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WSO's

by Henri Lind
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1 question about it. Do i have to be a war room member to post wso's?
And how can it be done to increase the price for every number of people buying?

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author harryhumph
    Do i have to be a war room member to post wso's?

    Yes You Do

    And how can it be done to increase the price for every number of people buying?

    You do that with WSOpro, it costs 19 bucks. Check it out here.. WarriorPlus
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  • Profile picture of the author CheapTrafficDude
    Yes, you have to be a war room member to post WSO's (last I knew) and there is also a cost to posting a WSO (Last I knew). Then you should also look at getting WSO Pro (Costs about $19).

    Either way, the War Room membership is well worth it even if you don't intend on posting WSO's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    I'm thinking to create my first product and i'm thinking should i post a wso.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Sides
    Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

    1 question about it. Do i have to be a war room member to post wso's?
    And how can it be done to increase the price for every number of people buying?

    Thanks
    Since you already have the answers you seek just wanted to give ya heads up and let you know that WSO's are a great way to test a new product. If you lack a reputation here you may also considering teaming with someone who is respected before launching.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

    1 question about it. Do i have to be a war room member to post wso's?
    Yes.

    And how can it be done to increase the price for every number of people buying?
    This is called a "dime sale." Traditionally, the price starts at ten cents and goes up ten more cents every time someone buys it. Today, the price starts at X and goes up by Y every time Z people buy it. The old system was X = $0.10, Y = $0.10, Z = 1. Today, it's more likely X = $7, Y = $1, Z = 5.

    When you start a WSO, your "buy" button is just a link to your payment processor. This may be a hosted service you pay for, like WSO Pro or E-Junkie, or a script on your own web server like Rapid Action Profits or Digital Access Pass.

    You will need to consult the documentation of your specific service/script - or contact technical support - to find out whether it supports dime sales and how to set them up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Is that wsopro 1 time payment or i have to pay for every wso?

    And i dont know if you can consider it as product, but maybe e-book. Can i still sell them there? I was thinking that starting price is 1$ and going up to 7$. I have 3 e-book ideas, but im really hesitating to pay 100$ for it and making those e-books if they wouldnt bring that money back.

    Any suggestion? Something?
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

      Is that wsopro 1 time payment or i have to pay for every wso?
      It's per WSO. You pay $37 for the War Room once, then $40 for each WSO thread, and $19 for each thread you connect to WSO Pro.

      And i dont know if you can consider it as product, but maybe e-book. Can i still sell them there?
      Yes. Ebooks are a perfectly good product. You will be able to sell your products at a higher price point if they include video, though.

      I was thinking that starting price is 1$ and going up to 7$.
      Assuming it goes up $1 every five sales, at $96 for the first WSO thread using WSO Pro, you'd need to sell 28 of these to turn a profit... and that wouldn't even get the book to the full $7 price. If you are writing on a topic Warriors like, it would be pretty hard not to sell that many.

      I have 3 e-book ideas, but im really hesitating to pay 100$ for it and making those e-books if they wouldnt bring that money back.
      Do your research. Pay the $4 monthly fee to be a WSO Pro affiliate, and look at available affiliate offers to find products like yours which are selling through WSO Pro - because if there are already products like yours on WSO Pro, and they've sold well, your product will probably also sell well.

      That's the closest you get to a guarantee in this business, and honestly, I've never run a WSO that didn't pull in well over $100 - even when it was a subject nobody cares about. I've run more than one crappy WSO that didn't make much over $100, but $100 isn't that high of a bar to clear.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

    1 question about it. Do i have to be a war room member to post wso's?
    And how can it be done to increase the price for every number of people buying?

    Thanks
    Here is a link where you can buy the WSO Pro license for 1 penny and only when you start making sales will the rest of the fee come out of your profits. It's a great way for beginners to get started.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...anagement.html
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    • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
      Cheers Will,

      Again learned something new from you Although the 19 bucks ain't much this can surely help other with their first WSO

      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Here is a link where you can buy the WSO Pro license for 1 penny and only when you start making sales will the rest of the fee come out of your profits. It's a great way for beginners to get started.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...anagement.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Thank you all for that, i research more and then try to make those e-books.

    Henri
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    I have another problem regarding to that. Let's say i have done 1 of this e-books.
    But then i have problem writing that salesletter for wso...I don't know how to write and design it so good like all the other wso's are.

    Any tips?

    Henri
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

      But then i have problem writing that salesletter for wso...I don't know how to write and design it so good like all the other wso's are.
      Don't worry overly about making it look good. Just use some large red headlines centred on the page to hit the major points and lead the reader through stuff. You basically do this:

      Do You Hate Stuff That Sucks?

      Boy, I sure do. Stuff used to suck for me, but then I figured out how to make stuff not suck and I wrote it all down in this WSO.

      You Can Do It Too

      All you have to do is buy my WSO and you can do the exact same thing that I did when stuff sucked, and boy howdy let me tell you it sure did make stuff not suck.

      (Buy Now Button)

      PS - I might stop selling this at any time so you'd better buy it right now or you will not have my guidance and lessons on how to make stuff not suck and then stuff will suck forever.
      Obviously, copywriting is a complicated discipline, and many people study it for years. But start with that outline and just gussy it up to be specific about the problem, your solution, and how anyone can do it.

      Remember, you're not promising anyone can solve the problem, you're promising anyone can do what you did to solve it. Like let's say the problem is that you want to win the Westminster dog show, and you solved it by raising a poodle. You can't promise everyone "how to win the Westminster dog show," but you can promise them "how to raise a poodle."
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Can i sell something that isn't how-to e-book, it's like an e-book with lot of info.
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    • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
      Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

      Can i sell something that isn't how-to e-book, it's like an e-book with lot of info.
      vapsjee, if you have an eBook with a lot of information about IM you are probably going to do well. This is the IM niche so be sure that your information is about IM or something related. A book about - dog training - would not do any good in my eyes, but information on - how to market dog training - does.

      However, think of these questions first:

      What makes my information product better than others?
      Am I adding real new valuable information into the WSO pool?
      Am I going to hand out review copies to get the sales going?
      How am I going to write up the salesletter.
      Should I set it up as a free offer to generate a list first?

      Hope this points you in the right direction.

      Steven
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      • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
        However, think of these questions first:

        1. What makes my information product better than others?
        2. Am I adding real new valuable information into the WSO pool?
        3. Am I going to hand out review copies to get the sales going?
        4. How am I going to write up the salesletter.
        5. Should I set it up as a free offer to generate a list first?

        Hope this points you in the right direction.

        Steven
        1. Do it have to be better than others? I think it will be good. I'm sceptical as it's my first product. It's mostly for newbies, but maybe even expert IM'ers can learn something from it.

        2. Hmm... It's two-sided. Yes and no. I don't remember seeing some other similar wso's or products.

        3. I'm setting the price for 1$, do i have to give review copies for that price? If you suggest it, then yes i would.

        4. I'm going to think something up. I'm not good at this but i need to learn and try.

        5. I'm thinking it, but maybe not with this one. Don't know

        Henri
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    You can sell anything, tons of people are willing to buy WSO. I've been watching weeks the second most-visited section is WSO.

    This is a valuable information.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Henri,

    You don't have to be better, as the WSO subjects vary a lot. But be the best on your subject and if you manage to set yourself a part from the rest, hence being different then you probably have a winner in your hands.

    If you didn’t see any similar in the WSO section then all what is left to inform the public in such a fashion that your product is special and new. This can be done with copywriting. I believe you can hire some copywriters here on the forum as well. It will cost you some additional bucks, but I think it will be worth every dime you will invest.

    Write up your own copy to and compare it with the professional copy. This way you will discover errors in your own copy which you will overcome next time while writing your very own copy.

    Hand over some free copies prior to the launch, give them to warriors and ask for an honest review. I believe that there will be a whole section dedicated to this any time soon, at least that is what got told by a mod.

    Then on your launch price the wso low and make the price go higher while people buy. This could gain you even more reviews on a fast pace hence giving you more social proof.

    If you can set up a free WSO, then do it. Maybe something related to the product you are about to sell? This way your list is sort of fine-tuned in that niche, this will eventually bring you some more dough.

    Anyway, be sure to give real value. Don’t keep your mind on the money you could possibly earn, but keep it on how you can be of value to your fellow marketer. The funny thing is that when you focus on giving value, you will earn more bucks. Call it karma, reciprocity etc.

    Please take this sample of my latest WSO
    WSOScience - Sample.pdf

    I hope it will guide you on the way.

    Steven.

    PS. @mods If the given link in any case violates the forum rules then please remove the link. The document is a sample of my latest WSO with 1 link in it to the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author simondoddmarketing
    WOW! Some really good information in here! Thanks for all the input guys.

    I would definitely recommend using WSO Pro as well, it not only means affiliates can promote your WSO but you can also promote other peoples to your list!

    Win Win or as Charlie Sheen would say Bi-Winning
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Charlie sheen is just plain epic. He did some power marketing and now he is out. But I don't think he is winning any longer, didn't heard of charlie for qutie some time now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Another question:
    After joining wsopro and posting wso, can i mail other top wso sellers to become an affiliate of mine and promote my product to their list?
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

      Another question:
      After joining wsopro and posting wso, can i mail other top wso sellers to become an affiliate of mine and promote my product to their list?
      You can contact them via PM on this forum however just remember that contacting someone out of the blue like that is not usually going to work too well for you. They have a ton of products they can promote so unless you give them some fantastic reason to promote yours, why would they.

      Asking someone to promote your product the first time you contact them is not going to get your relationship off to a BANG.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    How can i make relationships with them?
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by vapsjee View Post

      How can i make relationships with them?
      There must be a lot of ways... for me the best worked helping people (for free, of course) with their problems, answering their questions. In other words: give first, before you ask for something

      The above method works online and offline, as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author simondoddmarketing
    Love it WillR!

    At least wine and dine them before ******* them

    PS I still need to send my list to your WSO! Don't worry it's on my must do list so I won't forget you mate
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  • Profile picture of the author mavericx
    Definitely check out warriorplus; I haven't used it (as I have yet to do my first WSO), but from what research I have done, it seems like a no-brainer if you are going to do a WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    Another question: What about affiliate links in WSO's? Add it like recommendations or something? Or promoting warrior service providers?
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