Will people buy good blogger blogs at flippa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sdouravs

Hello,
I am new to IM and have not made a single penny yet through IM. I earn my living providing services of web designing, header design, fanpage design, ebook cover design etc. I came in the field of IM to earn some passive money. Not dreaming to make millions but anything to buy my bread and pay my bills.
After roaming around in WF for 3-4 days the job of website flipping seems lucrative to me but right now I don't have the financial flawlessness to buy domain and hosting space. Setting a wordpress on it and doing seo, twiter marketing and fb marketing can be handled by me so no need to outsource that part.

My question is if I build a blogspot blog with good posts written by me, monetize it with clickbank affiliates and build some reader base can I sell it in flippa.

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EDIT: I didn't read your question well. I didn't realize you had asked about doing this on blogspot. That's a big no-no that I would never recommend.

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

I wouldn't pay a dime for a blog hosted on a free platform that could be taken down by Google in a heartbeat.

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Hamida Harland

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sdouravs

My question is if I build a blogspot blog with good posts written by me, monetize it with clickbank affiliates and build some reader base can I sell it in flippa.

I wouldn't advise it. I can't imagine anyone would buy a Blogger blog, no matter how good it was. I certainly wouldn't.

Why not do the same thing, but on your own domain and hosting?

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candoit2

13 years ago

Last time I listed a site there was a code we had to add to verify ownership of the site.

So I doubt you`ll be able to list it.

Aaron

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Richard Van 13 years ago

guitarjosh - Absolutely. That's the whole basis of flippa.. and the site gets a tremendous amount of traffic every hour of every day.

Nonsense.

How can you sell something that doesn't belong to you and can be removed without any notice from Blogger at anytime?

Imagine buying a blogspot blog and Blogger deleting it a week later.

If Flippa do allow that, they must be flipping loopy.

In your credit Guitarjosh, you do at least recommend he gets his own hosting and domain though.
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Dash Evra

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

Last time I listed a site there was a code we had to add to verify ownership of the site.

So I doubt you`ll be able to list it.

Aaron

I've sold numerous blogger blogs on Flippa before. I was using my own domain of course. Adding Flippa's verification code was not a problem at all...

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Nonsense.

How can you sell something that doesn't belong to you and can be removed without any notice from Blogger at anytime?

Imagine buying a blogspot blog and Blogger deleting it a week later.

If Flippa do allow that, they must be flipping loopy.

In your credit Guitarjosh, you do at least recommend he gets his own hosting and domain though.

And blogger blogs can easily be transferred to wordpess, keeping the same domain name, the posts etc... So, if the new owner is not a fan of blogger, that's not a problem either..

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Tsnyder

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dash Evra

I've sold numerous blogger blogs on Flippa before. I was using my own domain of course. Adding Flippa's verification code was not a problem at all...

And blogger blogs can easily be transferred to wordpess, so, if the new owner is not a fan of blogger, that's not a problem either..

Adding the code is easy enough but representing you
own something that you don't actually own is fraud.

Not accusing you... just sayin'

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Dash Evra 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

Adding the code is easy enough but representing you
own something that you don't actually own is fraud.

Not accusing you... just sayin'

I didn't know there was a rule against it. I always mention in my auctions that the sites are being hosted on Blogger. The buyers usually say something along the line of "That's not a big deal. I'll just move it to wordpress."
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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

As the saying goes, "nemo dat quod non habet". :rolleyes:
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- DireStraits 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  As the saying goes, "nemo dat quod non habet". :rolleyes:
  
  Fer a min I fort dat you'd turned inta sam kinda East Landan gangsta or summin, b8b, no wot am sayin, yo? Booya. :p
  
  But now I know better.
  
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  Richard Van 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DireStraits
  
  Fer a min I fort dat you'd turned inta sam kinda East Landan gangsta or summin, b8b, no wot am sayin, yo? Booya. :p
  
  But now I know better.
  
  Oh yeah Mike, all the Gangsters round here say "Yo booya" to each other!
  
  That made me chuckle, I had visions of Ray Winstone going round saying it.
  
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  DireStraits 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Richard Van
  
  Oh yeah Mike, all the Gangsters round here say "Yo booya" to each other!
  
  That made me chuckle, I had visions of Ray Winstone going round saying it.
  
  Dat dude got skillz, though, innit, Richman.
  
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  Richard Van 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DireStraits
  
  Dat dude got skillz, though, innit, Richman.
  
  E's naffink wiv aat me tho. E's jast a big softie at 'art.
  
  Gawd bless im.
  
  Av a nice wan.
  
  Innit. Geezer.
  
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Slyknight

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

Adding the code is easy enough but representing you
own something that you don't actually own is fraud.

Not accusing you... just sayin'

Why wouldn't someone own their blogger blog if it's on their own domain? Just curious on how this works..

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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Slyknight

Why wouldn't someone own their blogger blog if it's on their own domain?

Blogger no longer supports FTP.

There are still some Blogger blogs on people's own domains, but they haven't been updated for a year or so (not unless they've been transferred into Wordpress, or whatever, in which case they're no longer "a Blogger blog").

Blogger blogs, nowadays, can be hosted only at Blogspot, under Blogspot's terms of service (they change quite often, Blogspot are notoriously idiosyncratic and inconsistent with how they interpret them), they're not safe or reliable (as hundreds of threads here attest to), and although you can "own" the content, without owning the site itself, it isn't "yours" in any meaningful sense.

Having your own domain-name redirected to it (as many people do) doesn't make it "on your own domain-name". It's still a Blogspot blog. It's still on a blogspot sub-domain, even if that name doesn't appear in readers' browser-bars. Blogspot still owns the site. It can still disappear in the night because they decide an affiliate-link is "spammy" or "generating traffic to another site", as they have done so many times in the past. Especially recently, and especially where internet marketing's involved.
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VanessaB

13 years ago

I find this topic so intriguing, mainly because I remember the mad rush of 'flipping squidoo lenses.'

They aren't 'owned' either, yet they had a market... so why don't Blogger blogs?

Leaving out "Flippa" and it's TOS...(there are other markets for selling sites)

Two things I can point out:
Blogger blogs are easily backed up with a one click export. So it's relatively easy to sell/buy the files.

Blogger blogs can be uploaded to self hosted TLD's.

This is just observation and thoughts. I use freee Blogger blogs all the time and I back them up, so I don't worry about Google deleting them, I'll just reupload them. I protect any SE rankings from backlinks by running them all through a generic tld, subdomain 302 redirect. I also don't rely on nor put any time or effort into 'search engine' rankings... so I worry little about them in the event that Blogspot should delete my blog.

On a final note, all things work 'in their proper place and function.' Blogger has 'integrated' with Adsense and Amazon. They have made it so you just input your affiliate ID and the monetization options in Blogger do the rest for you... obviously they have a vested interest in the Adsense, and probably Amazon too, so if your Blog is making them money, they're not going to be as hot to trot to delete it as they would be if you were sending your visitors to a Clickbank product that offers them no financial gain.

Blogger gets a bad rap (IMO it's far superior to that crappy Squidoo) but I'm a big fan of Blogger, and as I said, 'used properly' it can be powerful.

As far as flipping them for profit though, I think the real roadblock is that WP sites have so much more to offer as there are just so many more plugins available that will do things that Blogger has no 'gadgets' to do.

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Dash Evra

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DanielleS

I find this topic so intriguing, mainly because I remember the mad rush of 'flipping squidoo lenses.'

They aren't 'owned' either, yet they had a market... so why don't Blogger blogs?

Leaving out "Flippa" and it's TOS...(there are other markets for selling sites)
-Dani

Was just about to point that out. Thank you.

So, I am the author, editor, designer etc... of a blogger site and if I no longer want it, it's unethical to accept payment from someone who wants those powers over the site for his own gain? That's just gibberish.

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ladywriter 13 years ago

Originally Posted by DanielleS

Blogger gets a bad rap (IMO it's far superior to that crappy Squidoo)
-Dani

Completely agree, squidoo looks like a big mess to me.
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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by DanielleS

I find this topic so intriguing, mainly because I remember the mad rush of 'flipping squidoo lenses.'

They aren't 'owned' either, yet they had a market... so why don't Blogger blogs?

Squidoo allows the transfer of Squidoo lenses. Simple.

Originally Posted by DanielleS

On a final note, all things work 'in their proper place and function.' Blogger has 'integrated' with Adsense and Amazon. They have made it so you just input your affiliate ID and the monetization options in Blogger do the rest for you... obviously they have a vested interest in the Adsense, and probably Amazon too, so if your Blog is making them money, they're not going to be as hot to trot to delete it as they would be if you were sending your visitors to a Clickbank product that offers them no financial gain.

This is nonsense. They delete Blogger blogs by the thousands. They deleted the Blogger blog that was #1 in Google for the term Make Money Online without so much as a sorry.

Many people here have started threads about their Blogger blogs that they spent years on were gone ... deleted. Permanently.

If you had any links pointing to those blogs, those are now gone also. The OP was not talking about a blogger blog that was self-hosted. He indicated he did not have money for hosting and domains, so what he was asking was about blogspot blogs on Google's hosting that Google can do with as they please.

Originally Posted by DanielleS

Blogger gets a bad rap (IMO it's far superior to that crappy Squidoo) but I'm a big fan of Blogger, and as I said, 'used properly' it can be powerful.

As far as flipping them for profit though, I think the real roadblock is that WP sites have so much more to offer as there are just so many more plugins available that will do things that Blogger has no 'gadgets' to do.

-Dani

The bigger problem with flipping them is trying to sell something that you do not own.

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Dash Evra

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Squidoo allows the transfer of Squidoo lenses. Simple.

So does blogger. It has a feature that allows you to switch the blog to someone else's blogger account.

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dash Evra

So does blogger. It has a feature that allows you to switch the blog to someone else's blogger account.

Then selling it shouldn't be a problem somewhere other than Flippa if anyone actually would want to buy a blogger blog. I still wouldn't pay anything for a blog hosted on a free platform.

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Dash Evra

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Then selling it shouldn't be a problem somewhere other than Flippa if anyone actually would want to buy a blogger blog. I still wouldn't pay anything for a blog hosted on a free platform.

Thanks for finally seeing my point.

Well, I've never had a problem with blogger or selling it. Like I said before, the new buyer can simply move it to wordpress. It takes less than 30 minutes...

Originally Posted by yukon

I own a few older blogspot blogs that make very steady income.

My question is, why would anyone give up 100% free money, no hosting or domain renewals each year. I havn't updated those blogs in at least a year & they still make the same free money.

I also have self hosted Wordpress sites on Hostgator, just saying why give up a steady stream of free money (blogspot).

The advertising method I am using requires me to repeat the tasks every week or so. Otherwise, the site will RAPIDLY start to lose traffic every day. Meaning, the amount of traffic (hence profit) the site can generate is limited. So, it's more profitable to build the site up for two, three months then flip it for 7x-12x it's monthly revenue then start the process again.

P.S. I mention to my buyers that they need to keep advertising it if they want to keep seeing the traffic.

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VanessaB

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Squidoo allows the transfer of Squidoo lenses. Simple.

This is nonsense. They delete Blogger blogs by the thousands. They deleted the Blogger blog that was #1 in Google for the term Make Money Online without so much as a sorry.

Many people here have started threads about their Blogger blogs that they spent years on were gone ... deleted. Permanently.

If you had any links pointing to those blogs, those are now gone also. The OP was not talking about a blogger blog that was self-hosted. He indicated he did not have money for hosting and domains, so what he was asking was about blogspot blogs on Google's hosting that Google can do with as they please.

The bigger problem with flipping them is trying to sell something that you do not own.

"Make Money Online" is the operative phrase here. I read that blog. I don't recall it promoting Adsense or Amazon products. I've been using Blogger blogs for 5-6 years... always with Adsense, and most recently adding the Amazon model. The one and only blog that Blogger has EVER deleted from me, was a 'make money online' blog, with no Adsense, and no Amazon.

I missed where he said he had no money for hosting and domains. However, as I said, IF, those backlinks are run to a generic TLD which 302 redirects to the Blogger, blog, then, no, those links are not 'gone'. Because if the site is backed up, you reupload it, and then you just change the end url of the 302 redirect... all backlinks going to the 'generic' tld will then forward to whatever new domain you now change it too.

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sbucciarel Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

Last time I listed a site there was a code we had to add to verify ownership of the site.

So I doubt you`ll be able to list it.

Aaron

This is true. Unless you could upload that verification file, you won't be able to list it. I know that it is against Flippa's TOS to sell facebook pages and other pages that you do not own, and blogger is a site that you do not own.
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Tsnyder

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sdouravs

Hello,

My question is if I build a blogspot blog with good posts written by me, monetize it with clickbank affiliates and build some reader base can I sell it in flippa.

Thanks in advance to all of you.
TC

Despite guitarjosh's apparent enthusiasm the answer is you
might find an unsuspecting newbie to buy a Blogger blog but
I wouldn't base my business plan on that slim possibility.

Why not just get a cheap HostGator account and start building
and flipping Word Press blogs?

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salmanbaig

13 years ago

If I were the buyer, I would never buy a blogger blog !! So my advice is to invest few $$ and start a self hosted wordpress blog ... Promote it and sell it off !!

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dsouravs

13 years ago

Yes warriors I got you.
Flippa verification code can be added to blogger.

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andybeveridge

13 years ago

It's all been said above really. How can you sell something that you do not own. Also why pay money for anything that can be taken down overnight.

Just get yourself some hosting. Do your keyword research and build your blog. Add some targeted articles and monetise it. Give it a few months adding regular content. At the end of that time you will have something that someone may place some value on.

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dsouravs

13 years ago

Thanks for your feedbacks.
The other day in WF I read a successful IMer claiming huge success by selling squidoo pages, knols, weebly sites and wetpaint sites.

Anyway with so many people's feedback I think I am able to understand what people wants.

TC

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guitarjosh

13 years ago

lol... this was simply an oops on my part. I didn't read the op's original thread well. I never noticed the "blogspot" part of his question.

To clarify.. I would never in a bazillion years recommend that.

My bad!

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dsouravs

13 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

lol... this was simply an oops on my part. I didn't read the op's original thread well. I never noticed the "blogspot" part of his question.

To clarify.. I would never in a bazillion years recommend that.

My bad!

.......oouch

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ladywriter

13 years ago

Just looked up something with Google, and saw a .tk in the results.

Why not just get a .tk or a .co.cc instead of a blogger?

Or is it fundamentally the same thing (you don't own it, etc. etc. etc.)?

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Dash Evra

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kstark

Just looked up something with Google, and saw a .tk in the results.

Why not just get a .tk or a .co.cc instead of a blogger?

Or is it fundamentally the same thing (you don't own it, etc. etc. etc.)?

It seems like on Flippa, not having a .com, .net, .org extension makes the site loses value. So, it's a better choice to pay 10 bucks for one of them.

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ladywriter 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dash Evra

It seems like on Flippa, not having a .com, .net, .org extension makes the site loses value. So, it's a better choice to pay 10 bucks for one of them.

Ah....I can see that.
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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

I own a few older blogspot blogs that make very steady income.

My question is, why would anyone give up 100% free money, no hosting or domain renewals each year. I havn't updated those blogs in at least a year & they still make the same free money.

I also have self hosted Wordpress sites on Hostgator, just saying why give up a steady stream of free money (blogspot).

BTW, the hobby niche does pretty good on blogspot + Adsense.

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VanessaB

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I own a few older blogspot blogs that make very steady income.

My question is, why would anyone give up 100% free money, no hosting or domain renewals each year. I havn't updated those blogs in at least a year & they still make the same free money.

I also have self hosted Wordpress sites on Hostgator, just saying why give up a steady stream of free money (blogspot).

BTW, the hobby niche does pretty good on blogspot + Adsense.

This is precisely why I find always find this subject so intriguing. I have never attempted to sell my blogger blogs for the exact reason you state above.

But I could see where someone with that much common sense (coupled with the asset protection strategy of the 302 redirect) would find value in it if I were to sell it. (Of course the hitch there is that I would have to sell the generic TLD that the 302 redirect is running through with the blog... which doesn't suit me as I just use one and set up subdomains on it for each niche, then run the redirect through the subdomain...)

So if one were going to do use this for 'flipping' (and someone in this thread has already mentioned that they have in fact sold Blogger blogs), it would be necessary to have at the very least a .info tld for each niche...

Of course, .info extensions tend to decrease perceived value (regardless of how much documentation has shown that the ext has no effect on SE rankings) but since it's already perceived of 'having little value,' due to the 'Blogger' stigma, I don't think it would be all that harmful to the sale of the person willing to buy it.

One of my Blogger blogs has a PR 0, so someone might buy that just for the PR 0 back link.

People bought those Squidoo lenses for that, the traffic, etc.. knowing full well that the 'site' was always at risk.

-Dani

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stcaffeine

13 years ago

To answer OP's question, yes you can sell a blogspot. No you won't get enough. Figure whatever effort you put in will be some large % devalued by the platform.

Buy the domain.

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