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Bravo for Removing Sigs in the WSO Forum!

by E. Brian Rose
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I have recently noticed that the Warrior Forum is no longer showing members' signature lines in WSO threads. This is a fantastic move on the part of WF.

Too many people were abusing WSO threads by camping out and waiting for new threads to appear. They would post early on, in as many as they can, just to get their sig links on as many eyes as possible. Others were doing it to only WSOs that matched the subject of their sig links.

Both tactics are pitiful ways of generating traffic. If you are supposed to be a marketer, then go do some marketing. Leaching off of somebody else's paid advertising is low.

Good job removing the links from the WSO threads!
#bravo #forum #removing #sigs #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Jaymark
    I didn't realize that but it is probably a good thing. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

    I have recently noticed that the Warrior Forum is no longer showing members' signature lines in WSO threads. This is a fantastic move on the part of WF.

    Too many people were abusing WSO threads by camping out and waiting for new threads to appear. They would post early on, in as many as they can, just to get their sig links on as many eyes as possible. Others were doing it to only WSOs that matched the subject of their sig links.

    Both tactics are pitiful ways of generating traffic. If you are supposed to be a marketer, then go do some marketing. Leaching off of somebody else's paid advertising is low.

    Good job removing the links from the WSO threads!
    I agree! I have seen crap spam posters doing that so often..
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    I have noticed a few people who always seem to be one of the first to post on WSOs, like, every WSO I've looked at, lately. I am sure most of the time they are not buying that WSO, just trying to get their sig in there. LIke posts, like, "Looks like a great way to make money." etc. Pretty ridiculous.

    So, I agree it's a good move. However, would be nice if the person who posted the WSO could keep their signature in the thread or the first post, at least.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      I have noticed a few people who always seem to be one of the first to post on WSOs, like, every WSO I've looked at, lately. I am sure most of the time they are not buying that WSO, just trying to get their sig in there. LIke posts, like, "Looks like a great way to make money." etc. Pretty ridiculous.

      So, I agree it's a good move. However, would be nice if the person who posted the WSO could keep their signature in the thread or the first post, at least.
      Yeah it would be cool to let the WSO Poster be the only one to have a signature! That would be awesome
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
      Originally Posted by vanalli View Post

      Hadn't noticed that. Have never actually been in the WSO room haha. Will give it a look now.
      Wow. I thought that section was like the first place people go.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

    Too many people were abusing WSO threads by camping out and waiting for new threads to appear. They would post early on, in as many as they can, just to get their sig links on as many eyes as possible. Others were doing it to only WSOs that matched the subject of their sig links.

    Both tactics are pitiful ways of generating traffic. If you are supposed to be a marketer, then go do some marketing. Leaching off of somebody else's paid advertising is low.

    Good job removing the links from the WSO threads!

    Does this mean that fewer people will be commenting on my WSO's in the future?

    Say it isn't so! :p


    Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

    However, would be nice if the person who posted the WSO could keep their signature in the thread or the first post, at least.

    I was thinking just last night that we might need to list our other offers at the bottom of our sales pages in the WSO section.

    Should not be a problem inserting those signatures into our WSO post, because we have already paid for that top spot.
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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Should not be a problem inserting those signatures into our WSO post, because we have already paid for that top spot.
      I was just about to say the same thing. You don't need a sig line as the OP. You can add whatever you want to the bottom.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      I was thinking just last night that we might need to list our other offers at the bottom of our sales pages in the WSO section.

      Should not be a problem inserting those signatures into our WSO post, because we have already paid for that top spot.
      I've been listing my other offers in WSOs for a long time. Bryan Kumar has been doing the same, although he takes a different approach by weaving them into his copy.

      I've thought about taking "my" ad space and having a dozen different offers.

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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        I've been listing my other offers in WSOs for a long time. Bryan Kumar has been doing the same, although he takes a different approach by weaving them into his copy.

        I've thought about taking "my" ad space and having a dozen different offers.

        .

        To date, I have only listed my other offers on my After-the-Sale landing page, but I might start including them in my offer too.

        Of course, in some regards, you don't want to confuse your audience with multiple offers.

        Yet, if people don't like this offer, they might like one of your other offers better.

        It is hard to know which option is best, since pulling tracking information from the WF is next to impossible.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          It is hard to know which option is best, since pulling tracking information from the WF is next to impossible.
          Bill,

          If I'm understanding your statement, wouldn't a special price ($19.98 vs $19.97, as an example) allow you to see which 'buy now' button your offer was bought through?

          ~Bill
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          • Profile picture of the author Aussie Edwin
            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Bill,

            If I'm understanding your statement, wouldn't a special price ($19.98 vs $19.97, as an example) allow you to see which 'buy now' button your offer was bought through?

            ~Bill
            Bill that is a fantastic idea indeed!

            You would then be able to see at a glance via paypal which one is getting the most purchases.

            It just goes to show sometimes a problem only needs a simple souloution as Bill has shown.

            Off to go play now
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

            Bill,

            If I'm understanding your statement, wouldn't a special price ($19.98 vs $19.97, as an example) allow you to see which 'buy now' button your offer was bought through?

            ~Bill

            I think you misunderstood what I was talking about.

            The only way I can track where my traffic is coming from and what traffic is converting is to put all of the sales pages on my own domains.

            If I am linking to other WSO's inside of my signature, which I do often, then I don't have any tools beyond instinct to tell me whether my marketing strategies are working or not.

            When I sell to people through a WSO, I link the WSO offers in my post-pay pages.

            When I sell the same products through other sources, I link to my sales pages outside of the Warrior Forum.

            I know that if one of my WSO's is selling well, I can pretty much understand where the sales of other products are coming from.

            I also know that when I have an active day in the forum, certain offers in my signature start selling again, even if the WSO is on page 21 or page 56 in the WSO forum.

            Except through tracking URL's, I have no way to know if linking to an offer in the bottom of my WSO helps or hurts sales for the WSO listed and my other product offers.

            All in all, this is not something that I wrestle with because the sig files were turned off. It is something I wrestle with every day on every product I list for sale in the WSO forum.

            What is working and what is not working?

            All I can do is guess, based on certain patterns...

            And that just isn't as reliable as I would like...
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        • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          Of course, in some regards, you don't want to confuse your audience with multiple offers.

          Yet, if people don't like this offer, they might like one of your other offers better.
          Quite a few times I've checked out a WSO, seen the other offers in the sig, and then gone on to buy one of those products instead of the original WSO.

          So, yeah.
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          • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
            Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

            Quite a few times I've checked out a WSO, seen the other offers in the sig, and then gone on to buy one of those products instead of the original WSO.

            So, yeah.
            My point exactly. I for one would never even give the satisfaction of clicking on a spammer's link, but many people do.
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
              Sometimes I think I know a fair amount of stuff, but being first to post on someone's WSO to spam a link was something I never thought anyone would do. I had been looking through a few of the offers and could not figure out why the same people were always first to psot.
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            • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
              Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

              My point exactly. I for one would never even give the satisfaction of clicking on a spammer's link, but many people do.
              NO, you misunderstand. I buy a product from the WSO owner, just not the product he's advertising in that thread. I don't click on a spammer's links. Geez.
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        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        I've been listing my other offers in WSOs for a long time. Bryan Kumar has been doing the same, although he takes a different approach by weaving them into his copy.

        I've thought about taking "my" ad space and having a dozen different offers.

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        I've often wondered why people haven't gotten way more creative with their ad space in that section. There are a ton of things that could be done that might work like crazy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
          Originally Posted by admin View Post

          I've often wondered why people haven't gotten way more creative with their ad space in that section. There are a ton of things that could be done that might work like crazy.
          Well, feel free to send me a PM on the subject and I'll see about running some tests.
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    The ingenuity of people to try to find short cuts and or hone in on others success amazes me. I am not smart enough to come up with these idea myself, but there is a never ending supply of people that have figure it out.
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      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      The ingenuity of people to try to find short cuts and or hone in on others success amazes me. I am not smart enough to come up with these idea myself, but there is a never ending supply of people that have figure it out.
      It's not that you're not smart enough, you're just not in the 'scammer' or 'rule bender' mindset.

      Those of us who aren't always looking for an 'easy way' or a slick (unethical) angle don't tend to think along those lines.

      If that makes you stupid, then I guess that makes two of us

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        Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

        It's not that you're not smart enough, you're just not in the 'scammer' or 'rule bender' mindset.

        Those of us who aren't always looking for an 'easy way' or a slick (unethical) angle don't tend to think along those lines.

        If that makes you stupid, then I guess that makes two of us

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        Nicely said!
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  • Profile picture of the author TEC
    I think it's a good thing! I did notice it when I put up my first WSO, but just thought that people were not having anything in there sig, lol. I think it's a great move
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    • Profile picture of the author QuickSurf
      They should do it for the Off Topic section as well, so much spam there... I swear some post make no sense, either their spamming or they have 1/4 brain.
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  • Profile picture of the author azmanar
    Hi,

    I was wondering why there are a couple of thousands hanging around the WSO forum every time and every day.

    Probably now you'll see lesser.

    At least we see real comments than spams..
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Here is the thread that lead to the Sigs being removed from all the paid
    sections on the forum with the exception of the War Room.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-spammers.html

    Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaitlyn Aliano
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Here is the thread that lead to the Sigs being removed from all the paid
      sections on the forum with the exception of the War Room.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-spammers.html

      Have a Great Day!
      Michael
      Brilliant! I was curious as to whether the change was announced or done discreetly. Thank you, Michael.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    The sig file spammers never really bothered me too much on our threads. But glad to see the situation cleaned up nonetheless.

    Next thing how about making all sig file links on the forum nofollows?

    That will clean up the anchor text sig spammers even more so.
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  • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
    Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

    I have recently noticed that the Warrior Forum is no longer showing members' signature lines in WSO threads. This is a fantastic move on the part of WF.

    Too many people were abusing WSO threads by camping out and waiting for new threads to appear. They would post early on, in as many as they can, just to get their sig links on as many eyes as possible. Others were doing it to only WSOs that matched the subject of their sig links.

    Both tactics are pitiful ways of generating traffic. If you are supposed to be a marketer, then go do some marketing. Leaching off of somebody else's paid advertising is low.

    Good job removing the links from the WSO threads!
    I never did this, but what exactly is the harm in people doing that? That is, how does it harm you, or anyone or anything? Or is it that you just don't like it?
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    • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
      I was thinking that one of the primary reasons this forum works is because they allow links in the signature which motivates people to post and help each other.

      The occasional "abusing" of it does not undermine or destroy the overall value we all gain from a system of financial motivation and even competition.

      In many ways it's genius. If we get rid of signatures, a lot will lose the motivation to post and help others.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post

        I was thinking that one of the primary reasons this forum works is because they allow links in the signature which motivates people to post and help each other.

        The occasional "abusing" of it does not undermine or destroy the overall value we all gain from a system of financial motivation and even competition.

        In many ways it's genius. If we get rid of signatures, a lot will lose the motivation to post and help others.

        We are not talking about losing signature files in the entire forum.

        We are talking about the loss of the sig file in the WSO sub-forum, where the person who opened the thread paid an advertising fee to put their offer in the Warrior Special Offer sub-forum.

        The pro's and con's of such a change were discussed by many Warriors out in the open where everyone could see it, then a decision was made by the admin.

        The sub-forum was being abused by certain individuals, who were trying to advertise on the WSO-vendors dollar, instead of using the thread to ask questions about an offer and give reviews about the purchased offer as they were supposed to be doing.

        The question was how to restrain those who were abusing the system, not how to stop everyone from participating.

        Three possible solutions were offered:
        1. Leave things unchanged.
        2. Remove signature files in the Special Offers sub-forum.
        3. Strip HTML from the signature files in the Special Offers sub-forum.

        The cost of each one would have resulted in:
        1. The abusers would have been able to continue with their activities unabated and moderators would have to continue chasing individuals.
        2. An hours worth of programming.
        3. More than a few hours worth of programming.

        Valid arguments were made for each position, then a decision was made by the only person, who is entitled to make decisions regarding this website -- the person who pays the bills.
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        • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          We are not talking about losing signature files in the entire forum.

          We are talking about the loss of the sig file in the WSO sub-forum, where the person who opened the thread paid an advertising fee to put their offer in the Warrior Special Offer sub-forum.

          The pro's and con's of such a change were discussed by many Warriors out in the open where everyone could see it, then a decision was made by the admin.

          The sub-forum was being abused by certain individuals, who were trying to advertise on the WSO-vendors dollar, instead of using the thread to ask questions about an offer and give reviews about the purchased offer as they were supposed to be doing.

          The question was how to restrain those who were abusing the system, not how to stop everyone from participating.

          Three possible solutions were offered:
          1. Leave things unchanged.
          2. Remove signature files in the Special Offers sub-forum.
          3. Strip HTML from the signature files in the Special Offers sub-forum.

          The cost of each one would have resulted in:
          1. The abusers would have been able to continue with their activities unabated and moderators would have to continue chasing individuals.
          2. An hours worth of programming.
          3. More than a few hours worth of programming.

          Valid arguments were made for each position, then a decision was made by the only person, who is entitled to make decisions regarding this website -- the person who pays the bills.
          I understand/stood why it was done and that it was for the WSO section.

          I was attempting to warn about the path this forum risks going down - banning all signatures. If signatures are banned, I would not post here nearly as much. I enjoy helping people who are new, but being allowed to advertise my sig (to help people and yes make me money) is a big part of that motivation.

          I get the sense that those who make good money from this forum run around looking for things to complain about or things that must "stop". (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).

          All the while my instinct is to say - the free nature of this forum is what makes it work and what makes it great! lol, So all I'm often saying is.. Tread lightly.

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          • Profile picture of the author Rashell
            Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post

            I understand/stood why it was done and that it was for the WSO section.

            I was attempting to warn about the path this forum risks going down - banning all signatures. If signatures are banned, I would not post here nearly as much. I enjoy helping people who are new, but being allowed to advertise my sig (to help people and yes make me money) is a big part of that motivation.

            I get the sense that those who make good money from this forum run around looking for things to complain about or things that must "stop". (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).

            All the while my instinct is to say - the free nature of this forum is what makes it work and what makes it great! lol, So all I'm often saying is.. Tread lightly.

            The WSO section isn't free (by nature). It makes sense to remove "free" and competing ads.

            Can't see why it would adversely affect the WF as a whole. Either the spammers will leave or they'll have to participate in the other areas of the WF in order to have their sig seen. Sure they could use the same spam tactics but they won't be able to do it when someone's in "buying" mode.

            As it was, they wasted both digital space and the precious time of each warrior forced to scan through their useless banter to get the details on the product they were actually there for.

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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post

            I get the sense that those who make good money from this forum run around looking for things to complain about or things that must "stop". (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).

            Things don't actually operate like that around here. But there are some folks who come to the WF whose paranoia meter is off the charts. (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).
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            • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              Things don't actually operate like that around here. But there are some folks who come to the WF whose paranoia meter is off the charts. (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).
              I'm thinking of trademarking that final line. In other good news, I am now a War Room Member. Too many WSO's in there to go through them all.
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              • Profile picture of the author tpw
                Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post

                I'm thinking of trademarking that final line. In other good news, I am now a War Room Member. Too many WSO's in there to go through them all.

                Does that mean that you decided that if you could not beat the conspiracy, the best thing would be to join it?

                Secret Handshake: Na-Na-Noo
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                • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
                  Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                  Does that mean that you decided that if you could not beat the conspiracy, the best thing would be to join it?

                  Secret Handshake: Na-Na-Noo
                  Oh...go a head and show it,

                  Here:

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          • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
            Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post


            I get the sense that those who make good money from this forum run around looking for things to complain about or things that must "stop". (and if this isn't you, then don't interpret it as such).
            Perhaps your spidee senses have gone awry. Those that make good money around these parts make good money because they are are keen on when they are getting taken for a ride and do their part to stop it... not necessarily just here, but everywhere. Those that allow themselves to get walked on don't usually come out ahead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Honest Abel
    I agree. More honest dialog this way.

    However, I've got to ask... doesn't this happen on other threads too. Seems like I've seen the same people posting in recurring topic threads with a signature to match... some do offer value, others don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    I think the number of warriors contributing will fall sharply. A large percentage of warriors found WF a good advertising platform and were motivated in responding to threads. I don't support spammers but we should be allowed to advertise our services/products.

    Remember just because there's a signature, it doesn't mean that warriors will buy. We should have it reinstated and ban the spammers for good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josiah
    This was a great move, I wholeheartedly support any unobtrusive anti-spam measures. You'd think they would be more clever with their marketing, perhaps they should invest in a WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    I agree. So. Have you guys checked out my signature lately? Lol. I kid I kid. Those people that were doing that remind me of campers in call of duty online Blah.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

      I agree. So. Have you guys checked out my signature lately? Lol. I kid I kid. Those people that were doing that remind me of campers in call of duty online Blah.
      lol...I've been a Soldier for 10 years now, but, I'll openly admit, my real-world Soldiering skills don't translate well to COD...

      I REALLY hope I wasn't one of those campers that annoyed the heck out of you...lol

      Those discrete corners are just so warm and safe
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        lol...I've been a Soldier for 10 years now, but, I'll openly admit, my real-world Soldiering skills don't translate well to COD...

        I REALLY hope I wasn't one of those campers that annoyed the heck out of you...lol

        Those discrete corners are just so warm and safe
        Lol. Even if you were, I forgive you because of your service to our country.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    All and all I think this will lead to a much cleaner WSO section. I hate going to read reviews on a WSO and only seeing spam link juice posts for the first two pages.
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      Banned
      Whew....saved once more from yet another non-issue. We can all sleep soundly again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
    It's a good move and will remove spam replies. However, correct me if I am wrong but every reply bumps up the WSO thread, right?

    I do like this move though but it's sad the forum had to do it because of sig link spammers. I guess the old saying really is true, one bad apple really does spoil the whole bunch.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidTT
    lol never though about it this way. No wonder I got a few simple basic posts
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Kennedy
    Wasn't there a massive thread complaining about sig spammers in the WSO section only a few days ago? It's good to see the admin/mod team responding so quickly. Well done Allen and Paul! (and to whoever else was responsible).
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  • Profile picture of the author sscot
    If not, warrior forum decided to remove signatures form WSO section.....

    perhaps,

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Awesome. It's just a shame that people have to be that grubby that they need to be regulated like this. I hope this drops the percentage of scum invading the forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by hongshi View Post

      yeah ,I think so!
      Can everyone, except Higherprthangod obviously, report this spammer whose put "I think so" and attempted to spam the forum in all of his threads so far.

      Have a look at all his posts, really picked a great thread to do this one in.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Agreed!!!

    I can't (or don't want to) imagine how much business I have lost because of these leeches!

    Good work WF!
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  • Profile picture of the author tjonesga
    What's really funny to me is that we are taught how to "Market" and told to market any and everywhere we can, so we do. Then some of the very people that come up with the brillant ideas in the first place are the very people that hate to be "marketed" to. I have and will always say " if you don't like the channel you are watching, then change the channel or turn the set off. To me, all marketers should appaud the efforts of others doing the same thing. Just saying....
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by tjonesga View Post

      What's really funny to me is that we are taught how to "Market" and told to market any and everywhere we can, so we do. Then some of the very people that come up with the brillant ideas in the first place are the very people that hate to be "marketed" to. I have and will always say " if you don't like the channel you are watching, then change the channel or turn the set off. To me, all marketers should appaud the efforts of others doing the same thing. Just saying....
      Wait. There's a big difference between marketing and spamming places with scant regards for the TOS of the site.

      The reason sigs were turned off was to stop people link spamming by going up to threads that have just appeared in the WSO section and saying ingenious things like "Looks interesting..."

      That is not marketing, that is complete BS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Reno Van Boven
    Great move! I hate spammers, that's not what internet marketing is about.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Peters Benn
    yeah! Fantastic move! I always looked forward to half hearted, unrelated comments that would pop in anything I posted there
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    will be a good effect for the seller.
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    Maybe one of the WSO's was teaching ppl to do that... but apparently instead of posting something useful they were posting crap else this would probably not have been discovered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Lambency
    I noticed that too.. sig links are okay, but they're not what forum marketing is about. If someone's camping out in the WSO section just to leave a comment and get their signature link exposure, it's pretty small thinking.

    Why not drop a WSO? Why not run a banner ad campaign and build a list? Why not make some friends with other marketers in your niche and get a JV going?

    Signature spamming? really??
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