How many hops should I be getting?

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tjc348

Right now my website is getting anywhere between 20-30 visitors a day. I'm getting between I am sometimes not even getting 1 hop a day. Some days I will get 1 hop, others I will get 2-3 and sometimes I get none.

I've never made any money online all up until this past week and it's from adsense. I've made only about $1.50 in the past five days. I am happy to see atleast some money from all of my efforts, and I understand that it is a start, but I would like to see more hops for my CB product.

Could I get some tips on how to increase my hops? Of course I would like to make sales but first I need to get people to the sales page before that happens.

Each day I am building backlinks, and getting more traffic each week, but why aren't I getting any hops?

You can check out my website c i c h l i d f i s h . c o m (without spaces).

Any advice or tips on where I should place my links would be great.

What is a normal CTR for a website?

You need more Traffic. My site gets 150 Visits a Day , and only gets 3-5 Hops per day. You'll make you sale some when.

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tjc348

13 years ago

Thanks, that is what I am working on right now. Building backlinks and getting more traffic, but I still feel as if I should be getting more hops, but maybe not. I'm still learning all the basics of this stuff.

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xxdksxx

13 years ago

I would say start working on traffic a bit more and then once you have that going to about 200 views a day start testing and changing the layout of your links or ads.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tjc348

I would like to see more hops for my CB product.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've just spent a couple of minutes on your site and can't find a hoplink to click on.

I can see Amazon and AdSense links (and wouldn't use any of them at all, on any Clickbank affiliate site of my own, but that's personal opinion).

It's a nice design of site (expecially the header pics, which are obviously great for your niche), but I'm finding that small white text pretty difficult to read against the light blue background; it requires some effort, which isnt a great sign.

Originally Posted by tjc348

Could I get some tips on how to increase my hops?

You need whatever you want people to click on to be PROMINENT.

If this were my site (and I stress that, because I know some people will tell you the opposite), I would simplify, streamline, get rid of the AdSense and at least some of the Amazon links, and try somehow to "lead the visitor to the Clickbank link" - wherever it is ...

You also seem not to have a prominent opt-in on the front page?

Making steady money from Clickbank products from this sort of site is about two main things:-

(i) Effective pre-selling to targeted traffic, and ...

(ii) Building a list and communicating effectively with the people who opt-in.

These aren't optional: you really do need to do both of them.

I think, with this site, we might add: (iii) Not giving people other things to click on.

Originally Posted by tjc348

What is a normal CTR for a website?

It depends on too many factors to have any meaningful answer. And is almost impossible to quantify when you have three different types of links for people to click (and I say that as someone who hasn't yet found the link you're asking about).

Bottom line, here: in my opinion you need to simplify the site a lot, make the text more legible and have a prominently incentivised opt-in on the landing-page (and maybe on every page). As the site is now, you're neither telling nor showing people what to do, but still wondering why they're not doing it.

If I were you, in complete disagreement with the opinions above, I would actually not (at the moment) be trying to build the traffic, as I don't think that will help you to sell the Clickbank product(s)(?). I think you need at least to start attending to the site first.

Please excuse my outspoken style of commenting: I mean no impolitness and I do think the site has potential.

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tjc348 13 years ago

I'm sorry, but I made a mistake . My website has a - in between cichlid and fish. Sorry :rolleyes:
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  Originally Posted by tjc348
  
  I'm sorry, but I made a mistake . My website has a - in between cichlid and fish. Sorry :rolleyes:
  
  Oooh, good ... that's a much better-looking and more readable site than the unhyphenated version!
  
  Still very nice pictures.
  
  So, this time, I did find a hoplink (but after looking for it for a moment or two!), and it isn't masked (which you might want to attend to, and not by using a "url-shortening service"!).
  
  My comments above about AdSense and an opt-in (and about not trying to increase the traffic until you're building a list, which must surely be the priority, here?) remain unchanged ...
  
  Look at your site objectively for a moment: you can see, can't you, that it's 100 times easier for people to click on the AdSense than on the hoplink?
  
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MatthewNeer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I've just spent a couple of minutes on your site and can't find a hoplink to click on.

Traffic is the name of the game my friend.

If you're getting a few hundred hops per day, you'll be making around $100 bucks a day, give or take a few hops/sales depending on how targeted your traffic is and what your promoting.

@Alexa Smith got you covered though.

@tjc348 I took a look at your site too and I can't find your hop link (stopped looking) which means you need to add in some banners or make a BIG and BOLD right up at top with a call to action saying CLICK HERE.

Know what I mean?

Just keep HUSTLIN' man! You'll get there.
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tjc348

13 years ago

Thanks for the good advice guys.

So would you recommend completely eliminating adsense from my blog? Or should I just put them in a less noticable place?

I have a banner for my CB product, and it says click here to order cichlid fish secrets(e-book). Should I place this at the top of my homepage since it is very noticable and eye catching?

I have been trying to figure out the proper way to incorporate an opt-in list, but haven't yet implemented it. Sooner than later I will be doing this.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tjc348

So would you recommend completely eliminating adsense from my blog?

It's one of those things you have to test for yourself.

I won't have it on my pages (of similar sites), but that doesn't necessarily make it wrong for you.

For myself, I can't see the point in trying to earn pennies by giving people a way to leave my sites rather than staying there. But my sites are designed to get people to (i) opt in, and/or (ii) click on my masked hoplinks.

Originally Posted by tjc348

I have a banner for my CB product, and it says click here to order cichlid fish secrets(e-book). Should I place this at the top of my homepage since it is very noticable and eye catching?

All of these questions are a little bit "acadmic" until you have a prominently incentivised opt-in which is the "banana" on the page. (If you know the Seth Godin thing about "where's the banana"?).

Originally Posted by tjc348

I have been trying to figure out the proper way to incorporate an opt-in list, but haven't yet implemented it. Sooner than later I will be doing this.

The sooner the better: it will be difficult indeed to make many sales without it. In my opinion.

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tjc348

13 years ago

What exactly do you mean by "masked hoplinks". Eliminating "cichlid fish secrets" on every link and replacing it with something else? Or do you mean masking my hoplink when you run the mouse over the link?

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tjc348

What exactly do you mean by "masked hoplinks".

Instead of sending your traffic to "123456789qwerty.hop.clickbank.net" you could send it to something like cichlid-fish.info, so that the hoplink doesn't show at all. You can buy that (or some very similar .info domain-name) for $1 at GoDaddy and just redirect it, with masking, to 123456789qwerty.hop.clickbank.net.

Doing so has several advantages.

It looks better and more professional and takes away a link that some people may not want to click on. And it means that in future, if a new product comes along instead, which you'd prefer to promote, all you'll need to do is change the redirection at the registrar's site instead of finding every hoplink you've ever used and changing them all by hand.

(There are several other ways of doing this, too; but this is a "clean, simple, safe" one which requires no programming knowledge. Just don't use a site like "bit.ly" or "goo.gl" or "tinyurl" to do an equivalent masking/forwarding thing: that would arguably be even worse than what you're doing now ).
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tjc348

13 years ago

Okay, I totally understand how to do that. Lol I don't know why that didn't register.

Before I actually knew anything about affiliate marketing, I would write articles and send them to ezine and put my hoplink in the resource box. I used a domain name that I purchased from godaddy and forwarded it to my hoplink.

What is an ideal opt-in list? What is the reason for collecting their name and email (in the potential customer's standpoint). Am I offering them something? If you understand what I mean by this.

I am trying to get an opt-in list on my site by the end of today. I just don't know how it works exactly.

I'll do some research on opt-in form and see if I can figure it out.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tjc348

Before I actually knew anything about affiliate marketing, I would write articles and send them to ezine and put my hoplink in the resource box. I used a domain name that I purchased from godaddy and forwarded it to my hoplink.

Ah, yes ... to get round EZA's "no direct linking" rule? I'm with you. Same thing as that.

Originally Posted by tjc348

What is an ideal opt-in list? What is the reason for collecting their name and email (in the potential customer's standpoint). Am I offering them something? If you understand what I mean by this.

Yes, you offer them (something like) a "free report" on Cichlid fish (whatever they are!). And you "sell" them the "free report" on the home page of your site, offering them something of value in exchange for their email address. (It can be a small free report, and it can contain links to your site and to the masked hoplink, as well).

In exchange for this, they give you their email address and this enables you to send them some email about cichlid fish, aquariums ("aquaria"?), underwater basket-weaving and whatever else they're interested in, interspersed by occasional messages promoting the Clickbank product. It also enables you to sell them other things in future.

Originally Posted by tjc348

I am trying to get an opt-in list on my site by the end of today. I just don't know how it works exactly.

If you use a company like Aweber as your autoresponder (recommended: cost $1 for the first month and $19 per month thereafter), you can automate the whole thing. You set up the "email series" and they go out automatically at set intervals, according to the day on which people opted in. Have a good look at this process - don't rush it to get it done today, because choosing the right autoresponder is really important: getting it wrong is one of those very few things in internet marketing from which it can be messy and complicated to recover. (Hint: don't use a "free autoresponder").

Autoresponder companies provide you with the opt in form, for your site.

You don't want to have to send the emails out "by hand". As your list grows, that would soon become impossibly difficult and time-consuming. you have to have it automated. Have a read through some of the many threads on "autoresponders" and "email marketing".

"It's a process", as they say.

Building a list is probably the single most important thing you can do, at this stage, but don't rush it for the sake of a day or two without learning all about it first.

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JamesGw

13 years ago

It depends on how you advertise your affiliate link on your site. I can get anywhere from a 15-30% ctr if I have it in the center and at the top. If it's just a text link on a side bar, it's closer to a 1-2% CTR.

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tjc348

13 years ago

I placed my affiliate product banner at the top of my site and made my links a larger font in the body and I've already got 4 hops today!

That's the most I've gotten in one day so far.

Hopefully my hardwork will pay off and I can soon get 50 hops a day

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