all, are online. Add to that about 5 billion who access the web in some way through mobile devices.

        There will never be more websites than there are customers, and, as said before, most of those are, at best, a half-arsed effort.

        Therefore the potential is almost infinite, and your only competition are those few marketers who actually "get it right". If one of those is you, you'll make money!

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  • Profile picture of the author Dash Evra
    From my experiences, I don't see any saturation

    I just started a website in the weight loss niche on May 16th 2011 and in the past 7 days, it averaged 300 unique visitors. That's an awesome growth rate for a new site in a niche that is said to be one of the most competitive.

    If you do keyword research on the weight loss niche, you'll notice that all the high traffic keywords have high competitions and would take quite a while to rank for. So, how did I do it? Well, the thing is, there are more than one way to enter a market. It seems like many people here overlook this simple fact and focus on mainly SEO.

    I did blog commenting, guest blogging and video marketing. All of these marketing strategies are great way to get free targeted visitors. Not many people are doing them, hence, the weight loss niche is not competitive at all in those routes.

    There will always be new technologies, new way to reach your target audience. So, I don't see any niche getting saturated any time soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    of course you can have saturation. It's like a market where everyone has stalls AND IS TRYING TO SELL.. You need more customers than sellers. Where is that point? But yes I do think it might be saturated. It's definitely 10X harder than is was pre 2005
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
    You can't make money from selling on your website. You use the website as one of your tools. If you want to make money online you need to build a following and sell them.

    To answer your question, the internet will never be saturated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dash Evra
      Originally Posted by SiteSmarty View Post

      You can't make money from selling on your website.
      I beg to differ. I make a generous profit selling advertising spaces on my sites. And I am sure plenty of people here sell their own product and servicye straight on their sites.

      Example: Warrior Forum - It sells war room membership straight on the site everyday.
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      • Profile picture of the author FamilyAffairs
        Yes it’s true that there are a lot of niches out there nowadays that seems as if they are saturated to the point of no more room for the new guy. The fact is no matter how saturated a niche may seem there are still opportunities to be had, when done right that is. Granted some may be smaller than others, but there’s still some opportunity for us all.

        It’s not always about finding that one new unique product, service or promotion. It’s more about improving upon that which is already there. Our job as marketers is to inspire and instruct people as to what they really need in order to solve their problems. Let’s face it people are equally looking for the personal connection as well as what’s taught/offered.

        The biggest mistake that I’ve seen a lot of marketers do including myself is in that thinking of others as competitors. The simple fact is this - when we stop thinking in terms of competition then start thinking of these so called competitors as future business partners then a whole new marketing experience opens up to us.

        We as marketers should be thinking more in the terms of how can I improve what’s already there instead of how can I get my piece of this pie. Once your potential business partners start seeing that you bring in a newer, fresher and updated solution that complements what they already have out there.

        Well then you will now have those so called competitors asking you if the can promote your stuff to their lists and vice versa (for a percentage of course). One fact is that our own thinking holds us back more than anything else in this world – sometimes just changing our thinking ways is the key to success.

        Nope not saturated just more opportunities for success...
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert M Gouge
    You know who got rich during the gold rush? The guys selling the shovels.


    Gold mines were saturated with seekers. People still got rich.

    Just sayin...
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    • Profile picture of the author LooseChange
      Originally Posted by Robert M Gouge View Post

      You know who got rich during the gold rush? The guys selling the shovels.


      Gold mines were saturated with seekers. People still got rich.

      Just sayin...
      The ones who really got rich were the one's running saloons and bordellos where a tired, thirsty, horny miner could go and spend their last bit of money and find some solace in a drink and a shag.

      Interesting, where are we at with the internet today? Attend an Affiliate Summit event and you'll see nothing's changed in over 150 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author Giftys
    The net is not saturated but it is getting very busy these days. I got on in 1999 and there is a very noticeable difference between then and now. The thing is, you really need to know what you're doing these days. In 1999 you could throw up a site and quickly become an authority. Today, you've got competition everywhere. But there's still good news. As fast as you see these websites go up, they will also go down. I've seen so many come and go through the years.

    Pick a good niche, work hard, work smart, learn everything you need to know, provide good service, go over and above, etc. You've got as good a chance as anyone of making it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jkatzenback
    95% of websites also do not get updated regularly with good relevant content... as a site gets outdated google looks for better ones to replace it with. The internet saturated with websites is like saying TV saturated with TV shows.
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  • Profile picture of the author chasnsx
    The web is saturated -- with bad websites created by people who took, or are looking for, a formulaic approach to making easy money.

    In 1999-2004, anyone could pretend to be an authority on anything, and get away with it. If you wanted to create a website and a forum on Ducati motorcycles, all you needed was some stock photos and some software, and off you went.

    There are two problems with that now: 1) Everybody is doing it and has been for several years; and 2) An 800 pound gorilla has recently entered the room: The genuine Ducati enthusiast/expert, who has owned 20 Ducatis in his lifetime, and has four or five in his garage right now.

    Lately in a lot of special interest niches, the "real deal" experts have become web savvy enough to weigh in, and decide that they want their share of Adsense or commissions on parts sales on Ebay or whatever. This is part of the merging of web business and "real world" business.

    So now the guy who has a video of himself rebuilding a Ducati transmission on Youtube, and embeds it on his website, has a huge advantage over the professional internet marketer/fake enthusiast.

    This also applies to the guys who are selling shovels in the gold rush. If you are selling shovels in the gold rush, and so is everyone else, then folks are going to buy from the seller with the lowest prices -- unless one seller has a bunch of gold nuggets in the display case and is willing to tell where they were found.

    If you have genuine expertise and genuine value to contribute to the web, there is still a lot of money to be made.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    i think it is a bit and its way harder to be successful now then it is in the past. You have to offer an unique idea or service
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    • Profile picture of the author rachwrites
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      i think it is a bit and its way harder to be successful now then it is in the past.
      True, Fazal, and a lot of people are still in the "get rich quick" mode/mindset. All the adverts for "make your 1st million by Friday!" floating around don't help. It takes patience and hard work and then more patience and more hard work. That equates into time and effort, something a lot of people don't want to do. Before the boom, a marketer might have had to wait perhaps a couple weeks or a month to see healthy profits; now the same effort will take six months or a year instead.

      That's probably why a lot of sites are abandoned and just sit around cluttering up the internet - people aren't patient enough to stick to the plan long enough to see their business grow and become profitable.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Of course the Internet is saturated with websites. You can't swing a cat without hitting a few thousand. By definition, the World Wide Web has every website in existence.

        Does that mean there is no more opportunity?

        Road apples!

        I put my first website up in 1996. Prior to that, I operated on AOL and Compuserve. Back in those days, the easiest way to sell anything was to have the buyer send you money through the postal service because merchant accounts were expensive and hard to get. Banks didn't trust online security or online buyers.

        Nowadays, the mechanics of doing business are much easier. The trust level with purchasing over the 'net is much higher - a lot of people don't even think about it. There are a lot more potential buyers out there and a lot more ways to reach them.

        I don't think making money is any harder. The challenges are just different.

        It all boils down to one party amking an offer to a second party. If the second party believes that what is offered is worth more than price, they trade. If not, they don't.

        Yes, it's still that simple...
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Of course the Internet is saturated with websites. You can't swing a cat without hitting a few thousand. By definition, the World Wide Web has every website in existence.
          It's worse than that. The Web IS websites - that and search engines which list the websites. If that weren't true, then there would be a lot of creepy holes in it. Where would you go if you fell in a hole? Would strange creatures exist in the hole?

          Calling the web "saturated" is silly. It's like saying lakes are saturated with water.

          I think what you meant is whether certain subjects are saturated or not.

          Whether there are too many websites of a certain subject or not will usually be viewed from the perspective of how many are in front of yours on the search engines. If you are sitting on first page of google, there are not too many websites of the same subject even if there are 8 million behind you. If the 8 million sites of the same subject as yours happen to be listed in FRONT of yours.......then I suppose you would say the subject is saturated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Mendell
    Never think that people will stop buying products (online or off) because a particular market is saturated.

    The fact is, a lot of people will buy something JUST because it's NEW.
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  • Profile picture of the author mello87
    There are alot of ways to approach this i think. I wouldnt say it is saturated really. Does the internet really have a saturation point? The whole internet as an entity grows with the increasing amount of websites there is. More and more people are getting access to higher speed internet, which opens up all sorts of avenues with unlimited niches and product opportunities i think. However, i also think that specific niches and common markets are becoming so hard to compete in, and require masses amount of cash or know how in order to get anywhere with them. Im sure we will continue to see some pretty spectacular advances in all shapes and forms as time goes on.

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    • Profile picture of the author whynes
      Here's a perspective that might have been overlooked . . .

      While I am obviously looking into IM right now, I am so new to the topic (literally mere days into it) that I am by no means in any position to offer advice from that perspective. What I have been doing is buying stuff and services all my life -- I'm something of an expert on that end -- since long before the Internet was a twinkle in Al Gore's eye

      Some people love "shopping" (as opposed to "buying"). You would obviously need to market to them differently than you would to me. I do not like to shop. I do not like hype and inflated promises. I don't even read testimonials, and if there are too many of them obscuring the value proposition I will just move on. I typically know what my problem is, or I know what I want
      ahead of time. Obviously there are exceptions, but typically I really don't want to spend a lot of
      time and effort finding it.

      Figure out what my problem is, figure out what the solution is, figure out how to get your solution in front of my eyeballs, and offer value (whether product or service) at
      a reasonable price, and I will buy it.

      I know I could probably find it cheaper elsewhere, but I'm not willing to spend an extra day
      trying to shave off $2.00 by finding the same product or service somewhere else cheaper if it
      takes me too much effort to do so. I'm looking for value for my money, and something that
      saves me time adds to the value proposition.

      Perhaps I'm oversimplifying this, but figure out what kind of shopper or buyer you are, first. You
      are, after all, the only real expert on who you are. Then put together a project that would knock
      your socks off if you ran across it on the internet. There are probably others out there that shop
      or buy like you do.

      Even these days there are times I'm trying to find something (answer, product, service, etc) on the Internet, and all I get are a bunch of unrelated links or over-hyped sites that share nothing
      more in common with what I'm looking for than a few keywords. They hold my attention for no
      more time than it takes to click away from the page.

      Eventually I do get my answer; and not always from search engine. You'd better believe the
      next time that happens I'm going to come back to this site to see how to turn that problem into
      an opportunity.

      You are your own market!
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Originally Posted by Khoa View Post

    I've found many people have this belief that there are so many websites around selling so many things that there's no chance left to make money online.
    Well... walk away from them or talk about something else.

    Is it true? Is the Internet saturated with websites? Is there no money left to be made? :confused:
    No. No. No.

    I believe we can still make profits in online business if you find a right strategy in a niche market and provide a unique product/service to people.
    What is bolded is all you need plus desire, right knowledge, willingness to work,
    and tenacity.

    What's your opinion? Do you think "more people" will lead to more challenges or bring more opportunities?
    It doesn't matter about 'more people.' Who cares. It will only matter if you decide
    to make it matter.

    More challenges? People tend to make their own challenges, obstacles, etc...

    Bring more opportunities? That's an interesting thought and question. Opportunities
    are like rocks laying around. They are just there.

    Tomorrow morning, sit down and think about red cars for as long as you can. You'll
    find that is not as easy as it seems. Try to focus on red cars for 10 minutes. Then,
    notice how many red cars you see during the day.

    If you think opportunities are limited, then they will be. If you think they exist
    everywhere in great abundance, they will be and you'll spot them.

    If you think this is metaphysical mental masturbation, then that's ok. What ever
    you think is always ok. But harness your thoughts and use them in a way that
    extracts real power and you'll see.


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    • Profile picture of the author JohnJD
      Maybe you are surrounded by negative minded people

      I don't believe the internet is saturated, there's lots of opportunities out there to grab. I'm a newbie on IM and I've never felt there's no opportunity online. Just offer something new or different, believe in yourself and start reading a lot about IM.

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    Here's a sad truth about the internet business:

    Many people jumped on the wagon looking to get rich fast using this phenomenon, but very few ever make money online.

    Sad, but true.

    I am quite new to the Warrior Forum myself but have made quite some money (enough to cover living expenses) online.

    And when I joined this forum and had conversations with several people, I am quite surprised to see a lot of them haven't made any money online. That includes some of the senior member that joined from the 2006.

    To answer your question regarding saturation - it is a myth.

    It LOOKS saturated because there are so many people hop into this industry. Most of them do not take action so there are plenty of opportunity for those who take the time and effort to implement what they know.

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  • Profile picture of the author SonnyYoung
    I've been making money on the Internet since it all began in the 1990s with a non-IM authority site. The web has absolutely become saturated with advertising type websites which are derivatives of the real thing or just plain silly in their pretense. Many people right here admit to having hundreds of Adsense sites and/or spinning and spinning articles until the cows come home. Auto-Blogs are another lovely way to ad to the heap. Google is trying to deal with this with PANDA. The irony is that they created this mess in large part with Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    Most of the stuff sold on the internet is crap... try selling non-crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Originally Posted by Khoa View Post

    I've found many people have this belief that there are so many websites around selling so many things that there's no chance left to make money online.

    Is it true? Is the Internet saturated with websites? Is there no money left to be made? :confused:
    Add a million more websites and I will still make money. It's not about the number of sites. It's about rising above the crap. You do this through reputation, branding, and persistence.
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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    I agree. There is still much money to be made and plenty of room left.
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by Khoa View Post

    I've found many people have this belief that there are so many websites around selling so many things that there's no chance left to make money online.

    Is it true? Is the Internet saturated with websites? Is there no money left to be made? :confused:

    Yes, it is true that there are millions of websites on the Net and competition is getting tougher. But if we think about our daily life, there are even more traditional businesses selling everything under the sun. There are establishments selling things like food, clothes, toys, furniture... everywhere around us.

    I believe we can still make profits in online business if you find a right strategy in a niche market and provide a unique product/service to people.

    What's your opinion? Do you think "more people" will lead to more challenges or bring more opportunities?
    I do think the internet is saturated by websites and especially in the last three years with the global economic downturn and more people turning to IM as a means to make an income.

    There's still plenty of scope to make a living online, as more and more people are buying various online products and whilst people are doing that, there will be people trying to feed their hunger.

    Finding the right products and choosing the correct keywords preferably with low competition are key areas of any campaign.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    I sell things with websites that you'll never, ever hear about or see. That's because they're in industry niches and promoted via traditional media channels. The website is the mechanism to close the sale.

    So understanding the different functions and purposes of various websites is really important here.

    Yes, there's an abundance of garbage, but a targeted message will always win.
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  • Profile picture of the author webtwilight
    I really don't think the internet is saturated with websites. If a site is worth going to get, people will go. If the site is a waste of time, the site will eventually close down.
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  • Profile picture of the author theplugindude
    For 99% of the people who use the internet..its ALL about websites..So..I really dont think its saturated.
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  • Profile picture of the author admnaffii
    its not saturated but one thing i can add that people just see the money which is earned my online marketers but they don't know the back story of the success. Online Money Making never be saturated.
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    • Profile picture of the author iced$ugar
      It's saturated with garbage and people who don't follow through on what they do, so don't worry about what others are doing. Focus and take action. Then, if you don't succeed, you've tried
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  • Profile picture of the author cryst
    first i would let u know that.... it is not easy job to be done every one..... but ya i agree many of them are interested in making money online .... but only few of them make money.....
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  • Profile picture of the author christina ward
    Yes I think the internet is the way to go for this, Yes there is a lot of people but like he said it's just like that on the streets with food, clothes,toys. Their is a high demand and a lot of competition but it depends on the person and how hard they want to work to make money and if they are cut out for this kind of job.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      It's worse than that. The Web IS websites - that and search engines which list the websites. If that weren't true, then there would be a lot of creepy holes in it. Where would you go if you fell in a hole? Would strange creatures exist in the hole?

      Calling the web "saturated" is silly. It's like saying lakes are saturated with water.

      I think what you meant is whether certain subjects are saturated or not.

      Whether there are too many websites of a certain subject or not will usually be viewed from the perspective of how many are in front of yours on the search engines. If you are sitting on first page of google, there are not too many websites of the same subject even if there are 8 million behind you. If the 8 million sites of the same subject as yours happen to be listed in FRONT of yours.......then I suppose you would say the subject is saturated.
      When I wrote that, I was a bit burned out and mentally on cruise control. It was meant as an (apparently lame) attempt at humor.

      "The Web IS websites - that and search engines which list the websites."

      And the user interface of the search engine is - a website. And the spiral rolls on...
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    Yes it is.

    I just sold a site on Flippa that makes $150 per month. Now there's three sites that have copied all the content exactly and trying to duplicate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Banks
    There is ALWAYS room for someone to make money no matter how many websites there are. It will just end up like any other industry 55% of the people trying, failing, or just getting by, 40% doing fairly well and 5% JUST KILLING IT
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesRiley
    yeah, its the internet. lol

    Originally Posted by retsek View Post

    Yes it is.

    I just sold a site on Flippa that makes $150 per month. Now there's three sites that have copied all the content exactly and trying to duplicate it.
    someone on this forum actually made a thread saying thats what he does. copies flippa sites then runs them on adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    The internet is far from saturated with websites. It might have a lot of domain names, but the upside is that the vast majority of the domain names are promoting a small minority of products/services. It's all about finding that niche that there isn't competition or that isn't yet monetized and establishing a site there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Skinner
    It will Never be saturated for those who actively seek prospects with a problem and offer them a legitimate, affordable solution. This approach worked 1000 years ago and will work 1000 years from now. People want solutions, give it to them!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      The internet IS however, running out of IP addresses. Who knew that 4.3 billion Internet addresses wouldn't be enough?


      Warning: the world is about to run out of IP addresses
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