Is an Autoresponder really worth it for a noob?

by joel1031 23 replies
Granted my first month for Aweber was only $1, but after that it's every $20. I have exactly 1 subscriber right now, so I'm not seeing the worth in this until I can get more traffic and conversions.

Is my line of thinking off? I just don't see the benefit for the cost right now I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author TEC
    The bigger you make that list in your autoresponder the more sales your going to make. I would focus on an opt-in page to build that list in your Aweber account and get as many people as you can into it.

    The opt-in page you can make is easy and you can give something away for free so that they enter their email address, then they go into your autoresponder The more people you get in your Aweber account then you can start converting more sales

    I would keep the autoresponder, to me it's your best friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by joel1031 View Post

    Is my line of thinking off?
    Well ... not really ... but if you suddenly get 5 more subscribers tomorrow, you might wish you'd joined Aweber already, because you're unlikely to be able to add them to an Aweber list, once you eventually do.

    However, I do think you're right to start without one rather than to start with the classic mistake of "trying a free one first" :rolleyes: , for all the reasons mentioned here.

    At some point, you perhaps need to pay that initial $1 to Aweber, get started with an opt-in, and produce a mass of traffic to your site during the first month you're using their service. A good incentive, there.
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    i miss good old fashioned hand types responses, that autorespond hacks
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  • Profile picture of the author apoorv.parijat
    It depends on which way you're headed. If your marketing involves creating and engaging e-mail lists, get it.

    I got aWeber a few months ago and it was totally worth it for me. At that point, I was playing with the thought and then decided to jump the gun. It has been great, for me.

    If you know how to funnel traffic and how to make money off it, adding e-mail marketing may do wonders for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Liam Murray
    Just remember the better you can build your relationship with your list the more $$ at the end of the day.

    It's not about the numbers on the list it's all about the relationship. I would recommend using Aweber as you have the flexablity of autoresponder.. You can set message's to be sent after a certain amount of days etc.. There again you are building your relationship with your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author joel1031
    Thanks for your opinions. I'm giving Aweber a shot for the first month. If I don't see more subs by the time it's up I'll likely cancel until I'm driving more traffic to my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author KevinW
      I think you can drop Aweber.

      Here are some options:

      1. Check out MailChimp - It will cost you much less as you build your list.
      2. Icontact - I like them much better than Aweber. Why? You can import your list and you do NOT have to send a confirmation email when importing.

      How are you doing your list building? On your blog only?

      Do you have any squeeze pages?

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by KevinW View Post

        Check out MailChimp
        And don't forget to read their terms of service, which prohibit affiliate marketing (and many other things!), which is one of the reasons so many Warriors have lost their lists there.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinW
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    No optin on the blog? The "click here" is hidden. Very hard to find. I was looking for your optin and it took me a while.

    I would fix this fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author joel1031
      Originally Posted by KevinW View Post

      Joel Williams

      No optin on the blog? The "click here" is hidden. Very hard to find. I was looking for your optin and it took me a while.

      I would fix this fast.
      Hmmm, thanks, will look at that when I get home.

      Also I found out the one person who signed up just unsubscribed! What a bummer!
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  • Profile picture of the author omk
    Sure, it's worth it, but you have to know how to use it. If you don't then I guess not.
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  • Profile picture of the author pmbrent
    If you don't have an autoresponder every email you send out you will have to do it manually. You will also need separate software to manage your database. With an autoresponder all of this is managed for you and the other members of your list are kept confidential. I would keep Aweber.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    If you're not in the Im niche, then I suggest you go with Mailchimp. Your first 2000 subscribers are free and you're entitled to send about 12000 emails monthly with them.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by Dann Vicker View Post

      If you're not in the Im niche, then I suggest you go with Mailchimp. Your first 2000 subscribers are free and you're entitled to send about 12000 emails monthly with them.

      Dann Vicker
      Before you go with Mailchimp, read their terms. Whether you're in the IM niche or not, they don't allow Affiliate Marketing.

      There are a number of other banned types of lists, so go check it out first.
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    It's according to what you're doing. If you're experimenting with different niches and ways of doing IM, then maybe not. But if you're generally in the same niche, then you'll want to stay with AWeber and create a large list. List members are kind of like girlfriends, though. If you don't pay attention to them, they'll start dating someone else. What I'm saying is a list is not a freebie. You have to put continued work into a list to make it pay.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Lambency
    If you're serious about building your business online, I suggest purchasing a whole year of autoresponder service at once.

    If you're worried about cost, choose GetResponse. They are about $10/mo or $100/yr, which averages to a little over $8/mo.

    You might start out slow, but at least you won't have to worry about monthly payments, or if it's really worth it yet... keep capturing leads. You'll get better at it with practice.

    An autoresponder is the backbone of your entire business. You may change your website from time to time, even a few traffic generating strategies along the way, but keep your list. It's where your money is.

    Just grow and build.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
    Originally Posted by joel1031 View Post

    Granted my first month for Aweber was only $1, but after that it's every $20. I have exactly 1 subscriber right now, so I'm not seeing the worth in this until I can get more traffic and conversions.

    Is my line of thinking off? I just don't see the benefit for the cost right now I guess.
    Aweber isn't the whole world.

    If you're new to this business you could select your autoresponder according to your budget. It may be some time before you see a return on your investment, and you're paying for the AR service all that time.

    Aweber. Most expensive but very good.
    GetResponse. Lower cost but still very good.
    Mailchimp. Free up to 2000 names. BUT NO AFFILIATE MARKETING ALLOWED.
    ListWire. Free for ever. It works. I use it on 4 sites with no problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxdksxx
    Yes I think an auto-responder is one of the single most powerful things even as a noobie just keep up the work and your list will slowly grow with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    Other than web hosting and domain names, email marketing software should be the next thing you spend money on.

    The earlier you start building your list the better.

    But of course if you can't afford it and you aren't getting any real targeted traffic at the beginning, then wait until you get the ball rollin a little.
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  • Profile picture of the author joel1031
    Thanks for all the advice. I have a free month of Aweber so while the ball's not actually rolling yet i can still get a feel for it. Will probably swap to ListWire after that. Anyone other than Alan have experience with that problem?
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  • Just on the MailChimp thing, I actually emailed them a few months back asking for clarification. Your mileage will obviously vary if your list usage is very IM specific, but this might be useful to folks with non-IM specific products.

    Originally Posted by me

    Hi,

    I'm looking to sign up to use MailChimp, but I'd like to clarify the Terms of Use before doing so.

    We are building a website that provides online training through video, screencasts, discussion forums etc. The primary purpose of our outgoing emails will be news and information, but the newsletters will certainly sometimes include affiliate links to products that we recommend.

    Does this violate section 11 (f) where you mention Prohibited Content and Industries?

    Thanks,
    Alastair.
    and the reply:

    Originally Posted by MailChimp

    Hello Alastair,

    It's nice to virtually meet you. So long as the affiliate content compliments your newsletter content and is not the primary focus of the message you should be ok. We would need to see a sample message to say for sure if what you are wanting to send would be ok.

    Feel free to email us back if you have specific questions or comments beyond this that we can assist you with.

    Regards,
    (agent name removed)
    MailChimp.com / Client Services
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Barker
    Originally Posted by joel1031 View Post

    Granted my first month for Aweber was only $1, but after that it's every $20. I have exactly 1 subscriber right now, so I'm not seeing the worth in this until I can get more traffic and conversions.

    Is my line of thinking off? I just don't see the benefit for the cost right now I guess.

    When I got started in internet marketing I was always told to follow the rule that after I had 5 leads I needed to use an autoresponder and email agent. I used Aweber signing up the same way you did. I actually waited until I had about 20 leads before using Aweber and not have hundreds of leads. I have found Aweber to be a very good platform and would recommend it to anyone. On that note and to answer your question, it depends on how quick you are getting leads. If you will not get but 1 or 2 leads per month over the next couple of months, I would probably save my money until I at least have 10 leads to email.
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    Maybe check out GetResponse, you can have your first 250 subs for free. Then its only like $10 per month until your first 500 to 1000 I believe.
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