Making Money (or not) with Fiverr and 20 related sites

13 years ago

Perhaps he made his offer sound too good to be true. But 14 days isn't a long enough trial anyway. It can take months to gain traction.

I never bother Googling anybody who has a Fiverr gig. That's more work than I want to go to.

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Craig Fenton

13 years ago

Hi Wonder Cat:

Why would 14 days not be long enough for him? As everyday goes on wouldn't there be more and more ads so the competition gets worse?

What time frame do you think he should have stayed on the sites?

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fluffythewondercat

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Craig Fenton

Hi Wonder Cat:

Why would 14 days not be long enough for him? As everyday goes on wouldn't there be more and more ads so the competition gets worse?

What time frame do you think he should have stayed on the sites?

Thanks for your answer,

14 days is wildly unrealistic.

I don't think anyone knows for sure, but here is how it seems to work when you start out with Fiverr:

If it's your first gig, you're on the front page for some period of time. This is coveted real estate and your golden opportunity, so you have to make your gig compelling with an enticing headline and a video at the very least.

Once you're pushed down to page four and beyond, your sales will suffer because people get browsing fatigue. Fortunately, you chose good tags when you created this gig, right? So people can find you by searching.

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SocialMediaOwls

13 years ago

Fiverr and the clones are like anything else....it has to be promoted. One upping or "good seo" does nothing.

It's what IM is all about. You have to parade your gig in front of the world. I own a clone and have gigs set up on all clones and fiverr and a day doesn't go by where I don't get a few sales.

Of course I am promoting the ever living crap out of all I have.

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humbledmarket

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Craig Fenton

Hi Warriors:

Hope the weekend is going well.

A fellow author who tried for 2 weeks to make money with Fiverr and 20 related sites asked what I thought is a great question "What went wrong?"

I'm hoping if I tell you what they tried and their background the fine Warriors could let me know what went wrong! Thanks in advance.

For the first time the author opened 21 accounts with Fiverr and related sites and thought since he didn't have a track record with them he would be able to circumvent that 2 ways. Every post he had offered double to what the competition was (twice the articles/twice the SEO work/twice the QR Codes/etc).

He also filled out his profile so anybody could easily Google his name and see the books that he has published and all other on and off-line successes (SEO/ARTICLES).

After 14 days he did not get 1 sale on any of the sites.

Here is where I'm puzzled, wouldn't a name that can be found all over the internet with positive press, a track record, rave reviews on their books be able to build initial trust with the sites?

What went wrong? What did he do or not that the site visitors are selecting Jane or John Doe instead?

While I personally have registered on 30 of the sites, I'm glad I only posted a few gigs not wanting to go through the same frustration. I too would be a newcomer on the sites but easily researched for the books, liner notes, E-Books, marketing, etc.

Thanks as always for your help and be well,
CF

Well the problem sometimes isn't the quantity. You need to have your name found. A lot of this like with google SEO is about getting on the front page or on people searches.

How you do this is by your votes. Thumbs up and reviews on fiverr.

Also another thing is sometimes with too much people get suspicious. It's funny that way; sometime when something seems too cheap or too good people get skeptical.

I have experienced situationally when I increase my prices I get more Sales...Go Figure

It's also more profitable for me. For example when I sold an ebook at $47 it was more profitable at the time than $9. But that was a different market. So knowing who you selling to and what they epxect is also important.

It isn't so much just as doubling what your competitor offers. they want REVIEWS and Proof. Without that doubling your offer might make it just even more suspicious to browsing buyers.

What you want is social proof with reviews that way when you get social proof you can increase prices and people will still snap it up

... well for the most part

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Craig Fenton

13 years ago

Hi Benjamin:

Thanks for the reply.

If the offer doesn't stand out how does somebody with no feedback (on that site) ever get the gigs to create positive ratings?

Not having experience with the buy/sell sites to a large degree I would have thought that having an internet presence would have worked for him.

I know there have been countless times when I was being considered for a freelance position (writing/marketing) I told the client they could easily find my name with a search and it showed them my books the 5 star reviews, the liner notes (multiple) for a rock and roll Hall of Fame band, and so on.

Although I had no previous history with those clients the internet presence in their eyes put me ahead of those that sent them emails and resumes that may have looked sparkly.

It actually is disappointing because if I wanted to sell a product or service on Fiverr for example I don't have feedback on that site but if the potential buyer did a search they can see my track record.

Now it is very clear (thank you Warriors) it appears the rule not the exception on those sites is you have to be rated well specially on Fiverr/Buy A Gig, etc no matter what you may have done previously.

Have a great night,

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Robert M Gouge

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Craig Fenton

Hi Benjamin:

Thanks for the reply.

If the offer doesn't stand out how does somebody with no feedback (on that site) ever get the gigs to create positive ratings?

Now it is very clear (thank you Warriors) it appears the rule not the exception on those sites is you have to be rated well specially on Fiverr/Buy A Gig, etc no matter what you may have done previously.

Have a great night,

Welcome to the problem with Odesk, elance, freelance, and all the other freelance rating sites out there.

The select few get jobs and the majority of those select few aren't very good because their reputation is either falsely built and/or because people refuse to look at people w/o ratings.

Imagine a graphics prodigy, proficient in all platforms, with degree's out the wazoo....he creates his profiles, puts up some samples, etc.

Unfortunately, the guy who is using PLR type content and rehashing it in his Adobe software with 1000 positive reviews is going to get probably 98% of the jobs that these two compete for. Unless you have some secret bullet, the guy with better ratings (even if they are scammed) is always going to get the job before the guy w/o ratings.

This is why you see many threads popping up 'How do I break into (insert freelance site here)'. System is clearly broken.

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Craig Fenton 13 years ago

Hi Robert:

Thank you for your thoughts.

As mentioned during the thread I thought he would have done well simply because with or without feedback he had a proven track record and an internet presence to back it up.

I gave an example as well that numerous times when I was being considered for freelance work and had not done business with the client they thought it was tremendous that while on the phone I could show them proof of what I accomplished.

I don't claim to be anything close to an Oxford Road Scholar but I could not have been more off the mark with the Fiverr type sites. My mindset is if you are first starting out on a site I would never eliminate the applicant. If they show legitimate links what they have done and what they will do it is an outright shame the game is based on numbers from one URL and not the rest of the internet landscape.

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TomVa

13 years ago

Can someone put a list together of the top 20 sites out there like fiverr? Thanks

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DWolfe 13 years ago

Originally Posted by TomVa

Can someone put a list together of the top 20 sites out there like fiverr? Thanks

Use the search feature here. There is a whole thread that was posted a while back about fiverr style sites
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RajaRajan 13 years ago

Originally Posted by TomVa

Can someone put a list together of the top 20 sites out there like fiverr? Thanks

like this one? Top 25 Best Micro Jobs Sites
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Stephen Lessey

13 years ago

I just created 1 gig about 3 weeks ago and have done 4 gigs already.

All I did was just have a catchy picture and video. Then added a little personality to my page. As far as promotion I just posted it on my personal Facebook page.

Yea 4 gigs is nothing to brag about but. I can definitely say that having a video and delivering great quality helps with reviews.

If your interested check out my gig: http://fiverr.com/users/stevenles87/...-look-awesome#

Hope this helps clarify a few things

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Craig Fenton 13 years ago

Hi Stephen:

Thanks for the reply and I'm glad you are getting some results.

Hope you see a tremendous influx of business this month,
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Scott Lambency

13 years ago

There are a few talented people on fiverr who deliver a lot of value for just five bucks.

I got on that site and made a few gigs. Needless to say, I'm not there because I want a few bucks. Fiverr and these other freelance sites can be a useful place to get your name out there and build your list.

When you overdeliver on your gig, people start viewing you as an expert.. and even if they don't sign up for your list, you still make a few bucks.

It's just another way of getting paid to prospect.

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Craig Fenton 13 years ago

Hi Scott:

The author in question was over-delivering by far (offering many times double what others would do for the same fee) but the lack of prior feedback on the sites (not on the internet) were the reason for their dejection.

Thanks for sharing and have a great night.
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Scott Lambency

13 years ago

Craig,

You're right.. that is the main topic of this post.

I've seen some people offer gigs that are way more valuable than $5, and have gotten featured, while some seemingly great gigs have been burried several pages deep with no reviews.

The thing I've noticed with Fiverr, and sites like it, is they are great places to connect with people.

For example, I talked to one individual on that site who just received a featured gig. So naturally, I asked him how he got his gig featured.

Turns out, he just ended up emailing the admin with some random question, the admin reviewed his gig, then gave him the top spot for a few days.

You see, with fiverr, you can post a gig instantly. So that means there is no admin or anyone manually checking every single gig. As a result, high valued gigs get ignored while other gigs get featured.

Got a gig that really overdelivers? I suggest emailing the admin and getting some attention. If they look at your gig and see the high value, why wouldn't they feature it?

Hope this helps...

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bloggz

13 years ago

it is pretty simple to get orders from fiverr and fiverr like sites. Just market you gigs in forums, in ads, in youtube videos and also in article directories. You can promote your gig by using fiverr there are many sellers promote gigs which will be famous in one week and when your gig become popular then you got orders. You can try also other fioverr like sites to make more money like zeerk.com , tenbux.com, fiverrplus.com and many other do same method again on these sites. You can ultimately get orders.

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GameVoid

13 years ago

I find this confusing because I just opened my Fiverr account this past week and I have had great success without doing anything shady. I created my gig, made a video of myself presenting the gig and what I had to offer. I made sure my gig linked to live examples of my writing. I have had 12 orders since Thursday. I suspended my gig when I got to 5 or more outstanding. Just 20 minutes ago I finished up my last batch of 5 and un-suspended my gig and by the time I went and folded laundry and got back to my desk another order had come in.

I was open and honest in my gig and did not offer anything I wasn't prepared to deliver on. I received one order that I thought I couldn't write very well so I canceled the order and the buyer was appreciative that I didn't just try to wing it.

Without seeing the actual gig your friend posted it is hard to tell what they might have done wrong. Perhaps like others have said your friend was making offers that sounded too good to be true. If I saw someone offering to write 3 or 4 articles for $5.00 I would pass on that.

Perhaps your friend was offering writing services but his actual gig was rife with spelling errors. Perhaps he just sounded arrogant or tough to work with. It is hard to say without seeing his actual gig.

Or maybe I just got damn lucky.

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Craig Fenton 13 years ago

Hi Game Void:

It's great that you have seen results and I hop you make a million.

A plethora of people such as the author I mentioned that was the reason for this thread had zero results (even after posting on multiple sites).

He had offered more value for each gig than the competition to circumvent not having feedback.

I still stand behind my original thoughts that even without having a track record on the sites his profile clearly stated his background and a simple Google search would show his accomplishments.

I totally understand his frustration because if I posted gigs even without feedback on the sites in question having written books that are on Amazon, lectured, being a professional writer, former radio personality, there is a verifiable body of work.

Have a great day and continued success.

All the best,
CF
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bukriv

13 years ago

I set up my first Fiverr gig just about a week ago and so far I got a couple of orders. I'm not sure if I'm doing well or not, but I believe you really need to have good tags for visibility.

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Dzierba

13 years ago

Posting one gig on an account that has been established and already has a reputation will probably make more money than ten gigs posted on ten fresh accounts. You need to get your orders booming from the start, and people need to know that you are a trustworthy person before they will buy your gig (usually).

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fluffythewondercat 13 years ago

Craig,

Let me see if I can put it another way.

Fiverr is very much about a fresh start. It doesn't matter who you were; all that matters is you do good work. Anonymity is key. Fiverr management doesn't want people tracking each other in the real world. Some gigs have been taken down because they seemed to be encouraging people to make contact outside the Fiverr messaging system.

Once you've got a gig or four under your belt and you're established as a good provider, people will start posting links to your finished work in your feedback. You may also be reviewed on my Best of Fiverr blog, where quite often we post work product.

This isn't like academia, where you can state your degrees, your tenure and the papers you've written and people assume you are competent. You have to prove yourself anew with each gig. Gradually it gets easier as you build a body of work.

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- Craig Fenton 13 years ago
  
  Hi Fluffy:
  
  Thanks for giving such articulate thoughts.
  
  As mentioned I have no advantage to take Fiverr's side or the author because I have no allegiance to either.
  
  Being impartial I 10000000000000000 times can see the author's frustration. In a profile telling your accomplishments (especially when they can be backed up) would not be the same thing as giving out a phone number or a personal email address to bypass the system.
  
  I stay with my original point of contention that if I were to post on Fiverr or any of the related sites it shouldn't be a disadvantage (which it clearly is) that I would join June 12, 2011 and somebody signed up the first day.
  
  If we are talking about myself (not the other author) books on Amazon, lectures around the country, consulting, marketing plans, E-Books, former radio personality could be verified with a simple use of a search engine.
  
  In business as long as it is legal and ethical you should be able to be proud and promote your track record.
  
  I hope you have continued success, you are exceptionally bright and deserve great things!
  
  All the best,
  CF
  
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