Oh my, is this really the beginning of the end

15 years ago

Originally Posted by research

Oh my, is this really the beginning of the end . . .

Is this going to shake up the Internet Marketing World.

For one reason or another, looks like many folk are jumping off the Facebook bankwagon. I guess they are not getting the results they had expected or maybe its not what it is cracked up to be.

Where are all these folk going ??? I don't know, wish I did.

Maybe Google will tell me.

LOL. Great thread. Compelling and rich. :rolleyes:

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MatthewNeer

15 years ago

BS.

Facebook and any other PPC network is just as good as it always has been. You just gotta know how to use it.

But if ya really think its failing, why dont you try and go after some 2nd tier ppc engines like Stumble Upon of Ask.

But hey, ummm... GET EM?!

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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

Facebook is "dying" for everyone - not just marketers. But people still use it to advertise/promotions... I do

And I bet many of us on a daily basis.

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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

Heya Mike, how you doin'?

Personally I see less and less people in Facebook, maybe it's just a "Portuguese thingy"

But there was a report a couple days/weeks ago showing some (big??) traffic losses in some countries. If we think about it, it makes sense: people are getting use to it, and it comes the time of saturation.

Interesting times ahead.

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

I don't really agree with that first part - I think FB is going through some growing pains, but it's core audience, which are non-commercial users seems to be as strong as ever.

Sure it's beginning to peak in countries like the US and UK, but from what I've been reading is may well hit $100B when going public.

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DanielKeller 15 years ago

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

Sure it's beginning to peak in countries like the US and UK, but from what I've been reading is may well hit $100B when going public.

They just did go public with that amount didn't they? That's pretty crazy.. It was some college student or something like that who started it, right?
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Nick Bykov

Banned 15 years ago

They expected too much from Facebook. It didn't work out. You should know 1) how to get traffic from Facebook and 2) what to do with this traffic.

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Dean Jackson

15 years ago

I never jumped on the FB bandwagon... however, I do know some folks are getting good traffic from it.

Don't be so gullible about what people tell you... test stuff out for yourself before making judgment

Dean

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Michael Silvester 15 years ago

Yep,

Facebook is dying...Just look at these stats...
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Nadim Hussain 15 years ago

IMHO Facebook still has some mileage left in it. Sure there will be saturation in the western world but you have to take into account that there are still many places around the world that lag behind western trends and still want a piece of the action.

Also, I'm sure the people behind Facebook are smart enough to adapt to what people want. Too much time/money has been spent for them to just sit back and allow Facebook to wither away. And even if the marketing aspect of Facebook goes into decline, there are (and will always be) plenty of other stable, profitable sources of traffic that we can tap into.
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Kay King

15 years ago

The initial fascination with Facebook (and Twitter) was the ability to connect with anyone....anywhere...any time.

Now many folks are realizing they don't want to connect with "everyone" - they aren't interested in "everyone" - and they are pulling back into groups that are family/friends or people who share the same interests. Facebook is becoming "niche book" and I think the trend will continue.

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research

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

The initial fascination with Facebook (and Twitter) was the ability to connect with anyone....anywhere...any time.

Now many folks are realizing they don't want to connect with "everyone" - they aren't interested in "everyone" - and they are pulling back into groups that are family/friends or people who share the same interests. Facebook is becoming "niche book" and I think the trend will continue.

kay

Okay Kay . . . Looks like you could be on the ball.

I can't beleive everybody wants to know everyones stuff. Much, much better to focus on the areas that hold the most interest.

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mattlaclear

15 years ago

I quit visiting Facebook after my Farmtown crops all went bad one weekend. That game had me by the short hairs for sure. The only way I could stop myself from playing it was to delete my FB account. How that plays into this conversation I have no idea. I have never even considered using FB for marketing however. It just seemed to Myspacey to do so.

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Johnny Optimo 15 years ago

If you can incentivize it, FB is still a friggen awesome place to build a list
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- Jackson62 15 years ago
  
  I just don't think FB was ever a great place to find people to market to.
  
  I never had any success anyways. To me it always lacked the commercial activity that profitable IM requires...
  
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- Kay King 15 years ago
  
  after my Farmtown crops all went bad one weekend
  
  Drought - or flooding?
  
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- rts2271 15 years ago
  
  It's the great internet pendulum.
  
  It swings one way then it swings the other then it swings back then it swings another. Bigger and bigger ad groups will buy more and more ppc and cpm oversaturating the prices and driving the market prices of keywords through the roof. Facebook advertising will be the same saturated under performing monstrosity that is Adwords
  
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- azmanar 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Johnny Optimo
  
  If you can incentivize it, FB is still a friggen awesome place to build a list
  
  Spot on !
  
  I'm doing just that.
  
  With regards to FB PPC, I decided not to jump in because of the
  narrow commercial-intend traffic in there.
  
  Probably body-building and dating offers would work with FB PPC.
  
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mattlaclear 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke

:rolleyes:

Now THAT is funny.

Considering when you Google "Matt LaClear" there are quite a few mentions of you as a myspace spammer.

You mean that one weekend I posted something 5 years ago regarding Myspace? You take one instance from 5 years ago and think what you just posted is relevant? Why not let Warriors know the real reason you posted that?

I would spend time looking up your name on Google but...

Edit: Quite a few? It was one post on one marketing forum in which I offered to help a group of people on Myspace marketing. At the time I was building 3k new list subscribers a week. So what you said was a lie in order to make myself look bad to Warriors. So I cannot wait to hear your reasoning for lying on an open forum like you just did.
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Boston Joe

15 years ago

Many people go about promoting on Facebook the wrong way. It should be used to build customer loyalty and sales over the long haul, not just for a quick buck.

They will build a fan page and blast promotions in nearly every post and wonder why their page won't go viral and why no one will buy from them.

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inhwanie

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Boston Joe

Many people go about promoting on Facebook the wrong way. It should be used to build customer loyalty and sales over the long haul, not just for a quick buck.

They will build a fan page and blast promotions in nearly every post and wonder why their page won't go viral and why no one will buy from them.

agreeeeeeeed. I guess some people have success with using facebook but unless you make a fan page that can just draw millions of people and is product based (like victoria secret), I doubt it can make people money quickly or as steadily as they claim it does.

Facebook is a social network and it functions best when you use it for its intended purpose. It may not make direct sales but you can definitely use it gain other values like branding/loyalty.

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Jeremy Banks

15 years ago

Originally Posted by research

Oh my, is this really the beginning of the end . . .

Where are all these folk going ??? I don't know, wish I did.

OUTSIDE!!!

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peteranderson874

15 years ago

Facebook still works, you just need to know how to properly use it. Although I'm seeing less people in Facebook nowadays compared to its prime time.

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MichaelHiles

15 years ago

The universe is dying as a result of particle degradation at the sub-atomic level.

All hope is lost.

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Cool Hand Luke 15 years ago

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

The universe is dying as a result of particle degradation at the sub-atomic level.

All hope is lost.

I'm hoping someone will put out a WSO about how to deal with it. :p
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Matthew NY

15 years ago

People log on to Facebook to look at pictures, talk to friends, and socialize. People do not log onto Facebook to buy things or snoop around advertisements. That has always been my take on why using Facebook as a marketing tool is a rough method.

I know it does work in many cases. But, I think that this late in the game, you are more likely to lose money than make money.

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research 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jim Thomas

I believe most of the folk are jumping over to Twitter?

Oh really . . . perhaps thats the way to go.

Time will tell.

Meanwhile why not have a peek at this:

The trouble with Facebook | Editor's Corner - Yahoo! News
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azmanar 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jim Thomas

I believe most of the folk are jumping over to Twitter?

Jim,

I would say Twitter is good as a part of a set of action plans. (Free Methods)

Why not combine whatever social media together to funnel traffic to offers and list building.

I bet a lot of people know this already but let me highlight for the benefit of newcomers to IM.

Twitter + FB + EZA + Web 2.0 + Google + YouTube + RSS + Social Bookmark + Forums + Groups => powerful organic IM tactic

Let's translate this formula into action in Steps:
1. Select an offer to promote or whatever goals
2. Design and write copy for the landing page
3. Make a Video and embed in the same page
4. Ping for RSS and SE to pick-up
5. Get the page indexed by G & other SEs
6. Submit to EZA & other directories
7. Let EZA and Directories TWEET & email to subscribers
8. Announce to FB friends
9. Promote in Stumble Upon
10. Spark interest in Yahoo Groups & Forums

Even though it looks massive but will only take 2 or 3 days focused
for an Offer or for whatever objectives of the landing page. Results
may start trickling in after 4 or 5 days onwards. Then the flood.

Done this and seen the results. More organic in building back-links, PR,
traffic and credibility ( branding to some ).

Prefer it that way than spamming those spaces with 50 Articles, 50
Videos and 500 Forum Profiles.

Of course, the fastest route is still PPC & PPV in targeting people with
commercial intend.
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gskesavan

15 years ago

Twitter seems to be more professional than Facebook, especially for marketers. But Facebook will not die. It is now a billion dollar business and I'm pretty sure they will come up with something in the recent future to stay in the game.

In India business owners have just started knowing the value of Social Media Marketing (60% are aware, rest are not). And We have the population to keep facebook growing.

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brunom

15 years ago

It will die, sure, but not for now. At all.

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Fazal Mayar

15 years ago

FB is starting to decrease in popularity in US and Canada but it is still pretty strong Worldwide. As for marketing on facebook, I think its not that easy

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Thaddaeus T. Hogg

15 years ago

Oh my, is this really the beginning of the end

Well now, ole Harold Camping said it was but it shore don't look like it was! If you are wantin my proliferated opinion, I'm thankin it is more the end of the beginning! I could be wrong though!!!

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asimbawany

15 years ago

I never really thought that facebook ad traffic would ever be as good as traffic from search PPC, be it adwords, yahoo/bing or any other SE.

people go to facebook to socialize, have fun not to find what to buy, while they go to the SEs for the sole reason of FINDING YOUR SITE. they go their not to stay but be redirected to a site. in contrast, they go to facebook to stay their. You're taking them away from having fun and trying to get them into buy mode.

of course people are making a killing with facebook ads, but that doesn't mean everyone can. There is a learning curve to facebook just as there is to other PPC methods and I think its way easier to sell to someone who is already in buy mode rather than sell to someone who is in "lets see what my friends are up to" mode...

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IMWinner 15 years ago

With all this social networks coming up, on can always wonder the next one to come up what will it offer? Facebook is mildly commercial as compared to LinkedIn but still it has its followers.
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majay

15 years ago

FB is for sure dying a slow death.most of the individuals who go to facebook do so for fun or to pass time-wouldn't count on it for traffic building

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joshcoffy

15 years ago

Although Facebook is becoming the new Myspace, it will eventually be left in the dust when a new social Top Dog comes in. However, it is still a great place for marketing! I have a friend that use it's PPC and have enrolled 59 reps in several months doing it!

--Im actually about to start doing it! lol

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