Flipping domains/sites

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"Flipping" is where you buy something, develop or market it, and then sell it again soon afterwards for a profit. A lot of entrepreneurs do this full time and make good profit with property, or if they have good management talents with businesses.

Does it work with URLs?

Buy a new domain or an expired one cheap, set up a word press blog or whypark site, then use backlinking software (SEnukeX, submitteaze etc) to increase the PR.
After a while when it has a lot of backlinks, its been suitably crawled, and google has FINALLY done a new PR update - relist the domain name and sell it for a profit.

It may not be quick money (taking a while for a lot of back links to get crawled, and google to do PR updates) but in the mean time you can have an affiliate site turning a few $$s as well.

Does this work? Just how far do you need to take the marketing effort to see a decent return?
#domains or sites #flipping
  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Hi Phill,

    The problem with this idea is that the value you're creating is a false value. Sure, it would work, but it's like selling a fully inflated balloon to a kid and letting the nozzle go when you hand it to them. They're left with the empty balloon, not the content they were expecting.

    Flipping domains based on their intrinsic value is a different story. The buyer knows they're getting just the "balloon", not the "air". After they buy, they have exactly what they expected.

    I've been flipping domain names full time for over 7 years, and have never once had a customer come back wondering what happened to the "PR", or "traffic", or whatever other external benefit some people promise, because I only sell the domain name, nothing more.
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    • Profile picture of the author sammytoga
      Gene -
      If you were to purchase a new domain, is there a time limit before you can sell it? Let's say I buy a domain at auction, renew it for a year, could I sell it a few days later? For some reason I thought there is a 60 days from registration rule before you can transfer it.

      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      Hi Phill,

      The problem with this idea is that the value you're creating is a false value. Sure, it would work, but it's like selling a fully inflated balloon to a kid and letting the nozzle go when you hand it to them. They're left with the empty balloon, not the content they were expecting.

      Flipping domains based on their intrinsic value is a different story. The buyer knows they're getting just the "balloon", not the "air". After they buy, they have exactly what they expected.

      I've been flipping domain names full time for over 7 years, and have never once had a customer come back wondering what happened to the "PR", or "traffic", or whatever other external benefit some people promise, because I only sell the domain name, nothing more.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
        Originally Posted by sammytoga View Post

        Gene -
        If you were to purchase a new domain, is there a time limit before you can sell it? Let's say I buy a domain at auction, renew it for a year, could I sell it a few days later? For some reason I thought there is a 60 days from registration rule before you can transfer it.
        There is NO time constraint. You can sell a domain name two minutes after you register it.

        The 60-day rule you're talking about is in regard to transferring a domain name from one registration service to a different registration service.

        When I sell a "new" domain name, I simply create a new account at the SAME registrar, push the domain from my account to the new account, then give the buyer the username and password. Done.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      Hi Phill,

      The problem with this idea is that the value you're creating is a false value. Sure, it would work, but it's like selling a fully inflated balloon to a kid and letting the nozzle go when you hand it to them. They're left with the empty balloon, not the content they were expecting.

      Flipping domains based on their intrinsic value is a different story. The buyer knows they're getting just the "balloon", not the "air". After they buy, they have exactly what they expected.

      I've been flipping domain names full time for over 7 years, and have never once had a customer come back wondering what happened to the "PR", or "traffic", or whatever other external benefit some people promise, because I only sell the domain name, nothing more.
      Totally agreed. I would suggest selling the domain name itself so you don't have problems in the future. It may be PR3 after attention you put into the site, but once a customer that doesn't know SEO gets it, it's going to go down.
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  • Profile picture of the author CoolCaesar
    It's all about the keywords and the niche you are targeting.

    If you find the right keywords and register a good domain name with a little seo effort you could be selling a website on flippa for like $10k in 3-4 months.

    A lot of poeple do this.. you just have to do a lot of research and find the right keywords.. that is the Big Secret!
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  • Profile picture of the author flippianstar11
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    coolcaeser can u plz exmplain a bit more
    you find the right keywords and register a good domain
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    • Profile picture of the author CoolCaesar
      Originally Posted by flippianstar11 View Post

      coolcaeser can u plz exmplain a bit more
      you find the right keywords and register a good domain
      Yep, once you managed to do that just start building backlinks to your main page and to sub-pages..

      Be patient don't build too many backlinks at once .. use a tool like senuke and buy some cool seo packages from fiverr ..

      Don't you ever use stuff like scrapebox or amr .. it will kill your website!

      Also make sure that the content on your new site is 100% unique and of high quality.. it would be best if you write the content yourself..

      Try to find a keyword with many searches but not with a lot of competition.

      It doesn't matter if the .com is already taken .. an .org or .net would be just fine.

      Good Luck Friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    You dont get "good PR" by running SenukeX or similar software. All those tools use web2.0 properties. Where should the PR come from?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoolCaesar
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      You dont get "good PR" by running SenukeX or similar software. All those tools use web2.0 properties. Where should the PR come from?
      You don't need "good PR" to rank high in the search engines .. I recommended senuke because it can be a good start .. and there are some pretty good seo packages on fiverr .. all for like 5$

      If you want "good PR" you also need a "good budget".
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  • Profile picture of the author wrongnumber
    this i think is years old idea... the google now is looking for quality, because it is not short of quantity... and panda... did just add the right weapon to its arsenal... i have witnessed that... only the website with something useful is being listed there at the top... either its quite old, or its producing some quality write ups.... so its not that easy... i think in a very near future, they will not consider even backlinks for the PR, lets say i start writing quality content... without keeping this in my mind that i am doing this for money... and working whole heartedly towards writing... then i might get P1 listings in a week... and the listing process will be made dynamic... so sites like WIKIPEDIA... FACEBOOK... LINKEDIN will always make to the top...

    Originally Posted by Phill P View Post

    "Flipping" is where you buy something, develop or market it, and then sell it again soon afterwards for a profit. A lot of entrepreneurs do this full time and make good profit with property, or if they have good management talents with businesses.

    Does it work with URLs?

    Buy a new domain or an expired one cheap, set up a word press blog or whypark site, then use backlinking software (SEnukeX, submitteaze etc) to increase the PR.
    After a while when it has a lot of backlinks, its been suitably crawled, and google has FINALLY done a new PR update - relist the domain name and sell it for a profit.

    It may not be quick money (taking a while for a lot of back links to get crawled, and google to do PR updates) but in the mean time you can have an affiliate site turning a few $ as well.

    Does this work? Just how far do you need to take the marketing effort to see a decent return?
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