Clearly, **I** Am Naive about How Marketing Forums *Should* Be Used

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I know there are countless opinions, approaches and preferences when it comes to participating in a forum. For me, it's conversation - the opportunity to discuss stuff, ask questions, get to know people. I'm not here to showboat, sell anyone anything (unless I post an occasional WSO) nor do I want to become the next WF superstar even though I do market to marketers.

(Side note: The Warrior Forum is such a huge mish-mash of people that I realized long ago that they aren't my market as a whole...and even if they were, I don't think this would change my approach.)

Recently, I've been bewildered by some of the discussions on how to participate in a forum. And LOL...I am not trying to tell anyone how they should participate - do whatcha like as far as I'm concerned. What I am trying to figure out is if I'm alone here.

Some of the discussions have talked about changing your "I" to "you" in forum posts. Bev started an interesting discussion about it and then recently Bev and Kay brought it up again in a thread Steve W. started (It was entitled "Paul Myers Saved My Life Tonight" - which intrigued more than his thread "How to Inject New Life into YOUR Writing").

Anyway, it's not really the "I" vs. "you" thing that has me scratching my chin. It's when people talk about getting more people to view your threads, getting more replies, etc. I've never thought about it. If I post a new thread, I just want the people who are interested to read it...I don't care how many. If I reply to a thread, it's because the topic interests me, annoys me or I just feel like commenting.

Am I alone?

Personally, I don't like threads that read like articles, lectures, etc...and those tend to be "you" focused.

I like to come to the WF as a quick break or downtime and then get back to building my own following (my list, my traffic, etc.) and nurturing the relationship with the following I already have...and yeah...selling them stuff too. :-)

Again, it's just my approach and I'm really just curious about everyone else. What do you look to get out of the WF?

Alice
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I'm with you Alice

    Any thread reading like a lecture or article I never ever read.

    I treat the warrior forum (rightly or wrongly) as a group of friends that I can interact with.

    For instance at the moment I'm taking a coffee break from cleaning cupboards, so I'm browsing the forum, reading threads (and starting a couple).

    Personally I'm not bothered about the you and I thingy. If a thread amuses me or takes my attention then I'm happy to respond.

    Oh well, back to those pesky cupboards

    Kim

    Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

    Personally, I don't like threads that read like articles, lectures, etc...and those tend to be "you" focused.

    I like to come to the WF as a quick break or downtime and then get back to building my own following (my list, my traffic, etc.) and nurturing the relationship with the following I already have...and yeah...selling them stuff too. :-)

    Again, it's just my approach and I'm really just curious about everyone else. What do you look to get out of the WF?

    Alice
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  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    Well said Alice.
    I think there should be a seperate forum
    for those that just want to preach, self promote or tell their life story.

    The main forum, was always meant to be for discussion.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
        Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

        LOL Les...they can do that at Digital Point Solutions hehehehehe.
        Speaking of the lunatic fringe ...
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        There are many that approach WF posting as a critical component to there overall online marketing strategy.

        I think the referenced thread was more about persuasion techniques, but anyone who's read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" would understand most of the basics discussed there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Alice, you are not alone. To me, "forum" has always meant a place to discuss -- not a place to self-promote and therefore worry about how many times I use "I" instead of "you", nor whether I'll get numerous replies or views or any other action. Mainly, I tend to attract the lunatic fringe, and I'm very happy interacting with them. When I want to market, I'll go over to the WSO forum where such activities belong.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
          Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

          I can't say I disagree with your post Kevin...to bad you had to change it.
          Touche, my inebriated Ouzo receptacle.
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          • Profile picture of the author zerofill
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            Touche, my inebriated Ouzo receptacle.
            What the hell kinda language is that? Is that Whiskey language?
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              One other thing, since I'm on my soapbox today.

              Some people actually come to this forum to learn things like marketing
              tactics, writing tricks, organizational skills and so on.

              If all we ever did was sit around here all day starting threads like...

              "Hey, whaddaya think about the use of the Amazon module in a Squidoo Lens"

              the people who do come here to read specific threads about tactics and
              ways to improve their business based on the OP's own experience and
              expertise, will simply stop coming.

              There is room at this forum for all kinds of topics.

              It doesn't have to be one or the other and when we start to dictate to
              people what they should and shouldn't post (outside of the specific rules
              that say no spam, politics or religion) then we begin to travel on a very
              slippery slope.

              If I see a thread I'm not interested in, guess what?

              I don't read it...but I don't try to tell people how to live their lives here
              as long as they're not breaking the rules.

              How hard is that?

              Problem is, without mentioning any names, we've simply got some very
              angry people trolling this forum who have nothing better to do than to
              bitch about something somebody posted because they don't feel it's
              appropriate for this forum.

              Well newsflash...They don't run this place.

              I'm personally fed up with the sanctimonious, self righteous clap trap that
              comes out of some folks.

              Again, read the rules people.
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              • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post



                Problem is, without mentioning any names, we've simply got some very
                angry people trolling this forum
                To be quite honest, I've only seen one angry person
                round here lately.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
                Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                I think Allen commented at least once before that those threads were intended to be blog posts. Not sure...I didn't read them anyways.
                LOL.
                Maybe he needs to add that to the rules.

                Originally Posted by David_Thompson View Post

                Alice, some people use the main forum as their own
                personal blogging platform which I find terrible
                --David
                And here's why David:

                Originally Posted by Eric Lorence View Post

                There are many that approach WF posting as a critical component to there overall online marketing strategy.
                Eric, I can see why those who do will get the most offended by this thread.

                Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                You're right there Roger,
                But you rarely hear a peep from the successful.
                They are too busy making money elsewhere.

                It's the ones not making it elsewhere that spend all
                their time here, trying to convince us how successful they are.
                It's very transparent.
                Have to disagree with you Leslie. Lots of successful people have been participating regularly here for years. Me, Big Mike, Riley, Moffat, John Taylor, Alice, etc...
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post


                  Have to disagree with you Leslie. Lots of successful people have been participating regularly here for years. Me, Big Mike, Riley, Moffat, John Taylor, Alice, etc...
                  Ron, Les thinks that anybody who talks about their success is just full of
                  it. He bases this on nothing more than his opinion with absolutely no fact
                  to back it up.

                  In other words...nothing but sour grapes.
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                  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                    He bases this on nothing more than his opinion with absolutely no fact
                    to back it up.
                    That's rather an ironic statement.
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                • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                  Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post



                  Have to disagree with you Leslie. Lots of successful people have been participating regularly here for years. Me, Big Mike, Riley, Moffat, John Taylor, Alice, etc...
                  Have to disagree there Ron.
                  Their posts are rare these days
                  compared to the self promoters.
                  Either that or they're getting drowned out.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Alice,

        I use the forum for similar reasons to yourself. I also understand and accept that others use it purely for marketing/promotional purposes.

        There have been many hints, even from the highest level, that some of the most successful people come here to trawl for content/ideas from the chatterboxes.

        I think there's a clear line between self-promotion and spam, and that it's relatively under control and observed by the majority.

        Personally, I think that the blend between people who come here for interaction, and those who come here for promotional reasons, along with everything in between is what gives the forum it's unique and successful 'flavour'.

        This is because one can choose to observe and/or participate in discussions about making money, as well as observe and/or participate in making money.

        If it only contained one or the other, it would not offer so much. But because it offers both, it creates an often powerful and even explosive mixture - a recipe for fun, education and profit.

        EG - if sig files and the WSO were removed, there might be less arguing and negativity. But there would also be many lost opportunities for fun, education and profit and the forum would be a shadow of it's current self. Likewise, if conversation and banter were banned, it would just be another ebook/software directory, and you probably wouldn't have members coming here (and often only here) for decades.
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        • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post


          There have been many hints, even from the highest level, that some of the most successful people come here to trawl for content/ideas from the chatterboxes.
          You're right there Roger,
          But you rarely hear a peep from the successful.
          They are too busy making money elsewhere.

          It's the ones not making it elsewhere that spend all
          their time here, trying to convince us how successful they are.
          It's very transparent.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Merz
            This may not make total sense in regards to like comparisons, but I'd like to imagine each of us as a subway musician with a tin cup ... your content is the guitar, and your sig file is the tin cup. The better you consistently satisfy your audience ... or fellow forum members, with quality content, the better the likelihood they'll toss a coin in your cup ... or visit your sig file destination, and refer others to do the same. As they get to know you, they'll feel even more comfortable and likely to recommend others to check you out ... qualifying your credibility and winning new friends as your reputation grows.

            In other words, this is a Marketing Forum ... I see no reason why a member that consistently gives valuable advice in their posts shouldn't enjoy a commensurate number of indirect chances at compensation, if his/her fellow members choose to take that path through their sig. But ... the post content should be completely disconnected from the sig file, as in my short story above.

            That's as far as the main discussion forum is concerned ... I've always liked the idea of off topic areas where we can simply amuse and get to know one another on a less serious basis. All work and no play ..

            Hope that analogy makes sense ... I've only one coffee in the tank.

            Cheers,

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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Alice, here is the way I look at it (expecting all those who don't agree to
              jump down my throat...thank goodness I have them all on ignore)

              I read the main rules for posting on this forum.

              I see nothing in those rules that state...

              1. You cannot talk about yourself.
              2. You cannot post tips on how to do things.
              3. You cannot be controversial and provoke heated debate.

              As long as there is nothing in the rules that says I can't do these things,
              then I will continue to do them.

              We no longer have moderators, so if members have a problem with a
              thread that a person starts, they should simply report it.

              Problem solved.

              I think we have too many people trying to tell too many other people how
              they should and shouldn't behave in a forum.

              I read the rules...and that's all that matters to me.

              For this, some will like me...some will hate me.

              I can handle both.

              ** EDIT **

              Here are the forum rules in case anybody wants to dispute what
              I just said.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ead-first.html
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              • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                I read the main rules for posting on this forum.

                I see nothing in those rules that state...

                1. You cannot talk about yourself.
                2. You cannot post tips on how to do things.
                3. You cannot be controversial and provoke heated debate.
                I don't see anything in the rules that says you can either.
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          • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
            Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

            You're right there Roger,
            But you rarely hear a peep from the successful.
            They are too busy making money elsewhere.

            It's the ones not making it elsewhere that spend all
            their time here, trying to convince us how successful they are.
            It's very transparent.
            I agree with you on this one...

            Although I might be a little biased because I agree with almost everything you say...
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

    I'm not here to sell anyone anything
    Alice
    I think , at the end of the day , your aim is to make money.

    But , I support you idea that every thing post here should have value to the warrior forum members .

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
      Alice, some people use the main forum as their own
      personal blogging platform which I find terrible and
      most of the post are reading more like salesletters
      than anything else.

      It's all well and good expressing your point of views
      but if every post is self-promoting type post which
      belongs on you blog then it should be moved...

      --David
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  • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
    Sure I understand, Devanand. Hence, my statements about focusing my energy and marketing efforts on my own unique market. The words aren't hard to come by when I need them, but I see what you're saying.

    Alice
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  • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
    Hmmm...I don't understand the Digital Point comment, but I don't hang out there. I did go to a bar called the "Lunatic Fringe" once and got punched in the nose by the bouncer. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    I think I will have to give you an infraction Alice. You said the word *I* too many times. Shame on you.

    But I agree. Some posts only read like long lectures, I read the first sentence, skim down to the 50th sentence-zzzzzz-then press the back button. You are not alone in how you use the forum.
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    Yes you are alone. But don't worry, we're alone together!

    CUE MUSICAL INTERLUDE:

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  • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
    Easy boys!

    Great points on it taking all kinds...and I agree. No one appears to be breaking rules. I also hope that I was clear in my post, I am not suggesting how people should or must approach things.

    I just really had my eyes open in the past few days on why some things are the way they are here.

    Alice

    P.S. iIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Alice,

      I tend to be a social person, and treat this place in that way. But only to a certain extent. I learn here and, when I think I can add to a thread, I'll do that.

      The exchange of information on a specific topic will occasionally require that the person who has it go into "teaching" mode. That can easily start to read like a lecture or article. I personally enjoy reading those, as long as the value is there.

      I do agree that some people focus too much on promotion, rather than discussion. That's not what this part of the board is for, as you say.


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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    Actually, this makes me sad... oh, I don't mean all the stuff about the forum and who does what! What makes me sad is to learn that Alice got hit in the nose by a bouncer! THAT makes me sad; ALTHOUGH, one would think that there was a definite possibility of getting one's nose hit if one went to a bar called the Lunatic Fringe! One would also be curious to know what one was doing that would cause one to get hit in one's nose by the bouncer!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Hmm

      She looks so sweet in her piccies

      I'm shocked and saddened Alice that you would ever frequent such a place lol


      Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton View Post

      Actually, this makes me sad... oh, I don't mean all the stuff about the forum and who does what! What makes me sad is to learn that Alice got hit in the nose by a bouncer! THAT makes me sad; ALTHOUGH, one would think that there was a definite possibility of getting one's nose hit if one went to a bar called the Lunatic Fringe! One would also be curious to know what one was doing that would cause one to get hit in one's nose by the bouncer!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
      Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton View Post

      One would also be curious to know what one was doing that would cause one to get hit in one's nose by the bouncer!
      Hehehe...long story and off-topic for a marketing forum. But Lunatic Fringe used to be a bar where local Vancouver bands performed. I had some friends play their one night and things got craaaaaaazy! That was about 15 years ago.

      Alice
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  • Profile picture of the author bhopkins
    Alice you are not alone at all. I even left this forum for quite a while because of the blatent self-promotion done by some people. I do understand this is a marketing forum and people are going to market here, but there are ways to do it very effectively without commenting in every other post telling everyone how great you are.
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    Gosh I must not be thinking hard enough about how I'm using the forum. I never even thought about my "I"s or "You"s or self promotion or sharing.

    I simply ask for help when I need it, share tips I know others need, and shoot the shit with like-minded or different-minded people.

    Methinks everyone's thinking too hard about this. Just be you and do what you do. We can weed out stuff we like and dislike

    tiff
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  • Profile picture of the author johnng
    Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

    I know there are countless opinions, approaches and preferences when it comes to participating in a forum. For me, it's conversation - the opportunity to discuss stuff, ask questions, get to know people. I'm not here to showboat, sell anyone anything (unless I post an occasional WSO) nor do I want to become the next WF superstar even though I do market to marketers.

    (Side note: The Warrior Forum is such a huge mish-mash of people that I realized long ago that they aren't my market as a whole...and even if they were, I don't think this would change my approach.)

    Recently, I've been bewildered by some of the discussions on how to participate in a forum. And LOL...I am not trying to tell anyone how they should participate - do whatcha like as far as I'm concerned. What I am trying to figure out is if I'm alone here.

    Some of the discussions have talked about changing your "I" to "you" in forum posts. Bev started an interesting discussion about it and then recently Bev and Kay brought it up again in a thread Steve W. started (It was entitled "Paul Myers Saved My Life Tonight" - which intrigued more than his thread "How to Inject New Life into YOUR Writing").

    Anyway, it's not really the "I" vs. "you" thing that has me scratching my chin. It's when people talk about getting more people to view your threads, getting more replies, etc. I've never thought about it. If I post a new thread, I just want the people who are interested to read it...I don't care how many. If I reply to a thread, it's because the topic interests me, annoys me or I just feel like commenting.

    Am I alone?

    Personally, I don't like threads that read like articles, lectures, etc...and those tend to be "you" focused.

    I like to come to the WF as a quick break or downtime and then get back to building my own following (my list, my traffic, etc.) and nurturing the relationship with the following I already have...and yeah...selling them stuff too. :-)

    Again, it's just my approach and I'm really just curious about everyone else. What do you look to get out of the WF?

    Alice
    Hi Alice,
    Being new in posting in Forum, I have no idea there is so much details to be considered. When I post, I am just trying to give some value and not tradding on somebody's foot or saying something stupid. Anything else, wether is "you" or "me" or "I" just won't come into it. Hope the last sentence will not offend anybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author psresearch
    Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

    Again, it's just my approach and I'm really just curious about everyone else. What do you look to get out of the WF?

    Alice
    - Get help getting unstuck when I get stuck
    - Help others get unstuck when they're stuck
    - Get ideas to increase profits
    - Give others ideas to increase profits
    - Get information on avoiding certain types of problems
    - Help others avoid problems.

    One thing I noticed about what I just posted is that I come to the WF as a consumer first (to help my businesses) and as a "helper" second.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    That was about 15 years ago.
    Oh wow, how did you get in a bar when you were only ten years old?
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  • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
    This is quite the partaaaaaaaay! We have Alice - the victim of bouncer violence, whiskey, ouzo, BIGMike worshippers, hamsters, mankinis, the lunatic fringe. Wow!

    Most of the time I come here to learn. I'm in a semi-constant state of humble gratitude for all the cool stuff I've learned here. I'm talking about information that has literally changed my life.

    Some of the charm of this board is due to the variety of folks who frequent it. Personally, I enjoy the chaos!

    I say use the WF in the way that works best for you (as long as you aren't breaking the TOS or spamming, etc.). We've got a spicy bunch here. I'd like to keep 'em around.

    Cindy

    P.S. Hey Alice, if you'd like, we could round up a bunch of rowdy warriors and go beat that bouncer's derriere! Just say the word, OK?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    This message board is like any other message board for me. I'm here to chat, make some connections with people, give my input on things, have discussions and conversations.

    The ONLY thing different from here and somewhere else is the subject matter the forum is based on. I don't really think about marketing at all here. If anything I just come here to learn some new tricks and techniques, discuss trends and changes in a business we're all working in, and share ideas and information. If I wanted the other side of this, there's always FFA forums and forums overrun with spambots that I can see all the ads I want
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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    Some people should take it easy.

    Alice is just stating her personal preference, there's no
    right or wrong.

    Personally, as long as you're not spamming, then there's nothing
    that forbids you to use and provide value to the forum in
    whichever way you choose to.
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  • Profile picture of the author havplenty
    Well I can understand your feelings, but I think it's important that we all appreciate that different people will have different approaches to this forum. I think you should focus on what you want to achieve through your participation.

    As you said it is a mish-mash and as always with mish-mashes, you never know quite what you are going to get.

    I think there is a 'spirit' to the WF and no one member can alter that. People who join get swept up by that spirit. Those who don't fit in evcentually fall aside or get banned.

    Just enjoy it, contribute, inspire someone, help someone and you and the WF will be better for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
    Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

    What do you look to get out of the WF?

    Alice
    When I visit the forum, my first thought is: "I need a break. I wonder what Warriors are talking about today. Any interesting discussions?" and right after that: "Is there someone I can help?"

    Well, there's that dreaded letter *I* - so I have to disagree that using it means you are one of the self-promoters.

    But some of you have me questioning my approach to posting. I've been accused of "lecturing" in the past and even been told off on another unrelated forum for doing so. That's just my style, so how do you change that?

    Someone else said, you jump into teacher mode when the need arises and I guess that's when the "lecturing" kicks in.

    I don't believe there is a right or wrong way to communicate - as long as you are here to share your knowledge, help others, seek help when you need it, strike up a few good conversations and enjoy the personalities that abound here, and not strictly to self-promote with every word.

    Sylvia

    OMG... did that just sound like a lecture?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
      Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

      Well, there's that dreaded letter *I* - so I have to disagree that using it means you are one of the self-promoters.
      Oh, I definitely didn't say that. I think the word *I* is one of the most natural things in conversation. In a thread the other day, Bev suggested we take away the focus from *I* and focus on the forum audience. My personal thought is that takes away from regular ol' discussions and that we don't need to be so concerned about audience here - just talk to people.

      Yes, I totally feel lectured at. :-( Boo hoo...it's like being back at Mr. Buttery's class again. At least you didn't throw chalk brushes across the room. He he he he.

      Alice
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      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
        Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

        Oh, I definitely didn't say that. I think the word *I* is one of the most natural things in conversation. In a thread the other day, Bev suggested we take away the focus from *I* and focus on the forum audience. My personal thought is that takes away from regular ol' discussions and that we don't need to be so concerned about audience here - just talk to people.

        Yes, I totally feel lectured at. :-( Boo hoo...it's like being back at Mr. Buttery's class again. At least you didn't throw chalk brushes across the room. He he he he.

        Alice
        No, I don't think I was referring to your statement - didn't someone else make that reference to *I* and self promoters?

        So... Alice. Are you just being funny or did it really come across as lecturing?

        []-)->)->)->) chalk brush coming your way - Duck!

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        • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
          Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

          No, I don't think I was referring to your statement - didn't someone else make that reference to *I* and self promoters?
          LOL...I don't know. This IS like class. I'm totally lost. ;-)

          So... Alice. Are you just being funny or did it really come across as lecturing?
          It didn't sound like a lecture at all.
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          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
            Originally Posted by Alice Seba View Post

            LOL...I don't know. This IS like class. I'm totally lost. ;-)

            It didn't sound like a lecture at all.
            Whew! Thank goodness. I hate being lectured to.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The "I" point was simply a comment "I" made when Steven was posting about how good Paul Myers' copy is. When I read that I realized threads by Paul are always a "must read" - and when I looked at his thread titles, there was a clear pattern.....the comment I posted was simply:

      An example of how Paul approaches his readers can be found looking at thread titles he's posted here. Title focus is "you, your, how to, etc" and there is no "I, me, my" in his titles. ........... it's a subtle example of how Paul approaches his readers. It's why his writing is always worth reading.
      That first comment on the "I" vs "you" - was just an observation of Paul's copywriting style, nothing more.

      It's the same reason site content that talks about the site visitor's benefits does better than content that is all about the site owner. I think of it as "talking to" people, rather than "talking at" them.

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      • Profile picture of the author Alice Seba
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        That first comment on the "I" vs "you" - was just an observation of Paul's copywriting style, nothing more.
        I understand and that's part of what made me realize that some people consider participating on a forum to be copywriting. It was just kind of the whole sequence of events that got me thinking.

        It's the same reason site content that talks about the site visitor's benefits does better than content that is all about the site owner. I think of it as "talking to" people, rather than "talking at" them.
        On a content site, on a sales page - I agree. On a forum...maybe not so much, at least from my perspective. It goes back to my comment on lecturing.

        And my comments have NOTHING to do with commentary about Paul's writing style - since Paul can obviously adjust his writing to fit any situation. I was just talking about what got me to the point of making this post. Sorry if I misrepresented what you said. It wasn't my intention.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Dolby
    Wow Paul after all these years I never knew you where Social

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  • Profile picture of the author Leanne King
    Got to say I'm with Tiffany on this one. I haven't really thought about how I use the WF. If I want to sell stuff I have a WSO, if I need help I ask for it. If something interests me I might comment on it.

    Sorry too many "I"s

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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I understand the sentiment in some of the posts here.

    Personally, I almost never read forum posts that look like blog posts. I used to, then I realized that in most cases they weren't for me and just skip over them now. But I don't rail against them, either.
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