Is it right to take articles from other sites and just rewrite them ?

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Hi guys,

I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

Thanks jim
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  • Profile picture of the author NiallR
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    Hi guys,

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Thanks jim

    Using content from other websites as inspiration for your own content is fine.

    Copying it and rewriting it is something else entirely - in my mind it's theft because you're not even trying. You're just adapting somebody else's hard/paid for work.

    If you can't find PLR articles for your site then why not spend some money on getting the content written for you?
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    • Profile picture of the author panduari
      Originally Posted by NiallR View Post

      Using content from other websites as inspiration for your own content is fine.

      Copying it and rewriting it is something else entirely - in my mind it's theft because you're not even trying. You're just adapting somebody else's hard/paid for work.

      If you can't find PLR articles for your site then why not spend some money on getting the content written for you?
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      • Profile picture of the author niceguy123
        i know it sound silly but i wanted to ask what do you mean by rewriting the article.

        does it means that you copy an article and write in your words and add something your own. if this is rewriting than what is the meaning of inspiring from the article.

        just confuse. :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author bcagle
      Another option might be to re-post the content with credit. This would allow the author to at least get a link in. You might also contact the original author. They may be willing to do guest posts on your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
      If you use the articles for further information on a topic, that's fine. As someone who writes many articles on all kinds of topics, I will read articles or postings to get further information on a topic. Then I put the article aside and write my own article in my own words and style.

      So may advice is not to take another article and then try to modify it. There is need for much more unique content. It will help your site to rank higher and also provides more benefit to the readerr. So avoid simple rewrites of information which already exists.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??
    Ask yourself how you'd feel if others did the same thing with the content from your sites.


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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Some product sites will give affiliates articles that you can use, I think it's ok to rewrite those. As far as finding articles on other people's sites then, as said above, use them for inspiration but don't just rewrite them.
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  • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
    Rewriting an article that is not your own, without the permission of the author or copyright owner, is an infringement of copyright which is illegal in most countries.
    If you're not sure, read up on copyright and what it means where you operate.
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    • Profile picture of the author whitewave
      I find the bet way is not to simply re-write an article but to merge several articles on the same topic to make one 'killer' article.

      Like find several article for 'top tips to do X' and combine them. You offer real value then to readers who are more likely to click your link for more...
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    Hi guys,

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Thanks jim
    If I could write this is what I would do;

    1. Go to ezine articles
    2. Search for the article that have the most views in your niche
    3. Copy the article and the article name
    4. Using the article as a guide and write a new article using the same keywords that get those views
    5. When done publish first on your site get indexed and then publish on ezine if you want
    6. Remember the article you copy is for you own use only and not to be published and to be used as a guide

    Hmmmm.....should have done a WSO on this and charged $10 a pop. My wife and I could have gone for some nice steaks tonight
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    • Profile picture of the author Mrg77
      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      If I could write this is what I would do;

      1. Go to ezine articles
      2. Search for the article that have the most views in your niche
      3. Copy the article and the article name
      4. Using the article as a guide and write a new article using the same keywords that get those views
      5. When done publish first on your site get indexed and then publish on ezine if you want
      6. Remember the article you copy is for you own use only and not to be published and to be used as a guide

      Hmmmm.....should have done a WSO on this and charged $10 a pop. My wife and I could have gone for some nice steaks tonight
      :p This made me chuckle nice to see some humour around here !
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    • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      If I could write this is what I would do;

      1. Go to ezine articles
      2. Search for the article that have the most views in your niche
      3. Copy the article and the article name
      4. Using the article as a guide and write a new article using the same keywords that get those views
      5. When done publish first on your site get indexed and then publish on ezine if you want
      6. Remember the article you copy is for you own use only and not to be published and to be used as a guide

      Thats just rewriting and exactly what i was thinking about doing ??
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        1. Go to ezine articles
        2. Search for the article that have the most views in your niche
        3. Copy the article and the article name
        4. Using the article as a guide and write a new article using the same keywords that get those views
        5. When done publish first on your site get indexed and then publish on ezine if you want
        6. Remember the article you copy is for you own use only and not to be published and to be used as a guide
        That is NOT "research" at all. Manufacturers sites, consumer sites, forums, authority sites, govt sites, product instructions, etc - that's research.

        What's described above is a fancy way to copy what someone else did. Unfortunately, that's how many IM articles seem to be written. If you are going to do that, just buy some plr and make a few changes. At least you won't be violating copyright when you do that.

        #6 doesn't even make sense - you just used it as your own in #1-5
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      Search for the article that have the most views in your niche
      Yes ... a quick WSO along those lines would more than cover the best steaks tonight, as you suspected.

      However, just like so many popular ideas in internet marketing, it isn't necessarily such a good idea, I'm afraid.

      Please excuse my putting on my skepchick hat for long enough to mention that identifying (in places such as EZA) articles with high viewing figures may be a way of finding marketers whose understanding of "article marketing" is so questionable that they're sending traffic (e.g. by backlinking, but often in other ways, too) to other people's sites - EZA's, in this case - rather than to their own.

      These are certainly NOT people by whose marketing judgements (including "subject-selection" and "keyword-selection") I'd want to be guided, myself!

      This is a way of finding articles written by people who are sending traffic to EZA. It isn't inherently a way of finding articles which are producing income for their authors. If you're going to copy stuff, at least copy stuff that works ...
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  • Profile picture of the author tokaje
    Its fine to use others materials, BUT you have to respect the copyright issue, give them credit, leaving their links, and all that legal stuff...... so in my opinion its unethical if you just plain steal it, and then rewrite the articles and take the credit. However, you can put together information you yourself has gathered, in new articles... because people like information presented in different ways, and therefore a new approach to things can help some people.
    But it should be possibly to get some PLR stuff on your niche for free from the net, or you might want to pay a small amount (1-5$) for some kick-ass PLR content, ore even have it custom made, by your own specific demands..... that doesn´t have to cost a lot.
    Here´s some premium suggestions for premium PLR´s:
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    • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
      Originally Posted by tokaje View Post

      Its fine to use others materials...
      Define 'use'. In most cases, it's still not fine to use other people's material. It's fine to be inspired by it, yes.

      Originally Posted by tokaje View Post

      ...BUT you have to respect the copyright issue, give them credit, leaving their links, and all that legal stuff...
      That's not enough to absolve you of copyright infringement. You can give credit all day long, but if you used it without permission, you still infringed their copyright ...and that's illegal. You're still open to prosecution.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
        Originally Posted by peejaydee View Post

        Define 'use'. In most cases, it's still not fine to use other people's material. It's fine to be inspired by it, yes.



        That's not enough to absolve you of copyright infringement. You can give credit all day long, but if you used it without permission, you still infringed their copyright ...and that's illegal. You're still open to prosecution.
        Some great replys here and i have no intention of stealing others work thats why i posted here but as to the copyright issue if the article is rewritten it would be no use unless it was rewritten enough to pass say copyscape or even ezine articles so in that case how could they be a claim for copyright ? how could that be inforced the article is by any other means original !
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        • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
          Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

          Some great replys here and i have no intention of stealing others work thats why i posted here but as to the copyright issue if the article is rewritten it would be no use unless it was rewritten enough to pass say copyscape or even ezine articles so in that case how could they be a claim for copyright ? how could that be inforced the article is by any other means original !
          That's the whole point of copyright. Copyright is not just about the words on the page and the order that you use them in. Yes, you can reword an article and have it pass a Copyscape check for uniqueness, but that only really tells you that there's no other instance of that exact combination and order of those words that Copyscape can find. It's not a copyright evasion tool. The combination of words may be original, but the idea may not be. You may be confusing copyright with plagiarism??

          Copyright extends to the thoughts expressed, the ideas proposed. That's why it's also referred to as the intellectual property of the copyright owner. Rewriting the article is still using their idea without permission.

          I agree that in a great many cases it can be very hard to have any copyright infringement claim. Imagine trying to claim copyright on something like '5 Great Ways to Create Backlinks' for example? Some subjects have been done to death, but that doesn't mean it's legal to take someone else's work and use it without permission.

          What would be far better is to acknowledge that you read the article and that one part of it made you think and then base your new, original, unique article on what your thoughts were about that, or how you agree or disagree with it. In fact, saying that can be a great way of starting your article.
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          • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
            Originally Posted by peejaydee View Post

            That's the whole point of copyright. Copyright is not just about the words on the page and the order that you use them in. Yes, you can reword an article and have it pass a Copyscape check for uniqueness, but that only really tells you that there's no other instance of that exact combination and order of those words that Copyscape can find. It's not a copyright evasion tool. The combination of words may be original, but the idea may not be. You may be confusing copyright with plagiarism??

            Copyright extends to the thoughts expressed, the ideas proposed. That's why it's also referred to as the intellectual property of the copyright owner. Rewriting the article is still using their idea without permission.

            I agree that in a great many cases it can be very hard to have any copyright infringement claim. Imagine trying to claim copyright on something like '5 Great Ways to Create Backlinks' for example? Some subjects have been done to death, but that doesn't mean it's legal to take someone else's work and use it without permission.
            completely understand your excellent point ! But like you say and i`m not trying to stand up for the subject that i have started the thread about taking others work and rewriting it, but the point you made i guess is only viable if you are the owner of a very original `idea` which you wrote about in my case i`m looking at `best protein powder` `tips to build muscle` lol can`t see much of a case with that !! Anyway wrong is wrong and i haven`t stole anything since i was a kid and use to pinch football cards from the local news agents and i`m not going to start now !!
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              copyright issue if the article is rewritten it would be no use unless
              You are arguing for what reason? It's not that easy to avoid copyright issues.

              Big problem is people who think nothing of rewriting an article by someone else and calling it "mine" may go on to do the same to reports and books and products. Slippery slope there, isn't it?

              Rewriting does not remove copyright. You are assuming a rewritten articles is "unique" - but it may be "derivative" which can also violate copyright.

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              • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                You are arguing for what reason? It's not that easy to avoid copyright issues.

                Big problem is people who think nothing of rewriting an article by someone else and calling it "mine" may go on to do the same to reports and books and products. Slippery slope there, isn't it?

                Rewriting does not remove copyright. You are assuming a rewritten articles is "unique" - but it may be "derivative" which can also violate copyright.

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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    Don't plainly rewrite them. I should say you gather different points from different articles and add your own touch to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author nzmegs
    You could be walking a fine line if you rewrite. I think most writers can say that they have done something similar at some point in their career. You borrow an idea from another article and write it up in your own way. However if it is obvious that you have done it, it is possible it could lead to prosecution (although i have never heard of it happening)

    Imagine you have borrowed a list article with ten items. Your "new" article has ten items, in the same order, is about the same length and looks almost the same.

    If it is just the same concept, idea and type of article you could be leaving yourself open to criticism at best.

    it is always better to write a unique article in my opinion. it is what I do 100% of the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author GameVoid
    Go to textbroker or fiverr and get someone to write an article or two on the subject for you. You now own the article and can rewrite it, spin it, throw darts at it, do whatever you want and never have to worry about someone coming along later with a cease and desist letter.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    I wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Let me put it to you this way...

    Would it be fair for me to take your wife/girlfriend, buy her new clothes, and say that she is mine -- without asking her permission and laughing at you while I did it?

    Maybe I could even arrange to profit from the process? I could get people to give me money just to look at her or I could rent her, because she is with me...



    p.s. Yes ladies... I know this is wrong on every level... But that is why it is such a good analogy!! :p
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    • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Let me put it to you this way...

      Would it be fair for me to take your wife/girlfriend, buy her new clothes, and say that she is mine -- without asking her permission and laughing at you while I did it?

      Maybe I could even arrange to profit from the process? I could get people to give me money, just because she is with me...
      NO SIR !!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
    All I ever see on this site is how to get cheaper articles/how to 'rewrite' existing articles....

    but then I wonder if the people REALLY making money pay more for their articles/write excellent articles themselves. Hm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Viramara
    LOL, I do that sometimes :p. But I don't really rewrite. I just use previous available articles for research. Only to make myself know what I say
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  • Profile picture of the author Palusko
    I'll play the devil's advocate a bit here but if the article is changed to certain level, isn't it considered an original work?
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Palusko View Post

      I'll play the devil's advocate a bit here but if the article is changed to certain level, isn't it considered an original work?
      As far as I'm aware that still counts as derivative works.

      Just like taking someone else's article and spinning it is exactly the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianTomlinson
    You can take ideas from anywhere. It is inevitable that you will come up with similar concepts etc. You should definitely strive to write everything as it comes to you from the ideas you thought up after reading an article etc.

    Blatantly copying will do you no good and as someone mentioned earlier.....would you like someone to do that to your "non-plr" content?
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    • Profile picture of the author djemerald
      Originally Posted by AlwaysFearless View Post

      You can take ideas from anywhere. It is inevitable that you will come up with similar concepts etc. You should definitely strive to write everything as it comes to you from the ideas you thought up after reading an article etc.

      Blatantly copying will do you no good and as someone mentioned earlier.....would you like someone to do that to your "non-plr" content?

      This is a very interesting topic for me as a writer. Did you ever try to find anything in print that was a whole brand new subject or written content, something that had never been written about before? Ridiculous!

      AlwaysFearless
      above is absolutely right, the only way to write or rewrite an article is to take ideas from several sources you have and give it a different spin, tell it in a different voice, expand on one or more articles and sometimes take the subject to a whole different level.

      Even scientific research material will include concepts from other authors research.

      I think its a very good idea to run any article you write through copyscape, even PLR shouldn't be an exact copy, but you do have that right with a PLR product .

      I wouldn't see that as being very creative though and I like creative.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianTomlinson
    You can take ideas from anywhere. It is inevitable that you will come up with similar concepts etc. You should definitely strive to write everything as it comes to you from the ideas you thought up after reading an article etc.

    Blatantly copying will do you no good and as someone mentioned earlier.....would you like someone to do that to your "non-plr" content?
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    I agree with what many people have said about taking ideas and key points from different places and aggregating them. This is your unique spin, and you are serving the role of an editor by cutting through all the clutter and presenting readers with the best information by doing the research for them, saving them time.
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  • Profile picture of the author orlandosharessat
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    Hi guys,

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Thanks jim
    Jim, There is a couple of things to consider with your question. First of all as stated in previous replies it is not legal in most countries and could be costly if you are prosecutes. Second, you have to think of the real reason for adding articles to your site in the first place.

    Most people use them for SEO purposes and to provide value to the readers. If you use content from someone else's site more than likely it will be caught by the Search Engine Spiders and views as duplicate content and hot be used in your SEO efforts this not driving the kind of targeted traffic you are looking for.

    Also other readers may have seen the content or similar content on other sites and feel like you are not credible because the perception will be you stole the content from other people's site.

    So visit others site and read there article to see what topics people are talking about in your niche market and use it as mentioned for inspiration to create your own personal article rewriting and other articles never works well in the Article Marketing arena!

    Hope this helps and Happy Writing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tylerbennett577
    I think copying and pasting an article, and then changing some words and putting your twist on it for money is wrong. People should write their own articles, and if you can't do that then maybe you should rethink your method of making money.

    But I agree, looking online for inspiration is fine, as long as you don't use that article and change a few words.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    We have had this discussion before, you cannot take somebody else s article, spin it, and claim it as your own, it comes under derivative content. Here is what Kindsvater had to say in a previous thread;

    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    I was asked to look at this thread and offer any guidance.

    In my view, a "spun" article is clearly a derivative work and is an infringement of copyright.

    Title 17 US Code Section 106, and section 101 defining "derivative work".

    It is a mistake to get hung up on the "words" used versus the "expression".
    End of story.

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    • Profile picture of the author chumpschimps
      Taking an article and simply spinning or re-writing it is still copyright infringement and you could find yourself in hot water.

      Maybe, if you're looking for articles in a particular niche, then others are too. If you don't want to/can't write the articles yourself, why not sign up to a few plr writers mailing lists and request those topics?
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm tired of making my own business. Why don't I just wait for you to do all the hard work and I'll just come by and take a few minutes to copy everything you do in a way that people might not notice -- then I can be a big wheel and not have to work at the same time - never have to come up with an original idea or know jack about anything.

    Sound like a good idea to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Claire Sharp
    Copying, rewriting and using articles from other sites is just fine. But do you think it is fair to the owner of articles you are using? You better create your own content to avoid plagiarism.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Claire Sharp View Post

      Copying, rewriting and using articles from other sites is just fine. But do you think it is fair to the owner of articles you are using? You better create your own content to avoid plagiarism.
      Claire, I really do struggle sometimes to wonder where you get your misinformation from.

      It is not fine, it's derivative works.

      I'm glad you have the sense to find it unfair and you advise people to create their own stuff but copying, rewriting and using articles from other sites is not "fine".

      Originally Posted by webmarke View Post

      Here are the real facts of the matter.
      Quite possibly the most arrogant statement I've seen on this forum so far and that in itself is a huge statement.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post


        It is not fine, it's derivative works.
        Bingo! Taking an article, spinning it is, and posting it as your own is theft. Simple as that. Derivative work is the proper term for it and it is a copyright violation.

        I use a Creative Commons license (and display it on my site) and it mentions no derivative works explicitly (along with other restrictions).

        Nothing gray area at all about this, and anyone with any kind of moral compass should understand it intuitively. If someone decides they want to write about topic X, realizes they need to research it further, punch some key words into Google, and then uses those sources (plural, and here I mean more than 2) as research to help them create their article, that is fair game - so long as they're quoting and linking back to the source on anything written word for word.

        If that is too much effort, pay someone to do it, or buy PLR. If you can't do that, find another line of work that doesn't entail article creation, because if you can't write them yourself, or outsource it to someone who can, you're in the wrong business. Simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author webmarke
    Here are the real facts of the matter.

    I am not going to say it's right or wrong..but the reality.

    In the real world and internet world it is common practice to copy other peoples work. Here is a list of who does it.
    1. car manufacturers
    2. cereal makers
    3. people who make razors for shaving
    4. people online copy other peoples high converting salespages
    5. bloggers go to other blogs and copy the other blogs idea for a post
    6. people who make toothpaste
    7. people who make medicine
    8. and yes people copy other people's articles

    And let's not talk out about patents running out and other such crap.
    That's all semantics. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

    And the get inspiration from an article but do not copy it is a thin line as I see it. You are still copying an idea or a thought. Just because you don't copy the words does not mean you did not copy.

    I know the argument that's coming..It's about copyright infringement.

    But is it really. If he takes the article and rewrite in his own words is that getting inspiration from it or copying it?

    Like I said it's all semantics when you take the legalities out of it. It seems everyone is copy everyone else in every industry.

    You can talk legalities but his guide should be if he thinks it's right or wrong. Because the simple fact is if he rewrites the article in his own words it's going to be nearly impossible to prove copyright infringement.


    And one last thing. Some of the people who tell you not to do it on this thread have done it and will continue to do it.

    The same people who buy the generic versions of a unique product. The same people who sell other people's original ideas in the WSO.

    My advice to you sir is to do what you think is best.

    If you want to be like the rest of the world then copy the article and make it your be rewriting it in your own words.

    If your moral standards are to high to go along what the rest of the world is doing then don't copy the article.

    Like I said I don't say it's wright or wrong..,Just reality.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by webmarke View Post

      And the get inspiration from an article but do not copy it is a thin line as I see it. You are still copying an idea or a thought. Just because you don't copy the words does not mean you did not copy.

      Words have copyright protections -- ideas do not.

      Product designs have patent protections -- the product idea does not.

      Parse this as you like, but we are discussing legal rights of people to make money off the work of others.

      I advise that we should "read a topic for comprehension, then write our own ideas about the topic."
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      • Profile picture of the author webmarke
        No. You are discussing legal rights and I am discussing the reality of the situation.

        You reply is all semantics sir. If you read my post correctly you would not have that reply.

        This is not about legalities at all. He can easily avoid copyright infringement.

        I know it and you know it. So forget the legal stuff.

        You continue to discuss semantics instead of looking at the big picture.

        Is it right for as generic medicine company to wait for the patent to end then put out the same product in generic form?

        Is it right for ford to copy chevy's idea and vice versa? What's really the difference between a camaro and a trans-am. One company saw the other company have success with that idea and copied them.

        And you and I both no he can do the same with the article in question and get away with it if he does it right.

        So you legal points are really moot. It's not about legalities at all..If you really think about it.

        It comes down to what I said in my first reply. It's not about what you can get away with doing, it's about what you think is right.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by webmarke View Post

          No. You are discussing legal rights and I am discussing the reality of the situation.

          You reply is all semantics sir. If you read my post correctly you would not have that reply.

          This is not about legalities at all. He can easily avoid copyright infringement.

          I know it and you know it. So forget the legal stuff.

          You continue to discuss semantics instead of looking at the big picture.

          Is it right for as generic medicine company to wait for the patent to end then put out the same product in generic form?

          Is it right for ford to copy chevy's idea and vice versa? What's really the difference between a camaro and a trans-am. One company saw the other company have success with that idea and copied them.

          And you and I both no he can do the same with the article in question and get away with it if he does it right.

          So you legal points are really moot. It's not about legalities at all..If you really think about it.

          It comes down to what I said in my first reply. It's not about what you can get away with doing, it's about what you think is right.

          If I could kill my wife and get away with it, would it be okay to do?

          Sure, people get away with stealing content every day... But is it the right thing to do?

          This conversation started as a discussion about "right" and "fair". You are trying to transition it to a conversation about whether we "can".

          The fact is that you "can" do anything you want. But in doing what you want, you could be setting yourself up for some unwanted and unintended consequences.

          It is like I tell my son. "Yes, you can do that. But there are consequences for every action you take. Are you sure you are willing to accept the consequences of your actions?"

          There may not always be a judge, an angry wife, or a belt for the child at the consequences side of every action, but karma usually takes care of things when the law of the land and your home are not there to match consequences with actions.

          Is it right to steal words from others? No. Can you do it? Yes, if you are willing to take the chance on whether you will see the consequences for such actions.

          Is it right to take ideas from others? There is no legal cost for doing so. But, is it right? Not really.

          If you are going to write content for the web, you should at least be working off of your own ideas, which often comes to those who have the courage to think for themselves.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          I was going to write a repy to someone on here, but I honestly don't think the idea would soak in any further than to have someone swipe it for something to rewrite so they don't have to engage any brain cells to consider themselves to be working.

          What happened to reading, analyzing, deciding the logic, considering other points of view or items not discussed, outcomes, better ways etc and so forth. Okay - so I didn't go out and invent chemicals for my skin care products - I studied how each natural element worked, devised ways to put them together and cover all my skin's needs. I didn't read much on how to train dogs, I worked with a few and knew what would work - don't even know if anyone uses the same methods or not. I could go on, but you get my drift.

          If you are just copying others ideas, you aren't doing anything. Your mind is blank - you have nothing new. You have no business - you have unimaginative worn out road hash with nothing to offer that is fresh.

          Comero is NOT a Firebird. I've owned both. One was an awesome car and one was a cheap and disappointing copycat that I felt suckered for buying. It wasn't only not original - it was inferior. But then most copycat crap is. That's because the person doing the copying hasn't got enough brains to come up with their own stuff, let alone to make it better.

          Whatever happened to - this is what there is - how can I make it better? Not finding it around here much anymore. Trust me on that one.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Whatever happened to - this is what there is - how can I make it better? Not finding it around here much anymore. Trust me on that one.

            Haha... Whack!!!

            They get up off the floor... Then...

            Whack!!!

            Some people only learn from the repeat whippings... Ask my boys... They will tell you that they only recognize the whippings, but never the why...

            LOL

            The reason they cannot understand the why or how to prevent it in the future is because "when the mouth is yapping, the ears are closed."

            Keep up the good work Sal...

            One of these days, someone in the audience will shut their mouth long enough to learn something of value...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad789
    JimKirk1943

    Brad here. I agree with the other posts - use the "other articles for inspiration". Rewrites are fine -- but most of us can add additional materials.

    Personal experience with the resulting issue is always a useful add. I also found that Google Scholastic and Wikipedia have been useful as well.

    Also take a look at google alerts on topics you want to write on. It seemed that it was not long before I read an article and said "hey I can add xyz and make it even more useful".

    I can't speak for the public but I have been reasonably pleased with the results. Plus even rewrites have forced me to do a lot -- sometimes way lot -- of research to check facts and stats. For me it has become a learning experience.

    Another advantage. Take a 200 - 400 page article and rewrite it. If you research key points that "you" see in the article to enrich it you will end up with a much longer article. Most for me end up over 1,200 words. That allows me to create two articles for the original price of just one.

    Content is improved, posts increased and my view is the value is also increased. You are welcomed to check out my blog and see if you agree.

    Hope this view is useful to you.

    Best of luck !

    Cheers !
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    Hi guys,

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Thanks jim
    My rule of thumb: if I were submitting it as an academic paper, where you have to cite your sources, would it be accepted? Or would it lead to a 0 and possible expulsion for plagiarism?

    1 source that isn't your own, no matter how you re-write it, is still plagiarism to me and unethical. You may not be stealing from the original author word for word, but you're still stealing his content and - worse still - branding it as your own. When it isn't. Using my rule of thumb above, it would get a 0 and court a reprimand and possible expulsion.

    3 or more sources, on the other hand is research, so long as you're quoting and linking back to anything you haven't rewritten. This is sufficient for most short first year post-secondary essays, which makes it good enough for me for a general audience.

    If you're set on using one source then buy PLR content. At least then it actually is yours, and you're free to do what you want with it.

    Footnote: Google and its cache is a fantastic resource for those of us who write our own content, rather than stealing it from others, spinning it, and branding it as their own. Were I to see my exact content spun on someone else's site, I would have no qualms whatsoever with submitting my date-stamped article along with the spinner's version to Google, their webmaster and domain provider, affiliates, and anyone else their associated with to sort out whether or not they agree the content is stolen - and then take whatever sanctions against the offending party as they feel is appropriate.

    I doubt I'm the only content author who feels the same way and would take the exact same action to protect their work from content thieves/fraudsters.

    Something to keep in mind if you plan to rewrite someone else's article and brand it your own, rather than expend the time to do the research and writing for content you can honestly call your own, or buy PLR content.
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  • Profile picture of the author ResearchDiva
    TPW - you crack me up!

    Ok folks - content is a hot topic, and especially good content. And with all the google dancing going on revolving around content that should tell you where the trend is going....toward great, relevant, engaging content. And while there is some great content on the internet, there is also a lot that is really bad, don't you agree?

    One thing I always ask when writing is: "Would I want to read this?"

    I'm rolling out some new PLR content to add to what is currently available PLUS putting together the information you need to get the most out of your content. You don't have to settle for poorly written $1 articles in order to get good VALUE out of your investment.

    I invite you to take my Niche Survey-I have a video on the site that talks about it a little more-I'll give you all the raw data niche research for free to those who participate. Then, bookmark the site - there is a lot of information coming your way - stuff you can really use to put together a great content marketing strategy. I'm at YourResearchDiva dot com....see you there!

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  • Profile picture of the author rite
    I have always just used the articles as a source of inspiration. i i use a portion of the article i always make sure to cite my source
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  • Profile picture of the author Boricua
    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    Hi guys,

    I`ve been looking for some PLR articles for some of my fitness supplement site and cannot find any at all so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?

    Is this a accepted method of getting content for my site or is it unfair ??

    Thanks jim
    Yah! Just like saying "I'd love to have Carmen Electra on my home playing TWISTER non-stop for two weekends without her leaving the house...would that actually be ok?" Oh well Correct to do that? No, but if you actually get the chance to ask yourself whether is it fair or not? Perhaps not for Carmen, but for me? You should get the picture.

    Same goes with articles from other fellows. But I do get your point and by now you probably figured it out. But if the content is REALLY REALLY REALLY (again, really!) challenging, mimic the message and not the content. Then, 80% personal experience/humor/personality and 20% relevancy from your own research or facts gathered through experience or even better, by expertise, to have an excellent written article that actually gets the job done. The process works quite well, again, when we're talking about REALLY challenging/irregular topics. (E.g, porn, politics)

    Consider the process.
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  • Hi Jim,

    Originally Posted by jimkirk1943 View Post

    [SNIP]...so i wondered if its right and fair to take articles from other sites and rewrite them and add them to my own sites ?[/SNIP]
    Hmmm... What would happen if I reworded your post twenty times and add nothing else to it, not even my own style and tone, then post it here as multiple threads using multiple accounts?

    1. The moderators will most likely nuke those threads...
    2. I'll most likely be banned for life...
    3. Other members will provide the same answers and solutions until they feel weary and tired of helping what looks like different people with the same set of questions and problems...
    4. Guest viewers will see one thread, see the other, take a peek and leave the thread since it fundamentally asks the same set of questions and solutions for the same set of problems and needs about the same set of topics and sub topics...

    Where or who or what is the recipient of some sort of benefit from doing the things I mentioned above? Not me. Not my websites. Not this forum. Not other members. Not their own websites. Not the moderators. Not guest viewres. Nobody. Nothing. Nowhere... So why do it? Advice: Just don't...
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  • Profile picture of the author vedremo
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    Recently one of my sites we'll call "awesomedomainname.com" was copied almost word for word onto a new site - "awesomedomainname.info". Even the About Me Page. More of a scum sucking leech than a traditional 'copy cat'.

    Respect the work and creativity of others.

    If you can't do that, pay someone else $4 to write a unique article to compensate for your lack of ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    Originally Posted by peter14 View Post

    Having a unique content is the best option but if you can't do that than re-writing is fine.
    I can only assume you skimmed the entire thread. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    why not use it to your power.

    Do not copy ,never plagurise, but how about find teh strengths and weaknesses in the article and use that.
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  • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
    Originally Posted by peter14 View Post

    Having a unique content is the best option but if you can't do that than re-writing is fine.
    I'll watch for you on the court registers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
      Originally Posted by peejaydee View Post

      I'll watch for you on the court registers.
      The more likely scenario, and something I've observed myself on a popular quasi-political blog I regularly read, whose author not only has his content ripped off now and then, but posts on his blog about it as well.

      1. The regular readers of his site also read other blogs, particularly ones where spun content is going to show it because we all look for more info on anything we read that is of interest to us. They come across it, and being fans of his, e-mail him to let him know.

      2. He calls them out on it on his blog, though denies rewarding their bad behavior with any link juice, by publishing the info of the offending site as plain text instead of a URL.

      Though he doesn't spell out exactly how he follows up on it, he does hint about it, and from the ire in his tone, I suspect his retaliation is along the lines of what I mentioned I would do were I ever in a similar situation. As I mentioned then, everyone who is anyone to the offending site - Google, their web host, domain provider, and their affiliate companies - would all be forwarded copies of the stolen content, along with my date stamped original for comparison, and the contents of my Creative Commons license which explicitly forbids derivative works.

      I imagine any other content author would do the exact same thing. Fair use, with attribution, is fine. So is asking for permission to use it. Outright theft is not okay.

      And to the content thieves out there: you may get away with it for a little while. But sooner or later someone is going to find you out. When they do, they're going to be less than pleased. If you're lucky, they may be generous enough to send you a notice demanding that you remove it. If they're not feeling so generous well then... sleep well knowing that tomorrow you may wake to find out that not only has your theft been discovered, but your affiliates have suspended your account, your domain and web hosting privileges have been revoked for violation of the TOS, and Google has de-indexed your site.

      Of course, that is the worst case scenario. But even then, is it worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author juliettelixora
    In my case i think its kinda ok if you can make the article much better and much more useful compared to the original one. But with all do respect to the original content that you make it as the ultimate source.
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    • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
      Originally Posted by juliettelixora View Post

      In my case i think its kinda ok if you can make the article much better and much more useful compared to the original one. But with all do respect to the original content that you make it as the ultimate source.
      No that is not ok. You are using justification, that doesn't pass the sniff test, to rationalize what is ultimately the exact same thing as someone who simply runs it through a spinner.

      Subjectively one may be better than the other, but both are derivative works, and both are therefore copyright violations. The original author isn't going to care a whit whether or not you think your ripped off version of his work is an "improvement." Nor will those he reports you to using his date stamped original and your derivative "improvement."

      Why is this so difficult for so many people to grasp?

      If you want to use someone else's work as something to improve upon, then pay the 99 cents that PLR starts at and have it - legally - with full rights to do with it as you please.
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  • Profile picture of the author WilliamBLee
    Its not right to copy articles from site and re write it its not authentic method for marketing through article at the end Google mark your site as black listed.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2011profit
    It's okay to rewrite other articles from another site bu you should also thank them by acknowledging their help through including them on related link below your article.
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    • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
      Originally Posted by 2011profit View Post

      It's okay to rewrite other articles from another site bu you should also thank them by acknowledging their help through including them on related link below your article.
      I think someone needs to read the thread.
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        • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
          Originally Posted by Content Winner View Post

          What's original nowadays?

          Unless it's a scientific paper or some invention/discovery, it's okay to rewrite articles, as long as they don't read or look like the original article. Get ideas and write in your own words. Seriously, with gazillions of articles out there, what are the chances that your article will look exactly like another article?

          Even original articles on the Internet are not really original.
          Having a hard time deciding whether I'm more amused, or annoyed, in reading this tripe from someone going by the handle of "Content Writer." On the flip side, if I'm ever short on ideas for things to write about and looking to outsource any content writing, I now know of one less source to look to. Thanks for that much at least.
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        • Hi Content Winner,

          Originally Posted by Content Winner View Post

          [SNIP]What's original nowadays?[/SNIP]


          Content integrated with the author's own relevant sets of observations, inferences, experience, test results, theories, opinions and perspectives, written in the author's own style, packaged in the author's own ways, and injected with the author's own personality. Period.

          You can even write a song that sounds like you're saying something, when in fact you aren't saying anything. Like what I mentioned, that's what I said, and if that happens, then it'll surely do, since nothing else is there, aside from what I told you...
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          • Profile picture of the author Boricua
            One thing is for sure...Google loves this thread quite a lot. Google is eating up all that chunk of paragraphs one by one. Nice@
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  • Profile picture of the author Andreas Quintana
    Well... I wouldn't do that unless the article has PLR rights ^^ Then you can even copy the whole thing xD
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    It depends on how well you re-write them, if you spin them to the point that they are hardly recognised from the originals then you would stand a good chance getting them ranked, but ideally you should just write or outsource your own
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    The great thing about these threads is it always allows me to add to my "people to NEVER buy WSO's or content from..." It's becoming a long list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      The great thing about these threads is it always allows me to add to my "people to NEVER buy WSO's or content from..." It's becoming a long list.
      Brilliant.

      Definately post of the week.

      You ought to see my list too
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  • Profile picture of the author jcruz
    I think that if you gather your information from several source's than there's nothing wrong with that. If you really think about half of the stuff out there is just rehashed and put in new words. Even product's that come out. If your going to take somebodies else's material, you might as well give the author credit. I think that this is where people go wrong, instead of just finding quality content for your readers, you spin an artilce to the point where it's barely readable to your viewers. And google's not stupid, if you can buy an $80 software to spin an article, i'm pretty sure a multi billion dollar company will figure out a way to see if your material is spun.

    Just like when you where in school and you had to give the author credit, i think it's the same way that google looks at material. . They know that it's not possible to have completly new unique quality material never seen under the sun . Just like you would cite your author's when you where in college for your reports.Your english teacher knew the material came from somewhere, as long as you show where you got your material Thats what google would want. There's just so much unreadable jibberish garbage content it's ridicoulous. This is where freemium content come's into play.
    If you do a mix of freemium content (discussed by sms) it makes sense. If you can't come up with good quality content on your own, the least you can do is find quality content that someone else has wrote it, but giving them the credit. And yes you can still put your keyword in the text. If you have a lot websites and are trying to build authority, which means cranking out minimum 3 article a week and keep your sites updated and fresh(Mind you i have 20). It's either going to cost you out the wazoo for article writer's or your going to spin garbage to the point where it's barely readable. Just find the balance. I think freemium content make's sense, i have heard of many people ranking their keywords with these types of articles before.
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  • Profile picture of the author supernal
    As inspiration for your own content, especially if you reference the article and who wrote it and where it's from, then that's fine. Taking it and reproducing it as your own after making some minimal changes is most certainly NOT acceptable.
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  • Profile picture of the author morrow66
    No its not right. Read other articles, Learn what its all about then write in your own words what you need to say.

    just my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author all4realwithme
    i think that every article on the web and essentially elsewhere is a rewrite of some sort. however i believe that copying an article from ezine and rewriting it to the core is not just boring but plainly silly as well. instead you should research a couple of articles on a particular subject, read through them and you will be surprised at the number of ideas that will come to mind to help you write an original article.
    just my 2 cents!!
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  • Profile picture of the author kaper7
    In general, I don't think it is right to copy someone else article and re-write it. There are instances that this practice is ok. here are a few example.
    1. An owner of a product has posted the article for the purpose of re-writing to promote their product
    2. An affiliate center has articles and instructions to re-write re-brand with your affiliate link and post.
    3. You've purchased plr articles with license to re-write and re-brand

    Other than the reasons given above, I would stay away from doing such practice. If you need articles in a hurry, there are simple formula you can use to crank up quality articles in no time. here is a quick summary of that fromula.
    1. choose a hot topic. (something that is currently being discuss on warrior forum for example
    2. Make sure that your topic not only generate interest but also related to your product
    2. Gather ideas and arrange them in a sensible order
    3. Make a checklist of important and beneficial content you are going to include
    4. As you read that hot topic mentioned in step 1, make a list of 5 or 6 important questions in the thread that people have asked and answer those question in your article.
    5. Use checklist and bullet points if possible to make article flow
    This should not take longer than 30 minutes and as you get better, you can do it in 15 minutes. Hope this helps, however if you just don't want do write, there are places you can get quality articles for very low cost. They will be researched, relevant and specific to what you want and most of all unique. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    Newspapers and magazines do this all the time - occasionally with hilarious consequences. Spoof articles are found online by lazy journos and re-written as fact.

    It's known as churnalism and it's extremely common.

    Re-writing press releases and articles found on the internet and publishing them in newspapers as original articles.

    According to a UK study (Cardiff Uni) 80% of newspaper articles were re-writings of articles found online. Around 10% of newspaper stories are reports based on original research.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Wizard
    If the source is offering the same or similar outcome, put the story into your own words, including some of the relevant material. Just beware of copyright obligations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brittany Kaitlyn
    Writing articles is a lot like writing a research paper.

    You need to research from multiple sources, compile the information, decide on what you will use, put it into your own words, and give credit to your sources if necessary.

    With a research paper, failure to do these things will most likely result in a failing grade and possibly even expulsion.

    Although the consequences won't be the same with an article, consider this:

    You pour your heart into an amazing article. You spent a lot of time writing and editing until you were satisfied with the final product. You post it on your website and relish in all the praise you get from those who read it. A little while later, you're researching for another article within the same niche and you stumble upon an article that looks scarily similar to your own masterpiece. After reading it further, you realize that it is your article that has just been spun to suit their specific purposes.

    How would that make you feel?

    Just something to consider.
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