"I'm making 10k month passive income in 2 months" stories, how truthful are they?

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

Is it just REALITY and really possible to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

I can't speak for a specific individual, but YES. ABSOLUTELY.
These kinds of numbers happen all the time.

Is it the "average"? Probably not. But for those that TAKE ACTION, it's very possible. I've done it myself. TAKE ACTION, TAKE ACTION, TAKE ACTION, AND DON'T GIVE UP. I don't know what else to say other than that.

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Jaymark 14 years ago

I can't say if it can really happen since I don't have first hand knowledge. However I do believe that it is possible to do so if you find the right niches, implement the proper strategies and then work, work, work!

To get something going that quickly will not be easy and you really have to know how to implement a variety of strategies. So do your homework and research in order to find the most effective techniques. Stick with it and while you may not find yourself earning thousands of dollars immediately, it will eventually pan out.
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- dudelive 14 years ago
  
  It can be done by anyone who has the nerve to do all the hard and I mean hard work and not give up. Plan on at least 2 years before you can say "yes I make a good living on the Internet" and if you stick with it you will wake up with a grin every morning.
  
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Jaymark 14 years ago

As stated by many other people, anything is possible but it's not typical. However there are indeed great opportunities on the net. Find something which is in strong demand and which has minimal competition. Use the extensive resources (many of them free) to learn to reach those "hungry" audiences and present your product/service in the best possible manner.

This can be done fairly quickly so if you are able to find the right niche and can get the word out quickly, then it is certainly possible to make a decent income quickly. However in most cases it takes time and a lot of consistent and hard work. But good results can be expected if you apply yourself. Don't give up and stick with a well laid out plan. You'll get there.
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travlinguy

14 years ago

Sure it's possible and... sure people can say anything. They can also easliy generate fake earnings screen shots to illustrate their claims. Nice, huh? Welcome to Inetenet Marketing.

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scsheldon33

13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

Sure it's possible and... sure people can say anything. They can also easliy generate fake earnings screen shots to illustrate their claims. Nice, huh? Welcome to Inetenet Marketing.

Yes and that's freedom! LOL

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doralin 13 years ago

Originally Posted by scsheldon33

Yes and that's freedom! LOL

ANd that makes people can easily trap... including me
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jasonl70

13 years ago

it took about 2 months for me to hit that mark with ebay (in profit). But I had to invest just as much in the inventory... but that business went belly up overnight when my pay pal account got put on hold.

When I decided to get into affiliate marketing, I was making a few grand within 2 months. I'm pretty sure I did over 1k the first month.

My first 10k month took over a year I think - but that's just because I was very lazy.

I would go weeks, sometimes even months, doing nothing but taking checks to the bank, and seeing if my CB deposits made it (I didn't even log into to CB to see!). Seriously - sometimes I would only discover a google slap on a ppc campaign when my deposits would dry up. That's how I discovered my credit card with aweber had expired as well!

So, while I would be skeptical of someone claiming Ten grand monthly within 2 months of starting, I think it's possible... but they would need to have gotten a lot of things correct, right from the start.

Originally Posted by George Chernikov

Let's be logical: if you have a system that makes you X amount of money per hour, why would you spend time (where time equals money) selling a product about your system, rather than scaling the system itself?

The profit-maximizing answer is that one would only do so if they could make more money selling information about the system than actually using the system.

You then need to ask yourself - are you comfortable buying and applying information from someone who makes money not by doing, but by teaching?

I don't think this is true when it's a marketer teaching marketing..

why?

you won't make a dime teaching marketing, unless you do what??? market... is that not in fact doing??

Originally Posted by Rod Cortez

It wasn't until I actually sat down, started learning about fundamental marketing, such as learning sales copy, how to utilize free publicity, how to increase conversions, how to set up winning ad campaigns, how to use my content across different distribution channels, and understanding what my audience thought they NEEDED or WANTED, is when I started making money.

funny thing - many people who are not yet successful (in any endeavor really - not just IM) don't want to believe that a good understanding and appreciation of the fundementals is really the key..

while on the other hand, most people who are successful, and have tried to help others, will say that this understanding was critical.

It's the foundation, as well as framework, that holds everything else up.

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Mr Bill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mattward

I would say close to 100% of those claims which are found on sales pages or WSO forum are lies, and it doesn't take a genius to understand why...

With respect...I disagree.

Originally Posted by Andrew S

...If anyone made $15k a month the last thing they would be doing is hawking $17 ebooks in the WSO section...

Originally Posted by George Chernikov

Let's be logical: if you have a system that makes you X amount of money per hour, why would you spend time (where time equals money) selling a product about your system, rather than scaling the system itself?

The profit-maximizing answer is that one would only do so if they could make more money selling information about the system than actually using the system.

You then need to ask yourself - are you comfortable buying and applying information from someone who makes money not by doing, but by teaching?

Very average thinking with very little basis in reality. I sigh when I hear this old line. I can think of several reasons. Primarily,
1) they like making money
2) they are bored,
3) they like helping (not everyone is evil).

What about a sports coach? Do they need to have a string of gold medals to be a good coach? Obviously not. But using the "law" above they have no right to teach anything without having succeeded perfectly themselves. There would be precious few sports coaches around if that were the case. Do they have to know what they are saying based on truth and experience? Sure.

Originally Posted by niiche

An old saying springs to mind

IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.................

Bull! I made $100,000 one weekend by doing the exact opposite of what Kern told me to do. I call it the "reverse Kerny" and I will share it with anyone who asks (privately) I also use to make $30k a month with a $99 per month membership site (I was 1/3 partner so the site made a lot more than that). I sold my share for a healthy 6 figure amount which I'm 100% SURE everyone would say was "too good to be true". I also made $85,000 in one single day (day trader) which I'm sure NO ONE would believe...but there it was. The internet has surprised the heck out of me with it's awesome power. Do the right things and it will happen to you too.

Sometimes when people drudge out the old..."If it's too good to be true - it probably is" populist line they are clearly not considering if maybe it's not too good and maybe they need to raise what they believe is true (thanks Tony). There are starving people in villages all over the world who would find it hard to believe and "too good to be true" that some of us in the west get paid $100 in just one day at a job (their entire years income!) ...and yet it's clearly true.

Originally Posted by YasirYar

Yeah that is very much true, although the problem is that for every 1 success there are 1000 failures. You don't get to hear about the failures that often, but you do get to hear about the successes.

What is that based on? A feeling or statistics?

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

That is so, so, so, absolutely wrong.

Have you ever heard of building a list? Or branding? Or multiple revenue streams?

Heck, Donald Trump is a BILLIONAIRE and he sells his own informational products.

THANK YOU!

Originally Posted by paulie123

People who are actually making 10k-50k per month have no time to tell you they are making 10k-50k per month...

Why? Just because people are making $X doesn't mean they are not bored or want to keep growing and contributing. I know heaps of people who do that standing on their heads and are bored out of their minds.

I often joke that if (I have no desire right now) I became a billionaire the first thing I would do is sign up for private photoshop lessons because I love it. I would also like to keep helping people because that's a good and noble thing to do. It has nothing to do with what I earn (I often give away my time for free) I wonder about people who presume that just because people have money means they are evil and all the caring bones in their body have magically disappeared.

Money makes no difference to if a person wants to help others or not. Proof? You all have money in your pockets and you're stopping to help others (I hope) so because you have more money than others does it mean you're evil and will now stop helping others? I hope not!

Money is money. Helping is helping. Being "rich" can be boring. Money doesn't bring you happiness, only relief. Humans need some daily excitement and satisfaction in their lives as well. I'm not sure what some people want sometimes? Should we "unmake our money" just to lower the headline value? Should we pander to the lowest form of thinking? Where will that get us?

Edit: I will add, that saying how much you made is different to claiming that anyone reading your How-To will do the same. Also, "in one day/week/month" is not the same as "in one day/week/month.

It's very possible to make the money in the OP headline. Is it needed to have a great life? Not in the least. In fact, I would say that nearly everyone reading this thread is 100% expecting to make that much (and very soon or ASAP!) so how congruent is it that on one hand people are here wanting to make that much and then on the other hand they believe everyone who is actually claiming to make that much is lying?

Don't doubt 10k per month (passive or not) as being possible. It's 100% doable and I expect everyone who wants to, can get there. Instead, focus on the specific claims and do your due diligence if you think it's necessary.

Maybe if it said a billion dollars a month (I'd probably say "show me") but not the (relatively)measly amount of just $10,000 a month. Most of your aims should be 10 times that amount if you are to have any power and force to push you to even 10k. Raise your thinking. Raise your standards and have some faith in humanity and what is possible in this world because without it you may as well give up right now.

If anyone believes that 1 in 1,000 "succeeds" then why would they even try? Why are they here? This is not a lottery. Making money online is just an extention of the real world. People want something, you can sell it to them (honestly and with value in mind) then you can become as successful as you want to be but yes, I would say they are possible.

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Heman Patel

14 years ago

People who make that type of money actual put a lot of hard work. If you hear people saying they make that much and are only spending few mins. a day making that money, that is BS.

Building a website for affiliate marketing or CPA marketing takes a lot of work, overtime sure you can come to a point where you are only spending few hours a day working on those sites and bringing in good amount of money. BUT to get to that point, takes hard work.

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Michael Meaney

14 years ago

Some are going to be truthful, some ain't.

You can't say "they are all xxxx".

I've known people (real life people) to start making 15k+ a month after 2 years.. but not 2 months.

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dude17111a

14 years ago

Hi
I'm not the best marketer here but I would say that a "newbie " would have to have the "perfect storm" of skill,luck and product to do this. Many of the warriors here will probably
tell you their overnight success took them many years of trial and failure before they found the right one for them. I have been marketing off and on for five years now and still haven't found my style. I would say keep your ears open and follow this forum before jumping into any one thing. I also know others who read this will be quick to point out how they made it in just a short time. I will be watching this thread as close as you my friend to see some of these responses

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LegitIncomes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dude17111a

Hi
I'm not the best marketer here but I would say that a "newbie " would have to have the "perfect storm" of skill,luck and product to do this. Many of the warriors here will probably
tell you their overnight success took them many years of trial and failure before they found the right one for them. I have been marketing off and on for five years now and still haven't found my style. I would say keep your ears open and follow this forum before jumping into any one thing. I also know others who read this will be quick to point out how they made it in just a short time. I will be watching this thread as close as you my friend to see some of these responses

Everyone is going to be different. But myself, within my first couple months I hit the $4k/month level, and a few months later hit $10,000, then $15,000, and then probably a year into it, $20,000.

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tycoonist

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dude17111a

Hi
I'm not the best marketer here but I would say that a "newbie " would have to have the "perfect storm" of skill,luck and product to do this. Many of the warriors here will probably
tell you their overnight success took them many years of trial and failure before they found the right one for them. I have been marketing off and on for five years now and still haven't found my style. I would say keep your ears open and follow this forum before jumping into any one thing. I also know others who read this will be quick to point out how they made it in just a short time. I will be watching this thread as close as you my friend to see some of these responses

I have tried most attempt to make as much as 10k, but its getting hard daily.

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Matthew Loop

14 years ago

Yes, it's possible. The only way this usually happens after 3 months is for the new marketer to have latched onto someone that's already doing those kinds of numbers. If you hang-around others that make 5-6 figures / month online, you chances of doing the same exponentially increase.

Many are totally full of crap, though. It's so easy to fake social proof these days...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 14 years ago

It's not the norm, but people accomplish these numbers all the time. Take the numbers with a grain of salt though. If everyone could make those kinds of numbers, then everyone would be an internet marketer.

If you can find an idea that you can implement, jump the learning curve, and take action daily, those numbers could definitely be within your grasp. At the very least you should aim for it eventually. Dream big!

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Matt Ward

14 years ago

I would say close to 100% of those claims which are found on sales pages or WSO forum are lies, and it doesn't take a genius to understand why.

I do think it's possible. It certainly doesn't happen often, though.

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LegitIncomes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattward

I would say close to 100% of those claims which are found on sales pages or WSO forum are lies, and it doesn't take a genius to understand why.

I do think it's possible. It certainly doesn't happen often, though.

Hogwash. I can't speak for others, only myself....but I just don't see almost 100% of the sales pages being lies.

Honestly, I DO BELIEVE there are plenty out there who are lying, probably 50% or more would be my estimate...but when you say "close to 100%', it sounds like you're lumping everyone together....I don't appreciate that.

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LloydC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

Hogwash. I can't speak for others, only myself....but I just don't see almost 100% of the sales pages being lies.

Honestly, I DO BELIEVE there are plenty out there who are lying, probably 50% or more would be my estimate...but when you say "close to 100%', it sounds like you're lumping everyone together....I don't appreciate that.

I believe this too, there are people lying no doubt, however there are still few geniune people who practice what they preach.

If a sales page states a ridiculous amount of money in a ridiculous time frame with a ridiculously low investment, its a big scam sign, but I can still see why people are lured in to it.

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Matt Ward

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LegitIncomes

Hogwash. I can't speak for others, only myself....but I just don't see almost 100% of the sales pages being lies.

Honestly, I DO BELIEVE there are plenty out there who are lying, probably 50% or more would be my estimate...but when you say "close to 100%', it sounds like you're lumping everyone together....I don't appreciate that.

With all due respect, you seem to be taking offense from something I wasn't talking about. Your WSO says you make $500/day, which is certainly believable considering you've been on this forum for 5+ years. I don't know if it's true or not, but definitely possible and actually likely. I certainly expect that I'll be making that much in 5 years.

There's a difference between that, which someone could very believably work themselves up to, and a claim of making "10k per month in 2 months" as the OP said. Very few people would be able to accomplish that. No, an outlandish claim like that is almost certainly exaggerated.

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LegitIncomes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattward

With all due respect, you seem to be taking offense from something I wasn't talking about. Your WSO says you make $500/day, which is certainly believable considering you've been on this forum for 5+ years. I don't know if it's true or not, but definitely possible and actually likely. I certainly expect that I'll be making that much in 5 years.

There's a difference between that, which someone could very believably work themselves up to, and a claim of making "10k per month in 2 months" as the OP said. Very few people would be able to accomplish that. No, an outlandish claim like that is almost certainly exaggerated.

Well, it COULD be exaggerated, but perhaps not. As I stated earlier in the thread, I was at about $4k at the 2-month mark...so certainly others have been able to double what I did, and many others go way beyond that, no doubt.

Now, if you have 100 different sales pages all screaming that at you, I agree that many of those are lies...I still don't think it's "close to 100%" though.

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Daniel Brock 14 years ago
It's totally possible. I spent the past 7 days promoting a webinar as an affiliate which has increased my monthly recurring income by close to $10k/m, so it's definitely possible.

From scratch being a complete newbie, on the other hand, is a different story.

I would say it's not possible for someone who:
- has never built a website before
- hasn't earned a dollar online yet
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adToolBox 14 years ago

Yes it can be done.

And No, I really doubt that nearly 100% of people on WF are lying about making $10k plus per month but like the previous poster said I can only speak for myself and I myself over a span of 5 years have made well over $3 million through various types of Internet Marketing. You've just got to find the right niches and figure out how to promote them.

Currently, FaceBook Ads have been a Goldmine for me! I hardly use Google ads anymore... below is the basic formula that I follow when marketing CPA programs on FaceBook.

Again, finding the right 'niche' is the first step:

To see what other people are successfully marketing you can try creating a few dummy accounts on FaceBook and see what type of ads show up. For example, try creating an account saying that you are a 35 year old single female. Or a 45 year old married man. Then look to see what type of ads show up. Obviously if someone is willing to pay for the type of ads that show up then those are the type of ads that probably convert the best. Then all you have to do is become an affiliate with a similar company/product and create your own custom ads.

Joining an Affiliate network:

There are many different affiliate networks that you can join.
Two of my favorite affiliate networks is: "EpicDirectNetwork" and "NeverBlue"
It can be hard to get into for some, but just keep trying until you get approved. They have some really good affiliate products.

Finding your Target Market is the next and final Step:

The next step is to create a mass amount of ads on FaceBook. For example, I will normally create between 500-1,000 ads (*Using the same ad*, but targeting up to 1,000 different market variables, Age, Location, Gender, Likes, Interest, etc.) on FaceBook marketing a single product. Once uploaded, I will set a daily budget. Example: ($50 a day). Then I will let the 500+ ads run for usually 5 days (Total cost: $250) and by the end of 5 days I will then be able to see which ads convert the BEST and which ones don't convert well at all. I will then delete all of the BAD converting ads leaving me only the BEST converting ads. Then from this point forward I will increase my daily budget and spend all of my marketing focus on the ads that actually convert well and can bring me great results!

Obviously I don't create 500-1,000 ads by hand. There are a lot of great "FaceBook Ads Manager" programs out there that can do this for you.

Good luck!
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Steven Miranda

14 years ago

It is possible - yes sure but don't ever think for one minute that they used some super secret, push button software that create a cash producing site in 45 minutes. Just does not work that way. It is possible with quite a few really good sites with high traffic but it will take time and dedication to the subject.

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celente

14 years ago

Some are true and some are BS>

Yes this can happen, and it could happen to you or someone new reading this thread.

Although me, i sat on my fat arse for too long and did not take any action. You know how much that brings in $0....zero - kur-rect-a-mundo!!

Depends if you take massive action adn have a plan i would say that 10k a month might be low for the right person. Again it all comes back to taking action and going in with a solid plan. Also having nice funnels set up in your business.

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adToolBox

14 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

Some are true and some are BS>

Yes this can happen, and it could happen to you or someone new reading this thread.

Although me, i sat on my fat arse for too long and did not take any action. You know how much that brings in $0....zero - kur-rect-a-mundo!!

Depends if you take massive action adn have a plan i would say that 10k a month might be low for the right person. Again it all comes back to taking action and going in with a solid plan. Also having nice funnels set up in your business.

Totally agree, you have to start taking action! Nothing is going to get done all by itself. Figure out what niche you would like to begin marketing and start doing it! You will learn the rest along the way. Some niches will bring in good money and some will simply fail. But in the end you will "Learn" what works and what doesn't and from that point you will be able to start fine tuning your marketing and setup a very steady/growing stream of income.

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gotti3636

14 years ago

If you put in the work and effort then you can easily make that kind of money each month.

The problem is that most people fail to actually implement anything that they learn and then wonder why nothing is working!!

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AbdullahKaragoz

14 years ago

Starting online business and being multi billionaire just in 10 years is possible (like Sergey Brin).

But it's far from average.

I think there is a bit difference in how you define the term "possible".

When I say possible, I will mean possible for internet marketers who know basics* and takes reasonable actions. Is it possible for this like IMs to start making 10k's per month in some months?

E.g. let us say building an online affiliate business that generates $ 10k profits passive (or close to passive) per month in 3 months?

*e.g. who knows the difference between SEO, PPC and a bear

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visimedia

14 years ago

it is really possible, just do it (nike) and you'll see result. That's the key. The result can be successful or failure, at least you'll find a result. If you find failure, do it again. If you get successful result, rinse and repeat or do something different.

To decrease chance to failure, you can go look for blueprint, etc that's proven business model.

This is possible.

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Keen creations

14 years ago

Some people lie and some dont. Thing is all you have to do is get, lets say $10 a day every day for a month and from that just SCALE. If you scale large enough you can definatly hit those numbers! Test and scale is critical.

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xxdksxx

14 years ago

Some of them are truthful most are not. But that is just my opinion.

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WebPen

14 years ago

I'm guessing its easiest in the offline realm (building websites, helping local businesses with mobile marketing, etc.) than promoting stuff online.

If you sell 10 websites a month for $1k each, that's $10K.

If you're getting $25/sale from Clickbank, you need 400 sales to make that $10K.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

Out of the examples you listed above, only Adsense is actually passive income and that only after you've done the work to get the site(s) launched and promoted.

Of course making $10K per month is possible, but you're not going to make that kind of passive income for a loooooong time. Better just roll up your sleeves and count on getting to work.

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sylarrr

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Out of the examples you listed above, only Adsense is actually passive income and that only after you've done the work to get the site(s) launched and promoted.

Of course making $10K per month is possible, but you're not going to make that kind of passive income for a loooooong time. Better just roll up your sleeves and count on getting to work.

Looks like only reasonable response in this topic...

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John Romaine

14 years ago

Im still puzzled by how Chris Farell went from a total newbie to 7 figures in just two years. Especially when he didnt even know how to hyperlink an image.

That just doesnt add up :confused:

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Im still puzzled by how Chris Farell went from a total newbie to 7 figures in just two years. Especially when he didnt even know how to hyperlink an image.

That just doesnt add up :confused:

The key word in the OP is passive. I'm betting Chris didn't get there by being passive.

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LegitIncomes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Im still puzzled by how Chris Farell went from a total newbie to 7 figures in just two years. Especially when he didnt even know how to hyperlink an image.

That just doesnt add up :confused:

I don't even know who Chris Farell is, so I'm even more puzzled.

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Im still puzzled by how Chris Farell went from a total newbie to 7 figures in just two years. Especially when he didnt even know how to hyperlink an image.

That just doesnt add up :confused:

Is there any evidence that he has then?

One would have thought that anyone making
that sort of money wouldn't need to resort to creating
fake accounts on forums to give himself favourable reviews.

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Chris Farrell

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

Personally -- and this is just my gut speaking -- I doubt many of these are true.

I have recently seen a few sites with images of people claiming to make these figures -- and yet I have found the same image of this 'person' on istockphoto. Hmmmmm....

Oh and to Johnnie's question -- Johnnie I have no issue with telling you how I managed a 7 figure a year business within a few years.

Firstly - it was a lot of hard work.

Secondly - I build a list through a free ebook I created -- and then I learned video marketing - to make a video version of that ebook. I marketed that to my list - and that was my first product that made me $1000+ days. But I only had about 5 or 6 days of making $1000+ days.

I then created a membership site - and worked like crazy to cram it full of content. I spent 9 months of working 15/16 hour days before I went live with the site.

It now has just over 5000 members.

I also like networking -- I enjoy going to events and meeting people. I became friends with Mike Filsaime and we got on very well -- Mike came up with the product idea of AffiliateDotCom.com -- and asked me to be his partner on it. As you may know - that was a 7 figure launch last August (in fact it made 1.3 million in sales - in 24 hours.)

One thing that has not changed however -- is I still seem to be putting in 15 hour days -- so clearly I need to master my time management better.

If I can help you with anything Johnnie -- please do shout here or PM me . Or skype me. -- my skype is: thisischrisfarrell

Kindest

Chris

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John Romaine

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Farrell

Personally -- and this is just my gut speaking -- I doubt many of these are true.

I have recently seen a few sites with images of people claiming to make these figures -- and yet I have found the same image of this 'person' on istockphoto. Hmmmmm....

Oh and to Johnnie's question -- Johnnie I have no issue with telling you how I managed a 7 figure a year business within a few years.

Firstly - it was a lot of hard work.

Secondly - I build a list through a free ebook I created -- and then I learned video marketing - to make a video version of that ebook. I marketed that to my list - and that was my first product that made me $1000+ days. But I only had about 5 or 6 days of making $1000+ days.

I then created a membership site - and worked like crazy to cram it full of content. I spent 9 months of working 15/16 hour days before I went live with the site.

It now has just over 5000 members.

I also like networking -- I enjoy going to events and meeting people. I became friends with Mike Filsaime and we got on very well -- Mike came up with the product idea of AffiliateDotCom.com -- and asked me to be his partner on it. As you may know - that was a 7 figure launch last August (in fact it made 1.3 million in sales - in 24 hours.)

One thing that has not changed however -- is I still seem to be putting in 15 hour days -- so clearly I need to master my time management better.

If I can help you with anything Johnnie -- please do shout here or PM me . Or skype me. -- my skype is: thisischrisfarrell

Kindest

Chris

Thanks Chris, I appreciate your response, as Im sure everyone else does.

I gotta say, and this is something that really really irritated me when I first started, and even to this day...is hearing people say "take action", "work hard", "quit wasting time"

Mate. Im not lying when I say this. I have been at this now for 3 years SOLID. Working 7 days a week, typically 12-15 hours a day. No joke. I wake up and walk from my bed to my computer. Ive been doing this for 3 years straight since October 2008. Before getting into IM I operated large DB driven sites - so my internet business experience goes back to 2004. Im a web developer and designer.

Anyway, I once went to a seminar and was really down about having failed so many times and blowing a stack of money. I approached the speaker in total desperation during one of the session breaks and began expressing myself when he said ....

"What's holding you back?" Like I was scared of failure or something.

I felt like punching him in the face.

By this stage Id already blown about $60,000 on adwords, bad products, content development and god knows what else. Oh, you can add garbage mentoring and lousy coaching programs to this list too.

Anyway. My problem isnt "hard work" at all. I guess, in a way Im a slow learner. BUT, Im VERY persistant.

I dont know. I dont want to hijack this thread, its not about me, but I would certainly like your thoughts. Id be very much appreciative of your thoughts on my sites below in my sig.

Thanks again Chris.

Oh and as for the OP ....anyone making $10k a month within their first 2 months is either extremely talented, lucky, or has a great mentor.

I dont believe anyone could just sit in front of a PC and accumulate that type of income with no skills or knowledge about IM at all.

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fatema82 14 years ago

Hi

I am back from a weeks holiday from India. Well, for me I feel that you need a good mentor to guide you through this journey. Their success will inspire you to move forward and never know, you can reach your destination in a shorter period of time.

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George Chernikov

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

I gotta say, and this is something that really really irritated me when I first started, and even to this day...is hearing people say "take action", "work hard", "quit wasting time"

Internet Marketing is full of platitudes and Law of Attraction thinking, both of which are inconsistent with critical thought. Many people who resort to these empty platitudes are the same people who ask for help making money online, even as their signatures link to a product showing how to make gazillions on autopilot. Ironic, is it not?

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MikeTucker

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Thanks Chris, I appreciate your response, as Im sure everyone else does.

I gotta say, and this is something that really really irritated me when I first started, and even to this day...is hearing people say "take action", "work hard", "quit wasting time"

Mate. Im not lying when I say this. I have been at this now for 3 years SOLID. Working 7 days a week, typically 12-15 hours a day. No joke. I wake up and walk from my bed to my computer. Ive been doing this for 3 years straight since October 2008. Before getting into IM I operated large DB driven sites - so my internet business experience goes back to 2004. Im a web developer and designer.

Anyway, I once went to a seminar and was really down about having failed so many times and blowing a stack of money. I approached the speaker in total desperation during one of the session breaks and began expressing myself when he said ....

"What's holding you back?" Like I was scared of failure or something.

I felt like punching him in the face.

By this stage Id already blown about $60,000 on adwords, bad products, content development and god knows what else. Oh, you can add garbage mentoring and lousy coaching programs to this list too.

Anyway. My problem isnt "hard work" at all. I guess, in a way Im a slow learner. BUT, Im VERY persistant.

I dont know. I dont want to hijack this thread, its not about me, but I would certainly like your thoughts. Id be very much appreciative of your thoughts on my sites below in my sig.

Thanks again Chris.

Oh and as for the OP ....anyone making $10k a month within their first 2 months is either extremely talented, lucky, or has a great mentor.

I dont believe anyone could just sit in front of a PC and accumulate that type of income with no skills or knowledge about IM at all.

Johnnie,
You know what I have always liked about you? Your direct, honest, "no excuses" approach to life. That's something that a lot of us could probably stand to have a little more of, isn't it?

You're right, the vast majority of people simply could not sit down in front of a computer with no skills or knowledge of IM and make that kind of money that quickly without a great deal of luck.

Just as a brain surgeon could not learn his or her craft in 7 months and perform very many operations to perfection, could he?

***

When I came into IM, it was relatively easy for me, because I have run my own (very successful) sales & marketing training company for over a decade. So the only hurdles I had to concern myself with were the technical ones, which I was able to pay for until I learned them myself.

Still, it was A LOT to learn, and I can only imagine how difficult it must be for people trying to learn everything at once, and on a schedule!

There are exceptions to the rule, I am sure, but I imagine that most of these people are just as desperate as those they hope will buy from them.

Now, all of that being said, here is a confession, with some advice that I feel might help some of you:

I am an obsessive tester. I test everything, and collect an obscene amount of generally useless data about my businesses.

Through old offline sales training company, which was at one point booked solid every work day for over two years, I discovered this...

This type of headline:

"Real Income Requires a Real Business"

is FAR out-performed by this one:

"Increase your bottom line by 200% in 30 days"

The simple truth is that I made most of my sales by starting with a promise of:

1. A specific, large amount of profit
2. A specific, short time frame

After that, the real work began for me... Teaching people the truth about what it would take for them to reach those goals.

But, I got them to set the specific goals themselves during the first interview with them. That way, they were goals that they had to live up to, and whenever they were getting lazy, I could always remind them of the goal they set that they had to reach.

Often times they learned that the time-frame was not realistic, not if they wanted to do anything else with their life. Most of the time, they made more money than I promised, but it took longer.

Really, I didn't want to intentionally deceive people, but the ruthless truth is that I was in business to make money, and these headlines made me more money, even though they made my work harder in the long run because I had to do so much "educating" with my clients.

And while most of them never noticed this process because they were doing so much work, those who were sharp enough to notice what I did here were truly grateful, admitting that they never would have bought the truth, because they wanted to believe in their dream income. And that is the only thing they were going to spend money on.

I don't use this method any more and I don't know that I would do it again if I had to start all over, because my new obsession is truth & integrity, and despite the good intentions, there is a grain of deception in there, isn't there?

But, it is what I did to get to where I am today.

***

So, while the vast majority of those people making outrageous claims are probably desperate for quick cash, don't avoid investing in new knowledge just because you might get ripped off.

In fact, part of my own personal business plan demands that I must spend a specific amount of my profit on being ripped-off each month.

This is not a joke. Knowledge is that absolute life-blood of your business. If only you have the knowledge, you could build the whole thing over again. Real business should except that there is going to be a certain amount of loss and waste. It's just reality.

By creating a high, specific amount of money that I must "waste" each month, I have accomplished two things:

1. I never take risks that would waste more than the set limit, but
2. I am not defensive and scared of loss, so I can be more aggressive

***

This has been a Mike Tucker production, written at 2:AM after drinking too much caffeine. I probably wouldn't have told you most of this if I wasn't half-asleep, LOL

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Brandon Mack

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Thanks Chris, I appreciate your response, as Im sure everyone else does.

I gotta say, and this is something that really really irritated me when I first started, and even to this day...is hearing people say "take action", "work hard", "quit wasting time"

Mate. Im not lying when I say this. I have been at this now for 3 years SOLID. Working 7 days a week, typically 12-15 hours a day. No joke. I wake up and walk from my bed to my computer. Ive been doing this for 3 years straight since October 2008. Before getting into IM I operated large DB driven sites - so my internet business experience goes back to 2004. Im a web developer and designer.

Anyway, I once went to a seminar and was really down about having failed so many times and blowing a stack of money. I approached the speaker in total desperation during one of the session breaks and began expressing myself when he said ....

"What's holding you back?" Like I was scared of failure or something.

I felt like punching him in the face.

By this stage Id already blown about $60,000 on adwords, bad products, content development and god knows what else. Oh, you can add garbage mentoring and lousy coaching programs to this list too.

Anyway. My problem isnt "hard work" at all. I guess, in a way Im a slow learner. BUT, Im VERY persistant.

I dont know. I dont want to hijack this thread, its not about me, but I would certainly like your thoughts. Id be very much appreciative of your thoughts on my sites below in my sig.

Thanks again Chris.

Oh and as for the OP ....anyone making $10k a month within their first 2 months is either extremely talented, lucky, or has a great mentor.

I dont believe anyone could just sit in front of a PC and accumulate that type of income with no skills or knowledge about IM at all.

Hi ramone_johnny,

Just like to take this opportunity to say thanks for such an honest thread in this post, it's times like these that I realise how honest people can be in the warrior forum.

Best Regards
Jack

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Birdi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Farrell

Personally -- and this is just my gut speaking -- I doubt many of these are true.

I have recently seen a few sites with images of people claiming to make these figures -- and yet I have found the same image of this 'person' on istockphoto. Hmmmmm....

Oh and to Johnnie's question -- Johnnie I have no issue with telling you how I managed a 7 figure a year business within a few years.

Firstly - it was a lot of hard work.

Secondly - I build a list through a free ebook I created -- and then I learned video marketing - to make a video version of that ebook. I marketed that to my list - and that was my first product that made me $1000+ days. But I only had about 5 or 6 days of making $1000+ days.

I then created a membership site - and worked like crazy to cram it full of content. I spent 9 months of working 15/16 hour days before I went live with the site.

It now has just over 5000 members.

I also like networking -- I enjoy going to events and meeting people. I became friends with Mike Filsaime and we got on very well -- Mike came up with the product idea of AffiliateDotCom.com -- and asked me to be his partner on it. As you may know - that was a 7 figure launch last August (in fact it made 1.3 million in sales - in 24 hours.)

One thing that has not changed however -- is I still seem to be putting in 15 hour days -- so clearly I need to master my time management better.

If I can help you with anything Johnnie -- please do shout here or PM me . Or skype me. -- my skype is: thisischrisfarrell

Kindest

Chris

I can definatley vouch for chris farrell

alot of people do make claims they are making ex amount of money in a short time frame which is not always true, ive been down that journey and fell pray to alot of markters BS. Only now have i structered myself out, set my mindset straight and treat it like a business and have my funnel set up that im begning to see reults at a slow pace but persistence keep at it, and learning new skills all the time i know it wont be long until i see greater results

I met chris farrell, in the Uk at adeel chowdrys, and zed shah, deep walia, ian bass open wednesday, the guy is a down to earth gentlemen, and tells it how it is, he was not afraid to tell us exactly what he just said here, and above all his site is very very good for complete newbie's. and chris is correct networking is important attending seminars are just as important to build a good relationship with marketers. And be prepared for long hours

The fact that chris made the effort to talk to us all indivually was a humbling experience, since his meet, beleive me you relaise it can be done with alot of hard work, just like running a traditional business

. But dammm welll worth it.

By the way thankyou chris

Birdi

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JennSpencerIM

14 years ago

Just speaking for myself, we (my hubby and I) started learning about IM in December 2008 and our first month selling our product (April 2009) we made $5k and $8 each month thereafter. Then we got smart about some things and hit almost $17k in September 2009. Not as impressive as some numbers of the big guys, but its grown and grown since then.

We started out working a lot of hours (maybe 12 hour days for me and 6 hours for my working hubby) but now he's living his dream acting and I'm working maybe an hour a day just doing some fun stuff with our business on Facebook, etc.

So it's possible to make money pretty quickly if you are working hard for it...but just because a lot of sites are making these claims doesn't mean it's true for them.

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zannix 14 years ago

Hi,

I believe the truthfulness behind those stories is more or less irrelevant in relation to the motivation you get from them.

They are as truthful as you believe them to be

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NoBSGuy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

Hi there,

Yes, there are people making that amount of $ per month. But just don`t get it wrong! These people either KNOW what they`re doing or have A LOT of money to spend on Paid traffic.

Dennis

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goldbear 13 years ago

My bet is that it's possible but highly unlikelly. Kind of like winning the lotto.....Doesn't happen that often. There really are no short cuts. The basics will always apply. Have a plan and work the plan. Reevaluate periodically and readjust. Best of luck.
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- Mr Bill 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by goldbear
  
  My bet is that it's possible but highly unlikelly. Kind of like winning the lotto.....Doesn't happen that often..
  
  Highly unlikely? You mean highly likely - right? Wiining a lottery has incredible odds against you. Making $10,000 a month on the internet is highly likely. Thousands and thousands have already proven it. I did it accidentally without even trying very hard but it will never happen if you think it won't - that's for sure and if you think it's as likely as winning the lottery why would you even try? You wouldn't and that would make your wish for not making it happen come true.
  
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richgrad

14 years ago

It's possible for me to test a product with PPC and scale it up to >$10K/month in a short space of time NOW because I already have the know-how after spending a high 5 figure sum on adwords.

However, I doubt a beginner can do that because there is afterall a steep learning curve. You got to be willing to put in the money and time to learn to make it work.

Is it true what they claim? Maybe... but they didn't mention the one year of trial and errors that they went through first before the 2 months of "sudden success"

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Duggs

14 years ago

Originally Posted by richgrad

It's possible for me to test a product with PPC and scale it up to >$10K/month in a short space of time NOW because I already have the know-how after spending a high 5 figure sum on adwords.

However, I doubt a beginner can do that because there is afterall a steep learning curve. You got to be willing to put in the money and time to learn to make it work.

Is it true what they claim? Maybe... but they didn't mention the one year of trial and errors that they went through first before the 2 months of "sudden success"

I agree, and me being a newbie i would appreciate learning about the mistakes and learning curve a lot more than the "sudden success"

You know... what was like when you were making 87 dollars a month???

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shuvo

14 years ago

Probably before making that amount of money they have learned a lot,got the tricks and then it was possible for them to make such amount of money in 2 months.

But If you are completely a newbie in this field then It is impossible-I would say.

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Andrew S

14 years ago

If they have a vested interest in selling a money-making WSO I would be very skeptical.

If anyone made $15k a month the last thing they would be doing is hawking $17 ebooks in the WSO section.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrew S

If they have a vested interest in selling a money-making WSO I would be very skeptical.

If anyone made $15k a month the last thing they would be doing is hawking $17 ebooks in the WSO section.

On the other hand hawking those $15 dollar ebooks builds there 15k business even more. You have to look at it from both perspectives.

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LegitIncomes

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrew S

If they have a vested interest in selling a money-making WSO I would be very skeptical.

If anyone made $15k a month the last thing they would be doing is hawking $17 ebooks in the WSO section.

That is so, so, so, absolutely wrong.

Have you ever heard of building a list? Or branding? Or multiple revenue streams?

Heck, Donald Trump is a BILLIONAIRE and he sells his own informational products.

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EBiz81

14 years ago

I hope it's possible, I would like to be there some day!

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Gimitrix

14 years ago

I started my website design business some time ago and I am making passive income as well. Keep your mind on your goal and you will reach it.

There is a lot of flukes out there, just make sure you do propper research on them first.

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George Chernikov

14 years ago

Let's be logical: if you have a system that makes you X amount of money per hour, why would you spend time (where time equals money) selling a product about your system, rather than scaling the system itself?

The profit-maximizing answer is that one would only do so if they could make more money selling information about the system than actually using the system.

You then need to ask yourself - are you comfortable buying and applying information from someone who makes money not by doing, but by teaching?

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by George Chernikov

Let's be logical: if you have a system that makes you X amount of money per hour, why would you spend time (where time equals money) selling a product about your system, rather than scaling the system itself?

The profit-maximizing answer is that one would only do so if they could make more money selling information about the system than actually using the system.

You then need to ask yourself - are you comfortable buying and applying information from someone who makes money not by doing, but by teaching?

George, you forgot one other option...

Perhaps the profit-maximizing answer is "both"?

If your system would not be harmed by additional people using it, and people are willing to pay to learn it, why not add another income stream?

On the other hand, if too many people using a system would ruin the system, you'd have to wonder if the 'gold mine was played out'...

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Rob P

14 years ago

I have had several 'jumps' in my business. The high earning are possible - with some luck and a lot of hard work.

My first turn came four years ago - I was elling a $27 ebook and a buyer offered me to run a live two-day training course in Singapore on the content of my ebook.

I went from making a handful of sales per week to suddenly landing $5,000 cash plus a two week free holiday - all because of that little ebook and I launched my speaking business on the back of it.

I won't pretend it was smooth sailing form then though. There have been incredible ups and unbelievable downs. My online income alone is above $10K/month but only because I've spent five years reading, learning and applying - as well as learning to keep pushing when it all goes wrong.

To answer your question - yes, I think (know) it is perfectly believable. If I was more technically minded and better organised when I started out I'm sure I would have reached far higher numbers in a much shorter time period.

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Henry White

14 years ago

'Yes' and 'no'!

Others have gone from zero to 5-figure monthly income in an amazingly short time. 'Passive' I think is probably overstating it. Most likely they put in 50-60 hours a week to get there, but now they are only putting in a "few minutes a day." So, technically, yes, it's true if you cock your head just so and squint really hard.

The more important question is: 'Can I do this?' The most likely answer is 'no' - unless you first have the proper mindset, habits, knowledge, and skills. Those can take months and years to acquire, and, frankly, most people never do.

Ten grand a month means you have to average slightly more than US$330 per day. Most of our niches aren't going to see too many sales of high priced information products and a few commissions on high ticket physical products aren't going to make up the difference.

With your current niche and sale funnel, how many sales would you have to make to average that 330+ per day?

You're not limited to one niche, or one model for monetizing. Who cares if it takes three or four or five websites and six months or year?

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niiche

14 years ago

An old saying springs to mind

IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.................

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busygal21 14 years ago

Johnny..

I feel your pain..I've been at this like you 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week for about 2.5 years. I'm a hard worker and very persistent, like you. I will tell you that I think, non I know my problem has been the following:

1) Jumping around at offers that will hopefully give me the "answer".

When I first started, I couldn't even attach a file to an email, so I have had a huge learning curve to overcome. So I have purchased countless products to educate myself. Because I was such a newbie, and truly didn't have a clue, I didn't know where to begin. I got on multiple mailing lists, and if it sounded like it would help me move to the next step, I bought it.

2) No idea of what adsense was, wordpress, FTP, CPA etc etc.

3) Fear of setting up a website that looks like crap and people seeing it and saying, man that is bad...so I spend hours getting it just right...
bad strategy..

So I continued to jump from one business model to another. My most recent was offline marketing. Now I know that this could potentially be a great market. Most everyone's opinion was "this was the easiest to do". NOT. Why? Because in my area, people are skeptical, they may see the benefit, but either don't have the money to do anything, or have laid off employees so they are carrying the workload mostly themselves, and don't have the time to sit down to improve their business. Additionally, due to the economic climate, they don't want to hire anyone until the uncertainty is over...so that business model I have partially closed the door for now.
I'm still trying to meet up with a few potential clients, but I'm moving on to other business models. This past week, I purchased a couple of courses and have gone through them and will be building a new business model incorporating several concepts, but all around list building.

4) I haven't identified the correct business model and created a system that will work, There are a million models that everyone pushed on you..but which one really does deliver, with a little knowledge, time and effort?

5) Even though I want to be successful, and I'm sure you do too, success also breeds fear..what if I can't deliver the best...(I'm a type A personality..bad for IM is a sense) fear of letting people down..etc

Now I know everyone will tell you the money is in the list. I believe that to be true, but the value of that list is directly related to your relationship with it. So I will be structuring the model around that concept and doing other things to build the list. This will NOT be around SEO principles, which many Guru's have you doing. I have spent countless hours building websites and trying to get traffic to them. Flip it around...build your list, post to your site, and have your list go to your website. You'll have highly targeted traffic, have super good offers and a well thought thru backend.

If you'd like to talk, just friend me, and somehow, we'll talk

I wish you the best.

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Truxx 14 years ago

Sure it's possible and yes it's absolutely being done. It sound like magic to hear that someone is making 10k-50k a month with minimal effort. Like there is some kind of secret to it. Well let me tell you the secrets:

Hard work
Persistence

Sure people who are making that might not do a whole lot of work NOW but I assure you that they have put in 100's of hours into learning the business and learning what works and what does not.
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capitalalchemy 13 years ago

Not to be negative, but I notice a common pattern. The people who say "don't give up" or "you aren't working hard enough for it" the most seem to be those who had big success within a year.

I'm really proud of and happy for those people, but it might be a different vocabulary if they had struggled for a few years instead of a few months.

I also find it a real turn off to listen to regurgitated information from "gurus" who just started a year ago.

And I don't mean to be a pessimist - this happens all the time online.
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safari79 13 years ago

I would say with Adsense its possible to make that kind of money but if I was the one making that kind of money, I would have told no one. Check Flippa for such Adsense sites.
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13 years ago

I am a newbie to Internet marketing and i wonder if this is possible considering the amount of work i am learning that one has to put in. If it is possible then i shall be obliged if someone who had done it could give me a step by step account of how it is done. I am sure other members would like to know too.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by geego

I am a newbie to Internet marketing and i wonder if this is possible considering the amount of work i am learning that one has to put in. If it is possible then i shall be obliged if someone who had done it could give me a step by step account of how it is done. I am sure other members would like to know too.

Hi Rutherford

You tell us your a newbie, and would like step-by-step help.

Why is it then, that your own site has numerous ways to earn money online?

Shouldn't you be using those, or have you not tried them? If not, how can you write reviews and referrals for them? If you have, why aren't they working and why are you recommending them?

Just asking :confused:

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EdBryant 13 years ago

If someone says something on the internet I tend to believe them. I know it would be easy to take advantage of me but I think it's a better way to look at the world, to believe in others and be trusting.

Sometimes this world view can backfire in big way. So I am not allowed to have credit cards anymore.

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Newbieee

14 years ago

Yes its possible BUT not in that time frame.

Then again yes it might be possible in that time frame BUT most often than not its not the case.

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14 years ago

I'm sure that some of them is true and some of them are false. But it is possible to make that much. You just have to be creative.

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x3xsolxdierx3x 14 years ago

I know it's definitely possible to make THAT much...

In 2 months...I guess it's possible, but that is really quite a monumental feet if someone does/has done it. I'd buy their WSO In a heartbeat....IF they were able to do that, in only 2 months.....
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x3xsolxdierx3x 14 years ago

wasn't there a kid who made some 6 figures when he ran home, designed some shirts, and put up a website, after hearing about osama bin ladin's death?

not saying it's right or wrong to do that...but, he did make some serious money by taking the initiative at the perfect time....

hm...not entirely passive either....i'm sure his sales will become nearly inexistent, with time....
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

While it's very possible to do those kinds of numbers in that short of time, experience has taught me that most income claims are a load of BS. I'm basing it on years of working with other marketers, advertising professionals, attending conferences and seminars, and actually hearing people admit to me that they lie about their income claims. It's amazing what people will tell you after a few drinks.

People who do those kinds of numbers either have a real time mentor or they've paid their dues by investing money in losing campaigns, taking notes on what's working and what's not, but every now and then someone does get lucky and hits a home run.

The real question is, can you really make those kinds of numbers period? Whether it's 2 months or 2 years. It's not about what other people make, it's about what YOU can make and if you have the focus, drive, and energy to make it work for you.

I spent the first 6-8 months trying to make money really, really fast when I first got started. And I ended up barely making anything. It wasn't until I actually sat down, started learning about fundamental marketing, such as learning sales copy, how to utilize free publicity, how to increase conversions, how to set up winning ad campaigns, how to use my content across different distribution channels, and understanding what my audience thought they NEEDED or WANTED, is when I started making money.

It's not about what others make. It's really about what you're willing to do to make it happen for you.

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14 years ago

Start working right now... after two three years of hard work... you will definately earn this much from the website(s) empire you build within next week from now... then you will claim the same... the thing that we need to ponder upon is... its half the truth... they make the money alright... but do not tell the entire time devoted including 2-3 years they took to popularize their website...

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14 years ago

I know for fact that making large sums of income in very little time is possible. I taught myself a method on myspace back in 2007. I earned $9000 per month there for a few months. The method was a little on the bh side and it wasn't passive. It required 2 to 3 hours of work each day, sometimes more...

In 2008, I sold that method that I mastered to over 50 members of another forum. I sold it for $350 each. I would say I earned nearly $20,000 in January of 2008. Later that year, I sold the same method on another forum for $50 and this time I offered mentoring for $150 more...I made 10k that time...

The bottom line is or at least from my personal experience is that you have to gain valuable knowledge of something, package your knowledge and sell it....if you've actually made the money, then prove it to the people who are interested. I had no problem proving anything because everything was factual and I didn't want to keep doing what I was doing.

You have to know your audience and understand what they want. Feed them. The sales will damn near pour in if you know what you are doing.

Right now, I'll say this....if you have time to mentor others for a reasonable fee then do it...most people want to be spoon fed...learn something, then teach it.

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Alminc 14 years ago

Do not focus on others' income claims, that's waist of brains. Use your brains to learn what you must do and how, in order to start making some money and then to figure out how to earn even more.
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Davidoriol1986

14 years ago

That's impress stuff dude .......

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robsummers

14 years ago

Someone is making the money.

Maybe if certain people spent less time on here and more time producing products they may make some money.

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LegitIncomes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kalyken

98% are lies,

probably less between 50-400 warriors max

There are 333,000 member accounts at WarriorForum.

Now, let's just assume that they earn the same as the general public, in AMERICA. I know Warriors aren't limited to America, but for ease of comparison, we'll use one country.

From a quick Google search, it looks like as of 2005, 5.63% of individual Americans earned more than $100,000.

That would mean almost 19,000 warriors are making $100,000/year or more.
Now, it's impossible to tell how close that number really is to being accurate. But I do think your estimate of 50-400 is extremely low.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by fitz10

I think what's sometimes missing from the equation is people will spend years working through particular methods and none of them really work out but then they stumble upon something that does work and they say, "I went from making nothing to making $10,000 a month". Well they're not lying, but when they were "making nothing" they might have still been working hard at IM. So what really might be say a two year climb up the IM mountain may be shortened to only 2 months when they finally hit on something successful. The reality is they were still working on something and perfecting their knowledge all throughout those 2 years.

This reminds me of an interview I saw with Willie Nelson several years ago. A young, cute interviewer asked Willie how he was dealing with being an overnight success. (This was right after the release of his second big album - that's like a CD for you young'uns :p)

Willie looked at her kind of funny, smiled a little and told her that he had started performing in bars before she was born, and that it had taken him over 25 years to become an overnight success...

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Originally Posted by robsummers

Someone is making the money.

Maybe if certain people spent less time on here and more time producing products they may make some money.

Ooooooooooooh - SNAP!!
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14 years ago

I think what's sometimes missing from the equation is people will spend years working through particular methods and none of them really work out but then they stumble upon something that does work and they say, "I went from making nothing to making $10,000 a month". Well they're not lying, but when they were "making nothing" they might have still been working hard at IM. So what really might be say a two year climb up the IM mountain may be shortened to only 2 months when they finally hit on something successful. The reality is they were still working on something and perfecting their knowledge all throughout those 2 years.

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jonj31070

14 years ago

Being a "newbie" myself, I have come across a few programs that have been REALLY disappointing, but I also have found a couple that have taught me a lot. There are always going to be fraudulent people out there. I knew that when I started Internet Marketing. But if someone can win millions with the lottery,then anyone can make money with Internet Marketing...Right?

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jivens

Banned 14 years ago

yeah wso's are plagued with these titles so i stopped buying them a loooooooooong time ago. It's SO annoying, the best way to do it is just take the basics you've learned and apply them yourself I guess. I don't think there's that many people that ACTUALLY want to help you just to help you, they just want another dollar. The last report i bought was $11 and it looked soooooo good on paper but when I actually read it, it was probably the stupidest thing i have ever seen and their "iron clad" money back guarantee was a flop, wouldn't even refund me eleven bucks!

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LucySands

14 years ago

I have a friend who earns 2k a month....so 10k is also possible

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jcruz

13 years ago

I think its very possible but your not going to see everyone with those numbers. It takes time to learn im, but who know's just like the lottery, someone is winning. You may not know them personally but someone is obviously winning.

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YasirYar

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible* to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

*I think there is a bit difference in how you define the term "possible"

Yeah that is very much true, although the problem is that for every 1 success there are 1000 failures. You dont get to hear about the failures that often, but you do get to hear about the successes.

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sadiecopywriter

13 years ago

It's like loosing 100 lb in a year. Is it doable? Yes. Can most people do it? No.

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Dee Odus

13 years ago

Anyone can make 10k a month in IM within a month, if you have $20k to start with, to buy quality targeted traffic. When you see screenshot of $10k per month, it's either real, faked or borrowed. JV partners use one another screenshots.

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13 years ago

I'd say it is possible but as other warriors have already mentioned it's probably how you define passive.

I'd say the reason people focus so much on the passive aspect is because in general there is a focus on the result rather than the process that went into it.

It's passive if you don't look at the amount of work that went beforehand.

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paulie123

13 years ago

People who are actually making 10k-50k per month have no time to tell you they are making 10k-50k per month. I took a copywriting course and the largest portion of the training was on the headline...your question about whether to believe it or not is proof. I mean whether you believe it or not...it did catch your attention. And that is the objective!

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13 years ago

It seems to require luck too....

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13 years ago

I think that if you have web development and decent sales skills you can easily get 10k a month in recurring payments from clients and have decent referral business coming in within 3 months. A lot of action is required but if I'm doing it then so can you because I'm really young lol

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13 years ago

I find it interesting that a certain guru suddenly popped in, then dissapeared outta nowhere in this thread.

Meh, you've lost me.

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jasonl70 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

I find it interesting that a certain guru suddenly popped in, then dissapeared outta nowhere in this thread.

Meh, you've lost me.

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4Frankie

13 years ago

Yes it is true for some people and yes there is in internet marketing a lot of scams and people not telling the truth. You have to sort through the systems and yes and work hard and be persistent. Also helps to enjoy the journey. Get tunnel vision and GO FOR IT

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13 years ago

I think that is definitely possible but really takes hard work and a little techniques.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible* to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

*I think there is a bit difference in how you define the term "possible"

I think if you want to buy his product, read product reviews first; if he is just sharing his story, please believe him.

mark zuckerberg is absolutely unbelievable, but he is real.

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13 years ago

I always use the search if there is something "fishy".
Normally you can see if a claim is true or false my looking at the posts a person is creating on this forum.

If someone is claiming 10k per month in a WSO but at the same time asking about basic list building and traffic advises, then there might be a problem :p

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iyazam

13 years ago

I personally know some "gurus" who claim they are making boat loads of passive income every month - and its all nonsense.

Actually one of these "gurus" was a no body and one day he published a blog post on making money online (how to do it but he wasn't actually doing it

and posted it on a forum. He happens to be a very good writer and a reporter from CNN who was doing an article on making money online saw his posting and mentioned him in the article. This led to an incredible increase of traffic to his website and fans on Facebook and the funny part of it all is that no one ever heard of him before but they viewed him as a guru.

He told me that you can only go so far if you are not making real money online - and in my humble opinion anyone who claims they are making boat loads of moola online - usually vanish within a few months and are long gone.

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Alan Ashwood 13 years ago

$10k per month from scratch? Virtually impossible for most people.

The learning curve is steep, and there are 'steps' to building the business up, which takes time.

The sad fact is, that many newcomers are taken in by the constant wild promises. I know I was. When I was first curious about IM as a future, I think because I read so many amazing promises, I thought it was the norm - this was the way the business worked, and how it paid off. (I know better now).
However, I'm sure there are many people being drawn in by these fast millionaire sales pages, and that will continue.

In short, you CAN make a passive $10k per month income (I don't), but it will take time, patience and dedication.

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PS. Somebody said he'd never heard of Chris Farrell.
Really? Google his name and you will find thousands of people recommending him.
Oh yes , Chris actually has six figure months! He really does.
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by iyazam

I personally know some "gurus" who claim they are making boat loads of passive income every month - and its all nonsense...

That's just sad. They deserve what's coming to them.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by kennykjtan

What you read on the reports are true. You can make money unfortunately by the time you read it, it's outdated.
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No matter how many hours you work it is NOT going to work.
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What you really need is an IDEA! A BRAND NEW IDEA! or you've discover a way to attract starving traffic.
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My fellow bro & sis, you only need 1 method/idea to achieve the goal. the more you failed the more you learned. If you are lucky, you will discover it faster.

I have to really disagree with you... you don't need to out innovate, discover/figure out any secrets, etc. It's about a solid understanding of the fundementals, and then building a business. You're putting together a puzzle here, and too many people just the pices and never the overall picture those pieces create.

I've tried mentoring people in the past (for free - just trying to help). Here's what I discovered about the VAST majority of them:

1) a lot of people skip around incoherently..

2) a lot of people just go through the motions - they don't keep working at something long enough to make it halfway decent (whether it 's copywirting, the layout of a webpage, etc).

3) a lot of people are afraid of selling - it's a bad word to them. They'd rather just blog about something they like, and have people just click on ads. They seem to want to be writers, not marketers.

4) a lot people will buy IM products, but won't spend $10 on a good book from amazon on Copywriting, direct marketing, etc., to learn the fundementals.

5) they are quick to dismiss what actually works and matters, telling themselves "that's old, rehashed stuff". the old, rehashed stuff are the fundementals. As any coach will tell you, the fundementals are absolutely critical - pro atheletes still work on their fundementals every day.

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13 years ago

Yes, that's pretty much what I found when I was coaching.

As for point # 5, there's a motto at my Dojo...

To study the old is to understand the new.

Nice post.

Originally Posted by jasonl70

I have to really disagree with you... you don't need to out innovate, discover/figure out any secrets, etc. It's about a solid understanding of the fundementals, and then building a business. You're putting together a puzzle here, and too many people just the pices and never the overall picture those pieces create.

I've tried mentoring people in the past (for free - just trying to help). Here's what I discovered about the VAST majority of them:

1) a lot of people skip around incoherently..

2) a lot of people just go through the motions - they don't keep working at something long enough to make it halfway decent (whether it 's copywirting, the layout of a webpage, etc).

3) a lot of people are afraid of selling - it's a bad word to them. They'd rather just blog about something they like, and have people just click on ads. They seem to want to be writers, not marketers.

4) a lot people will buy IM products, but won't spend $10 on a good book from amazon on Copywriting, direct marketing, etc., to learn the fundementals.

5) they are quick to dismiss what actually works and matters, telling themselves "that's old, rehashed stuff". the old, rehashed stuff are the fundementals. As any coach will tell you, the fundementals are absolutely critical - pro atheletes still work on their fundementals every day.

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sal64

13 years ago

Well, I built up an empire of membership sites to eventually hit the $10k mark.

It took a while, but it doesn't take too much time once they are up and running.

The trick is to start with your first dollar and reinvest it into your business.

That's how my business grew exponentially.

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jade69

13 years ago

It is possible, but most of them are exaggerated claims, especially those from CB.

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johFF

13 years ago

Well some are BS, but probably some are real. At least, I love to believe they are real.

If I didn't believe from beginning that it's possible to leave from IM, I wouldn't leave from passive income today. I continue to believe, hopefully I will make that big money soon.

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kennykjtan

13 years ago

I believe it is possible to make 10k/month and I also believe lots of Warrior made that kind of income. But How? Are they going to disclose? Creating a website is not difficult BUT driving a starving traffic is!
I've tried Yahoo Answers on targetted traffic - income = 0
I've tried Fiverr - income = 0
I've tried PPV/PPC - income = 0
I've tried FB - income = 0
I've tried basically everything that has been posted in WR - Income = 0

Lots of people told me that I need a product in order to make that kind of money and I hired someone to create for me - income = 0

What you read on the reports are true. You can make money unfortunately by the time you read it, it's outdated. People has already made the money and sell it to you. For example, cookie stuffing. have you heard of cookie stuffing before ebay sued that guy for $250k? After that incident you can find basically all over the internet about cookie stuffing. lol

Sorry I'm being blunt but this is my experience.

So what nonsense am I talking about? I'm trying to stress that working 24 hours a day is no use! No matter how many hours you work it is NOT going to work.

What you really need is an IDEA! A BRAND NEW IDEA! or you've discover a way to attract starving traffic.

Newbie making 5 figure? NO WAY! those selling $10 report to help you make 5 figure the lazy way? LOL

You are all smart people. A 5 figure blueprint sold for $10? You be my judge. Correct me if I'm wrong. Call me crazy if you want but this is my thought.

I know and believe lots of warrior are making more than $10k a month. My fellow bro & sis, you only need 1 method/idea to achieve the goal. the more you failed the more you learned. If you are lucky, you will discover it faster.

I hope for those that yet to make any money on the net will discover the way.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by kennykjtan

What you really need is an IDEA! A BRAND NEW IDEA! or you've discover a way to attract starving traffic.

Newbie making 5 figure? NO WAY! those selling $10 report to help you make 5 figure the lazy way? LOL

I think the reality is quite the opposite of this. People who work on solid business fundamentals are far more likely to earn money in the long run than people who just jump onto the latest fad. If all the information you're reading is on topics like cookie stuffing than you're probably reading the wrong people.

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Originally Posted by kennykjtan

You are all smart people. A 5 figure blueprint sold for $10? You be my judge. Correct me if I'm wrong. Call me crazy if you want but this is my thought.

You are crazy... (hey, you asked. )

Seriously, though, there's a big difference between a blueprint and a finished product. People like to use building a house as an example, so let's go there.

I can buy a book of floor plans at my local bookstore for around $10. Inside, I find rendered drawings, detailed floor plans and some basic statistics.

Can I build one of those houses from that information? No. Do I know anyone who can? Absolutely.

Once I decide on a floor plan, I can order a more detailed package. I get actual blueprints, materials lists, wiring and plumbing layouts, etc. Some packages even come with step-by-step directions.

Can I build one of those houses from that information? No. Do I know anyone who can? Absolutely.

Okay, the detailed package isn't enough. Well, for some houses I can buy a kit. Large trucks will show up at my home site with all the pieces called out by my detailed plan package. Each piece is numbered and labelled, and all I have to do is put them together.

Can I build one of those houses from that information? No. Do I know anyone who can? Absolutely.

Could I build that house if I allowed for ruined pieces and having to do some things over, perhaps several times? Could I build that house if the kit also contained smaller projects I could practice some of the basic techniques on? Given enough time and motivation, I believe I could.

It's the same thing with one of those $10 business blueprints. Someone with skills and experience can take that plan and create something useful from just the bare bones. Someone with no skills and no experience can't. They have to climb the learning curve until they gain the skill and experience.

I'm not saying there isn't garbage on the market. There is. If someone tried to sell me a plan based on a bot cross-posting ads to newsgroups, I'd laugh them out of the room.

But there are a lot of plans out there that, with time to learn the skills, can work for the majority of the people that stick with them. Most people, it sometimes seems, don't want to do that.

After his first big solo album hit the top of the charts, an interviewer asked Willie Nelson how it felt to be an overnight success. Willie said that he'd been working honky tonks and bars, and writing songs for other people, for a long time, and "it took me 25 years to become an overnight success..."
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sal64

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kennykjtan

I believe it is possible to make 10k/month and I also believe lots of Warrior made that kind of income. But How? Are they going to disclose? Creating a website is not difficult BUT driving a starving traffic is!
I've tried Yahoo Answers on targetted traffic - income = 0
I've tried Fiverr - income = 0
I've tried PPV/PPC - income = 0
I've tried FB - income = 0
I've tried basically everything that has been posted in WR - Income = 0

Lots of people told me that I need a product in order to make that kind of money and I hired someone to create for me - income = 0

Maybe you are the problem?

What you really need is an IDEA! A BRAND NEW IDEA! or you've discover a way to attract starving traffic.

YES, that's it!! I have spent nearly 41 years trying to invent a new wheel.

I have tried the following...

Square wheel = $0

Triangular wheel = $0

But I know if I work hard I will reinvent the wheel and make a killing... and you will be welcome to be my affiliate.

I have a friend who didn't reinvent the wheel. He just made it better, and he's making 10k per month.

/sarcasm for the day.

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sloanjim

13 years ago

There are plenty of people making $50k+ month "passively" BUT Catch 22 they will not be sharing their method with you for a special $7.95..LOL Not even for $5k+ I suspect.

If you had system that made you $50k+ month do you think it would be worth saturating it for a few $$K WSO/ebooks etc? No way!

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13 years ago

Yeah I watched a video on this yesterday it was great and exactly what I've been thinkig about the last 2 months or so. It's solid bizz where you want to be..not the latest how to "game Google for 3million hits a day.."

Who was that video by? It was a big name guru..was it Dan Kennedy? Very good.

I think the reality is quite the opposite of this. People who work on solid business fundamentals are far more likely to earn money in the long run than people who just jump onto the latest fad. If all the information you're reading is on topics like cookie stuffing than you're probably reading the wrong people.

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kaper7

13 years ago

Its really simple guys. Anyone that can find a large group of people with problems they want solved and that person has the solution and a real proof coupled with time and capital can easily pass these numbers. The problem is new internet marketers dont have the complete package so it takes time.

If you're new, don't focus on the money. Focus on the things I mentioned above. That is the essence of a successful marketer on and offline!

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absolutelee

13 years ago

It is possible? Yes. Does everyone who claims to do this actually do it? Probably not. Use some common sense, here. If you can start from scratch and make $10k per month in a couple of months, then you very very probably have specific knowledge that took a lot of time or money to acquire. Either that, or you're remarkably lucky. This would be about like me hitting a free throw from all the way across the court. Could it happen? Yes. Am I going to put money on it? No.

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OllieGo

13 years ago

Look! See all the money I made last weekend. Proof, there you go! Know what I did? I took the thing and hooked it up to other thing but I made sure that I had other things ready to go and I followed all the steps to make sure all the things would work smoothly together. It was actually really easy to set up and I can show you how to do it too for $7 which is great deal considering the load of cash you make!

The fact is, I could easily be telling the truth ... but just because I can do, does that mean you are going to be able to as well? Or that you even want to? It's pretty hard to do something every day that you don't love, no matter how much it pays. Find something you love and become really good at it. You'll make more than enough and be happy to boot.

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JROC777 13 years ago

Lots of interesting perspectives in this thread, any time a question like this is posted it always makes for an interesting read. Take any advice you're given with a grain of salt no matter how successful the advisor claims to be. Never let anyone tell you what you can or cannot accomplish. For example if everyone who has responded to your question told you that 10k a month was impossible does that mean it's really impossible? or that it just hasn't been done yet.

When I first got started in IM after 2 months I had spent more than I earned as is the case with many I suspect. I also recall reaching out to so called experts in hopes that somehow they would enlighten me and I would suddenly see the path I needed to take.

Just keep learning an applying learning an applying learning an applying. This is how you will eventually reach your goals and discover what your actual $ potential is.

Look at this thread for example read it start to finish and what are you left with?

A simple % of Yes and No's when the only real question is if you believe you can do it. Search WF for the specifics you want help with and apply what you learn.

I saw a few familiar members in this thread that I recall reading some outstanding information from in the past.

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goldbear 13 years ago

Hi OllieGo,

Well said. I agree wholeheartedly. This really applies and makes absolute sense.

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Steve Wells

13 years ago

Nice Book ----- "Cashvertising" wonder how many have read it? How many have applied it?

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amritvirdi1987

13 years ago

Lol yeah ditto to the guy who said he hopes that it's possible

I think it is, I just think you have to be willing to put the time in and not worry about how long it's going to take. I'm 2 months in, not a single sale yet.. but I don't see myself giving up. I think by the 6-12 month mark I'll be thinking that this was all worth it

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goldbear

13 years ago

Hi Niiche,

Hey, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is not true. That's been my experience in almost everything in business and life. It just isn't so. Hard work and time are the answers in every instance.

Mike Prado

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Mr Bill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by goldbear

...Hey, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is not true...

Really? Again? This is such a tired old line - probably started centuries ago.

How about those new self parking cars? That is also "truly unbelievable"...at first. Then you see how it works and it works and so what we thought was too good to be true ended up being very true so we raised what we believe to be true to match the reality. If you use the "if it's too good to be true it probably is" rule to make decisions you'll not go very far in this modern new and amazing world we live in. Almost everything new is almost too amazing to be true. It's flawed to judge something to be true by how amazing it seems at first to you. These days it's hard to sell anything UNLESS it's almost too good to be true.

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sal64

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kaper7

Its really simple guys. Anyone that can find a large group of people with problems they want solved and that person has the solution and a real proof coupled with time and capital can easily pass these numbers. The problem is new internet marketers dont have the complete package so it takes time.

If you're new, don't focus on the money. Focus on the things I mentioned above. That is the essence of a successful marketer on and offline!

You speaketh the truth good man!

Originally Posted by WSOHelp

Really? Again? This is such a tired old line - probably started centuries ago.

How about those new self parking cars? That is also "truly unbelievable"...at first. Then you see how it works and it works and so what we thought was too good to be true ended up being very true so we raised what we believe to be true to match the reality. If you use the "if it's too good to be true it probably is" rule to make decisions you'll not go very far in this modern new and amazing world we live in. Almost everything new is almost too amazing to be true. It's flawed to judge something to be true by how amazing it seems at first to you. These days it's hard to sell anything UNLESS it's almost too good to be true.

When I met my wife, I thought she was too good to be true. 12 happy years later...

What a sad bunch of cynics some people are.

I look at these long assed threads and think... what a waste of time that could be better used to build a business instead of complaining about things.

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Josh MacDonald

13 years ago

If you worried less about other people and actually started trying some methods on this forum, you might actually make some money.

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BigRichLane

13 years ago

anyone making that kind of money is not going to be writing a WSO claiming that they do and selling their secrets to you for 7 dollars

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by BigRichLane

anyone making that kind of money is not going to be writing a WSO claiming that they do and selling their secrets to you for 7 dollars

Why not? Of course they would. They would if it made them an extra (say) $5,000 a month. You think because some people have some money they don't need any more? Or is it that you think people with some money are too mean spirited to sell education? What if they were bored or needed a challenge or felt a need to give something back and make a few bucks doing so?

There are LOTS of reasons why someone who is making $10k per month would still be in business.

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sal64

13 years ago

lol...

Those extra sales @ $7 can be the difference between a $9k month and a $10k month.

Why do people assume that income is from only 1 source?

I worked with a mentor who did $30k per month from the following...

ebooks
e-coaching
physical products
coaching
membership site (which I set up and ran for him)
Public speaking

I wonder how many people use this line of thinking and actually avoid doing it to see if it works? Or quit too early?

ok, I'm bored now and going to bed

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Why not? Of course they would. They would if it made them an extra (say) $5,000 a month. You think because some people have some money they don't need any more? Or is it that you think people with some money are too mean spirited to sell education? What if they were bored or needed a challenge or felt a need to give something back and make a few bucks doing so?

There are LOTS of reasons why someone who is making $10k per month would still be in business.

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sal64 13 years ago

Originally Posted by goldbear

My bet is that it's possible but highly unlikelly. Kind of like winning the lotto.....Doesn't happen that often.

Bad analogy. Lotto is left to chance. $10k per month is a result of deliberate actions.

Originally Posted by Josh MacDonald

If you worried less about other people and actually started trying some methods on this forum, you might actually make some money.

Correct, but do you honestly think they'll listen?

Originally Posted by BigRichLane

anyone making that kind of money is not going to be writing a WSO claiming that they do and selling their secrets to you for 7 dollars

#1: there are no secrets. Only shiner and improved wheels.

#2: Yes I will sell them to you for $7. Because once I have you as a customer, I will sell you more bigger, shinier, and expensive wheels.. and that's how I make $10k per month.
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JeromyS

13 years ago

It is really like many other "get rich quick" pushes, yes it can be done, is it easy? no of course not, or everyone would be doing it and then it probably wouldn't be so profitable.

A sure fire way to know if a pitch is likely to be 'snake oil' is if they say "Push button", "turn key", or any sort of claim that it is easy and requires little work. An honest Internet/Affiliate pitch will generally admit that there is learning and real work involved in making money online. Finding and diligently following steps in one of these 'honest' systems often results in some level of success.

Most people don't succeed primarily because they don't put the work in in the 'right' way or at all. Believe me, to make these kind of numbers, there is a lot of learning and work and often, you need to enlist various outsource services (ie web development, seo, graphic design, advertising, etc).

For someone new to the industry, a good way to 'cut your teeth' is to start out with creating some Squidoo lens. Tons of info right on Squidoo for how.

Another point worth making, is that ones success is more realistic if you work within a niche that you have personal interest and knowledge in. Take that interest, do some market research, what information/service/product are people interested in, what do they want to know, what problem can you solve, what demographic makes up your market, what do they buy, what is the potential competition, how can you add more to what your competitor has?

I think there is a combination of following proven steps and processes to develop and grow, while adding your own unique edge to the niche and working hard at it. The downfall of working from home, online, is you really are your own boss. It is all too easy to grab the remote and turn on the tube, or find anything else to do, but work on your online business. The people that make these figures are disciplined and treat their online business like a JOB, they push and motivate themselves and they work hard at it.

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londoncoffee

13 years ago

If the claim is followed with a "NOW YOU TOO CAN MAKE $10,000PM JUST LIKE ME
- BUY MY EBOOK $25"
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Originally Posted by londoncoffee

If the claim is followed with a "NOW YOU TOO CAN MAKE $10,000PM JUST LIKE ME
- BUY MY EBOOK $25"
you know it's a crock of xxxx
:-)

Why is that? I see no correlation at all. I expect I would sell thousands of a book like that - especially if I really did help people make that much. It would be a very interesting read and I bet you would make a healthy return on your investment even if you took lame action on just one of the suggestions.

Have you not never walked into a book shop (yes, I'll use that analogy again) and saw a book written by a millionaire explaining how they made their millions and encouraging you to have confidence in your abilities and you might also make the same or more that cost less than $25? That book could easily be worth $10k per month I bet.
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Mr Bill

13 years ago

Welcome to the Warrior Forum Geego.

There are as many ways as their are people doing it. Spend the next few weeks just reading threads in here and something will get your interest. One thing to keep in mind is that if you want to make $10,000 a month you better plan on being very useful.

Edit: I will add that there seem to be lots of ways on your very own website that you should probably try because you give many good reviews so I'm guessing you've tried or looked into many of them. Can we safely assume that you don't believe anything on your website will work well enough to give you what you need? There are some headlines on there where you are telling us yourself how to make up to $50,000 a month. Fail at one of those and you'll have your $10,000 a month.

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Deji

13 years ago

It is very possible to make that kind of money. Although it is true that some of those screen shots are photoshopped, there are credible people that are making that and even more. But as always, you must realize that in life,nothing good comes easy. A proverb says "If wishes were horses,beggars would ride". Making it in anything (not just in business) requires a lot of hard work, effort,sleepless nights,dedication,perseverance,etc. It was Dan Kennedy that said he became an overnight success...after 20 years. Not saying it will take you 20 years to achieve the same but you get the picture. So keep at it,take lots of action and persevere. You too will make it.

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13 years ago

Yes... This is true ... Speaking on own behalf

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by sal64

When I met my wife, I thought she was too good to be true. 12 happy years later...

I thought the same, and we just celebrated #30...

Originally Posted by sal64

I look at these long assed threads and think... what a waste of time that could be better used to build a business instead of complaining about things.

And yet you contributed posts numbered 125, 127, 133 and 136. And I, this one.

You wanna be 'pot' or 'kettle'? :p

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sal64

13 years ago

I'll take kettle, thx John.

It was late Saturday niye and I was killing some time.

I don't do bored very well.

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

I thought the same, and we just celebrated #30...

And yet you contributed posts numbered 125, 127, 133 and 136. And I, this one.

You wanna be 'pot' or 'kettle'? :p

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revupcommerce

13 years ago

I think it can be done but maybe the wording is a little misleading.
I could start a new im campaign and if I am lucky begin making 5-10k afer only 2 months.
So I could then say after only 2 months I am making 5-10 k passively.
However the truth is I have been at this for 10 years.
So the absolute truth would be to say after 10 years and 2 months I am making 5-10k a month passively.
What do you think will sell more ebooks?

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13 years ago

I wish i could make it ...

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sonnyd

13 years ago

I'm sure its possible. Just not very likely to happen to any of us.

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Originally Posted by sonnyd

I'm sure its possible. Just not very likely to happen to any of us.

If you believe you can or you believe you can't... you're right.
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MatthewNeer

13 years ago

ABSOLUTELY!

Once you've done once, you and easily do it again because you know exactly what it took to get there...

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Jarrett

Banned 13 years ago

Wow. some of the cynicism in this thread amazes me.

"Highly Unlikely".. "Not possible.." "Impossible"

Really?

My last 5 coaching students are all doing over $10k/mo within their first 2 months..
And many of these guys WERE brand new..

Feel free to hit up guys like James Sides, Shawn Anderson, Simon, etc. All of which are now prominent warriors who will attest to this.

What's so hard to believe about $10k/mo?

Here's a thought.

Do a free wso... and advertise for it in your Sig link. Get about 500 people on your list as a result.. maybe even do some ad swaps with your new list.

Then find someone who is doing a webinar for a bad ass software that cost $2,000.
Let him handle everything.. You just send out an email to your list about the webinar.
You get 10 people to sign up for it.. how much money did you just make?

Oh snap. if he gave you 50% commission.. you just made an extra $10k that month.
Schedule that webinar to repeat automatically every month.. There's $10k/mo passive income.

Wait. but this doesnt work in the real world?

Yes it does

I did JUST that this last month... made 20+ sales on a micro list from WF even though the webinar had TONS of technical difficulties..

Seriously you guys.. if you think $10k/mo is a big deal or takes months of arduous work.. You need to DITCH the people that you're hanging out with.. cuz it sounds like you're hanging out with a bunch of broke people that are corrupting you.

I used to think making a million a /yr was cool.. Until I became friends with a bunch of people that are all doing a million a month.

See what I mean? It's all perspective. So what's your perspective?

If you grew up in Ethiopia.. Food is a luxury.. it's hard to come by.. Get out of Ethiopia and take a stroll through a buffet in Las Vegas..

Perspective changes.

Making $XX,XXX is only a BIG DEAL and hard to reach.. if you MAKE IT a big deal..

So stop making it a big deal.. Find someone who'se doing it and do what he does? See what happens?

The line about "Why would someone who makes $15,000/mo Sell his secrets as a WSO for $7?!"

If I see that again I am going to punch a baby koala bear in the schnozz.

SERIOUSLY you guys..

DON'T PROJECT THAT ON TO PEOPLE.

That's the way YOU think... because you are afraid of loss.. and fear has been holding you back.. and you think that the secrets to making money online is a big 'secret'... and if you stumbled across something that worked.. you wouldn't want to share it with people...

But that's not how it works. That's all in your head.

There is NO secret to making money online.. It all comes down to SIMPLE stuff that works..

And I got NO problem sharing what's worked for me with other people.. In fact.. I've done it over and over again...

Is it so hard to believe that someone who makes money actually ENJOYS helping people out?
And isn't AFRAID to spread the word because he knows that out of 99% of people he talks to that..

NO matter how hard he tries to convince them otherwise.. will still let fear, excuses, and doubt stand in the way and seperate them from taking action..

But he tells them anyways because he knows that that 1% that actually does take action and DOES it.. it will change their LIFE?

I'm a product creator.. I just tought a ton of people how to be product creators and how to do exactly what I do.. And many of these guys are OWNING the WSO section right now.. I can name like 12 of them that just got WSO of the day over the last month and a half. lol.

Did I just create a whole bunch of competition for myself? Heck no.

I love it! In fact.. on the contrary.. I just created an army of guys that can help me promote stuff.. and guys that can test / track what works and share the info with me?

There's room for everybody.. There's only one Jarrett.. I'm unique.. and even if we both came out with a similar course on the same topic.. now we can cross promote.. make more money.. and people could buy both courses for different reasons?

You see what I'm saying..

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Banned 13 years ago

Last thing.

I feel I need to address this because I have seen this come up 1,000x times on here.. and all over the internet..

A bunch of guys get around and bash someone that did a WSO.. saying

"there's no way that what he taught actually works.. If he makes $25,000 /month (or insert any $$ amount here).. why would he sell his secrets for $7?!"

"He's obviously a FAKE!"

In fact I just saw at least 3 people basically say that just in this thread alone..

Sure.. you get some monkeys in the WSO section who are faker than a $3 bill. You get guys who lie their ass off and pummel a bunch of crap. We all know this..

But there are guys who are LEGIT.. believe it or not.. who not only do wso's because they like to give back and help people out.. but also like doing it because it can be extremely profitable...

Do me a favor.

Go to WarriorPlus.com

Tell me how much total revunue has been generated through warriorplus?

Right now.. it's telling me $14.2million
And if you notice.. each month it's been climbing at an astronomical rate..

I think right now it's been averaging a MILLION a month?

I think that means that there is ALOT of freakin' money going through warrior forum right now?

Let's talk numbers.

One of my students last wso's did $60k in about a week, another one did $54k.. In that process they just got 2,000+ BUYING customers on their list..

And if you didn't know this.. Guys who buy WSO's are RABID buyers of WSO's.. they don't just buy 1 or 2.. they buy 50 wso's.. they buy 100..

So all they have to do is send an email out to their list and tell them about some other really cool wso's that are coming up.. and their list eats it up like Pacman..

We're talking an additional $300 - $500/day JUST from the emails alone.. and just from a list they got off 1 or 2 wso's they did..

AND THAT's NOT factoring in them doing occasional webinars, higher ticket upsells, or coaching..

So why would a guy who makes $25,000/mo do a wso for $7..

Do you STILL think it's not worth it for him?

I dunno.. is an extra six figures a year by doing a few lousy wso's.. is that worth it to you?

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SethLarrabee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jarrett

Last thing.

I feel I need to address this because I have seen this come up 1,000x times on here.. and all over the internet..

A bunch of guys get around and bash someone that did a WSO.. saying

"there's no way that what he taught actually works.. If he makes $25,000 /month (or insert any $$ amount here).. why would he sell his secrets for $7?!"

"He's obviously a FAKE!"

In fact I just saw at least 3 people basically say that just in this thread alone..

Sure.. you get some monkeys in the WSO section who are faker than a $3 bill. You get guys who lie their ass off and pummel a bunch of crap. We all know this..

But there are guys who are LEGIT.. believe it or not.. who not only do wso's because they like to give back and help people out.. but also like doing it because it can be extremely profitable...

Do me a favor.

Go to WarriorPlus.com

Tell me how much total revunue has been generated through warriorplus?

Right now.. it's telling me $14.2million
And if you notice.. each month it's been climbing at an astronomical rate..

I think right now it's been averaging a MILLION a month?

I think that means that there is ALOT of freakin' money going through warrior forum right now?

Let's talk numbers.

One of my students last wso's did $60k in about a week, another one did $54k.. In that process they just got 2,000+ BUYING customers on their list..

And if you didn't know this.. Guys who buy WSO's are RABID buyers of WSO's.. they don't just buy 1 or 2.. they buy 50 wso's.. they buy 100..

So all they have to do is send an email out to their list and tell them about some other really cool wso's that are coming up.. and their list eats it up like Pacman..

We're talking an additional $300 - $500/day JUST from the emails alone.. and just from a list they got off 1 or 2 wso's they did..

AND THAT's NOT factoring in them doing occasional webinars, higher ticket upsells, or coaching..

So why would a guy who makes $25,000/mo do a wso for $7..

Do you STILL think it's not worth it for him?

I dunno.. is an extra six figures a year by doing a few lousy wso's.. is that worth it to you?

Hells to the yeah Jarrett!!! You are always the man about the interwebs... Tell it like it is and help others "get it" THAT'S what it's all about man!!!

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Rod Cortez

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jarrett

Last thing.

I feel I need to address this because I have seen this come up 1,000x times on here.. and all over the internet..

A bunch of guys get around and bash someone that did a WSO.. saying

"there's no way that what he taught actually works.. If he makes $25,000 /month (or insert any $$ amount here).. why would he sell his secrets for $7?!"

"He's obviously a FAKE!"

In fact I just saw at least 3 people basically say that just in this thread alone..

Sure.. you get some monkeys in the WSO section who are faker than a $3 bill. You get guys who lie their ass off and pummel a bunch of crap. We all know this..

But there are guys who are LEGIT.. believe it or not.. who not only do wso's because they like to give back and help people out.. but also like doing it because it can be extremely profitable...

Do me a favor.

Go to WarriorPlus.com

Tell me how much total revunue has been generated through warriorplus?

Right now.. it's telling me $14.2million
And if you notice.. each month it's been climbing at an astronomical rate..

I think right now it's been averaging a MILLION a month?

I think that means that there is ALOT of freakin' money going through warrior forum right now?

Let's talk numbers.

One of my students last wso's did $60k in about a week, another one did $54k.. In that process they just got 2,000+ BUYING customers on their list..

And if you didn't know this.. Guys who buy WSO's are RABID buyers of WSO's.. they don't just buy 1 or 2.. they buy 50 wso's.. they buy 100..

So all they have to do is send an email out to their list and tell them about some other really cool wso's that are coming up.. and their list eats it up like Pacman..

We're talking an additional $300 - $500/day JUST from the emails alone.. and just from a list they got off 1 or 2 wso's they did..

AND THAT's NOT factoring in them doing occasional webinars, higher ticket upsells, or coaching..

So why would a guy who makes $25,000/mo do a wso for $7..

Do you STILL think it's not worth it for him?

I dunno.. is an extra six figures a year by doing a few lousy wso's.. is that worth it to you?

Now that's what a call an abundance mindset! I wanted to add that on Warrior Plus Total Revenues Generated are now at $18,748,638.07. It's not been two months yet either since Jarret's post. And keep in mind that not everyone in the WSO section uses WSO Pro, so the revenues generated are actually higher!

RoD

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sal64

13 years ago

Well said Jarret... Extremely well said!

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aduttonater

13 years ago

You will be surprised how many people earn $10K or more per month. You just need to discover your niche.

Figure a way to get a list of clients and repeat business from these clients.

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Mr Bill

13 years ago

Jarrett. GOLD!

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theomegaformula

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible* to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

*I think there is a bit difference in how you define the term "possible"

$10k-$50k/mo is possible but in 1-3 months.. that's a stretch. You would have to put a good bit of money into promotion and have people help you. Either that or work 28 hours a day. :rolleyes:

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Mr Bill

13 years ago

I think people might be confusing the Original Post a little.

Not sure what his original intention was but there's a whole world of difference between someone who doesn't know how to switch on a computer and wants to make 10k a month within 2 or 3 months and someone with a tonne of experience and all the skills who gets an idea and makes 10k within 2 months from "scratch".

However for a lot of us who have been at this for a long while all we need is a good idea to plug into our skills or to meet up with the right people and 10k is a walk in the park.

However I can think of someone who could make 10k within a month even without knowing how to switch on a PC. Let's say this person is a great public speaker. They get crowds all the time and really have a good message. Someone who knew what they were doing could approach them and put a JV deal together and promote the heck out of this person after the made an audio or video or transcribed a speech.

A membership site could be set up in a few hours, transcription and drafts all the way to final copy might take a week (less for urgent requests), set up a webinar, send an email out to a few good responsive lists and bam you have sold a heap of books, some audio recordings and a few memberships and they're on 10k per month or more.

Now, they may not have done the technical work but they brought the product and the marketer put the sales in place. Now, is the speaker making 10k per month from the internet? Yes! Did they do all the work themselves? No. Do any of us do all the work ourselves? No, not ever. I was born before computers so I was not born with computer knowledge.

Most of us know more than nothing so somewhere between getting a golden product handed to us on a platter and coming up with a good idea ourselves and somewhere between knowing anything and knowing a lot, the job could be done.

Can you make 10k per month within 2 months - yes, obviously.
Can you make 10k per month within 2 months without knowing anything or having a good product you want to bring online - a stretch (I agree) but still not impossible...and getting easier day by day.

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sal64

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WSOHelp

A membership site could be set up in a few hours, transcription and drafts all the way to final copy might take a week (less for urgent requests), set up a webinar, send an email out to a few good responsive lists and bam you have sold a heap of books, some audio recordings and a few memberships and they're on 10k per month or more.

ha ha ha...

You promised not to share my secrets.

One thing I'll add which may or may not be of relevance to this thread...

If you want to get to $10k per month, my belief (and how I did it) is to determine your target audience (notice I don't say niche) and build your biz around that audience.

Become an authority and you can easily dominate. Provided you take the correct steps.

Taking your membership analogy further...

A $10 per month fee x 200 members = $2k per month.

So you are 20% there already.

Of those 200 members, offer some email support and up the monthly to $47 per month.

Let's say only 50 take you up... that's now 150 @ $10 = $1500. Plus...

50 @ $47 = $2300.

We are now at $3,800. Wow, keep going.

How about a done for you product for those that want it done for them?

Depending on your audience, can you outsource and create a custom product for them? Or an ongoing service?

Let's say you get 50 take you up every month (same that pay $47).

Now you have 50 paying you $97+ per month = $4850 + the $1500... $$6350!

Ok, so let's assume you add a lousy 50 new people to your funnel each month???

You do the math!

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jacksonlin

13 years ago

It also depends on how much start up capital they have to invest at the start and who they are working with. It's THEORETICALLY possible, but hard to actually replicate.

However, 90% of the time, the 10K a month income comes from CONSISTENT AND DEDICATED HARD WORK.

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IMWinner

13 years ago

Actually, people do earn 10k a month. But like most of the warriors have stated, that feat isn't attain in just a week or month, it took them months and even years to earn that digits. One of my mentor is earning more than 10k a month, but with different niche and he has help from his work. But the idea there is that, he is earning that much. You just have to learn how to do it, and don't just rely on what you have read, try to experiment it to yourself and test it if you are interested to do more than what you have been doing.
You need to set that in your mind that IM business is not for everyone, which means that you are one of the people given the opportunities to make something out of nothing from learning in the IM world. Although I could say that there are claims or testimonials that claims to have earned more than 10k are just make-story to make them a guru. Evaluate first if the person who is claiming for that earning has credibility and his name has reputation. Like what my online friend once told me, NEVER believe everything you see, read and hear unless you conduct some evaluation on it.

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dagaul101

13 years ago

Some of them are genuine, but there is a phrase in affiliate marketing "Fake it till you make it" which unfortunately is also true

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joeyguru

13 years ago

Absolutely! There are many ways that will build incomes to this level! I agree with the folks that say TAKE ACTION! This kind of mandate is what it takes to start earning big on the internet.
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xaby

13 years ago

if you dun even believe that this can be done, then its definitely impossible. but if you believe, perhaps even $50k / $100k a month is possible. break your goals into smaller milestones.

throw in a lot of hard work, and let luck be the multiplier effect if god is willing.

after all, you cannot be failing all the time. someday, you will succeed. and your biggest enemy will be "giving up"

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kolbywhite28

13 years ago

Firstly, passive income is probably not entirely passive. That said, I believe it is possible for some very smart people to make those amounts in that timeframe. But of course, they are in the minority.

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dominateseo

13 years ago

For any thread out there that say "my success story", let me get straight that i do not believe any of them unless they show some solid proof like screenshots.

That's it. Pics or didn't happen.

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Isaiah Jackson

13 years ago

Jarret is a monster way to tell it like it is wow thats what I'm talking about

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Ellen C Braun

13 years ago

I've had a handful of 10K months since I started IM in 2005.

But most of the money I earned in IM was what you'd call 'active' rather than 'passive'.

A few months ago, I decided that I needed a plan to cut down on working and turned to Amazon passive income. I now have about 3K a month of solid PASSIVE amazon income.

Note: That comes after 6 years of building up IM skills. Working part-time and mothering 3 kids. And reinvesting about half of my total monthly income back into the business.

Can others do it faster than me? Sure! But nobody can do what I've done in the past year in their first 2 months in IM. Nobody human, that is.

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infinity306

13 years ago

My opinion is that they are all liars. They neglect to tell you they already have lists of tens of thousands and all kinds of other things. I've tried quite of few of them and found none of them to be true to their claims. NONE. It takes a very long time to make any money with adsense (and thousands and thousands of visitors) or with affiliate products. I've sold very, very few. Even with being on page one for 17 of 20 sites, I've made just over a hundred bucks in one year. It's all HYPE.

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stoogefest

13 years ago

I doubt everything over $500/month.

If anything, earners don't hang around forums

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Anang Andriana

13 years ago

Yup, it's really possible I think but..Not in "a short time"
I heard this: "someone can be called as an expert if he's been doing something for 10000 hours. So if we spent 20hours/day for it, we will be an expert on that side in 1.5 years...

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Nightengale 13 years ago

I've just spent quite a bit of time reading all of the posts in this thread. (Don't know how I missed it earlier...)

As others have mentioned:

1. I'm truly astounded by the level of cynicism surrounding IM (or ANY make-money opportunity for that matter).

Yes, I understand that there's a healthy/significant level of skepticism, but really... it's off the charts!

2. Do Warriors realize the complete contradiction in longing/hoping/wishing/believing for financial security in their own business (IM or otherwise), yet saying/believing that ALL or MOST (as in 99%) of "make money" marketers are liars?

Apparently not. :p

There are a lot of great comments here, but Jarrett's and WSOHelp's comments are OUTSTANDING! Thanks for your comments guys!

I truly feel for those who are struggling to make it or battling a string of failures. We've probably all been there. But as the two points above demonstrate, success really is dependent on YOU and your own mindset.

As others have demonstrated, $10K/mo is very possible, but that "overnight" success is usually at least 2 years in the making. And as Jarrett so thoroughly demonstrated, the money adds up rather quickly once it starts coming in, and $10K isn't at all unrealistic. It's simply about business models and leverage.

My addition to the other comments on this thread is this:

Yes, there are a lot of scammers out there. But plain logic tells you that not everyone is a scammer.

So demand more of yourself and your choices. It's your JOB to find someone who's credible, someone with RESULTS doing what you want to do. Then put on your blinders and follow them. Do everything they say. And stick with it long enough to get results.

Don't keep jumping from one thing to the next! FOCUS!

F -- Follow
O -- One
C -- Course
U -- Until
S -- Successful

In IM, I long ago found a core group of IM mentors I could trust to listen to, buy from and get recommendations for other products and services. This is a small circle of people, but I know I can trust them implicitly as they have experience and results, AND high integrity. It's paid off in spades for me. Anything and anyone else I look at with a jaundiced eye. They are my core group of mentors and I suggest you find a similar group. It will save you a lot of grief.

If you truly can't trust those giving testimonials, make a note of who they are and never listen to them or buy from them again. Period. It's YOUR job to winnow it down to a group of people you can listen to and trust, no one else's.

Hope that helps!

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JamieSEO

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Yes it is possible, however I don't believe that "income" is the right figure to consider.

There are a bunch of people earning a great "income" of $10k or so through passive income, mostly by outsourcing. "Income" means gross revenue. They may receive $10k, but they may also be paying $8k in outsourcing and other expenses.

Focus on how much PROFIT is made per month - really that is the only figure that matters

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azmanar

13 years ago

Hi,

Yes, to get that numbers need a lot of planning and hard work, initially. He treated it as a business and not a hobby.

And when he reached a stage where he can relax a bit, that is called semi-passive income, he still need to update things.

I know a guy who has more than 500 members consistently on his membership site with average 20% drop-out and join-rate each month. Monthly fee is $29.90.

Thats $14,950 minus - $3,000 = $11,000 monthly.

This figure excluded other product upsells on-site. So minus his cost and overheads, he would still be earning more than $10k a month.

Not sure how he gets his members but we can easily guess by member-get-member benefit, PPC campaigns and forum marketing.

How about if he does CPA and other activities. That would add up to his current earnings.

So, it is possible.

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paulpower

13 years ago

I can only imagine that making this kind of money each month after a couple of months is possible, but only if you focus, take action on a consistent basis, and should something go wrong, learn for that mistake and never give up.

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Jayson Masters

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz

Hi,

I'm often hearing a lot of stories about how someone is making $ 10k-50k passive income per month with affiliate marketing, CPA, simple product launches, AdSense, membership sites, drop shipping etc. etc. only after 1-3 months of work.

How truhtful are these stories/claims or what ever?

Is it just REALITY and really possible* to make $ 10k passive monthly profits in a short time just by affiliate marketing?

Or are this just myths?

If is it REALLY possible, of course I want to know how

*I think there is a bit difference in how you define the term "possible"

Of course it's possible!

It can even happen in your first week

The problem I see many affiliate marketers NOT making that amount of money is because they are very hesitant and indecisive

Also, you should have your list working for you instead of you working for it... like doing AdSwaps to expand your list

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