by Stringvest Banned
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I am hoping that I can get some advice here, or maybe a correction of my thinking. Either way I could do with some answers.

I became involved with affiliate marketing about 2 months ago and I keep reading about how important it is to write articles in order to attract visitors to my sites. If this is so, how long does it take to see any results from article submissions?

How many articles should be written about any particular product? Should I just write about any topic and hope that people will click the link/s in my bios, anyway?

The thing is that I really haven't seen any results worth noting from writing articles.

I believe that most of the visitors I've had so far, have arrived because of the ads I placed in USfreeads.com.

Also, I find writing a real chore and the more I think about having to write about the same thing over and over again, the more disheartened I become.

I have read about software that makes the process easier and can practically do away with having to do research. There is software for massive article submissions to hundreds (thousands?) of article directories and even forums, so I hear.

But is this what it's all about? Do I have to become a sort of writing machine and turn out thousands of articles each year in order to get visitors? The thought of it is really quite depressing.

What about "identical content" (or something)? You submit the same article to loads of directories and immediately you've shot yourself in the foot because you have deliberately produced tons of identical content. I don't get it.

Is there a better way - an easier way of getting traffic, without having to risk losing money I don't have, experimenting with Adwords?

Would my time be better spent on producing loads more web pages that sell loads of separate affiliated products. The more the better, eh?

That way I am at least putting up some virtual real estate.

Any nous you can offer will be very gratefully received because, at the moment I'm drowning in confusion and frustration.

Cheers

PS. What's this stuff below the WYSIWYG frame that says, Tags and below that - Trackback?
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    The important thing to remember is to not quit.

    These are the best of times for people that know what they are doing OK?

    - You know you could have the articles written for your for less than $10 each:

    - Isnare will distribute the article for you for only $2 each.

    - Google's site targeting program is a fantastic way to get lots of traffic - dirt cheap without you doing a lot of work - and you should be able to get a free coupon for $50 with Google to use for experimentation.

    - Start a free blog farm in your niche. ( 4 blogs will do )

    Hope this helps!

    TL
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    • Profile picture of the author Stringvest
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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      The important thing to remember is to not quit.

      These are the best of times for people that know what they are doing OK?

      - You know you could have the articles written for your for less than $10 each:

      - Isnare will distribute the article for you for only $2 each.

      - Google's site targeting program is a fantastic way to get lots of traffic - dirt cheap without you doing a lot of work - and you should be able to get a free coupon for $50 with Google to use for experimentation.

      - Start a free blog farm in your niche. ( 4 blogs will do )

      Hope this helps!

      TL
      Hi TLTheLiberator,

      Thanks for getting back.

      I don't think I can quit. I would never be able to forgive myself.

      You have said, "These are the best of times for people that know what they are doing OK?"

      OK, but, - well..urm... You have reminded me that I DON'T really know what I'm doing.

      There is so much information and opinion on how to become successful online that I find it almost impossible to decide where to start and what to start doing. That is why I have been placing ads and writing articles. I figured that writing articles as a way of attracting visitors seems to be the popular advice which everyone is following and if it's good enough for them, then it's good enough for me. The problem is that nothing is really changing.

      I am living on a very limited budget and whatever progress I make, it will have to be done through very low cost, or no cost means.

      I dare not go near Adwords yet because I have read real horror stories about various people who have been unsure of what they were actually doing and they suffered the financial repercussions of what, in effect, turned out to be a form of gambling.

      My situation can't be rare, I know. There must be countless others who are wondering why they are not getting any traffic. I keep thinking as long as I keep plugging away and getting more and more stuff out there, sooner - or probably - later, I will start to see some success. I just wonder how long it will take.

      I don't mind reinvesting once I start earning and then I will certainly take your advice and get some of my article outsourced, but for now I have to do it alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    Originally Posted by Stringvest View Post

    I believe that most of the visitors I've had so far, have arrived because of the ads I placed in USfreeads.com.
    When you say "believe", that leads me to believe that you don't have any analytics or tracking going on. Get ye to Google Analytics, it's free, install it on your site, then you will *know* where your traffic is coming from and which traffic-generating efforts are working. Then do more of what works, and drop what doesn't work.

    My own experience is that I get traffic from ezinearticles and Buzzle of the article-directory type sites, and Squidoo and Knol as other info-page-posting sites which you can use your articles on. However, you shouldn't assume that you'll have the same experience: you should get your writing out there onto a variety of platforms and see what works.

    Posting your writing on your own site also creates traffic by the fact that it gets you more search engine traffic. To find out which is best for your site, in your niche, again you need to try things and see what works.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stringvest
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      Originally Posted by kevinw1 View Post

      When you say "believe", that leads me to believe that you don't have any analytics or tracking going on. Get ye to Google Analytics, it's free, install it on your site, then you will *know* where your traffic is coming from and which traffic-generating efforts are working. Then do more of what works, and drop what doesn't work.

      My own experience is that I get traffic from ezinearticles and Buzzle of the article-directory type sites, and Squidoo and Knol as other info-page-posting sites which you can use your articles on. However, you shouldn't assume that you'll have the same experience: you should get your writing out there onto a variety of platforms and see what works.

      Posting your writing on your own site also creates traffic by the fact that it gets you more search engine traffic. To find out which is best for your site, in your niche, again you need to try things and see what works.
      Hi kevinw1,

      I believe that what you believe about what I believe - is correct - I believe. I am not using any analytics or tracking tools.

      I really appreciate you pointing that out to me. It makes a lot of sense and would mean that I can be much more precise with the work I do. I'll get over to Google right after this and get things set up.

      That one piece of advice means that I will no-longer just "believe" that I know where traffic is coming from and it means that if I experiment, as you suggest, I can know for sure if what I'm doing is having any positive effect.

      I am a little puzzled by what you mean when you talk about me getting my writing onto a "variety of platforms".

      What you say about posting on my own sites makes a lot of sense but apart from that and the article directories, how many varieties of platforms are there - and what are they? Blog writing I guess would be one, but I am nervous about that because I am not an expert in anything and if I have to contribute to a blog on a daily basis, I think I would soon run out of things to say. It's not that I'm a lousy writer, (I believe) but I am a fussy writer - maybe too fussy. I want my writing to be quality and that might mean that I try too hard and labor over it too long. I wish I could call it a labor of love but to be honest, I've had more fun digging holes.

      Thanks for the useful advice though. I'll get me over to Google right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    By "platforms" I mean all the places where you can post content and include a link back to your main site. That could be a Squidoo page, a Hubpages hub, a google "Knol", a free Blogger blog, a Weebly page, a Posterous page - you can google any of those platform names to find them. All of them let you post text, pictures etc and make links, though Hubpages are a bit picky about links.

    Those are a just a few examples, there are many more places. You don't need to have an ongoing, frequently posted-to blog to get useful links, even one posting will do.

    Many times one of those pages will get you just links, not direct traffic - but since you can make them be relevant, do-follow links with ideal anchor text, they will help with getting your main pages ranked better in Google and that will improve your organic traffic.

    There's a lot of basic SEO you may be missing. Check out the (free) ebook "SEO fast Start" by Dan Theis, it's at
    SEO Fast Start: Free SEO Book & Help from Dan Thies

    Kevin
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    • Profile picture of the author Stringvest
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      FOR KEVIN...


      Hi Kevin,

      Just a quick note of thanks for providing me with the link to "SEO fast Start".

      You were right. There is a lot of basic SEO I've been missing.

      Because of the kind of confusing mess that misinformation, conflicting information and downright BS can get you into, it is very pleasant to find information that has the clear ring of truth about it.

      This e-book will help me to steer a better course and I thank you for that.

      Cheers,

      Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
    Originally Posted by Stringvest View Post

    Should I just write about any topic and hope that people will click the link/s in my bios, anyway?
    This question makes me wonder just how well you are targeting your articles. Are you doing any keyword research first to ensure you'll get traffic to your articles? Are you targeting the market for the product you are promoting? Are you merely hoping people will click your bio link, or are you putting a strong call to action there?
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    • Profile picture of the author Capone
      I think, from the tone of your post, that you could really benefit by starting with the basics. The first place I'd like to direct you towards is google. Do a search on Bum Marketing and keep reading. Pay particular attention to anything written by Travis Sago. I promise you'll learn a lot

      I am the proud owner of several excellent ebooks on article marketing. If you'd like, PM me and I'd be happy to share a few with you. There are a lot of little tricks to it if you're going to do it right but remember...it's not rocket science.

      Good Luck,
      Capone
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    • Profile picture of the author Stringvest
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      Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

      This question makes me wonder just how well you are targeting your articles. Are you doing any keyword research first to ensure you'll get traffic to your articles? Are you targeting the market for the product you are promoting? Are you merely hoping people will click your bio link, or are you putting a strong call to action there?
      Hello Kevin,

      Yes, I am doing keyword research - I think. The trouble is that I've been knocked about by the conflicting advice I've read and now I don't know what the real truth is. I thought I was doing things right by using the Google Keyword Tool and digging down to get popular keywords that didn't have much competition. I would put the keywords into quote marks and see what Google search presented. If there was less than 5000 results I would consider that keyword to be useful.

      Then I got an email from someone called Court, at thekeywordacademy.com who basically told me that the quotations thing was a load of nonsense and that most people have got it all wrong because they don't take into account Page Ranking and that if they did, they would discover that they can use keywords that have 1,ooo,ooo searches returned and it can still be a good keyword to use as long as the Page Rank for the first 10 results is between 0-2.

      If I am honest with myself, I would have to say that I don't know what is the truth, and because of that I haven't placed a great deal of importance on keyword research just so long as I'm writing an article which is relevant to the product and follows the A.I.D.A. rule. (Attention, Interest, Desire, Action).

      The problem with looking for answers outside of forums is that you get subjected to every sales pitch going and every opinion conceivable. I call it the "boy who cried, WOLF" syndrome, because in the end you just say to yourself, 'yeah, yeah - heard it all before and there is no point in believing any of it. Or you can believe all of it. It doesn't really matter because, whatever you choose to believe, you are back right where you started - not knowing what is true.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinw1
    You're welcome, Mark.

    Keep reading here at the Warrior forum and you'll quickly see whose writing is worth reading (and believing every word). Not everyone posts here, of course, but there's enough information right here to get you well on your way.
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