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Facebook fan page question (hey, I'm a slow learner)...

by TimothyW
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Ok, my primary "problem" with facebook is controlling its "tentacles."

It doesn't seem to let me be different things to different people.
The privacy issue cuts both ways. It's great for marketing + getting things to go viral, etc. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing to hide. But it's kinda hard to be a super-super guru on a topic AND have things like how my neighbor's kid's dance recital went, show up on my page.

So, I thought I'd solve the problem by LOGGING OUT of fb, then creating fb fan pages unter different names for different purposes. Then I find out that's against tos.

Then I hear that it's ok to LOG IN to my "main" fb account, then create many different fb fan pages (all "under" my main "real" account).

A) doesn't that violate tos (too)?

B) doesn't that result in having all the fan pages I create all LINKED in some way to my "real" main account/profile?

So, my overall main question is, how do I create many DIFFERENT fan pages + NOT have them all linked to each other in some way (fb's "tentacles"), and NOT have them all linked to my main "real" fb account/profile?

Please advise.

Thanks!

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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Lots of my FB accounts have been getting shut down for the same reason.

    Basically, you have to make sure Facebook can't follow your fingerprints if you want separate accounts. What I mean by that is that facebook can easily track you by IP, client (IE, Firefox, your plugins, etc), and Flash cookies. Google does a very similar thing when they're trying to catch affiliates with multiple accounts.

    If I need multiple accounts like this, I'll run them in VMWare connected through my server/s via proxies. That'd be the easiest way to get through. Pretty sure they track all the public proxies like StrongVPN and what not but might be okay.

    But, you know, you could just make those Pages and no one has to see you're the admin of the page. Pretty sure there is an option for that in Privacy settings.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    I have quite a few fan pages and they aren't linked to my main account or people can't see what fan pages I've created... not sure where you're seeing this.
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    • Profile picture of the author derekpierce
      warrior600 is right. If you create different fan pages, they will not know you have these other pages unless you link to them

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      • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
        Originally Posted by derekpierce View Post

        warrior600 is right. If you create different fan pages, they will not know you have these other pages unless you link to them

        derek pierce
        If you create multiple fan pages under your one main, "real" fb account, and they are not linked to that main account, are they linked to EACH OTHER?
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        • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
          Originally Posted by TimothyW View Post

          If you create multiple fan pages under your one main, "real" fb account, and they are not linked to that main account, are they linked to EACH OTHER?
          Hi Timothy,

          I understand you. All the fan pages you create while logged in to that personal account you've come to know as your own (we'll call it your MAIN acct) ARE linked to your main account in a way that FACEBOOK can see. However, as most here have been trying to get across, that connection can be hidden from your fan page visitors.

          So, you can create (as far as I know) UNLIMITED pages from your MAIN account and not one of them has to show any kind of connection to your personal identity if you don't want them to. But for FACEBOOK'S concerns, they want to know that YOU are the author of all those pages. So they want them created from your one allowed personal account so that THEY can see the CONNECTION on their end. The confusion might have been in using the term "LINKED" rather than "ADMINISTRATIVELY CONNECTED" because the former makes people think of a "hyperlink"

          In any case, I was redundant on purpose, wanted to make sure it was very clear. And here it is again in bullet point form:
          1. Facebook's rules are that you only have 1 account;
          2. Therefore, all of your (fan) pages should be created while logged in to your one account;
          3. Facebook will then see your pages as connected (linked) to your one account;
          4. You can prevent visitors to all your pages from seeing any personally identifying information about you.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPA Andrew
    You ARE allowed to create multiple Fanpages. Just make sure they comply with there T.O.S

    A good way is having a partner involved. Therefore you can have multiple admins on one fan page. You can also create different pages with different content and market them.

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    • Profile picture of the author cevin
      Originally Posted by AndrewZapp View Post

      You ARE allowed to create multiple Fanpages. Just make sure they comply with there T.O.S

      A good way is having a partner involved. Therefore you can have multiple admins on one fan page. You can also create different pages with different content and market them.
      What if the rules change in the future?
      Just like what happened to Groups. Many have been archieved!
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  • Profile picture of the author CPA Andrew
    Also, you should note that creating multiple accounts is prohibited. So stick to having one account with a couple admins on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    Let's put it this way, if fb somehow INSISTS on NOT letting people be different things to different people (aka: FORCING each user to have his/her ENTIRE LIFE be transparent to all), then fb will not stay viable.

    EVERYONE NEEDS to be different things to different people. NO ONE can be totally transparent + get anything accomplished. That's just human nature -- and ultimately, anything that attempts to change or bend that truism, will fail.

    People can APPROACH being transparent (+ it's a nice IDEA), but NO ONE can truly REACH total transparency. I'm sure Halle Berry picks her nose -- but we really don't need to SEE that, do we?
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    They shouldn't be linked together. I have over 40 fan pages and when someone is on one of my fanpages, nowhere can they see my other 39 fan pages...
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    cool. thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Internet_Corporation
    Only admins will see the 'admins' section on the fanpage so there is no way for the average visitor to see who is the admin on the fanpage.
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  • Profile picture of the author skwish
    ok i'm confused. i don't get it... but i'm about to make a fan page myself... so i would like to know, straight out - can people on my personal facebook (friends, family) see that i have created a page? i don't want to mix the two!!
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    • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
      Originally Posted by skwish View Post

      ok i'm confused. i don't get it... but i'm about to make a fan page myself... so i would like to know, straight out - can people on my personal facebook (friends, family) see that i have created a page? i don't want to mix the two!!
      Nope. Not unless you tell them. Hey, listen, how about you go test it out with something silly like KOI RECIPES and see how it works...
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      • Profile picture of the author skwish
        Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

        Nope. Not unless you tell them. Hey, listen, how about you go test it out with something silly like KOI RECIPES and see how it works...
        huh?? what does that mean?
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        • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
          Originally Posted by skwish View Post

          huh?? what does that mean?
          Go play with it. Create a fan page about a random topic so you can see what it's like, including privacy options. By picking a random, neutral topic, with which to experiment, it wont matter if make a mistake and people accidentally see your page...
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          • Profile picture of the author skwish
            Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

            Go play with it. Create a fan page about a random topic so you can see what it's like, including privacy options. By picking a random, neutral topic, with which to experiment, it wont matter if make a mistake and people accidentally see your page...
            ahh.. ok! lol... thanks. i wasn't entirely sure what that was supposed to mean, i always think things mean something else. hard to tell on the internet
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        • Profile picture of the author marknel
          You can check out this link on creating and maintaining multiple FB accounts.
          Facebook Help Center | Facebook
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  • Profile picture of the author MrBusiness
    Create a new account for every page you want to create.

    Facebook doesn't know if its you with several accounts, or several people. For all they know, the accounts you create could all be from people using a library computer to sign up.

    Create no more than 3 pages per account (if you are creating many pages) or 1 page per account (if you are only creating a few)

    If your account gets banned and you have multiple pages on that account, where the page only has that account as the admin too.. you will lose the pages
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    • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
      Originally Posted by MrBusiness View Post

      Create a new account for every page you want to create.

      Facebook doesn't know if its you with several accounts, or several people. For all they know, the accounts you create could all be from people using a library computer to sign up.
      You're absolutely sure of that? You don't think they might, at least, flag the account for closer review? I mean, all of a sudden, there's a bunch of accounts creating fan pages from the same computer every single time and all within minutes of each other as you logon and logoff to your other accounts? If it was a library, wouldn't those accounts sometimes be on a different computer ID in the "library"? Cookie flags, IPs the same, all within minutes apart... I don't know, man, they've got billions of dollars and have a good reason for doing things the way they do.

      Originally Posted by MrBusiness View Post

      Create no more than 3 pages per account (if you are creating many pages) or 1 page per account (if you are only creating a few)

      If your account gets banned and you have multiple pages on that account, where the page only has that account as the admin too.. you will lose the pages
      Well, then you should probably advise people to not even use their main personal account so they don't risk losing that, period. They still could but it'll be easier for FB to show mercy to the personal account if its standing alone than it will if it's part of the multi-business account, multi page network.

      Either way you go, there's a risk... that's business. I think there are ways to minimize risk but your multi account method, I believe, actually increases risk. As if we can all outwit Facebook?

      Best wishes,
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by MrBusiness View Post

      Create a new account for every page you want to create.

      Facebook doesn't know if its you with several accounts, or several people. For all they know, the accounts you create could all be from people using a library computer to sign up.

      Create no more than 3 pages per account (if you are creating many pages) or 1 page per account (if you are only creating a few)

      If your account gets banned and you have multiple pages on that account, where the page only has that account as the admin too.. you will lose the pages
      This is bad advice, in my opinion, and according to Facebook...

      Statement of Rights and Responsibilities | Facebook

      You will not create more than one personal profile.
      I have 10 pages connected to my personal account, some I've created and some I'm just an admin of them.

      If you're playing by Facebook's rules (their site, so they get to make the rules), then you won't have a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Internet_Corporation
    As long as your fanpages are not 'owned' by same person there should not be a problem.

    So the personal accounts should belong to a real person.

    If you think about the average household with say 2 kids and 2 adults they could have 4 different accounts all logging in at different times from one PC so Facebook aren't going to penalize you just because they see same IP logging into different accounts.
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    • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      As long as your fanpages are not 'owned' by same person there should not be a problem.

      So the personal accounts should belong to a real person.

      If you think about the average household with say 2 kids and 2 adults they could have 4 different accounts all logging in at different times from one PC so Facebook aren't going to penalize you just because they see same IP logging into different accounts.
      With all due respect, peoples' livelihoods are at stake so we really have to think things through. If 2 kids and 2 adults are logging on then there would be 4 personal accounts with information about 4 different people with 4 somewhat different sets of friends and background information.

      Even if you could create 4 fake profiles, do you really want (or need) to go to such lengths, try to make fake accounts seem real, while actually INCREASING the risk to your pages? Do you really think Facebook is that stupid? Maybe, logistically, they can't get everybody all in one sweep but, of what value is it to build a flourishing business and always have to be looking over your shoulder?
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      As long as your fanpages are not 'owned' by same person there should not be a problem.

      So the personal accounts should belong to a real person.

      If you think about the average household with say 2 kids and 2 adults they could have 4 different accounts all logging in at different times from one PC so Facebook aren't going to penalize you just because they see same IP logging into different accounts.
      1 personal account per real person, that's the rules. Sorry.

      As long as you're not doing anything against Facebook's TOS then you have nothing to worry about having 10 pages on the same personal account anyway, right?
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