I am Rich from Internet Marketing!

Kevin Williams

11 years ago

The same thing you'd do 1000 years ago.

Make a product that someone wants and sell it.

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jt808 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Williams

The same thing you'd do 1000 years ago.

Make a product that someone wants and sell it.

Well said. Make an awesome product that you believe in, and the rest is history.
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elrascal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Williams

The same thing you'd do 1000 years ago.

Make a product that someone wants and sell it.

This is quite possibly the best answer I have ever read in my life. Sums it all up in one short little sentence.

People are too often caught up in the latest google trick or some fancy new bit of software.

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George Chernikov

11 years ago

Originally Posted by elrascal

This is quite possibly the best answer I have ever read in my life. Sums it all up in one short little sentence.

People are too often caught up in the latest google trick or some fancy new bit of software.

I know this wasn't Kevin's intention, but this is actually one of the worst answers you can ever give to anyone in IM, along with:

"Underpromise and overdeliver!"
"Don't be afraid to give refunds!"
"Build a list - that's where the money is!"

The problem with all three of the above is that they are little more than generic platitutes (albeit eminently accurate) that never make sense to anyone who doesn't already have experience what these platitudes encourage them to do.

On the other hand, for someone who has never developed and sold their own product before, what Kevin just said is completely meaningless. For example, how do you make a product? How do you find a good niche? What separates a good niche from a bad one? How and where do you invest your money? What makes one qualified to produce a product? How do you get traffic? And how do you break even if that traffic is paid?

It's easy to say that it all boils down to making and selling a product of your own - but it is the actual execution that often leaves people confused and hopelessly lost (and, more often than not, at the mercy of the "Don't overthink it, just take action!" crowd).

I mean, if everything was as simple as declaring a generic activity and assuming that the declaration alone is sufficient or, for that matter, even meaningful, most of the world's problems could be answered with:

"Cure cancer (stop procrastinating, don't overthinkg, just take action)"
"Eliminate global poverty (stop procrastinating, don't overthinkg, just take action)"
"Make everyone healthy (stop procrastinating, don't overthinkg, just take action)"

See what I'm getting at? Generic platitudes do not work; if you really want to help someone make money, either give them a system they can follow or, more realistically, point them to a WSO that accomplishes the same (after all, it is perfectly reasonable that someone would spend months developing a profitable marketing solution, only to sell it at $27 a piece - right?)

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masterjani

11 years ago

Everything is hit or miss in this world.

Experiments makes marketers more experienced one.

Try different things or do same things differently which used by successful marketers currently.

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Dan Allard

11 years ago

I've tried a ton of things as well. I used to make money with paid article directories- about $1,000 total from that ($600 from one article). Although that's probably alot harder to do now.

Now I do marketing consulting and freelance work. Make enough to stay at home doing that, find about half of my work through oDesk.com and the other half through my own promotions/site.

On the side I'm also trying to build a couple email lists and create info products. Hopefully I can switch to that when I start making money that way.

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E. Brian Rose

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior

Don't tell me the possible ways to make money....

Tell me some ways that are ACTUALLY MAKING YOU MONEY TODAY....

Since you put it that way...

1. Figure out what people want.
2. Create something that people want.
3. Build a list of prospects.
4. Market to that list.
5. Don't lie or use false hype in your ads.
6. Over deliver on your promises.

As somebody said above, it's been this way for thousands of years. Nothing has changed. You need to work hard at it. Don't fall for gimmicks that teach that you can skip any of the steps that I listed.

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Taruru 11 years ago

@brian...wondering if you sell any product. how did you do your research? i mean, is this like the usual marketing done for a physical business?
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Chri5123

11 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Since you put it that way...

1. Figure out what people want.
2. Create something that people want.
3. Build a list of prospects.
4. Market to that list.
5. Don't lie or use false hype in your ads.
6. Over deliver on your promises.

As somebody said above, it's been this way for thousands of years. Nothing has changed. You need to work hard at it. Don't fall for gimmicks that teach that you can skip any of the steps that I listed.

^ That is pretty much everything in a nutshell!

It IS as simple as that the HARD part is taking action...

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matt5409

11 years ago

I think there is a VAST majority of people trying to make money compared to those actually making money.

That said, I feel my hand has been very poorly dealt. Not only is it tough to earn good money online due to being in a western country, I am UK based and even anything I do on Fiverr equates to nothing due to poor conversion rates. Even if I was in the US I'd be earning more. Poor show!

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Snow_Predator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by matt5409

I think there is a VAST majority of people trying to make money compared to those actually making money.

That said, I feel my hand has been very poorly dealt. Not only is it tough to earn good money online due to being in a western country, I am UK based and even anything I do on Fiverr equates to nothing due to poor conversion rates. Even if I was in the US I'd be earning more. Poor show!

We'd be MUCH better off even in the states.

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Demond Jackson

11 years ago

Originally Posted by matt5409

I think there is a VAST majority of people trying to make money compared to those actually making money.

That said, I feel my hand has been very poorly dealt. Not only is it tough to earn good money online due to being in a western country, I am UK based and even anything I do on Fiverr equates to nothing due to poor conversion rates. Even if I was in the US I'd be earning more. Poor show!

Hey Matt, I disagree with your position. I know I live in the US, but to some degree, I don't think location is important. There are probably just as many people in the UK making a full time living online than there are here in the US. There have been some great ideas given above about what people are actually doing.

What do you do well? Article writing or product creation? SEO? Web Design or graphic design? There are tons of ways that YOU can make a full time income working from your kitchen table or local coffee shop which is where i am right now.

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Alan J Torr 11 years ago

Yeah living in blighty does suck sometimes... Although I'm off to NZ in Oct, so I'll feel rich earning in $US!... Now to put what Mr Rose just said into practice I think.
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sbucciarel

Banned 11 years ago

I sell my own products. I build websites and sell them. I have a membership site for people who want to sell my websites. Before this membership site, I sold my blogs through Niche Blogging Treasure, then I sold that business.

I also sell domains.

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Dimitris Skiadas

11 years ago

I provide my services to Fiverr.I know it's not much but i make at least 200$ per month doing simple jobs.I have a partner here in Greece for whom I write articles for 6$ each.I make informative videos and get 12$ for each one of them.I make 800-1000$ per month.It's not thousands or millions but i am making money TODAY!

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Jill Carpenter

11 years ago

Originally Posted by masterjani

Everything is hit or miss in this world.

Experiments makes marketers more experienced one.

Try different things or do same things differently which used by successful marketers currently.

Well, not everything is hit or miss.

It is about educating yourself, and doing some proper research up front so some educated guesses can be to your benefit and help you get there quicker.

A small bit of market research before entering a niche can go a really long way.

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James Sides

11 years ago

I want to introduce a concept here.

If someone put a gun to your head and said you'd die if you didn't make $1000 this week online could you do it?

My guess is yes. Most times when people are not making the money they want to make it is because they don't really want to make that money as bad as they think they do.

Now, this might not be you. I dunno.

But try this...find someone offering web design or seo services.

Now, go out every day and pitch 10 offline business these services.

You don't even have to know how to do them yourself. There are warriors here who offer these services who are total experts. So go hire em and act as a middle man.

You can earn six figures THIS year doing only this if you are willing to put the work in it requires to obtain new clients.

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ankur sharma

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Fenderkid

I want to introduce a concept here.

If someone put a gun to your head and said you'd die if you didn't make $1000 this week online could you do it?

My guess is yes. Most times when people are not making the money they want to make it is because they don't really want to make that money as bad as they think they do.

Now, this might not be you. I dunno.

But try this...find someone offering web design or seo services.

Now, go out every day and pitch 10 offline business these services.

You don't even have to know how to do them yourself. There are warriors here who offer these services who are total experts. So go hire em and act as a middle man.

You can earn six figures THIS year doing only this if you are willing to put the work in it requires to obtain new clients.

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James

James, trust me some people will prefer to die.

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Beatrice 11 years ago

If someone put a gun to your head and said you'd die if you didn't make $1000 this week online could you do it?

I'd probably be dead then....
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J Bold

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Garage667

I provide my services to Fiverr.I know it's not much but i make at least 200$ per month doing simple jobs.I have a partner here in Greece for whom I write articles for 6$ each.I make informative videos and get 12$ for each one of them.I make 800-1000$ per month.It's not thousands or millions but i am making money TODAY!

You have the right attitude, to work hard. This is what I propose, as well, because frankly, not everyone can be good at marketing.

Sell services, build up a budget, make sure you are getting by, and maybe then you can slowly transition to higher payday marketing efforts.

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Kingpin2012

11 years ago

Hi,

Can anyone show me what is the best way to make £10 a day from Internet marketing.

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Chris Donne

11 years ago

The simple answer to the issue is, focus on building your list, without a large list life is difficult, in fact the reason most of us go online is to free up our time, not slave at a computer writing articles, making videos cross linking , backlinking and everything you are supposed to do, Ofcourse i am only speaking my my own personal experience. As soon as i focused 90% of my online time building a large list, then building a relationship with that list, that when i started actually making some sensible money. Hope it helps, good luck

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ColleenHale 11 years ago

I'm just starting out and I would also like to know if people are truly making a living doing IM. Obviously everyone's income varies but I wonder if the HUGE paydays are actually possible. Anyone on here making over $10,000 a month?

List building seems to be the best option that I'm hearing about in every forum. What is the best way to build a quality list? Are there people making money through lists without their own products?
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Gclunis

11 years ago

Look into selling and outsourcing services. Hire a stable designer, get orders, outsource orders to designer, get paid, pay designer, pocket difference.

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11 years ago

I make $5,000+ per month from my Web Design/SEO Consulting business

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nimi67

11 years ago

I have been reading all these suggestions lsince i just bought the domain and hosting three days ago.......I guess i have lots to learn......
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eWebCats

11 years ago

The only way I ever made money was when I decided I'd had enough and started selling my sites. Then I realized people are hungry to be online, but suck at building sites. So I began building unique websites and selling them. Got tired of that though, but it's decent money. Now I am focused on offline marketing, there is a whole new world for you where you can actually make real money and help local businesses at the same time! There's a whole forum for this right here at WF! You should head over and check it out. Let me know if this is what you're looking for. It satisfies me!

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eWebCats

11 years ago

"I am Rich from Internet Marketing!"

By the way, I thought the easiest way is to change your name to Rich, then you would be Rich from Internet marketing!

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11 years ago

When you figure out how let me know.

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MandLoys

11 years ago

Easiest way to make money is to sell Amazon products. You probably won't make tons of money, but you'll get the feeling. Plus you can test the site built for Amazon with AdSense as well. And other ecommerce shops!

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MarcoJardel 11 years ago

Sell a product or sell a service and you'll make money, it really is that simple.

Most people who fail to make money Online are either thinking too much (and not doing anything), taking the wrong course of action, or giving up too early.

For example, i've seen countless people set up sites to promote affiliate offers and then give up because traffic hasn't been coming in... The thing is, they give up when they haven't bust their ass to generate any....
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  Find the product...then, find the market, and give people what they want...join the dots...be the middle man...
  
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Fazal Mayar

11 years ago

i tried a lot of things and figured out that afifliate marketing and blogging is cool. Product creation is what i should start doing!

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JayVance

11 years ago

Here is what I do to make money online,

1. I build niche sites that I rank for competitive keywords in Google
2. Those sites either have adsense or affiliate products for monetization
3. Create my own products that I promote
4. Build e-mail lists to sell even more products
5. Profit?

There are other ways to make money online, article writing, selling services, creating membership sites, etc.

If you want to make money online you have to work hard at it and stick with one method. IM takes sacrifices just like any other business out there. This is a major road block for most people who work a full time job already and a big reason why so many fail at IM. They either expect a get rich quick scheme or they fail to invest the time. Instead of taking action they buy WSO after WSO dreaming of getting rich instead of getting off their butt.

Work your butt off, create quality content and products that people will want, the type of stuff that solves people's problems, and they will keep coming back for more. Your reputation is everything, don't forget that.

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11 years ago

Adsense is working well for me, so that is my suggestion.

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eWebCats

11 years ago

James, trust me some people will prefer to die.

That's pretty funny ankur sharma, but Fenderkid is right, you can earn easy monthly income with offline marketing. I'll give you one example of how Iim doing it. I'm building websites and renting them out. One quick example you can build a wedding planner website or dentist or whatever business. Then rocket them to page 1 on a google search (my fastest got on page 1 three hours after publishing it! I know that sounds like bull s#@*, but it's true, it works! Then you rent them out for $197 - $397 per month to a business in the city that you chose to optimise. Now 5 sites @ $400 = $2000 per month. There's plenty of information right here on Warrior Forum. Check it out!

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11 years ago

Sounds logical. You make the site, rank it #1 and then look for businesses to pay for the spot??? How do you know anyone will take you up on the offer?

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That's pretty funny ankur sharma, but Fenderkid is right, you can earn easy monthly income with offline marketing. I'll give you one example of how Iim doing it. I'm building websites and renting them out. One quick example you can build a wedding planner website or dentist or whatever business. Then rocket them to page 1 on a google search (my fastest got on page 1 three hours after publishing it! I know that sounds like bull s#@*, but it's true, it works! Then you rent them out for $197 - $397 per month to a business in the city that you chose to optimise. Now 5 sites @ $400 = $2000 per month. There's plenty of information right here on Warrior Forum. Check it out!

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Mike McAleer

11 years ago

I have been doing some domain flipping/monetizing and it works quite well.

I am planning on building a big product for Domain Flipping the future.

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mlcmartin

11 years ago

You either make your own stuff and sell it OR (VASTLY VASTLY EASIER!) you buy stuff that other people make and sell it.

Start like this: FIRST look for a product that EVERYBODY wants to buy (ok, let's say, a product that a vast majority of people would at least CONSIDER buying once a year.

THEN get this product cheap, perhaps in bulk, from a manufacturer. Order a larger lot and sell it piece by piece.

Easiest way to make money. No need to write ebooks, struggle with seo etc. Just buy stuff and sell it.. ONLINE ;-)

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yssync 11 years ago

It would be great if I can get some examples of "own product" from everyone?

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Jamie Drew

11 years ago

Ever hear of the story about the Gold Rush? The people selling the tools made more money than the people mining the gold!

Think of this. What does an Internet Marketer need? A squeeze, thank you and download page! Can you build good ones? Sell that service!

Traffic... how do they get it? Can you get it for them? Sell a targeted traffic service if you can!

New graphics for PLR products! Can you make them using something free? Do that and sell the service!

A lot of people are selling services though, so contact a few people and offer your services for free in exchange for a worthy testimonial, but only offer a service that you're good at.

If the person says "I don't really like it." Ask them what you can do to make it better, thus giving you a better idea of what people want.

Then if you can offer these people repeat services. try to get them on some kind of list so that you can email them any kind of special offers you have or special services you can offer.

Also, make sure it's some you like doing. If it's something you're not interested in, you lose your enthusiasm eventually it starts to become a chore! Remember why you got in to making money online in the first place, so that you don't have to go and face those "chores" in your day job! Well for most IMer's anyway.

Hope this gives you or someone reading this a few ideas.

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eWebCats

11 years ago

Good luck to you.

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seotechnician

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior

"I am Rich from Internet Marketing!"

That is what I would be saying if I lived in a third world country where $10 a month could go a long way.

Instead I have spent years trying to figure out how to make money online, but alas I have never had any kind of Huge Pay Day or even a medium payday...like every single WSO and Clickbank Product promises....

Somebody.....

Don't tell me the possible ways to make money....

Tell me some ways that are ACTUALLY MAKING YOU MONEY TODAY....

Thanks Warriors

I have been doing Internet Marketing for the past 16 years. In recent years, I have been making a decent amount of passive income each month. It is good money especially considering the money does not require any work. It currently is not enough to pay all the bills. However, the key is it is repeatable. Since I have my stream of passive income created,
I know how to get more.

When I have time, I offer SEO, web design services, internet marketing, Google Adwords, website shopping cart integration and other services to clients. I have made GREAT money offering these services.

There is a difference between passive income and services. Passive income allows you to do whatever you want and you will still receive a paycheck. Services require you to give of your time.

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MarkPavic 11 years ago

Find 12 experts in your niche and interview them. There you have it, your own product you can start selling. This is the fastest and easiest way to make money, build your brand and build a list in that market.
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11 years ago

Thanks for all of the advice guys.

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marybchaveza 11 years ago

Wow the thread title was misleading. At least you make $10. You have to scale that up.
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11 years ago

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Building a list is only a first Step ..

Next Step is to build Your preeminence with your list members (Gain Their Trust, be Honest)

Serve Them With Your Skillz .. Give them What they want and they will give you what you want ...

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Nulli Secundus

11 years ago

Begin with selling services then after you have generated enough money reinvest it in creating a website based around a profitable topic, create an auto responder series with click bank products or physical products, anything that offers a conversion rate and makes sense with the theme of the auto responder

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Niky Ray 11 years ago

The highway of earning money online (or offline) is giving people what they need, while they believe that they get what they want.

In other words, provide a solution to a persisting, massive problem, but make sure to sugar-coat it with a burning desire. Weightloss industry is a great example of this behavior: People need to be healthy but they want to be sexy.That's why they pull out their credit cards almost hypnotized every time someone sells to them sizzling hot looks

But there is a problem: People buy what they want, but get really frustrated when they find out that they didn't need it... :rolleyes:

So, you need to become a magician: You have to take care of your customers' real needs while they're busy satisfying their wildest desires!
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11 years ago

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Joe Benjamin

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior

"I am Rich from Internet Marketing!"

That is what I would be saying if I lived in a third world country where $10 a month could go a long way.

Instead I have spent years trying to figure out how to make money online, but alas I have never had any kind of Huge Pay Day or even a medium payday...like every single WSO and Clickbank Product promises....

Somebody.....

Don't tell me the possible ways to make money....

Tell me some ways that are ACTUALLY MAKING YOU MONEY TODAY....

Thanks Warriors

Well, it's a simple answer really:

1. Learn how to SELL

2. Learn how to MARKET

3. Learn how to build relationships & trust
(build lists)

Do those three things and you'll NEVER be
without a penny to your name.

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omk

11 years ago

I think what determines success is having tunnel vision and seriously working your butt off at whichever IM method you selected. Most marketers who fail have enough knowledge, but don't really focus or try hard enough. You must really attack IM like a business in order to start seeing results.

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Toby.T

11 years ago

Originally Posted by omk

I think what determines success is having tunnel vision and seriously working your butt off at whichever IM method you selected. Most marketers who fail have enough knowledge, but don't really focus or try hard enough. You must really attack IM like a business in order to start seeing results.

words to live by. plan your attack, and do it. If it fails remember why and move on.

What ever you do in IM is useful, no time is wasted when trying to make $$$ online.

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Jasim

11 years ago

amazon has been working well for me much better than adsense ever did

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Heather H 11 years ago

I am NOT rich from internet marketing, but I make my full time living online. I found a method I liked and made me a little money. I stopped buying stuff. I found a forum that taught what I wanted to learn. I started working and focusing. I measured my results.

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magnates 11 years ago

Wanna make money today ?

Solve people problems .... Find out what they want that hasn't happened yet and be the one to give it to do them

Of course , you have to be competent .. You give crap , you would get boatloads of refunds

So ,the quality has to be there ...

What can you do ... I bet everybody reading can probably write very good English

You can offer an article writing service for people who need ...$6 a pop ... you are earning

Can you turn around and buy get an speech writer software like Dragon Naturally Speaking 11 and write 10 time more article and make 10 time the amount

Of course you can

As long as you are willing to do the work , there is plenty of money for you
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gregbanks 11 years ago

I want to add something I know will change your look on marketing.

Specifically, I applaud the people saying "Find what someone wants and sell it" - but there's more to it than that which I want to explain:

FOCUS ON A RESULT THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO ACHIEVE

When you start marketing, most people tend to focus on the superficial stuff. That means, you look at products, services and "things" that you can sell. Everyone does it - it's just natural.

The problem with thinking about what products you can sell is that you forget why people buy stuff in the first place -> everyone wants a result. And normally, they don't care about how they get that result as long as it seems wacky, has good packaging and seems trustworthy.

This means that when you're starting out - look for people who need help. Don't even think about products or services or yourself. Think about them - think about how you can provide something that's really going to help them achieve the result they want.

I CALL THIS "MARKETING TO THE CORE" (FRANK KERN CALLS IT THE CORE INFLUENCE)

Each time you want to buy a product, it's not because you want to get that thing. It's because you have a deep-rooted passion, want or need to get the result that thing promises. That's why diet pills sell so well - because they are meant to deliver a result that most people want (to lose weight without thinking about it).

This is the reason why some products can sell for an astonishingly high price without many people even flinching about paying, because they want to be part of some super exclusive club and expect to pay top dollar for doing so. It's funny because if I went up to someone with a marketing product and said "this costs $3,000 will you buy it", I'll get laughed out of the building. However, if I laid the pitch out correctly and marekted to their CORE - and said "what if you could have a system where you didn't have to work again and just relied on a series of websites to bring in an income, how much would that be worth?", they'd proably be willing to write me a check for $5,000 or more.

WHEN "RESEARCHING" - ALWAYS LOOK FOR A RESULT THAT SOMEONE WANTS, AND THEN DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM THAT RESULT

One of the biggest markets ever is weight loss, right?

Want to know why? It's because almost everyone in the World wants to lose weight. And when a solution is created for that, demonstrates that it can provide results - you can build a $400 million empire from it.

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I want to share a sneaky tip on this topic.

If you want to make big money, just locate where the MOST PRODUCTS have been produced for a particular group of people. The presence of products, as many of you will point out, is a sure sign that people want the result those products provide. This means that these "product pools" are actually going to provide you with a bread-crumb trail right back to people who want to buy something - therein solving your problem.

What I like to do is to find a large group of people buying products. I look at the products and work out what their core results are. Then I look to create & promote a product which is different, but still helps achieve those core results.

That's how you create a product with a USP. Then you just got to promote it.
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11 years ago

first off 99.9% of everyone who tries fails. What helped me is writing a check that hurt me realy bad so I would focus and pay attention to what my mentor told me, that did it for me. I'm sure it's diferent for everyone else. Good luck.

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JamesGw

11 years ago

Just stay persistent and continue working toward your goal. Don't forget to research your niche and the variety of products in it. Make sure to check out your competition to see what they are doing. And don't forget to network with people in the same (or similar) niche. It's a great way to get some JV partners or just some advice.

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Eric Speidel

11 years ago

Don't make it harder than it is. Here's what I do:

Scrape a list of keywords. Run them through a keyword tool. Keep the promising ones, get a domain containing that keyword, create neat content and monetize it. You can easily set up 3-5 sites daily that day. Then do linkbuilding. It's that simple.
Once you make some decent money out of it, outsource the tasks and make even more.

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Justin Lavoie

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Speidel

Don't make it harder than it is. Here's what I do:

Scrape a list of keywords. Run them through a keyword tool. Keep the promising ones, get a domain containing that keyword, create neat content and monetize it. You can easily set up 3-5 sites daily that day. Then do linkbuilding. It's that simple.
Once you make some decent money out of it, outsource the tasks and make even more.

Well im quite new to all this internet marketing but I read ALOT and paid for different trainings, WSOs, etc.. and seriously, what you say is exactly what I am doing right now...(trying to

)

However, im lucky enough to have some money to invest and am able to pay experienced people to create my stuff and promote it so I can learn from them and after that I will take all this knowledge and probably do what im best at by myself and leave the boring parts to other people (paid).

I have an offline business (not into marketing at all) with employees,offices and eveything... Over the years I have learned that you have to do what you are good at and let other people do the parts you cant do or are not good at.. Thats what I am trying to implement here.

My goal is to get some affiliate sites working and from there decide if I want to go on the flipping side or the keep-them-all-for-accumulated-profit side.

I havent made a dime yet, im pretty new to all this, no site yet (getting one built right now) but my goal is to have enough income every month to sell my business and stay at home with my family selling stuff online/ or services offline. I KNOW I can do it. When you KNOW you can do it, it happens. When you THINK you can do it, you end up never making it most of the time..

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JackPowers

11 years ago

I will say what I think is the most realistic way for most people to make money:

1. Start a website about something you are passionate about and keep piling on good content
2. Learn SEO and backlinking
3. Get traffic from Google
4. Add a social/community aspect of your website
5. Branch into other niches using the link and traffic power of your authority site

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celente

11 years ago

Originally Posted by JackPowers

I will say what I think is the most realistic way for most people to make money:

1. Start a website about something you are passionate about and keep piling on good content
2. Learn SEO and backlinking
3. Get traffic from Google
4. Add a social/community aspect of your website
5. Branch into other niches using the link and traffic power of your authority site

You hit it on teh head.

Find something that works, and just keep doing that, do not deviate from the plan. Too many times marketers try to go and find the holy grail secret da vinci code to how to make money online. Only to find that there is nothing but hot air.

Just stick to you guns, and stop swaping from what one thing to the other. Once I did that, the $ and chunky change came

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sdentrepreneur

11 years ago

Making money online is not difficult at all. Find a product everyone is searching for, place your ad where these people are searching, have a good sales funnel and build your list.
Market your product or service to that list. Done deal...

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cchipster

11 years ago

The people that have found the formula surely arent going to 'give it away' or go in to any detail on here. This I can almost guarantee.

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Giftys 11 years ago

Originally Posted by cchipster

The people that have found the formula surely arent going to 'give it away' or go in to any detail on here. This I can almost guarantee.

Yet you can figure it out by putting the pieces of the puzzle in here together. People collectively share a LOT of information.
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- Shadowflux 11 years ago
  
  Warning: I'm really tired so my suggestion might be completely worthless.
  
  Here is what I, not knowing you personally, think you should do:
  
  Forget about making money from "Internet Marketing"
  
  Now, I'm not saying you should quit and get a day job. I've seen a lot of people having the same type of problem as yourself, they're not making any money from internet marketing.
  
  Internet Marketing doesn't make you money, if anything, it costs you money.
  
  What actually makes you money is having a product or service that you can exchange for other people's money. Internet marketing is simply marketing on the internet.
  
  You need something to market
  
  Take me for example, I make my money by providing a service. While that service may technically be in the field of marketing on the internet it isn't the marketing itself that makes me money. In fact, when I spend time marketing I'm losing time that I could be spending on earning.
  
  Marketing is simply the art of making people aware of your product or service.
  
  I will usually operate in phases. There is the marketing phase where I'm generating leads and, hopefully, converting those into clients. I collect enough clients that my schedule is full and I move onto the work phase. I hardly do any marketing at all, other than some passive stuff, while I'm in the work phase. I then repeat when necessary.
  
  What I'm trying to say, in my very tired way, is that people need to stop thinking of "Internet Marketing" as this thing that makes you money, it's not. Internet marketing is simply using the internet to make people aware of your product or service. If what you're promoting is good and does what it promises then it's simply a numbers game.
  
  If you can make 50 people aware of what you're promoting and then convert even just 1 or 2 of them into customers then you're making money.
  
  There really isn't any big secret to it, you just need to be promoting a quality product or service that you believe in. You can always just pay people for the really detail oriented things like writing copy and designing webpages.
  
  I wish you the best of luck, I think that all you need to do is look at it from a different angle.
  
  Now it's time for me to go to bed.
  
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mookinman

11 years ago

A quick and easy way to make money with very little skill or effort is to promote the "order food online" niche. I explain more in my blog (see sig)

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Eric Speidel

11 years ago

Well, you won't get really rich from affiliate marketing. The big money is in selling your own services/products. However, SEO is my strongest partner for IM.

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Kevilinsky

11 years ago

I agree with Eric. I believe selling your own product is where it's at. I've heard it from many of the pros.

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apollocreed

11 years ago

To be honest $10 a day is nothing these days in third world countries.

House and property prices in many parts of Africa for example rival those in Western Europe and the USA. Food and beverage prices are slowly catching up to Western standards.

$10 a day is poor in the USA and is also poor in Africa and the third world.

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MMWoodward

11 years ago

I make a little bit of pocket money here or there by writing articles. Sometimes, when projects are up, I use CloudCrowd. I've also made some sales on Constant-Content, even if that takes away quite the chunk of your earning. I'm still in the process of gaining clients on my own, but I know that it will come in due time with persistence. I just went into IM knowing that I wasn't going to hit it big right off the bat, because very few people actually do.

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Dusty S

11 years ago

The only thing holding any one back from succeeding online is lack of knowledge and lack of desire to act on that knowledge once you get it.

We all have the desire in us to be great, but what good does it do for someone to do the work for you?

Spend some money, get some skin in the game, then the knowledge you gain can be put to use, educate yourself, put in the time and research.

Or do it the old fashion way, join a offline business and do it face to face. I make 200 dollars a month on the side of my real job selling vitamins to customers because I have a product story, and I live it and I wear the button.

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BigNorm

11 years ago

The other side of the coin to that comment is to much information and to overwhelmed to do anything substantial with it.

I agree with nearly every comment on here. You will make money from the different steams mentioned here, but the one thing all these comments have in common is that they're all multiples. Multiples websites built and sold, multiple review sites, multiple articles written make money, multiple adsense and amazon sites.

Alot of people who start out in internet marketing assume that their first website will make them rich and thats all that needs to happen. While granted their is the odd case where someone stumbles onto a gem and makes some good money from their first site or article a majority of us won't and don't. The secret is to build your first site till it makes it's first sale or income stream, then while your scaling that site to generate more, you build your second site along the same lines, and then your third, fourth and so.

Same goes with article marketing and offline sales, figure whats the best angle to approach a new client offline and when it works, upscale it and use it again on a new client.

Making money online is about multiples. I have alot of sites which make a little bit of money, but all those sites together make me a fair bit of money which is all going into my next site which even though has been up and rebuilt in the last few weeks is already making sales and pretty much well breaks alot of the rules of IM and niche marketing.

Originally Posted by Dusty S

The only thing holding any one back from succeeding online is lack of knowledge and lack of desire to act on that knowledge once you get it.

We all have the desire in us to be great, but what good does it do for someone to do the work for you?

Spend some money, get some skin in the game, then the knowledge you gain can be put to use, educate yourself, put in the time and research.

Or do it the old fashion way, join a offline business and do it face to face. I make 200 dollars a month on the side of my real job selling vitamins to customers because I have a product story, and I live it and I wear the button.

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GoogleWarrior

11 years ago

Wow... I came back from work and now this thread has over 1000 views... Maybe this is a record for me in the WF!

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michaeldoring

11 years ago

Affiliate Marketing, write the content, add the links, drive the traffic, and your making fat stacks. Works for me.

Failure is the path to success, so your on the right track, stay motivated and keep at it.

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Phuoc

11 years ago

Your list is probably your best asset from what I've read. So start building your list today, and treat your list with respect. Gaining trust, building a relationship with your list and monetizing it sounds like the way to go..

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11 years ago

"You can get everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want."

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11 years ago

can I help you? if yes,let me send you an ebook that will literally help you to make money, it works if you do it the right way.

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11 years ago

I am still learning how to earn money online based in China.

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dagaul101

11 years ago

The best ways is to stick with the mainstream, like Amazon, CJ, Clickbank et al. find products and services that you would like to promote, then develop niche sites around them, it is a good idea to be interested in the products because it will take time, getting ranking for these sites which will in turn turn into sales

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brenda ashford

11 years ago

well there is money online but you have to be shape on how to get it.1st and foremost
you have to do SEO for your site,get the right content and create links for your site.lastly invest in a newsletter. all the best in internet marketing.

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11 years ago

Hi:

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Find out what works best for you & focus all your effort

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Kevin Rayman

11 years ago

Don't trust the wsos. They are just promising the whole world because thats the way they are earning money. Just put up your own wso.

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11 years ago

Arbitrage!

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AndyBlackSEO

11 years ago

There are SO many ways in which to earn a passive income or any kind of income for that matter from internet marketing. BUT.. you have to grasp it. So many people go down the wrong path or do things half heartedly. For example, a few years ago someone who I was giving a bit of advice too shown me what they were setting up in order to make money. This guys graphics and sales page were really bad. Very unprofessional looking and to me, if someone visited that page they would most likely click away from it within seconds BECAUSE it just did not scream quality. It didn't even whisper it. Everything you do within your internet marketing business needs to be done right. Whether this is creating graphics, developing a product, writing sales copy, creating promo videos. If you wouldn't buy from your site then why would anyone else? You need to make sure they are done to the best of your ability (or your outsourcers ability). If your sales pitch looks bad... then why would people assme the product your offering is top notch?

To make money online you need a product. Then you need to create a sales funnel for that product. Then you need to promote that product. That's it. There's no mystery to it. You just need to check all the boxes and then work hard to achieve each step and task to the required level.

Before you start your project it's a good idea to make a list. Make a list of EVERYTHING you need to do from start to finish. ie - Find or create a product. Buy a suitable domain. Create a nice looking sales page, write powerful sales copy, add your payment button, do onpage SEO, build links, write some articles etc etc. Set yourself a milestone and then tick each one off as you go along.

Internet marketing is a business and to make it work you need to put the effort in like you would an offline business. Realise it isn't a quick solution to making money but its a good one if you get it right. A business that once set in motion can make you money whilst you sleep.

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11 years ago

The key to success online is knowing more than the rest of the competition. As you know the barrier to entry online is super low so everyone is facing some really intense competition. This leaves the big majority of website owners with little or no money. So I would encourage you to study success stories, educate in strategies that works the best and if you know more than your competition then you are already ahead of them and can dominate your market. Good luck!!

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11 years ago

Amazon affiliate program is more likely to be work faster than of other affiliate programs.

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11 years ago

If it were easy everyone would be getting rich. People aren't going to share their best ideas. Who wants competition.

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11 years ago

Do your homework and find someone who's authentic and having the kind of REAL success online you want to experience. Then, contact them to be your personal coach and do whatever they tell you to do. Stay away from the hype.

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11 years ago

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11 years ago

I guess that the best answer is to have many different income streams. The more, the better. One day you make money selling something, but many other days you don't sell anything. So, you have to have something else giving you money without depending on only one money-making method.

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11 years ago

I think what happens to many of us is that we go from one thing to another to fast. Pick one idea and put everything you got into it. After a while you don't see it going anywhere, then pick something else and stick with it.

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Glad Warrior

11 years ago

Offer services or create a product and sell (that people want)

Once you have good amount of money in hand.. Buy tools and start doing SEO to your affiliate/adsense/CPA sites

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StevenJones

11 years ago

Do research on what people need. Create an information product that answers the needs of the people you did research on. Sell the product.

It's that easy.

Or set this product up for FREE and build a list. Use this targetted list to sell more valuable content.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior

Tell me some ways that are ACTUALLY MAKING YOU MONEY TODAY....

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George Chernikov

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEOpsychic

it's not easy to make money anywhere. IM is not easy, nothing is. but if you'll take my advice, i'd suggest you venture in the forex business. it's great source of income. with that i don't mean you should trade or whatever, you can become a money manger or even if you don't know how to trade you can be a forex affiliate of products. this is a robot that auto trades and makes money you can sell it. each sale bring you $300. so 5 sales you bring is $1500, i call that easy money since the ea is actually easy to sell.
oh, you can even be an IB, make a simple forex site and earn some cash by just referring people to trader using a particular brokers. i am an IB for a forex broker and as of 25 May, i have made about $140 by doing only SEO. that's the least you could do. sometimes it's tough, sometimes very easy.

i have tried many methods to make money online in the past and found the forex market to be relatively easy. not even my seo services makes me as much money as in the forex world.

hope this helps and encourages you.

PS: don't do something you don't love, else you waste your time. eventually you'll giving up nothing having earned anything. but if you love it, you never give up and sooner or later you'll be making money as well.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Look, a Forex robot that makes money. Now I've seen it all.

Excuse me while I go and put all my life's savings into the robot's hands - I mean, it's consistently profitable, right? It's been tested by expert programmers and developed by a combination of professional traders and mathematicians. Actually, if the FOREX robot you're endorsing as an affiliate (and you are endorsing it, otherwise why would you be promoting it?) is so great, why even bother being an affiliate instead of letting the robot trade with your money?

When will people learn that truly profitable trading algorithms cost tens of millions to develop and form a closely guarded trade secret that would never leave the Wall Street firm that owns it?

Sorry, but people peddling forex solutions as affiliates are exactly what's wrong with the IM industry - you're basically promoting a product that sooner or later will blow up your trading account when used. No wonder the FTC is seeking to regulate IM - next thing you know, there'll be affiliate programmes for cocaine...

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Fernando Veloso 11 years ago

Originally Posted by George Chernikov

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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George, can YOU edit your post to remove his links?

His post is already reported btw.
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  Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso
  
  George, can YOU edit your post to remove his links?
  
  His post is already reported btw.
  
  Done and done; shame that people like him are also in the War Room...
  
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Fernando Veloso

11 years ago

To start keep it to the basic:

You need a product people want > you need to be seen so people can buy from you.

This is marketing 101.

When you have this settled, you can expand on different stuff, sales funnel, convertions, etc etc.

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Nail Yener

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GoogleWarrior

Tell me some ways that are ACTUALLY MAKING YOU MONEY TODAY....

I can tell you that if you want to say something different a few years from now, start building a long term income model. Do not go after only fast/easy cash, instant-riches methods. While trying them in the process, make sure you also take some action that will bring guaranteed money to you in the long term.

So, the best and easiest example for this that I can give is to build a website, a blog, a niche site (whatever you name it) around a topic that you like to talk about, research, learn and share your knowledge with others, and add content to it consistently. Even if you post one article on that website per week, you will have a 50+ pages website 1 year from now. Even if you do zero promotion and zero off-page SEO, that site will absolutely bring you some traffic, which you can monetize using dozens of methods like AdSense, Amazon, Clickbank, CPA, CPM, Selling Ad Space, Sellign your own products etc. And once it starts to drop, you can always improve it and make it flow.

To summarize, build a website about anything you like and work on it consistently like most of the other internet marketers who make consistent money.

Another way is to offer services to people, but this might not be as charming as the passive income a developed website could bring in.

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uebomoyi

11 years ago

Get an experienced marketer to coach you, that's what I'm doing right now, Ihighly recommend you subscribe to any of these guys' lists: Jon McNeil, Gavin Stephenson or Devon Brown-- these guys know what they are talking about and I'm proof of their hard work, especially Jon McNeil's..... God bless him- he provides a lot of quality info with no fluff and gets straight to the point and best of all answers your emails. Now that's hard to find...

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johnbro

11 years ago

I totally agree on the views on Amazon, this has been the turning point for me. All this while I went where the herd were headed and everywhere I see clickbank, clickbank and only clickbank and very less mention of Amazon. Obviously clickbank works for many people there's no denying this fact.

But what people don't realize is that it takes relatively much more to convert clickbank, and the brand equity and the trust factor on Amazon is so strong that the conversion is easier. Although the commission may be lower but the higher conversion makes up for it.

And believe me, after the long struggle it was so encouraging and motivating seeing those conversions at Amazon.

The free training at buildrankprofit(.com) changed my whole perspective and Amazon was the turning point for me.

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Ryan1

11 years ago

Create a site that people actually visit. If you have a site that gets 10,000 visitors a month you will be able to make money from them. If you have a site that gets 100 visitors a month then you will struggle to make money. Get the traffic and then work out how to sell to it.

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espe

11 years ago

find a niche
find a problem
provide a solution
make money
laugh to the bank
pretty simple uh?

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Justin Lavoie

11 years ago

Sales are the easy part. Getting traffic is the major problem. Yes you can create a website and wait for traffic to grow and then start selling products...but this could take months and could end up not working. You can also build your sales page first and pay to get instant traffic...however, you could still not make a dime if you dont do it right. It's all about how you do it and how much you really want to succeed. You chose one path and follow it till the end. Keep reading and learning stuff about this path, forget everything else. Watching free webinars from the bests out there and asking them questions, thats the way I learned the fastest. Do what you like, not what other people tell you to do.

You have to decide which way your are confortable with. One thing is important however, quality over quantity.

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WebPen

11 years ago

I have 1 word for you.

Services.

If you want to make money FAST, that's your best bet.

If you have some capital you can try paid traffic and tweaking until you're in the black, but selling services is one of the best ways to get started.