I just flipped a no-income blog for $1,000, here's my tips

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I wanted to make a thread that I think can help a lot of Warriors, and share my tips about how I recently sold a website for $1,000 that never made me a dollar when I owned it.

I know that just about everyone out there has a website that they setup a year or two ago and haven't touched it since, and have no desire to improve upon or keep up with.

If that's you, this might motivate you to sell these old sites for a nice little payday now, and get rid of the dead weight in your site portfolio.

Here's a little screenshot for effect:



Sooooo......................

Basically, I am a physical product guy, but I decided about a year ago that I found a nice little niche in information products that I wanted to go after.

So, I created several extremely basic squeeze page sites in the niche, (which was weight loss) did minimal backlinking, and managed to get several top rankings for some pretty cool keywords. I setup a tiny 3 email followup sequence and never touched the sites again.

The sites started getting about 100 visitors per day and about 5-10 email signups per day.

I kept trying to find the motivation to keep up with the list, but I was not passionate about the topic at all and just couldn't bring myself to utilize and promote these sites.

After almost a year, I had to decide if I wanted to keep these domain names. Since I wasn't motivated to do anything with the sites and never made a sale from my (admittedly very lame) follow up sequence, I decided that I would rather just cut these sites loose and sell them to someone who is into info marketing and listbuilding.

By this time, I had a list of about 1000 subscribers, so I knew that would be valuable to somebody, but the sites had never made a dollar because of laziness on my part, so I knew it might be more difficult to sell with no income proof.

Still, I put the sites up (3 sites) for sale on Flippa one day and figured I would wait and see what happens.

I got no bids for the first 2 days of the 3 day auction. I started thinking to myself 'Oh well', I guess I'll just attempt to do something else with them, they obviously aren't getting much interest.'

On the third day, I got my first bid, which was cool. It was for $100.

Then, I got one more bid for $500, and I was pretty happy because I figured that worst case scenario, I could sell for $500 and at least make it worth my while to sell, and I would recoup my time investment into the sites.

I stayed up until about 1 AM and the auction was almost over, and there was one more bid that I didn't even approve because it was only $5 higher than the other bid, and I had already been communicating with the $500 bidder so I wanted it to go to him.

So, I went to bed thinking "ok cool, I'm not exactly thrilled with the $500 sale but I'm satisfied, especially for a site that never made me money and for my first Flippa sale."

I woke up the next morning and checked my email. The first email I saw was from PayPal:

"You have received a payment of $1,000" ( my buy-it-now-price)

I was like 'F Yeah!' I went to bed thinking the auction was done at $500 and ended up waking up to $1,000. I was pretty happy for my first site sale!

Sorry for the long story, here are the takeaways that I believe helped me to sell the sites for a good price and to get the maximum cash possible for the sites.

Anybody with a crappy old site they don't want anymore can follow these tips to get a decent little payday for themselves:

1) When selling your site, remember that you are trying to appeal to the one person out there that wants your site more than anyone else does and is willing to pay the highest premium for it.
In any auction there will always be one person with whom your site fits in with perfectly and is exactly what they have been looking for or trying to accomplish themselves.

This one person is the one who is telling himself "I'm getting this site no matter what" and believes that the site has much more value to him because he is the one who can utilize it best. He sees it as a rare opportunity to buy it and is willing to pay much more because of that. These people are usually more willing to make larger bids and risk more on the site than a person who has less emotional involvement in the niche or business model.

The key to getting the maximum price for your site on Flippa is to appeal to that one person and make the BIN price high enough where it will be a great deal for you and yield you a higher sale price than the normal bidding would, but low enough to where that person who really wants your site still sees it as attainable.

That way, you can usually get them to spend a little bit more than they originally wanted to, but you won't scare them away with a too-high price.

2) Take the time to write an in-depth yet easy to read listing that covers all of the main points that a serious buyer would want covered
. The bare necessities are a section on an intro/overview, potential, why you are selling, what they are getting, a background of the market potential, and any other appealing factors about the site.

Make it detailed, persuasive, and show prospective buyers the opportunity of the site by showing ways that their investment can easily and quickly be recouped soon after the sale.

Simply by making the description somewhat longer and more detailed, and especially well laid out and clear, you will increase the perceived value of the website you are selling because bidders can tell you care and make the assumption that if you put a lot of time into the listing, you must expect a good return for the sale and that you have something of real value to them.

3) Be strategic about accepting bids. This worked out in my favor bigtime and I hadn't even tried to do it at the time, but here is what happened:

When I went to bed, the auction was almost over and the highest bid was $500, with another bid for $505 that I never approved, which meant that people could see that there was a pending bid, but they could not see the amount of that pending bid. This will drive people absolutely nuts!

So what happened was while I was in bed, another person had placed a second bid, but I couldn't approve it because I was sleeping. So, I had 2 pending bids above my $500 bid, which nobody could see how much they were for.

Remember I said there's always one guy who wants your site worse than anyone else? The suspense of not knowing how much those last two bids were for was probably driving him nuts!

So, in his mind, if the current bid was for $500 with two pending bids left and the BIN was $1000, it was in his best interest to guarantee that he got the site by doing the BIN, considering he figured the other 2 bids would be close to the BIN anyway. He had no idea that the two pending bids were nowhere near the BIN price, but he wanted it so badly he just couldn't risk it.

4) Sell your site based on it's best assets, and if it has any negative associations with it, explain them and rationalize them. I sold this site not based on the looks or content of the site, but instead I sold it based on the search rankings that it had achieved and the email list it had grown. The site itself was ugly and poorly done, but it was the rankings and the list that sold.

And, even though the site had never made a dollar, rather than trying to ignore that ugly little fact, I confronted it head on and gave a detailed reason for the lack of income.

5) Be very responsive and nice to all commenters and messagers. You never know who your final buyer could be!


I know this got a little bit long and a little scattered, but I just wanted to type this up quickly for all the people out there who are letting old sites die when they could be making a nice little lump sum off of a site they were just going to let lapse anyway. I know for me, it was very cool to make $1000 off of a site I literally wasn't even going to renew! Basically like found money.

Hope you enjoyed this Let me know if I can answer any questions in the comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author BXPS
    congratulations bro.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    What a good result!
    I must put in a 'Buy Now Price' on the site I am selling on Flippa, I thought maybe people will think it is the Reserve price and they have got to bid that amount.
    Congratulations and many thanks for your post.
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    Great result however - 'Anyone with a crappy old site can do this' doesn't really apply man.

    3 squeeze pages with high rankings and 100 visitors per day with a 1000 subscribers already doesn't really qualify as a 'crappy old site' in most peoples books...

    I've got some crappy old sites I can show ya if you need clarification
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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      Great result however - 'Anyone with a crappy old site can do this' doesn't really apply man.

      3 squeeze pages with high rankings and 100 visitors per day with a 1000 subscribers already doesn't really qualify as a 'crappy old site' in most peoples books...

      I've got some crappy old sites I can show ya if you need clarification
      Ha, thanks for the comment you are right, it wasn't the crappiest of sites! But it was still an ugly-as-sin site that had no income proof at all and a list that was far from responsive.

      I still believe that if a site has good rankings, the rankings alone are enough to sell for a decent price. Most smart investors are going to redo the site anyway to make up for the missing potential, so it is really the traffic and rankings you are selling.

      I am sure there are many people on this forum that have a **** site with good rankings, those are the ones that can capitalize from this.
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    • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      Great result however - 'Anyone with a crappy old site can do this' doesn't really apply man.

      3 squeeze pages with high rankings and 100 visitors per day with a 1000 subscribers already doesn't really qualify as a 'crappy old site' in most peoples books...

      I've got some crappy old sites I can show ya if you need clarification
      This x 1,000,000,0000000000000000000

      Your advice on flipping sites is commendable, and it is great you have shared these tips.

      But comparing this sale and using it as an example to get others to try and flip their "crappy sites" is pretty off base.

      You do realize the buyer is probably turning a profit already, right? Even through selling your 1,000 subscribers as leads you could have earned more than $1,000.

      Good work, great tips, congratulations. But dont always jump to flipping sites as the prime source for income.
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      • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
        Originally Posted by DrewClement View Post

        This x 1,000,000,0000000000000000000

        Your advice on flipping sites is commendable, and it is great you have shared these tips.

        But comparing this sale and using it as an example to get others to try and flip their "crappy sites" is pretty off base.

        You do realize the buyer is probably turning a profit already, right? Even through selling your 1,000 subscribers as leads you could have earned more than $1,000.

        Good work, great tips, congratulations. But dont always jump to flipping sites as the prime source for income.
        Good points here, I appreciate them. Maybe I was being to liberal with my speech when I said you can do this with crappy sites

        Still, my point is that you can still flip old sites that don't seem worth much to you, but if you market them well in your listing and can capitalize on even one good ranking, there are people out there who will pay you a premium for a site that you otherwise may have thought was worthless.

        The tips I gave about allowing bids to sit without approving them and finding the one fanatical buyer will work for anyone who wants to make a quick sale.

        Thanks for the feedback man!
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        • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
          Originally Posted by Conrad Stuart View Post

          Good points here, I appreciate them. Maybe I was being to liberal with my speech when I said you can do this with crappy sites

          Still, my point is that you can still flip old sites that don't seem worth much to you, but if you market them well in your listing and can capitalize on even one good ranking, there are people out there who will pay you a premium for a site that you otherwise may have thought was worthless.

          The tips I gave about allowing bids to sit without approving them and finding the one fanatical buyer will work for anyone who wants to make a quick sale.

          Thanks for the feedback man!
          Point taken, and agreed.

          Just do me a favor and commit to looking into and doing some research on lead gen, and selling the leads you gather. If you are capable of quickly creating and promoting sites that can gather 1,000 subscribers in a short amount of time.....you've got oodles of opportunity and a ton of promise. FAR behind flipping sites on Flippa.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Way to go, well done. Just goes to show you testing is everything, even in flippin sites
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  • Profile picture of the author coco james
    wow that is impressive, is it beter when getting older domains to sell the domain itself or add a wordpress blog with content. i have quite a few domains that i havent had time to work with is it best to sell at sedo or godaddy or where would you recommend?
    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by marilynbrando View Post

      wow that is impressive, is it beter when getting older domains to sell the domain itself or add a wordpress blog with content. i have quite a few domains that i havent had time to work with is it best to sell at sedo or godaddy or where would you recommend?
      thanks
      I would recommend putting a blog on the domain and trying to get even a semi-decent ranking for it before selling, and then selling it as a complete site rather than just a domain. The site will have faaaar more perceived value than just a plain old domain.

      I recommend Flippa, I tried selling domains on Sedo a year ago and they were damn-good domains that did not get the attention I expected. That's just me though, I am not very experienced with flipping to be honest.
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      • Profile picture of the author sonic74
        congrats conrad on your sale,

        jason fladien sold a membership site with 12 free subscribers for $38.000.....

        He offered to the buyer plus original video content for 1 year (12 videos or something like that)
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    • Profile picture of the author Channing
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      Originally Posted by coco james View Post

      wow that is impressive, is it beter when getting older domains to sell the domain itself or add a wordpress blog with content. i have quite a few domains that i havent had time to work with is it best to sell at sedo or godaddy or where would you recommend?
      thanks
      Sedo is a waste of time. I keep all my domains parked there *just in case* but in two years time, just in case has never occurred.

      Selling domains on Godaddy I have heard is not much better than at Sedo, so I never bothered with it.

      I've had some success selling domains on Flippa, but I've had some dismal failures selling there as well.

      But Flippa did land me some steady reseller buyers who like the kind of domains I register. They buy them from me in small bulk quantity at a discount from the prices I have listed on my website, and they resell them to end users.

      Other than that my sales have been from end users by promoting my website or by direct contact.
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  • Profile picture of the author brunom
    Great story. I have some domains lying around that are doing me almost nothing and I might pump them up and flip them when I get the chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shelton
    Conrad, you are right on about finding the one person that wants the site more than anyone else - from happy experience I know that that really works!
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    • Profile picture of the author clickstrength
      Nice work, man. I've also had success selling no-income sites. Sold one for $10k last year.

      The key is to understand (and then explain) all of the assets and attributes the site has that would be valuable to the right buyer. That's what you clearly did here, focusing on the list.

      The only question I have for you is if you ever tried to mail an offer to your list. With a 1k list, you should be able to easily pull $100 / month mailing for other people. If you're mailing for good offers and can write compelling emails, you could reasonably make triple that per month. Do that for a few months, then unload the site for even more...
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      • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
        Originally Posted by clickstrength View Post

        Nice work, man. I've also had success selling no-income sites. Sold one for $10k last year.

        The key is to understand (and then explain) all of the assets and attributes the site has that would be valuable to the right buyer. That's what you clearly did here, focusing on the list.

        The only question I have for you is if you ever tried to mail an offer to your list. With a 1k list, you should be able to easily pull $100 / month mailing for other people. If you're mailing for good offers and can write compelling emails, you could reasonably make triple that per month. Do that for a few months, then unload the site for even more...
        Hey man, honored to have an experienced site flipper comment here! I know you used to own flipwebsites.com but I think you've sinced flipped it if I remember correctly

        I totally know what you mean about utilizing the list, I just completely got sidetracked and was lazy because I wasn't into the niche and am not an experienced list marketer. I feel/felt pretty F'n stupid even telling people I had a 1k list with no income!

        I know I could have improved a lot with this site and turned it into an earner, but with me having other projects bringing in decent money I decided I wanted to get off the fence with it and just cash out quickly. May not have been the smartest move but it made sense at the time! It was more important to me to remove the distraction of it and move on to my core business model, honestly.

        Thanks again bro
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    1k is pretty good man. Solid tips too, although I'm not sure you could replicate that success every time.
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  • Profile picture of the author snginnovations
    How did you go about managing the transfer of the site and list?
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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by snginnovations View Post

      How did you go about managing the transfer of the site and list?

      I just followed the normal steps everyone does for transferring, I transferred the domain names first, then gave the buyer the files for the sites to upload to his server. I then contacted Aweber to transfer the list, which literally takes about 5 minutes.

      It's a little intimidating at first but it's pretty cut and paste stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelhenry8
    I personally congratulate you for flipping a no-income blog for $1000,this is really great piece of work which i appreciate.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxdksxx
    Congratulations I know I have a couple old dead weight sites I need to get sold. Maybe I can follow in your footsteps with this process thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author DamenRabat
      Your experience is very inspiring, especially since so many recommend that a site needs to prove a six months period of income before you can sell it for some decent cash.

      Thanks, dude!
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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by Terry Gorry View Post

      When you got people to sign up to your list did you have the message, which is quite common, "we will never rent or sell your email etc."

      If you did, did you have any reservations about selling the list?

      The reason I ask is because I have a site with a list of 1,100 subscribers and have just left them in Aweber.

      I was thinking about selling the list on it's own as I don't like writing fake, insincere messages to people about things I have little interest in..but then I thought "I can't sell this" as I told people when signing up that I would never rent or sell their name and email.

      Terry
      Hi Terry, sorry I missed this before...

      I did not have a message like that on my landing page. My advice is to keep the list attached to the website if you plan on flipping it, and just tell the buyer to reactivate the list carefully and in a way that he is providing value for a while before doing sales messages. People can always unsubscribe it they don't want your messages, so selling the list isn't much of a big deal

      Still, it's up to you. If it makes you uncomfortable I wouldn't sell it. Awesome signature by the way!
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  • Profile picture of the author Valerie DuVall
    Wow that's great - I have a bunch of old sites I am bored with - you have inspired me!
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    Congratulations, mate!

    That's a no-income site, but I assume you included the list, so, if I got it right, it's $1 per subscriber + a site that's still pulling opt-ins regularly. It was a good deal for, but not a bad deal for the buyer.


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  • Profile picture of the author WDM
    congrats. I personally would have tried to capitalize on the traffic you were getting though. I think with a small amount of effort (most likely a few hours) you could be making way more than $1000...probably per month too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    Congrats man to put time for this, amazing stuff . I need to start flipping sites
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Nice work Conrad!

      The guy that bought the sites got a great deal because not only did they get a 1000 people list in the hottest niche they also got the squeeze pages generating 100 visitors a day in that same niche.

      I'd pay 1K for that any day.

      It was nice meeting you this weekend in Raleigh. Keep in touch.

      Cheers

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      • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        Nice work Conrad!

        The guy that bought the sites got a great deal because not only did they get a 1000 people list in the hottest niche they also got the squeeze pages generating 100 visitors a day in that same niche.

        I'd pay 1K for that any day.

        It was nice meeting you this weekend in Raleigh. Keep in touch.

        Cheers

        Jan
        Jan! You're the man. I probably learned more from you this last weekend in NC than I did from anyone else there, including the speakers. We'll definitely keep in touch, you're one of the few people I have met in IM in a while that I am motivated to work with. Thanks again
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  • Congratulations that is fantastic!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Bykov
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    Congrats, well done! And thank you for sharing the tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    Its cool sharing your results.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Congrats ... way to unload a site that you don't want.
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  • Profile picture of the author cerno
    Congratulations on a nice sale, keeping the bids in limbo is a great tip when they are not moving the price significantly higher. It seems you had the perfect setup with only a 500 spread and two hidden bids, the buyer had to assume there was a good chance of another buyer hitting the buy now price.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrktxprt
    Congratz! Truly a motivational story.
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  • Profile picture of the author wmguild
    Thanks for the tips. I don't know how many sites I've let fall by the wayside in the last several years LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    Congrats man!

    I just got my first site up and will hopefully have it sold soon. Great tips... you'd probably be a good copywriter lol

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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by Dean Jackson View Post

      Congrats man!

      I just got my first site up and will hopefully have it sold soon. Great tips... you'd probably be a good copywriter lol

      Dean

      Hey Dean, thanks for the comments. It's funny because I was just at the Warrior Event in NC and I was talking to Brad Gosse, and he told me that he bought a sales letter from you that tripled his conversions! I hadn't heard of you before but when I saw your comment just now it clicked for me

      Maybe I'll look you up for a sales letter soon!
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      • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
        Originally Posted by Conrad Stuart View Post

        Hey Dean, thanks for the comments. It's funny because I was just at the Warrior Event in NC and I was talking to Brad Gosse, and he told me that he bought a sales letter from you that tripled his conversions! I hadn't heard of you before but when I saw your comment just now it clicked for me

        Maybe I'll look you up for a sales letter soon!
        It's a smaller world than I thought!

        I thanked him for the name-dropping

        Let me know whenever man, I'm going to be away soon so I'll add you to my friends list

        All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author veenafurtado
    Great, thanks for sharing this -
    I definitely did enjoy reading it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ricoramiro
    Congrats on the sale. You mentioned something about rambling but I don't think you rambled. You had something to say and you said it.

    The good thing is we all learned something from it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Nadim Hussain
    Thanks to the OP for sharing your experience. The tip on not approving bids in order to create buyer suspense was a nice little nugget which I'm sure will come in useful for a lot of warriors!
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  • Congrats on your success
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Nice one, it's good to know site flipping is still profitable
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  • Profile picture of the author drazz01
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    Thanks to the OP for sharing tips, Nice work.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZILLIONAIRE
    I have a two years old website and i was thinking of letting the domain expire and just delete the website! but your post changed my mind. i guess i will give it some minor love and then try to flip it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    That is just so cool. Yeah the fact that you have made more than what you expect is a great feeling. Now will you want to take on more websites like this and sell for a better price?

    Andrea
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    • Profile picture of the author Conrad Stuart
      Originally Posted by Andrea Wilson View Post

      That is just so cool. Yeah the fact that you have made more than what you expect is a great feeling. Now will you want to take on more websites like this and sell for a better price?

      Andrea
      Hi Andrea, I definitely plan to do this again, but with a better strategy.

      I can see that certain types of authority sites (authority Adsense sites and affiliate sites) can bring in 5-figure sale prices once they hit a certain level of income. They are not particularly hard to build, and you can completely outsource the creation of a great site for 1k, get it to just $300-500 a month (pretty easy) and flip it for probably 10-15k or more. I think it's a great investment model for someone who could pull it off well, so I'm interested in trying it.

      At the very least you can invest larger amounts of money into more quality authority-style sites, knowing that at the very least you can make your money back from a Flippa sale if you need to. Your investment is kind of guaranteed

      By the way, thanks to all the commenters, I appreciate it
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  • Profile picture of the author salmanbaig
    Congrats bro ... on your first sale !! BTW great tips
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  • Profile picture of the author terrencewan
    Wow! Congrats! Well Done.
    Other then blog, you can create
    websites to sell too.
    The sky is the limit.
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  • Profile picture of the author hmpargi
    That was very good information about flippa. I have lot of crap sites. I will try to sell dem up
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Very impressive! Well done brother! Congratulations to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author krjewellers
    What I took from this is that it is very important to find the right buyer, sell the positive features of the website, be thorough and courteous to potential buyers. I like these tips
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Great ranking and organic traffic can often substitute for income when flipping sites, and this example just drives the point home. The main key here is to highlight the benefits and monetary equivalence of this, so that there is high perceived value in the eyes of the prospective buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    I don't know the niche very well, but 1,000 subscribers and a site that ranks on a few weight loss keywords seems like pretty good value at $1 per subscriber, right? I'm sure those first few emails are gonna be a little rough, but if the list gets narrowed down and there are some buyers in there I'm sure there will be some value.

    Good sale...and probably a good buy for whoever picked it up!
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmadbasyir
    Congratulation.. I have been one year in Flippa, but never sold a website for 1K...
    Now, I'm getting new motivation from you that flipping a site is still worth ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author johnice
    I have a website that is ranked no.4 in google for the keyword. It's on sale in Flippa and the auction is closing in 8 Hours time. There seems to be little interest sadly.

    Anyway go to Flippa and look out for the featured listing called 1st page of Google $300 per month Hot sniper site

    That's my site
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucas92
    Congratz! and thanks alot for the tips! will be helpfull to me in the future
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    well done and thanks for the tips!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michelle.
    well done, I have a few EMDs that I've been sitting on, might just auction them off now that you've reminded me...
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneZenMaster
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    Congratz bro, that's pretty sweet!
    I think sometimes buyers just look at how the site's laid out and the quality of it and jjust buy because they can't bother do a similar one by themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahmat
    Greatly appreciate your advice #3. Great job!
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  • Profile picture of the author cripperz
    your post gave me new motivations. i love creating websites as a hobby on different topics etc. Maybe rather than let the effort rot and waste, selling it was another option. Hmm thanks OP!
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