Where to find full time writers?

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I tried at DP but all of them have grammar errors.
My rate is 0.75 cent per word.
  • Where do you find full time writers?
  • Do you pay per word or you pay monthly payment?
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    what is the problem in indians?
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    • Nothing, I prefer native English writers.
      I checked few samples written by Indians, and I found grammar mistakes.

      0.75 cent per word.
      $7.5 per 1000 words.
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  • Do you mean $.075 or seventy five cents?
  • For an instance I am a writer not a full time one but I write 3 or 4 article a day if you think that you are still in need of some job done feel free to contact me......

    P.S. I am not an Indian (Not that there is anything wrong with it)
  • Perhaps it wasn't the Indians that were the problem but the forum you found them on?

    I have Indians do stuff for me and some of them write better English than I can, which incidentally is far better than most English people can write.

    Don't group them all in one bunch, firstly that's just wrong and secondly, you'll leave a lot of opportunity on the table.

    Finally at a grand total of $3.75 for a 500 word article, any native English speaker, that does it at that rate, probably won't write anywhere near as well as the Indians you've just discounted.
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    • Hopefully, neither of you sell writing services.


      One of the most expensive writers I've used was in India. She was a quality writer and able to command prices as high as, and even higher, than native English speakers in the U.S. or UK. I doubt she'd ever write for a fraction of a cent a word.
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    • I recently read on another forum that people on the WF are viewed as a load of cheapskates (yes, I know, another sweeping generalization). But, in this instance you are absolutely correct: you get what you pay for, or maybe I should say, what you are are prepared to pay for.
    • I couldn't agree more, there are people who may well accept this rate, but you have to question whether they are able to provide a 'quality service'.

      My problem with outsourcing content writing in India, is that the English that is taught, tends to be formal English and therefore mis-matched with most writing work needed for my on-line activities.

      Structurally their work tends to be great. However, it is the choice of words that sometimes loses the flow for Indian writers.

      I am acutely aware that this is a slight generalisation. However, I've noticed that the quality of writers is far better, when you outsource to the Philippines.



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  • At those prices you are not very likely to attract native English speakers. Take a look at the Warriors for Hire threads to get a better idea of what you are going to need to pay for quality work from native English writers.
  • Hi liovvoil - Grammatical errors could be made by writers from any part of the world, be it from India, Philippines or the US. What matters is how you go about selecting a suitable writer to outsource your work. If you wish to work with excellent writers, post an ad in oDesk, Elance or Freelancer stating that you would like to see a sample written by them. Give them a topic on which they can write a sample making it clear that it should not be a copied or rewritten article. Once you receive responses, go through the samples, run it through Copyscape, check the writer's feedback and quality scores and choose the best.
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    • Should I pay per word or I pay monthly payment?
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    • I don't know about oDesk or Freelancer, but this is against Elance's TOS. Buyers are not allowed to require bidders to write a sample specifically for them unless they are willing to pay for it. Just ask them to submit samples of previous work.
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  • If English is not the native language then you are bound to have more people making mistakes in their written work. I live in France, but I was born in the UK. If I tried to write an article in French, well I hate to imagine the outcome.
    The other thing is, what kind of sites are you building? Quality speaks volumes these days. You will struggle to get a well written article at the price you want to pay.

    I would point you to WriteSwap.com but all the writers will be top quality and charge a rate that reflects that. I honestly think you get what you pay for.
  • Hi,

    I am an excellent writer and could do some quality work for you. If interested, please get in touch. My email is 'wandikaali@yahoo.com'.

    Please find attached a sample of my work.

    Many Thanks,

    Vweso
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    • Who told you that you are an excellent writer? They lied.
  • Places like Elance.com, Guru.com and Odesk are some of my favourite places to look for article writers... Try them out?
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    • The OP's math is way off - the price being quoted is .0075/word, not .75/word.

      You won't hire U.S. writers at that price. I think the comment about Indian writers (which she changed) is based on the only responses she had for such low pricing. Of course there are good Indian writers - but they don't work for that amount, either.

      If you want good 1000 word articles from a U.S. writer, expect to pay at least three times the price you are quoting.

      kay
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  • I use a couple of Family Members, and a couple of people who live nearby.

    All 100% English.
    All 100% Honest.

    Much easier. (Cheaper sometimes)
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      I don't know which makes me sadder: the fact that people want and expect to employ full-time writers at $0.75 per 100 words, or the fact that global economic circumstances apparently predicate that some writers are actually willing to accept those terms.
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    • I personally use Odesk and it hasnt let me down so far, try it out.
  • Try Elance, oDesk, or even MTurk... However, you will probably run into grammar errors regardless of who you choose. Many writers working for $0.75 per 100 words are going to focus on quantity and not quality so that they can make a decent hourly pay rate. Investing a little bit more money will lead to better content.
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    • There is no reason that Indians, or people from any country for that matter, cannot learn to speak and write English with perfect grammar.

      However - even Indians who have mastered English mechanics still do not write and speak in the same style and manner as someone who grew up speaking English and living in a western country.

      It's not about the grammar or the spelling, it's about writing style, word choices, metaphors, and references that are used. Look at TechNHome's posts in this thread. Nothing wrong with them, perfectly readable, but anyone from the United States, Canada, or Great Britain can instantly see that TechNHome is not a native speaker.

      When you live and grow up in a country and are immersed in its culture for decades you learn to spot the differences in how people from outside your home talk pretty quickly.

      If you are looking for purely technical content where you don't care if the person can be spotted as a non-native speaker then it's fine. But if you are outsourcing content that is meant to sound like it's coming from a single mom in Chicago then the number of Indian (or Pakistani or Chinese or Russian) writers who could pull that off gets very very small indeed and they are not going to be available for less than a penny a word that's for sure.
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  • ODesk is overpriced to me and requires too much work for a one time hire... That's just me though. I like Freelancer.com it has lots of users, but lots of illiterate foreigners. Try to find a descent priced American and negotiate. My rate i 1$ per 100 words. Writers have no problems with that and I get quality stuff.
    I've been using the same writer I've found on that site for a few years now.

    Remember though if you're buying a full time writer you'll be buying their time not the content the produce so you'll have to be strict on them. And make sure they understand what exactly you are paying them all that money money for.

    Most full time writers will ask for hourly wages obviously. They don't want to be paid for content produced.
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    • Now you are joking.........right? You hire educated writers and treat them like children -- and pay them crap to boot. I can't even get my head around the idea of an experienced writer writing for that little - but to work for someone this condescending? Something is very wrong with those people. Period.
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  • At 0.75 cents per word you are likely to be getting writers where English is their second language, or English speakers that have little writing experience.

    For quality writing you usually end up paying around 2 cents per word or more.

    DP would definitely not be the site I would use to recruit writers. I would recommend here in the Warrior Forum Classifieds, Elance or oDesk.

    As for "full-time" - you are better off instead stating how many articles you need per week. Some people are slower than others.
  • I think freelance it what you need. You can find many writers, in all the world.
  • Based on my experience, odesk is the best place to hire freelancers. But of course you must choose the best one.
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  • you can check fiverr or elance
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    • Your best bet is craigslist. You will constantly have to work with new writers. No one will keep writing for that rate if there is any research required at all.

      But if you're willing to put the time in, you will find enough people to burn through for all your content needs I'm sure.
  • I use freelancer.com
  • You can find full time writers here in the Warriors For Hire section. However, as others have stated, you will probably not likely to find quality content from a native English speaker at the rate of $7.50 per 1000 words. I wouldn't even accept that rate for 500 words.
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  • On the subject of errors - check your signature.
  • No English speaking writer could put food in their mouth for that. I have full time writers but pay $40 per 1000 words.
  • Try www.oDesk.com. There are plently of good writers there at a very affordable rate.
  • How about posting here - type in onlinejobs.ph
    Good luck
  • At the rate you're offering to pay for articles, it's foolish to even expect near perfect grammar. If you want to hire someone to write for you at that rate AND be a native English speaker, then you should get ready to be taken for a ride. I doubt that anyone will write for you at such a dreadfully low rate, but if they do, you won't be getting their best work. You'll likely end up with content that's poorly rewritten, plagiarized, or spun. But at the rate you're offering, I'd say that if it's actually readable, then it comes well deserved regardless of how poorly written the content may be.

    I get so sick of people who try to low ball writers because they don't think that writing is worth much of anything. Since you don't value the skill enough to even offer decent pay, why don't you write the content yourself? Then, just slap $7.50 down on the table for every article you complete and see how it makes you feel. It's obvious that you CAN'T write for yourself for whatever reason, whether it be a lack of know-how or just a refusal to do so. Regardless, I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't take the job that you're offering if you were on the other end of it.

    Either raise your prices or lower your expectations. You can't have it both ways.
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  • You also might want to try Craigslist Phillipines - alot of good English writers there.
  • please check freelancer.com you may find some very good writers
  • You can always try elance, has a very professional outlook
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    • I doubt that will fly with Elance and other freelance sites, although I don't know for sure. I personally don't think it is reasonable to expect people to write a sample article for 1/5 of their normal rate, but that's just me. If buyers want to test writers to see if they're a good fit, they can start with a small job first - at the provider's regular rate. If providers want to offer that to get new clients, then that's different. Many types of service professionals offer a first-time discount to new clients.

      The standard practice is to ask potential providers to submit samples of previous work or to look at their portfolio. Any serious writer will have a portfolio. That should be sufficient to determine the quality of their writing. Granted, if the provider doesn't have an established feedback history then buyers are taking a risk. I'm sure there's probably the occasional provider whose sample articles were actually written by someone else, but that's a foolish move if they want regular work.

      Btw, please don't take this wrong as I'm not trying to be rude, but if you really believe that "most people are completely happy with this option", then in your article writing offer in your signature, why don't you offer the first article for $5 instead of $25 (unless you charge $125 per article and $25 is for a reduced-price sample article)?
  • I always recommend that anyone who can manage correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation should never, ever, ever write for less than two cents a word.
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    • I like how people will happily slap down tons of money on "Instant Income On Autopilot" programs that are obviously way to good to be true but if you ask them pay more than $5.00 for something that's actually going to help them they act like YOU'RE the scammer.
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  • Love the forum. SO many different views and ideas on what is the best way to go. I stumbled across this part tonight while seaching for something else. On ya warriors you give me lots of ideas to solve my writing blues. Anyone wishing to give me any futher tips on finding a writer - go for it.
  • I've found it easier to set a price per article.
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    • This thread has become very entertaining.

      Alot of foreigners are getting antsy about remarks made against non-Americans writing skills.

      It's nothing personal guys it's just business and truthful business at that.
      If you want quality English articles you need a Native American to do the writing for you.
      Foreigners just can't match that. Sure they can beat the American prices very easily, but the quality matches the prices.

      The easiest answer to your problem:
      Look everywhere until you find a descent writer that YOU like that does good work, that is willing to negotiate and compromise.

      And remember... you get what you pay for.

      There is no fast answer to anything it's all trial and error.
  • Go to oDesk.com, they are an awesome sight for freelancing and outsourcing.
  • You tried to find at odesk.com
    There are many writers in there
    You can pay them hourly based on your needs and wants.
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    • I'm happy to write an article for .0075 a word. There's a small catch. I charge a $125 email delivery fee per article. Martin
  • This is kind of like saying you don't like the 99-cent burger at McDonald's and asking where you can get a better one for the same price.

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