Any Craigslist Marketers Here?

by DIABL0
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I have a question regarding PVA's.

I have had good success marketing in my local area, but I need to go nationwide. Obviously that presents a problem.

For the past 5 days (Fri-Tue), each day that I posted I was required to reverify my number. I have been posting for about 3-4 weeks before this started happening. Is this normal?

If I just post every 48 hours, which is the min amount of time CL requires to pass, how often may I be required to reverify a number?

Also, Fri-Sun, all my posts were being ghosted. So I skipped trying to post yesterday and then was able to post today with out being ghosted.

Why would I be ghosted? For the past 10 days I have been reposting every 48 hours per CL requirements. Prior to that I was posting every 24 hours, sometimes 48. So there was period where I was over posting.

In the past 30 days I was flagged one time. I think it was just because I was using some characters in front of the subject that really made the post stick out from all the rest.

If it matters, every time I repost, I delete the old one. Lately I just use the renew feature to renew the post, which automatically deletes the old post and repost it.

Thoughts on all this?

My big concern is that if I use multiple PVA's, if there comes a point that I have to reverify the numbers everyday, this is going to kill everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    You can get around the reverifying by purchasing landline numbers that are forwarded to your cell phone. I won't say where due to Rules here. A simple google search will help. Also your ads could be getting ghosted due to the fact that your IP don't match the post region. Try getting a vpn service.
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  • Thanks for that blillard I was wondering how I could get around the phone verifying.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    I did some searching and eventually found some companies that offered forwarding numbers specifically for CL phone verification. The companies offering the numbers specifically for CL are also the cheapest. Funny thing is that I already have come across some companies before when search for PVA's. They mainly advertised their PVA's and not the numbers.

    So I have a couple more questions to anyone marketing on a large scale on CL.

    1. How important is it that the area code of the number you use to do the phone verification be local to the area you are posting in.

    2. How important is it that the IP you are using be local to the area you are posting in?
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    • Profile picture of the author billsoriano
      it is very important that the phone numbers are your local area code or the area code close to the location of the IP on your computer, if not you won't get the call from craigslist with the code to verify the account
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  • Profile picture of the author Tedel
    I also have a question about this: Can't you just have one CL account, and use it to post on many cities (given that the ads are all different, of course).
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by Tedel View Post

      I also have a question about this: Can't you just have one CL account, and use it to post on many cities (given that the ads are all different, of course).
      I have only been marketing on CL for a month and only in my area, but the way I see it is this...

      Their Terms of Service says you can only post in your area.

      If you have an account and log into it, you can pull up a listing of all your posts for the last 180 days and it lists the city for each post. So I have to imagine it wouldn't be hard for them to tell that you are posting in multiple cities.

      Even if you don't have an account, you still have to enter in your email address, so they still know what is being posted. Even if you use multiple emails, it's just a matter of time before they will ask you to verify your phone number and any one phone number can only be associated with a single email address.
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      • Profile picture of the author Laurie Rogers
        I have been advertising on CL probably for about 8 years or so, number verification started about 3 years ago, but only in certain categories. If they're ghosting your ads, that means someone is flagging them (but you're not getting enough flags to get the ad banned aka your account), because they don't like some of the content in your ad or you are using words that they don't really deem appropriate.

        You CAN post in other cities, but you need to reword your ads and what they're saying is, that people don't like to see the SAME ads in different categories/cities. It's simple, use a new headline and new content within the ad, but with the same general concept of what you're pitching.

        You can post 3 ads per day from one account, so make the most of it and what I did was, grabbed a couple of used pay as you go phone's, verified the numbers and then changed them after a couple of months - because here in Canada it's like $10 to change a cell number on one of those phones.
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      • Profile picture of the author Laurie Rogers
        And this is where proxies come in handy, using different browsers etc.

        Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

        you still have to enter in your email address, so they still know what is being posted. Even if you use multiple emails, it's just a matter of time before they will ask you to verify your phone number and any one phone number can only be associated with a single email address.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tillman
          Just ask your family and friends to help you verify the account...majority of them dont use craigslist to post...I could get into some real dirty stuff on how to get plenty of people to help you verify the account but we're not going into that and keep it white hat lol
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunburke
    I recently tried a CL heavy wso and with me being in the UK, CL has fallen out with me big time. Not a predictable traffic source for me at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author AZB-LL
      Hi I am trying to promote on craigslist in Canada and am having a very tough time.. I have CLAD but i need numbers and a reasonble proxy source or solution..

      If you could help with any of this maybe we can work something out.

      Thanks
      Adam
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      • Profile picture of the author andynathan
        Originally Posted by AZB-LL View Post

        Hi I am trying to promote on craigslist in Canada and am having a very tough time.. I have CLAD but i need numbers and a reasonble proxy source or solution..

        If you could help with any of this maybe we can work something out.

        Thanks
        Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author Dresden14
    I personally think craigslist is a waste of time. I devoted alot of time and dedication into both direct mail and craigslist. I'd probably consider trying it again, but blah. I was closing about 1 to 1.5% of the applications I got (meaning for 100 applications I was enrolling 1 or 1 1/2). For comparison, SEO leads get me about 13% (100 apps 13 enrollments). So ive been working more into SEO. But blah to cl.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Dresden14 View Post

      I personally think craigslist is a waste of time.
      If I thought that I would be missing out on 3-5K a month with just a couple hours put into it.

      To the OP, your ads are ghosting because you have too many flags and because you are using too similar ads to those that have already been flagged.

      Prepaid phones are great... I post about 50 ads a day, and when I double that with emails, I can make more sales in 3 days than most people can in a month.

      Craigslist is a gold mine, if you guys want to give up on it, that is cool with me, more action for me!
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      • Profile picture of the author clpostprochica
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        If I thought that I would be missing out on 3-5K a month with just a couple hours put into it.

        To the OP, your ads are ghosting because you have too many flags and because you are using too similar ads to those that have already been flagged.

        Prepaid phones are great... I post about 50 ads a day, and when I double that with emails, I can make more sales in 3 days than most people can in a month.

        Craigslist is a gold mine, if you guys want to give up on it, that is cool with me, more action for me!
        Prepaid phones still work?
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          But even if I use other peoples phone numbers or pre-paid phones, won't CL still have issues if I'm posting multiple ads from the same IP address?

          Also, can anyone recommend definitive information on posting multiple CL ads in multiple cities without getting ghosted? I would be willing to pay for it of course and it would need to be info that is updated as CL makes changes. Anyone?

          Thanks

          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
            Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

            But even if I use other peoples phone numbers or pre-paid phones, won't CL still have issues if I'm posting multiple ads from the same IP address?

            Also, can anyone recommend definitive information on posting multiple CL ads in multiple cities without getting ghosted? I would be willing to pay for it of course and it would need to be info that is updated as CL makes changes. Anyone?

            Thanks

            Steve
            I post all the way from NYC to LA to MIAMI. I use the same IP. If you're using PVA's, the first verification is all that matters anyway, as that is not your IP address. Proxies, will get you ghosted. Flagged ads, reposted, will get you ghosted. Attempting to go over 3 posts a day will get you ghosted. Posting within 5 minutes of each other is not a good idea. If you used your friends phoneline, then the best way around it is to use your smart phone to post the first ad, as the smart phones will be able to have new IPs regularly.
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            • Profile picture of the author magentawave
              Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

              I post all the way from NYC to LA to MIAMI. I use the same IP. If you're using PVA's, the first verification is all that matters anyway, as that is not your IP address. Proxies, will get you ghosted. Flagged ads, reposted, will get you ghosted. Attempting to go over 3 posts a day will get you ghosted. Posting within 5 minutes of each other is not a good idea. If you used your friends phoneline, then the best way around it is to use your smart phone to post the first ad, as the smart phones will be able to have new IPs regularly.
              Hey thanks for taking the time to reply, and to make sure I understand you correctly...

              1) Are you saying don't post more than 3 ads per day per PVA? So if I have 10 PVA's, I could post 30 different ads per day (3 x 10 = 30 ads) regardless of what city I post them in and even if I post them all from the same IP?

              2) Do you ever repost an existing ad? If so, how long do you wait to repost? If not, do you post the exact same ad again in the same area? If so, how long do you wait to post the same ad? If not, do you post with a totally different ad in the same area?

              Thanks again.
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              • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                Hey thanks for taking the time to reply, and to make sure I understand you correctly...

                1) Are you saying don't post more than 3 ads per day per PVA? So if I have 10 PVA's, I could post 30 different ads per day (3 x 10 = 30 ads) regardless of what city I post them in and even if I post them all from the same IP?

                2) Do you ever repost an existing ad? If so, how long do you wait to repost? If not, do you post the exact same ad again in the same area? If so, how long do you wait to post the same ad? If not, do you post with a totally different ad in the same area?

                Thanks again.
                If you even attempt to post a 4th ad, then you will get a warning message that your account exceeded the limit. Once that happens, you will notice a 50% ghosting rate on all ads in the future, and about a 90% ghosting rate on the city you attempted to post that 4th ad on.

                People will recommend not posting more than once every 48 hours with a PVA. I don't listen to them, but I spend money money and a lot of time on it.

                Yes I repost expired ads, other than that they all have to be somewhat unique. They are reposted in the exact same city.

                Using one account is not a problem. Just clear your cookies, and if possible verify your account on a smart phone, where the IP changes all the time. Best success is when the first ad is done on a different IP. The email verification + first ad = the most important part of the process. If possible, do it on a smart phone. Turn airplane mode on, then back off, and you have a new IP to repeat the process.

                Never outsource your ads overseas, it won't work. Never use proxies, it won't work.

                When you get flagged, you risk being ghosted. Its good to have non competitive ads to downplay the ghosting. There are ratios involved in their flagging system. If 10 times you post in sacramento under financial, and 7 times you get flagged, you will get ghosted. So instead of having a competing ad, do something that your competitors will view as neutral to reduce your post to flagging ratios.

                There is so much involved that I have learned doing craigslist, I can't cover it all here, LOL. I have considered doing a WSO, but it is so valuable to me that even 50K in sales doesn't even tempt me in giving it up lol.
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                • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                  Originally Posted by infinitegary View Post

                  i have wonderful ips that dont even require pvas to post each post gets a new ip every 10 mins its so awesome. been using them for months and months now
                  Originally Posted by infinitegary View Post

                  Yes in services section and personals section obviously the no pva needed statement dont apply.
                  Kind of useless, is it not? Don't need an account for some sections on CL.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  If you even attempt to post a 4th ad, then you will get a warning message that your account exceeded the limit. Once that happens, you will notice a 50% ghosting rate on all ads in the future, and about a 90% ghosting rate on the city you attempted to post that 4th ad on.
                  I think I have posted over 4 before and never had that message. Although, I if I recall correctly, I've deleted before posting again. So it would be 4 active ads? Speaking same day.

                  If an account does get abused, either from competitors flagging you or just silliness, is it true if you let it rest a few days, it will go back to not ghosting ads? Or once an account is "dead" it stays that way?

                  Lastly, so a service like HMA you think won't work? I have had success posting using it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                    Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

                    I think I have posted over 4 before and never had that message. Although, I if I recall correctly, I've deleted before posting again. So it would be 4 active ads? Speaking same day.

                    If an account does get abused, either from competitors flagging you or just silliness, is it true if you let it rest a few days, it will go back to not ghosting ads? Or once an account is "dead" it stays that way?

                    Lastly, so a service like HMA you think won't work? I have had success posting using it.
                    Posting 4 ads a day is exceeding the posting limit. It isn't possible on one account and when you try, you get ghosted.

                    Letting an account "rest" doesn't allow you to bypass the filter. People say that, but it isn't exactly true. A good resting time is 30-45 days when the flagging expired. I have now, just in the past week been able to continue posting in phoenix after being ghosted for 45 days.

                    HMA, you can try but then you are more likely to ruin a good account forever. The problem is, if you use HMA, you're risking a toss up between a level 1 or level 2 proxy. Waste of time and money in my opinion since that PVA will no longer be good if it is a lvl 2. I have NEVER seen anyone post the same volume I do, with HMA, and have higher than a 20% posting rate. When you get unlucky and end up with a lvl 2 proxy, it is basically telling craigslist, hey, I'm using a proxy, ghost me now.
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                • Profile picture of the author amarketing
                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  If you even attempt to post a 4th ad, then you will get a warning message that your account exceeded the limit. Once that happens, you will notice a 50% ghosting rate on all ads in the future, and about a 90% ghosting rate on the city you attempted to post that 4th ad on.

                  People will recommend not posting more than once every 48 hours with a PVA. I don't listen to them, but I spend money money and a lot of time on it.

                  Yes I repost expired ads, other than that they all have to be somewhat unique. They are reposted in the exact same city.

                  Using one account is not a problem. Just clear your cookies, and if possible verify your account on a smart phone, where the IP changes all the time. Best success is when the first ad is done on a different IP. The email verification + first ad = the most important part of the process. If possible, do it on a smart phone. Turn airplane mode on, then back off, and you have a new IP to repeat the process.

                  Never outsource your ads overseas, it won't work. Never use proxies, it won't work.

                  When you get flagged, you risk being ghosted. Its good to have non competitive ads to downplay the ghosting. There are ratios involved in their flagging system. If 10 times you post in sacramento under financial, and 7 times you get flagged, you will get ghosted. So instead of having a competing ad, do something that your competitors will view as neutral to reduce your post to flagging ratios.

                  There is so much involved that I have learned doing craigslist, I can't cover it all here, LOL. I have considered doing a WSO, but it is so valuable to me that even 50K in sales doesn't even tempt me in giving it up lol.

                  There's a lot of great information here.

                  I've never really focused on CL due to the extra hoops you have to jump through. However, just as this poster indicates, there is a lot of profit to be made if you do CL effectively.
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                • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  If you even attempt to post a 4th ad, then you will get a warning message that your account exceeded the limit. Once that happens, you will notice a 50% ghosting rate on all ads in the future, and about a 90% ghosting rate on the city you attempted to post that 4th ad on.

                  People will recommend not posting more than once every 48 hours with a PVA. I don't listen to them, but I spend money money and a lot of time on it.

                  Yes I repost expired ads, other than that they all have to be somewhat unique. They are reposted in the exact same city.

                  Using one account is not a problem. Just clear your cookies, and if possible verify your account on a smart phone, where the IP changes all the time. Best success is when the first ad is done on a different IP. The email verification + first ad = the most important part of the process. If possible, do it on a smart phone. Turn airplane mode on, then back off, and you have a new IP to repeat the process.

                  Never outsource your ads overseas, it won't work. Never use proxies, it won't work.

                  When you get flagged, you risk being ghosted. Its good to have non competitive ads to downplay the ghosting. There are ratios involved in their flagging system. If 10 times you post in sacramento under financial, and 7 times you get flagged, you will get ghosted. So instead of having a competing ad, do something that your competitors will view as neutral to reduce your post to flagging ratios.

                  There is so much involved that I have learned doing craigslist, I can't cover it all here, LOL. I have considered doing a WSO, but it is so valuable to me that even 50K in sales doesn't even tempt me in giving it up lol.
                  Wow, that is really cool about how to change IP's by turning on and off Airplane Mode. I just tried it and it works. I've seen that function on my phone but until now had no idea what the heck it was for. And little did I know you could use it for top secret IM purposes! Technology is so cool.

                  You da man, man. Thanks!
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                  • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                    I read somewhere that CL allows unlimited posts in the Real Estate section. Is that true? Just asking because I know a realtor that slams a bunch of ads daily on CL in different towns and is totally clueless about IP's and all this other stuff.
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                    • Profile picture of the author netguy12
                      Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                      I read somewhere that CL allows unlimited posts in the Real Estate section. Is that true? Just asking because I know a realtor that slams a bunch of ads daily on CL in different towns and is totally clueless about IP's and all this other stuff.
                      I dont know about that for sure but I see it all the time (I work in real estate) and it bugs the hell out of me that certain agents spam it with the same listing.
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                • Profile picture of the author Slugger_mn
                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                  If you even attempt to post a 4th ad, then you will get a warning message that your account exceeded the limit. Once that happens, you will notice a 50% ghosting rate on all ads in the future, and about a 90% ghosting rate on the city you attempted to post that 4th ad on.

                  People will recommend not posting more than once every 48 hours with a PVA. I don't listen to them, but I spend money money and a lot of time on it.

                  Yes I repost expired ads, other than that they all have to be somewhat unique. They are reposted in the exact same city.

                  Using one account is not a problem. Just clear your cookies, and if possible verify your account on a smart phone, where the IP changes all the time. Best success is when the first ad is done on a different IP. The email verification + first ad = the most important part of the process. If possible, do it on a smart phone. Turn airplane mode on, then back off, and you have a new IP to repeat the process.

                  Never outsource your ads overseas, it won't work. Never use proxies, it won't work.

                  When you get flagged, you risk being ghosted. Its good to have non competitive ads to downplay the ghosting. There are ratios involved in their flagging system. If 10 times you post in sacramento under financial, and 7 times you get flagged, you will get ghosted. So instead of having a competing ad, do something that your competitors will view as neutral to reduce your post to flagging ratios.

                  There is so much involved that I have learned doing craigslist, I can't cover it all here, LOL. I have considered doing a WSO, but it is so valuable to me that even 50K in sales doesn't even tempt me in giving it up lol.

                  Couldnt agree more, i am not in the mood to make more competition for myself. I have been posting on CL for a very long time, and the knowledge I have isnt leaving my head easily
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
              Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

              I post all the way from NYC to LA to MIAMI. I use the same IP. If you're using PVA's, the first verification is all that matters anyway, as that is not your IP address. Proxies, will get you ghosted. Flagged ads, reposted, will get you ghosted. Attempting to go over 3 posts a day will get you ghosted. Posting within 5 minutes of each other is not a good idea. If you used your friends phoneline, then the best way around it is to use your smart phone to post the first ad, as the smart phones will be able to have new IPs regularly.
              Couldn't verifying your account at the library or a coffee shop work too, for that first IP?
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      • Profile picture of the author 7figs
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        If I thought that I would be missing out on 3-5K a month with just a couple hours put into it.

        To the OP, your ads are ghosting because you have too many flags and because you are using too similar ads to those that have already been flagged.

        Prepaid phones are great... I post about 50 ads a day, and when I double that with emails, I can make more sales in 3 days than most people can in a month.

        Craigslist is a gold mine, if you guys want to give up on it, that is cool with me, more action for me!
        Folks, I agree with IAmNameLess' last statement coz' one thing that separates the "men from the boys" is their willingness to dig a little deeper into the rock and find the hidden nuggets.

        I've been an avid user of CL for the past 2 years, posting 5 ads at a time for one particular topic in one specific location. The ROI is exceptional, which is why I keep doing it 2x a week.

        Even though my approach is successful, I'm currently researching numerous threads because I want to learn how to scale up and out into other markets.

        (((Hint)))
        One thing I keep noticing over and over, is that IAmNameLess keeps showing up in these threads with some very insightful (and based on my own experience) accurate tips.

        Scattered though they may be, it's like following a fresh crumb trail to the person hiding under a bridge enjoying some very delicious homemade pastry pie!

        If you want a big piece of that pie, my suggestion is separate yourself from the naysayer's who say it's "too difficult...can't be done", and whatever you do keep looking! ;-)
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        • Profile picture of the author wealth1
          You can avoid ghosting if you 1. write good ads not use spam type words.
          2. Don't over post on an ip.
          3. Have a way that WORKS to change your ip address.

          All three must be correct to avoid ghosting.
          My signature link will give you more information.
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  • Profile picture of the author IamTJM
    A major pain with Craigslist is that anyone can flag your posts even if it is completely within TOS. For example, my friend was trying to post his pit bull for sale and every single time, it would get taken down. We suspected it was being flagged by people trying to ban the breed after a quick search yielded no pit bulls at all in the area or surrounding areas.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by IamTJM View Post

      A major pain with Craigslist is that anyone can flag your posts even if it is completely within TOS. For example, my friend was trying to post his pit bull for sale and every single time, it would get taken down. We suspected it was being flagged by people trying to ban the breed after a quick search yielded no pit bulls at all in the area or surrounding areas.
      Yeah this is a major problem. It also doesn't help if you are trying to offer a service, you get your competitors wanting to flag everybody lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author infinitegary
    i have wonderful ips that dont even require pvas to post each post gets a new ip every 10 mins its so awesome. been using them for months and months now
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  • Profile picture of the author infinitegary
    since my post count isnt 50 or more i cant respond to any pms about my ips add me to skype if you want granzow76
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    • Profile picture of the author infinitegary
      Yes in services section and personals section obviously the no pva needed statement dont apply.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Ouch. So I may have ruined a couple of accounts for good? And if I read it right, the sign up / activation IP is the important one, then it doesn't matter if the accounts have your home one? Or can you get your home IP blocked too? Anyway to tell if a proxy is level 1 or 2?

    Too bad my smart phone doesn't like connecting lol.

    And thanks, for giving out as much as you are.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      Ouch. So I may have ruined a couple of accounts for good? And if I read it right, the sign up / activation IP is the important one, then it doesn't matter if the accounts have your home one? Or can you get your home IP blocked too? Anyway to tell if a proxy is level 1 or 2?

      Too bad my smart phone doesn't like connecting lol.

      And thanks, for giving out as much as you are.
      Its possible you have a couple ruined for good. I have a few where I have done everything "right" and they're still dead. The sign up, email verification, first ad... that is ideal for being a different IP. I still have accounts where my same, home IP has worked, never doing any other fancy stuff, so who knows?

      As for knowing what lvl a proxy is, I have no idea. That is outside my realm. I know there are 3 levels of proxies, and if you ever use a proxy you want a lvl 1 as far as posting goes, but they are also the least secure! Other than that, sorry, I have no clue!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Oooohh... so level 1 proxies are the least secure. Thanks, not my realm of expertise too.

    Noticed something funny, I have an ad that has been up a long time, seemed to get ghosted when I renewed it. But people are replying to it. So.. ghosted from just me seeing it? LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      Oooohh... so level 1 proxies are the least secure. Thanks, not my realm of expertise too.

      Noticed something funny, I have an ad that has been up a long time, seemed to get ghosted when I renewed it. But people are replying to it. So.. ghosted from just me seeing it? LOL
      Well coincidentally level 1 is what you want for craigslist, but at the same time, the least secure.

      There are classified scrapers online, maybe the post id mail setup was scraped too? Is it spam that you're getting? Thats very strange!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    I did a google search and a website was calling Level 1, ELITE PROXIESOMG!!

    Real people actually. For laughs I tried to post another ad with the account, it showed up right away and is getting replies. I think CL just likes to mess around with us lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Same city, different ad. The account is over a year old and has a long history, has some flags, but non-flagged ads as well. So maybe that is taken in to account.
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  • Profile picture of the author netguy12
    I sometimes post at least 15-25 ads a day on craigslist and Im getting 125-280 hits on the traffic side, but I do get some good sales from it. I also get some of my posts flagged sometimes or people emailing me talking trash "thinking" Im spamming but I only do 3 post per city and thats nothing at all really.

    I WISH there was some craigslist auto posters out there that were reasonably priced because I would buy it in a heart beat. Im DYING to try CLAD but last time I checked it was 1500-1600 bucks and Im nervous to invest in it only to find out its not gonna be working anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    CL, if you are going to quote someone asking questions, you answer the questions, you don't shrill your business. And with only 4 posts, you make yourself look like a spammer. Not a good way to get started on a forum if you plan to have a lasting presence.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    The accounts I thought were dead, are actually living again. Last night, I accidentally switched cities though.. but CL didn't seem to mind. And posting limit, I see it is 3 a day, but the max can be more. My other account that I thought was never going to live again, also was able to post... and got flagged. Tried posting something I thought would be left to help the account, LOL.

    Generally, best to keep each account posting in only one city, right? Both accounts currently have ads running in two cities.

    And the offers I mentioned to you in the PM, just stopped converting.. so trying to think up something more creative now. At least I'm getting posts to stick again.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      The accounts I thought were dead, are actually living again. Last night, I accidentally switched cities though.. but CL didn't seem to mind. And posting limit, I see it is 3 a day, but the max can be more. My other account that I thought was never going to live again, also was able to post... and got flagged. Tried posting something I thought would be left to help the account, LOL.

      Generally, best to keep each account posting in only one city, right? Both accounts currently have ads running in two cities.

      And the offers I mentioned to you in the PM, just stopped converting.. so trying to think up something more creative now. At least I'm getting posts to stick again.
      The posting limit is 3 max. If you go more than that, you will have a message that says posting limit has been exceeded, and from there you have problems soon.

      It doesn't matter if your account is used in 1 city or 10. You just need to avoid some of the common triggers in getting ghosted.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        The posting limit is 3 max. If you go more than that, you will have a message that says posting limit has been exceeded, and from there you have problems soon.

        It doesn't matter if your account is used in 1 city or 10. You just need to avoid some of the common triggers in getting ghosted.
        (Well, 1 or 3... technically.. lol.. but I follow. Deleted posts too)
        Oohhh, okay. I had thought it was 3 per day, not total. Because it wasn't giving me any warnings at all.

        Clear cookies, three total, don't get flagged (too often), and should usually be able to post, right? As long as you don't try "bad" urls either, too. Thanks for all the great CL info you're willing to give out!

        Edit: Wouldn't mind a response to my other PM question if you get a chance.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbnet86
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        The posting limit is 3 max. If you go more than that, you will have a message that says posting limit has been exceeded, and from there you have problems soon.

        It doesn't matter if your account is used in 1 city or 10. You just need to avoid some of the common triggers in getting ghosted.

        Quick clarification:
        You can post 3 ads per account but you need to be in 3 different cities on that same account or You can post 3 ads on the one account in the same city as long as the ad is different each time???? I think that is where I am getting hung up with some of my Ghosting issues.

        GREAT THREAD!!
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  • Profile picture of the author FromBrokeToRich
    Avoid using any software programs that say they can do autoposting and run on autopilot. Craigslist is a goldmine when used properly as already described above. Set up a proper account and just don't post more than 3 ads per day and be sure to mix up your headlines and ads a bit so they aren't duplicates.

    With the shear volume of traffic craigslist gets everyday you don't need hundreds of ads in order to get a good amount of eyeballs on your website links. 3 posts per day consistently each month is roughly 90 ads. They add up fast and can be a great source of some extra traffic. Not the most targeted traffic by any means, but traffic nonetheless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Hahah... whoops, my main CL account, has 8 ads currently running. Oldest one is from 10/6. So would be best to get that number down to 3? At least if there is a ratio for flag / unflag, this account has a good one. Erm, if this is good lol.

    14 expired, 12 deleted, 11 flagged (most of them shouldn't have been), and 8 active. Had been at 9 last night, not ghosted, LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      Hahah... whoops, my main CL account, has 8 ads currently running. Oldest one is from 10/6. So would be best to get that number down to 3? At least if there is a ratio for flag / unflag, this account has a good one. Erm, if this is good lol.

      14 expired, 12 deleted, 11 flagged (most of them shouldn't have been), and 8 active. Had been at 9 last night, not ghosted, LOL.
      I'm referring to posting, 3 ads a day max. More than that could be, and SHOULD be active. Your ad from 10/6 can be deleted. Are you posting all in one city?
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      • Profile picture of the author richardson500
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        I'm referring to posting, 3 ads a day max. More than that could be, and SHOULD be active. Your ad from 10/6 can be deleted. Are you posting all in one city?
        I need help with re-verification. I am posting ads and after just about every ad I am having to re-verify my account and then the ad get ghosted. Can you offer a solution to this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Yeah same city (besides 1 ad), that was on my main account. Different ads on different subjects. Some ads I had forgotten about. Actually, killed most of them, since they weren't relevant anymore. Okay or better to let them expire?

    Thinking now, just post 3 daily, in different cities and build from there. Just uncertain at the moment what to try offering next that would be worth the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbnet86
    Learning CL as well. Bought the system you see in my sig. Good for newbies like myself. Biggest mistake I made was moving to fast and got greedy. Thought everything was going smooth so I kept posting and then noticed no more ads from ghosting. One Issue I continue to have is that I'm in a small market area and getting into the big cities has been a challenge. Slow and steady - test the waters and see what sticks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    Wow. CL is now being mental to me.

    One account posted 3 ads, one got flagged (idiot people, it was legit), today I try to post an ad with the account and CL tells me I am extending the posting limit so can't post. Only two active posts!! Ad was about 80% different than the other two.

    Switch to my other account, only has 1 up. Post, ghosted, delete it, wait 30 minutes, try a new post, about 95% different, and I get warned for over posting.

    I had freaking 9 active before! Now I can't do 2-3?

    Been playing by their messed up rules, geez.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by jbnet86 View Post

      Quick clarification:
      You can post 3 ads per account but you need to be in 3 different cities on that same account or You can post 3 ads on the one account in the same city as long as the ad is different each time???? I think that is where I am getting hung up with some of my Ghosting issues.

      GREAT THREAD!!
      You CAN post 3 in the same city, but in my opinion this increases your possibility on ghosting.

      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      Wow. CL is now being mental to me.

      One account posted 3 ads, one got flagged (idiot people, it was legit), today I try to post an ad with the account and CL tells me I am extending the posting limit so can't post. Only two active posts!! Ad was about 80% different than the other two.

      Switch to my other account, only has 1 up. Post, ghosted, delete it, wait 30 minutes, try a new post, about 95% different, and I get warned for over posting.

      I had freaking 9 active before! Now I can't do 2-3?

      Been playing by their messed up rules, geez.
      I am guessing you deleted one of your ads, that is why you have exceeded the posting limit. Deleting an ad, still counts as an action of some sort.

      Don't ever delete ads unless they are already ghosted or unable to be renewed any longer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    I deleted them yesterday? And I never got the over post warning before. It makes zero sense, and doesn't go along with what I thought I knew and what you've shared. I know, you don't disclose everything.

    This account. Posted once yesterday, ghosted / deleted. Restored a deleted ad (different city) it stuck. Today, tried to post in a different city (ghosted, so deleted). Tried to post the new ad in another city (over posting). Not a lot of activity? And when I didn't know any better, I was doing a lot more than that in one day.
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    • Profile picture of the author aeri
      For the most part, I think the posting 3 ads a day in different cities would be the safer bet Then again, I just started on the CL stuff a week ago and read an article from the Entrepreneur about posting 3 ads per day, so I don't really know a lot yet...just followed what they said about it :\
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Betty5767 View Post

      Just ask your family and friends to help you verify the account...majority of them dont use craigslist to post...I could get into some real dirty stuff on how to get plenty of people to help you verify the account but we're not going into that and keep it white hat lol

      I am familiar with that technique as well, I am also familiar with the 30 people who have got arrested in the last 3 weeks by using the same technique you're thinking of. They're cracking down, you better be careful, also be careful who you buy pva's from.
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      • Profile picture of the author joel623
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        I am familiar with that technique as well, I am also familiar with the 30 people who have got arrested in the last 3 weeks by using the same technique you're thinking of. They're cracking down, you better be careful, also be careful who you buy pva's from.

        Can you send a link for the arrests you're referring to? curious to see what the charges and violations were... thx
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      • Profile picture of the author richardson500
        I need a solution to re-verification accounts. After each posting I have to re-verify and then the ad get ghosted. Can you help me?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
          Originally Posted by richardson500 View Post

          I need a solution to re-verification accounts. After each posting I have to re-verify and then the ad get ghosted. Can you help me?
          Using a bad proxy to post?

          I be completely wrong, but I think the "sicker" an account is, the more CL asks you to re-verify. I've had one go a long time without having to verify. So I'd give the account a break or declare it dead. Could also be the content of your post though.
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          • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
            Originally Posted by joel623 View Post

            Can you send a link for the arrests you're referring to? curious to see what the charges and violations were... thx
            I would suggest googling it. It isn't uncommon, and the charges are typically for scheming to defraud which is I believe a class E felony.. not sure though.

            Originally Posted by richardson500 View Post

            I need help with re-verification. I am posting ads and after just about every ad I am having to re-verify my account and then the ad get ghosted. Can you offer a solution to this?
            Yes... the solution is next time it asks you for your phone number, put in a bogus number and consider the account finished. It is time to move on to a new account, and since it asked you to verify your number, your number is now free to be used on the new account. Clear your cookies and start the sign up process with the new account.
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            • Profile picture of the author richardson500
              Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

              I would suggest googling it. It isn't uncommon, and the charges are typically for scheming to defraud which is I believe a class E felony.. not sure though.



              Yes... the solution is next time it asks you for your phone number, put in a bogus number and consider the account finished. It is time to move on to a new account, and since it asked you to verify your number, your number is now free to be used on the new account. Clear your cookies and start the sign up process with the new account.
              So you mean I can use that same number again if I put in a bogus number and close that account out? I can take that same number and use it with a different account?
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              • Profile picture of the author billsoriano
                no that number won't be released for 90 days
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
                  Originally Posted by billsoriano View Post

                  no that number won't be released for 90 days
                  A number that needs to be re-verified, isn't released as described above? Is that what you mean?
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                  • Profile picture of the author billsoriano
                    yeah they usually don't release the numbers for 60 or 90 days , can't remember because I just buy more numbers , however I never tried entering a bogus number to erase the intial one, so maybe that does work, don't know
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          • Profile picture of the author richardson500
            Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

            Using a bad proxy to post?

            I be completely wrong, but I think the "sicker" an account is, the more CL asks you to re-verify. I've had one go a long time without having to verify. So I'd give the account a break or declare it dead. Could also be the content of your post though.
            What do you mean the "sicker"? I have a few accounts that I have had for months and do not have to verify. Bought from the same source and I got some that I bought from another source and use them the exact same way and they ask for re-verifcation. I think you might be right about the content of the ads. I tried to tell my client that it was his ads but I don't think he want to believe that.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
              Originally Posted by richardson500 View Post

              What do you mean the "sicker"? I have a few accounts that I have had for months and do not have to verify. Bought from the same source and I got some that I bought from another source and use them the exact same way and they ask for re-verifcation. I think you might be right about the content of the ads. I tried to tell my client that it was his ads but I don't think he want to believe that.
              Sicker, as in in relation to the amount of "flags" an account has had. In my experience, when an account gets hit with a couple of flags, CL wants it to verify more often. Could be wrong of course.

              And had a "healthy" account have its last three ads get ghosted, which makes zero sense. Content in them should be fine.

              Really would love software that'll do this all for me, LOL.
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            • Profile picture of the author billsoriano
              I've done a lot of testing on why you have to re-verify the account when you go to post 24 or 48 hours later and it has alot to do with the ad copy, when I got the re-verify I would log out log back in write a unique ad and then it would go through without having me re-verify, also noticed when you do re-verify that ad normally gets ghosted, but I would just post 4 more ads and they would show up
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        I am familiar with that technique as well, I am also familiar with the 30 people who have got arrested in the last 3 weeks by using the same technique you're thinking of. They're cracking down, you better be careful, also be careful who you buy pva's from.
        Craigslist has people arrested for using someone elses number to create an account?! I googled it and came up with nothing. Why would Craigslist care if you used the number of an individual that has voluntarily let you use their number? Like a friend or family member?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          Craigslist has people arrested for using someone elses number to create an account?! I googled it and came up with nothing. Why would Craigslist care if you used the number of an individual that has voluntarily let you use their number? Like a friend or family member?
          Pretty sure the technique involves some trickery.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    I was getting a little too Frustrated, LOL.

    Believe the problem was, I found a company that I actually really believe in, that does peer 2 peer loaning. So I was putting up ads for them, and most likely "loan" is a key word you can only have in 1 or 2 posts at a time.

    Got an ad to go up without the word loan in it, but flagged right away. So either it looked fishy without loan or some CL idiots / bankers don't want peer 2 peer lending posted. I wonder if there are bots to vote your post "best" to keep the scam flaggers from taking down your ads?

    Next test would be posting an image, that holds the words CL seems to detest, to get around it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyJames
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Never outsource your ads overseas, it won't work. Never use proxies, it won't work.
      Really? Been doing it for past 3 months straight and did it years ago as well.

      Works if you can hire the right people. Id rather pay .50 a live post than worry about posting myself its annoying. Best thing I could do for my biz is outsource the posting. Just getting ads live is a pain.

      I'm considering building my own team with my own PVA and IP solutions so I have more control. But as a beginner not being able to get the ads up in volume myself, outsourcing is the best way to get volume of posts up.


      Originally Posted by netguy12 View Post

      I WISH there was some craigslist auto posters out there that were reasonably priced because I would buy it in a heart beat. Im DYING to try CLAD but last time I checked it was 1500-1600 bucks and Im nervous to invest in it only to find out its not gonna be working anymore.
      Outsource it to workers. Best way to get it down ASAP and you wont be paying 1000s.

      Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

      Next test would be posting an image, that holds the words CL seems to detest, to get around it.
      You will need multiple hosting accounts. CL blocks image ads from the same image hosting acct that violates there guidlines.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
        Originally Posted by MakeMoneyJames View Post

        You will need multiple hosting accounts. CL blocks image ads from the same image hosting acct that violates there guidlines.
        I don't think it does violate their guidelines? Just seems some of the "words" CL doesn't like being posted in more than 1 - 2 ads from the same account. So would be using images to get around the word filter, although I guess that could be seen against their guidelines.
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        • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyJames
          Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

          So would be using images to get around the word filter, although I guess that could be seen against their guidelines.
          What I mean is when you try and use images to "get around" one problem. A new one arises. Most people just post multiple ads using one image and one hosting account. You can't post in volume like that. You need multiple image hosting accounts like photobucket and multiple image names to post images in volume.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    Craigslist has certainly been going flat out to stop folks abusing the system, unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any site to compete with Craigslist and make it a healthy competition all round (at least in the US)
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  • Profile picture of the author rolltide
    where are you finding 50/cents a post. can find anything close to that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
    You can actually post in the romance section without having a verified account. For giggles I put up an in there this morning, stuck, and got about 200 emails so far. Yikes. Too bad I'm focused on real work, and no idea what to do with these kind of leads that wouldn't be spammy. Funny how it works, so much trouble trying to post for a company I believe in, and then that is so easy, LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I posted a link to a site of mine a couple of times with some art I was trying to sell. It did not sell, but I got about 1,600 visitors in a matter of days, if my memory serves me.
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  • For what it's worth, my experience with Craigslist is this..

    I posted in the job sections in every single Craigslist region of the United States, and some regions in Canada. I linked to my blog where I asked people to opt-in for more information on how they could work with me (through an MLM company).

    It was working great for a year and then my account was just recently disabled. In the meantime I got over 1000 leads and have done some decent business out of it. I could open a new account with a different phone number, but in the end I'm thinking I have better uses for my time personally. Although if I could hire someone to do the posting for me at a reasonable price, it might just be a perfect fit to my marketing mix.

    I'm guessing the reason it took so long to shut down my account was because CL is just frickin huge and they don't have time to watch over everything.

    I've also tried posting in the CL forums but have never had any luck there driving traffic, only from the job postings.
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  • Profile picture of the author evilwarrior
    Are there sections that do not require PVA, nor require geoIP?
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Originally Posted by evilwarrior View Post

      Are there sections that do not require PVA, nor require geoIP?
      A friend of mine posts tons of ads in the real estate section with no problems but he had to submit his broker license to Craigslist.
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  • Profile picture of the author antzman1414
    If anyone needs forwarded numbers for CL feel free to contact me on skype at anthony111414.
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  • Profile picture of the author billsoriano
    I was getting 4 out of 5 ads to go live in jobs section per account, was changing IP, running a pc cleaner, posting 5 ads to the same account all in jobs section and getting 4 out of 5 to show up. I was posting all over the eastern half of the US. After the first of the year craigslist has done something to stop me, even with brand new accounts I can only get 1 ad to go live. sucks. anyone have any suggestions
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  • Profile picture of the author AlenGeorgeson
    You need VPS with extra IPs to successfuly post in different cities on craigslist. Get 10 virtual private servers with each 150 additional IPs and there you go, you can post in 10 cities 150 times a day. Its pretty simple if you have the money. I used to do it and made some good money with it. But CL is just a pain in the but thats why I stopped...

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    • Profile picture of the author wealth1
      Originally Posted by AlenGeorgeson View Post

      You need VPS with extra IPs to successfuly post in different cities on craigslist. Get 10 virtual private servers with each 150 additional IPs and there you go, you can post in 10 cities 150 times a day. Its pretty simple if you have the money. I used to do it and made some good money with it. But CL is just a pain in the but thats why I stopped...

      Alen
      How about 15 cities and 2 ips. More realistic being you can't get ips like water anymore. Post a couple times per city and keep posting because you are not attracting attention to yourself by slamming 150 ads on Craigslist.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by wealth1 View Post

        How about 15 cities and 2 ips. More realistic being you can't get ips like water anymore. Post a couple times per city and keep posting because you are not attracting attention to yourself by slamming 150 ads on Craigslist.
        Today I did about 30 cities, one IP. The IP really doesn't make much of a difference.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexander K
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          Today I did about 30 cities, one IP. The IP really doesn't make much of a difference.
          What about the url? Is it true you can't post the same one? Or what about domain? Can links that are different, but on the same domain also post?

          And thanks for all the wonderful information.
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          • Profile picture of the author wealth1
            Originally Posted by Alexander K View Post

            What about the url? Is it true you can't post the same one? Or what about domain? Can links that are different, but on the same domain also post?

            And thanks for all the wonderful information.
            You can use the same one example: yourdomain/whatever
            yourdomain/yoursite I do it all the time.

            As far as posting 30 times on an ip it will work for a while until they ban your account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koolsteve
    Do you realise that CL posts get listed in Google results? By doing Keyword Research you can find Keywords that will rank on the first page of Google results. So find the Keywords and put in h1 tags in body of post plus put keywords in live anchor text link in post. Include at least 100 words of text in post for good code to text ratio which Google likes. Submit and take a look in Google later in day or next day and see if you are on first page of Google for your CL post. This is all down to good Keyword Research. No need to post in different Cities as you will be on first page of Google for the world!
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  • Profile picture of the author forwardedphone
    hello i supply forwarded phone numbers 100% guarenteed to work when creating a PVA ...willing to offer 1 free number to prove i am legit..

    talk to me on SKY:FORWARDEDPHONE
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  • Profile picture of the author forwardedphone
    hello i supply forwarded phone numbers 100% to work when creating a PVA. also willing to offer 1 free number to show i am legit ...

    contact me on skype forwardedphone

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  • Profile picture of the author weupliftyou
    Very interesting/informative discussion here... :-)

    Thanks Nameless & Koolsteve.

    (And the fella who mentioned the "bread crumbs.")
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