If you had $40k to invest in IM, how would you invest it?

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Hi guys, if you had around $40,000 to invest in IM, how would you invest it?

I'll be getting a redundancy package, and I need to start thinking about investing.

There's the safe option of a term deposit account, but that barely keeps you ahead of inflation.... I know nothing about the stock market, and would not gamble on something I know nothing about. I have a friend who lost big time on the stock market, he let a bank take care of his portfolio...

I've been studying IM for over 6 months now, and have a pretty good grasp of the basics.

The first thing that came to mind was to buy some internet real estate, something that generates a monthly income and is pretty future proof would be good.... so, can I please get some feedback.

Thanks.

Nothing is easy as it's looks. Be extra careful.
The wrong move an your 40k go down the drain before you know it.
I'm not trying to scare you or being negative. Just extra cautious.
Start with an investment not grater than 1k and see how it goes.
In other words...One step at the time.

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Johnny Optimo 13 years ago

Be careful with your money

but I would buy a portfolio of sites in a great niche that have proven income streams and that I know I could improve drastically, and monetize better than the previous owner.

I'd then set up the network to produce a huge mailing list and dominate with that, and then hire people to fill the sites with a ton of great content.

If I were you though, I'd just start one at a time, buy a site for a few thousand, work on it a bit.. get each site profitable to a level you need and then get set up with the next one. And websites really aren't future proof, they need to be maintained to keep/maximize their value - and that can be a lot of work.

Also, find a handful of people through forums who can do good work for you: link building, writing, forum posting, etc.
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13 years ago

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swilliams09

13 years ago

If I had 40k I know how I would invest it into my business personally. It sounds like you haven't decided what your business is yet. I would sit on it until I was very very sure about exactly what my business is, my game plan to grow it and my ability to achieve it.

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John Romaine

13 years ago

$40,000 can go very quickly in IM. I know because I think Ive almost done it at least 3 times over.

Set yourself a threshold, a limit, and an expenditure budget.

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cheilman

13 years ago

If I had $40k to spend. I would figure out what I wanted to do in the IM world and find a good coach/guru that actually is making money and find out how you can sign up to learn from them and how much it costs. Invest the rest in what you need to start your business the coach helps you start.

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JennSpencerIM

13 years ago

I'd look on flippa.com for a website that was generating monthly income and spend no more than $30k on 3 sites, then use the rest to increase traffic for it.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JennSpencerIM

I'd look on flippa.com for a website that was generating monthly income and spend no more than $30k on 3 sites, then use the rest to increase traffic for it.

now that's good stuff!

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Shawn Anderson

13 years ago

Whether you have 40k, 100k or 1k there is one thing that will make or break you.

Make sure you have either a proven system to follow or a niche you KNOW converts. When you find one or the other, scale the crap out of it. Milk it until it is dry before you move onto the next.

Who knows, you may not even need to move on TO the next!

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thedog

13 years ago

Thanks for the replies guys. Well, I'm focusing on amazon and adsense. I still haven't hit pay dirt, but I know it's in the post.

I think once I've mastered these, I can then start to use the money to build more. In the meantime I could just leave it in a deposit account.

I have around 6 sites at the moment, none of them earning anything really... maybe I should invest in some automation tools like seo nuke x and the like.

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Conrad Stuart

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Thanks for the replies guys. Well, I'm focusing on amazon and adsense. I still haven't hit pay dirt, but I know it's in the post.

I think once I've mastered these, I can then start to use the money to build more. In the meantime I could just leave it in a deposit account.

I have around 6 sites at the moment, none of them earning anything really... maybe I should invest in some automation tools like seo nuke x and the like.

You posted this the other day and I responded there, so I'll expand on what I wrote on that post.

*IF* I was you, I would NOT buy preexisting sites on flippa. It is too easy to outsource the creation and promotion of authority sites these days with just a little time and a little capital. Besides, it will take you at least a year to recoup what you spent on the site if you buy a preexisting site. I'm not that patient.

Authority Adsense sites ALWAYS sell well for a great price on Flippa, if it is a quality site in a great niche with solid earnings.

Here is what I would do:

Pick a great Adsense niche, high search volume, high CPC.

Spend $500-1000 on articles for the site. Real, high-quality articles.

Spend another $500 on outsourced backlinks.

Reserve another $500 for outsourcing anything else that may need doing to the site, be it outsourced backlinking, more articles or whatever.

So, you've spent about $1500-2000 on a kickass authority site in a high volume niche with high CPC. It would be impossible to not be getting at least 100-200 visitors per day and making at least several hundred dollars per month from a site like that.

Let's say the site starts making $500/month. You hold it for 1 year and flip it for 15X earnings after the year is up.

500X12=6000
500X15=7500
total invested=1500
total earned=13,500
profit= 12,000

And those numbers are kind of low, I know me personally I could get a site to 1000/month in earnings and flip it for 20-30k with a similar investment.

With the outsourcing, you could put as little as like 10-15 hours into the whole project and make a CRAZY ROI.

Give me 1K and I'll help you get it going. Niche selection, outsourcing help, whatever. I'm serious

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Annette White

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JennSpencerIM

I'd look on flippa.com for a website that was generating monthly income and spend no more than $30k on 3 sites, then use the rest to increase traffic for it.

Not a bad idea, but you have to understand the numbers.. You have to be sure that the site can generate the money they state that it does. 30K is much to invest at one time. They have sites that are a lot cheaper.. You have to learn the IM or have have some understanding, because there are a lot of failure before success and that is anything you do in life..So spend time and learn the business. Buy a few programs and software to learn.. This is better than a college education. and one you understand it your computer becomes an atm machine

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warray

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JennSpencerIM

I'd look on flippa.com for a website that was generating monthly income and spend no more than $30k on 3 sites, then use the rest to increase traffic for it.

If do have the money to spent on IM business, it is good idea to look at flippa.com buy web that ready have constant traffic and just maintain and improve it at lease you already crawl over the hard tedious works.

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ricoramiro

13 years ago

Go where people are buying products. eBay. You can invest in inventory and sell your stuff fast. I caution you to read some eBooks on eBay but that's where you should start.

Stay away from the high volume electronics products. The profit margin is too small. I became a Poweseller selling used cell phones. That's real easy to do. Go to:

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And read up on eBay. I learned a lot from him.

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Annette White 13 years ago

I agree be careful with your money. Make sure to do some research and figure out your numbers...
Take a second look at what you are investing in before you do..
Hire some va to make your life easier.. No man is an island.. Set some goals as well...

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Keen creations

13 years ago

Idk how much it would cost but I probably would try to get a prime advertising spot on the homepage of Msn.com and see what happens

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13 years ago

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HigherPrThanGod

13 years ago

I'd sit 10k of that in gold or silver, then buy a high PR, HIGH TRAFFIC website in a good niche (as others have said). There's talk of a new world reserve currency and gold/silver will play a huge role in that. Might be a great time to get in. Check that - 30 years ago was a great time to get in.. lol

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Cee

13 years ago

You could invest in some inexpensive courses so you fully know what you're doing before spending large amounts of money. For instance Rosalind Gardner has the Super Affiliate Handbook that's only $47 and there are several good amazon courses right here on this website in the WSO forum.

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thedog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Cee

You could invest in some inexpensive courses so you fully know what you're doing before spending large amounts of money. For instance Rosalind Gardner has the Super Affiliate Handbook that's only $47 and there are several good amazon courses right here on this website in the WSO forum.

Couldn't agree more. I've already invested around $400 in wso's and courses and around $500 in tools of the trade.

It took me a while to find an area to focus on... but I'm now getting my amazon and adsense on. I'm living in China at the mo, so I really only need $1,000 a month to live comfortably... but where's the fun in that

As for gold and silver... I rode that train for a year, and pretty much broke even. I was using bullion vault... which is handy for buying selling and storing gold, but i don't like the way there's the same monthly charge on storing it, even if you have $100 worth or $50,000 worth.

Anyway... I still know very little about gold and silver.

I like the idea of buying sites that can make money and appreciate... I just need to be able to distinguish the lemons...

Thanks for the feedback...

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Annette White

13 years ago

I have not made any money with adsense or amazon either.. You need to fine a niche though

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SpikeS

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Hi guys, if you had around $40,000 to invest in IM, how would you invest it?

I'll be getting a redundancy package, and I need to start thinking about investing.

There's the safe option of a term deposit account, but that barely keeps you ahead of inflation.... I know nothing about the stock market, and would not gamble on something I know nothing about. I have a friend who lost big time on the stock market, he let a bank take care of his portfolio...

I've been studying IM for over 6 months now, and have a pretty good grasp of the basics.

The first thing that came to mind was to buy some internet real estate, something that generates a monthly income and is pretty future proof would be good.... so, can I please get some feedback.

Thanks.

Seriously, do not 'invest' your 40K in IM! The beauty of IM is you dont need huge amounts of money to get going! a couple domains/hosting, an idea and lots of hard work. Sinking 40K into it isn't going to get you better results.

If I had 40K, I'd look at purchasing/setting up an actual business. Whether that be online or not, but an actual business you can improve and be enthusiastic about. Personally I'd open a gym but thats me.

I recommend reading 'the millionaire fastlane' by MJ DeMarco. Besides the corny title, its a really good book about this sort of stuff.

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thedog

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SpikeS

Seriously, do not 'invest' your 40K in IM! The beauty of IM is you dont need huge amounts of money to get going! a couple domains/hosting, an idea and lots of hard work. Sinking 40K into it isn't going to get you better results.

If I had 40K, I'd look at purchasing/setting up an actual business. Whether that be online or not, but an actual business you can improve and be enthusiastic about. Personally I'd open a gym but thats me.

I recommend reading 'the millionaire fastlane' by MJ DeMarco. Besides the corny title, its a really good book about this sort of stuff.

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that you can build up an online empire with very little capital and a lot of elbow grease, but I'm sure aquiring sucessful, profitible websites is sound business.

I think real world business like gyms, bars, restaurants are a much bigger risk... huge amounts of capital needed and a lot more prone to fail... most information I've read on such businesses is that very few will last after 3 years and those that do take a lot of blood sweat and tears... of course, if it's something you're passionate about, well, then maybe it's worth the risk.

I'm looking at IM as an investment vehicle. The internet's not going away anytime soon and the right site in the right niche would be a sound investment, with much less stress than a real world business.

That said, I am looking into starting a kung fu school here in China... just doing my homework... I'd love to do this, but I think there may be too many hurdles.

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Annette White 13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

That said, I am looking into starting a kung fu school here in China... just doing my homework... I'd love to do this, but I think there may be too many hurdles.

Okay so you do have a niche in mine. I am sure kufu is very common in China. What you need to research is what all of them have in common and what they dont have,, and If you are not sure. Visit some schools with a survey that you created you can fine out what most people would like to see the school incorporate...
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SpikeS

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that you can build up an online empire with very little capital and a lot of elbow grease, but I'm sure aquiring sucessful, profitible websites is sound business.

I think real world business like gyms, bars, restaurants are a much bigger risk... huge amounts of capital needed and a lot more prone to fail... most information I've read on such businesses is that very few will last after 3 years and those that do take a lot of blood sweat and tears... of course, if it's something you're passionate about, well, then maybe it's worth the risk.

I'm looking at IM as an investment vehicle. The internet's not going away anytime soon and the right site in the right niche would be a sound investment, with much less stress than a real world business.

That said, I am looking into starting a kung fu school here in China... just doing my homework... I'd love to do this, but I think there may be too many hurdles.

There's a good book, I think it's called Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics

We could say most people fail at IM (coz they do), so the fact most offline businesses might fail is neither important nor should influence your decision. Of course a online business is just as good of a choice.

IM can definately provide passive income to allow you to chase your dreams/passion though!

Good luck with whatever you decide!

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wzx 13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

That said, I am looking into starting a kung fu school here in China... just doing my homework... I'd love to do this, but I think there may be too many hurdles.

I'd start a kung fu school in some other country instead. China is already saturated with too many kung fu masters.
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Annette White

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SpikeS

If I had 40K, I'd look at purchasing/setting up an actual business. Whether that be online or not, but an actual business you can improve and be enthusiastic about. Personally I'd open a gym but thats me..

I agree with that he has to fine something that he is passionate about whether its offline or online

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13 years ago

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gskesavan

13 years ago

I think I'd take 500 bucks from it and deposit the rest in the bank. I seriously don't need 40K for affiliate marketing or product marketing.

Investing in Local Businesses SEO might be a good option, especially if I wanted to expand.

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Kevin Williams

13 years ago

I'd spend about $2000 developing a product in a niche I'm interested in (gaming in my case, probably) and then pay another $1000 or so for a professional copywriter for the salescopy.

Overall you could get an awesome product (preferably a membership website) with great sales and good graphics for about $5000.

Use another $1000 to build a free report, start a niche site, SEO it, build a list, and send traffic to your product. If it's on clickbank you can hit high gravity, send blasts to peoples lists (from the JV section), and get more affiliates.

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Rich Struck

13 years ago

I would use $39,000 of it to buy a respectable Ferrari 308 or possibly a 328, I'd spend $10 on a domain, $10 on hosting, then I'd piss away the rest I guess.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rich Struck

I would use $39,000 of it to buy a respectable Ferrari 308 or possibly a 328, I'd spend $10 on a domain, $10 on hosting, then I'd piss away the rest I guess.

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palmer9999

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thedog

Hi guys, if you had around $40,000 to invest in IM, how would you invest it?

I'll be getting a redundancy package, and I need to start thinking about investing.

There's the safe option of a term deposit account, but that barely keeps you ahead of inflation.... I know nothing about the stock market, and would not gamble on something I know nothing about. I have a friend who lost big time on the stock market, he let a bank take care of his portfolio...

I've been studying IM for over 6 months now, and have a pretty good grasp of the basics.

The first thing that came to mind was to buy some internet real estate, something that generates a monthly income and is pretty future proof would be good.... so, can I please get some feedback.

Thanks.

Hey Dog,

Its me

Just wanted to drop something that I would recommend personally, Daily deals or groupons.. Costs a lot to get it up and running but if done correctly would work well in any particular country. I think if you stick to your specific area and have proper development of the site etc it will be a success.

Anyways man good luck with whatever you do, just my 2 cents.

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fluffythewondercat 13 years ago

I think the "If I had $x to invest, what then" question is one that every entrepreneur should ask themselves periodically, at least twice a year. The answer's not only useful for the obvious reason but it forces you to think about your business in ways that get neglected in the day-to-day shuffle.

Whatever opportunity you choose, don't forget to ask yourself if this is something people need and if your efforts will improve the world instead of cannibalizing it.

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Anonymous Affiliate

13 years ago

Dont spend a dime on IM. This is not a business for investors but for entrepreneurs.

Take $1,000 at the most and start from there. If you cannot make money spending $1k, you won't make money spending $40k.

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ZaneZenMaster

13 years ago

Get a mentor... make sure he's well known for his success
Get Optimize Press or Azthetik, or List Machine Pro.
Launch a Product.... with the help and guidance of your mentor, to secure a profitable launch. And make sure to get allot of JV's and Affiliates.
Do PPC campaigns preferably on Facebook, to drive traffic to squeeze pages then affiliate offers..
Continue building the list,
Be friendly and interactive with them.
Promote affiliate offers to your list..
After a good while of just socializing with your list.

Build niche sites around the place, and if you don't got much time, outsource SEO at a pretty cool site called SEO Services | RankPay™ . They claim to rank you're site to the top 3 spots on google for any keyword and you don't pay until the job's done. Pretty cool.

p.s: with that money, wise outsourcing is key.. Outsourcing can be your ticket, just as long as you do your research and spend the money wisely.
In all I don't think you would be spending near $40gran anyway.

Rinse and Repeat.

Enjoy

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kpaulmedia

13 years ago

Haven't read all the comments yet, so apologies if I'm repeating anything.

Personally, with only a few months experience, I would invest most into buying established websites that are already producing a profit every month. Add to that a mix of your own websites with a little money set aside.

Hope this helps! Good luck!

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tonio79

13 years ago

Research what you like and do what you love.

40k is a lot of money to have to invest. Don't feel you have to use it all.

Niche research tool would be good and then test small on PPC and build up when you find a profitable campaign.

Good luck!

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Matthew NY

13 years ago

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Test the new offers and have the guru help you to find what is working and what is not.

Find something that works, and scale immensely. The bigger you scale, the more money you make, and with $40k, and the right PPC formula, mannn will you make some bank.

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bwisco

13 years ago

Partner with someone who is proven and knows what they are doing. They will teach you and show you how it's done and your chances of losing go way down. Give them half the money and half the profits. It's worth it if you are serious. Don't be greedy.

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36burrows

13 years ago

I wish I had found this forum before blowing a bunch of cash.

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Scott B

13 years ago

Spend it all on WSOs!

Ok, DON'T spend it all on WSOs! But you have a tremendous opportunity that most IMers never get. You've (currently) got very low living expenses and enough savings that you can focus solely on IM for a long time. (Still, that time will go by faster than you would ever believe). Like others have said, get a mentor. Be very careful of partnerships that require you to put in more money than your partners are putting in. You may even want to considering working for a successful internet marketer (for free) just to learn the business better.

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internetmadeeasy

13 years ago

$40,000 wow nice,well if it was me i would create my own product membership site or go to flipper all some where and buy a real nice website whats is making money already,or just got and buy a porsche

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