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DAP + Clickbank + Payal (together?)

by MikeJeffs
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I have a new site selling a nonrecurring product using Digital Access Pass software. Currently it is set up with PayPal and I'm utilising in build DAP affiliate features to manage affiliates.

I want to also offer my products through clickbank.

Is there any practical way to run clickbank+paypal as alternate processors on the same site?

e.g. my domain.com for paypal and mydomain.com/clickbank.htm - or perhaps some sort of cookie checker that looks for whether a clickbank cookie and shows the clickbank checkout information instead of the paypal one.

Or is this all too complicated and easier just to run everything of a seperate domain, perhaps just with a different TLD.

Any thoughts or experiences appreciated
#clickbank #dap #payal
  • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
    Mike,

    I think the easiest set up would be...

    1) domain1.com (which has DAP installed): Has Paypal button
    2) domain2.com (which could even be just a one-page sales page just to send the cb affiliate traffic to): Has CB buy link

    With DAP, your buy buttons can be published on any page on any site, as long as the back-end of the two systems are integrated. So in case (2), the CB buyer will still end up within your DAP database on domain1.com. It's just that the sales page and buy button are on domain2.

    That way, you keep everything clean and separate. Remember that the CB buyer still has to log in and consume the content which is actually housed on domain1, because that's where DAP is installed. And I'm guessing you're ok with that.

    The main thing to remember when using CB as well as DAP's own affiliate program, is that there could be potential double-dipping of commissions by smarter affiliates who are already a member in DAP, plus they also know about CB.

    Since they're now affiliates in both DAP & CB, they could possibly chain the CB hop link as well as their DAP affiliate link, and then if there is a sale, the affiliate makes commission both off of CB as well as in DAP.

    So, to avoid that, be sure to create a separate product in DAP for your CB buyers, and do not set up any affiliate commissions for that product in DAP. So that way, they won't get any commissions from DAP on the sale, but only from CB.

    Hope this makes sense.

    - Ravi Jayagopal
    Founder & Co-Developer, DAP
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    • Profile picture of the author adamj2
      As a Clickbank affiliate, I look out for the vendors who use two different types of payment processor and avoid them like the plague.

      I was recently promoting a product that was on a

      maindomain.com/clickbanksalespage

      It was a good product so was surprised why the conversions were so low.

      I then found that they were using a different system on the

      maindomain.com

      So I would have been sending them to the clickbank page, people liked what they were seeing, would go away again to think about it and then when they decided to purchase it they would just go to maindomain.com to purchase it and I would get no commission!

      The other day I signed up to the other non-clickbank affiliate scheme that they were using on maindomain.com and made a sale within a day!

      If there is someway you can be open with affiliates and make sure they get credit for whatever processor is used then that is another option.

      But I think a lot of vendors sign up to clickbank, get tons of people to send traffic to the clickbank sales page, but when people return (by searching for the product name in Google and going to the main domain that is not a clickbank page) they will go via the main page and the clickbank affiliates get no credit!
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      • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
        Adam,

        You make a great point about vendors screwing affiliates by offering 2 different types of payment processor on the same site, where one is awarding commissions, and the other is not.

        That is one more reason to keep the CB sales page domain separate from the main one, so that even if a visitor bookmarks just the domain and returns later like it will probably happen, they will still end up at the same sales page with the CB buy button.

        Of course, if you have a large site like ours with lots of videos and documentation and blog and forum, then you wouldn't be able to - and also doesn't make sense to - duplicate it all on the CB domain.

        So the CB sales page has to be more of a "mini site", with just a few pages. That style of selling may or may not suit your niche, so that's something to think about too.

        However, here's one cool test you can do: Deliberately offer the CB product at a lower price, and then link from your CB domain to your main domain, saying something like ...

        "Go check out our price at our main site, domain1.com. Also check out all of our videos, testimonials, and features at the main site - but come back here to buy, because this is a special "Partners & Friends Only" web site, and this is the only place where you can get our Product XYZ for $20 less than what we ourselves are selling at our main site!"

        You get the idea :-)

        This way, both your DAP affiliates and your CB affiliates will get their due credit.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeJeffs
    Really I want to channel people to my paypal affiliate scheme because the fees are lower and I can implement my own refund policy - so in my case I'd be reluctant to offer the clickbank product at a lower price as it might encourage affiliates to promote the clickbank version to better compete with other affiliates.

    Clearly the dual processor issue is a concern - I know I'd also be wary if the clickbank was just on a seperate page of the main domain. My other option would be to register the .net or .org of my .com domain and run clickbank from that. I guess that would reduce the loss of commissions considerably... but if a visitor googled the site name they'd likely be taken to the .com variant. But perhaps this is a better option.

    Ravi, could you comment on whether this custom solution would work.
    - Clinkbank affiliates send to mydomain.com/clickbank.php - this page clears any existing DAP affiliate cookie and sets a new cookie that identifies the user as having come from CB. The page then redirects to mydomain.com
    - Page at mydomain.com displays the DAP generated paypal button by default, unless a the cookie set on clickbank.php is present, in which case the dap generated button is replaced by the clickbank button.

    DAP is then setup so that the clickbank and paypal versions of the product are seperate so that I'm not paying dual commissions.

    Programming that is beyond my ability, but if the site takes off I might try to get it done. Do you think it would work or see any potential problems? It seems like it would be a very clean solution and mean that the affiliate that most recently refers the customer - whether that be via clickbank or the dap affiliate system - gets the credit.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
      Mike,

      Oh yes, that would absolutely work! And we might custom develop it for you if you contact us in about 6 weeks - fully tied up until then.

      - Ravi Jayagopal


      >>Clinkbank affiliates send to mydomain.com/clickbank.php - this page clears any existing DAP affiliate cookie and sets a new cookie that identifies the user as having come from CB. The page then redirects to mydomain.com
      - Page at mydomain.com displays the DAP generated paypal button by default, unless a the cookie set on clickbank.php is present, in which case the dap generated button is replaced by the clickbank button.<<
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