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Few Questions About How Panda Chewed Me Up

by Dangazzm
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Ok, so I used to make a decent sum of money online. Not nearly enough to live off of quite yet, but I WAS working on it. Some of the tricks was exact match domains, profile links all that blah blah stuff. Everything seems to have fallen off the map! I am not too worried about any of my stuff right now I am just trying to look FORWARD and see if someone would bring some insight to me. For the record though no I didn't have a ton of really... spam links the worst thing was some profile backlinks.


How do you do keyword research with Panda? Now that it seems like an EMD is not NEARLY as powerful AT THE VERY LEAST if not seemingly hurtful for a new EMD. Then what criteria do you use now? Do your domains just kinda encompass a good memorable URL that is related to the main topics you want to cover in your site?

Also do you find that non promotional content, such as informational articles that only contain information and no Amazon affiliate links (ETC.) rank better? It seems that way for me at least.

I got a ton more, yet noone to ask. But I am here to finally speak up and hopefully get some help since I really can write fairly well and quickly my content was all ranking pretty much with no backlinking I THOUGHT it was good content so the Panda update was gonna value it MORE so, however the opposite happened.

Anyways I appreciate your replies in advance, have a nice day!
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  • Profile picture of the author omrishabbat
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      I've been lucky enough to see my overall traffic increase by about a third since the Panda update.

      I'm not doing anything differently (except being a bit more careful to keep my sites up to date with fresh content).

      EMD's are still a good thing in my book - they might not be as strong as they used to be, but they certainly haven't been 'slapped' or anything.

      All my sites have plenty informational articles as well as those that are designed to get affiliate clicks.

      Good content CAN rank well with no backlinking, but without backlinks it won't stay ranked well.

      Forum profiles are probably one of the weakest types of backlinks - I used to outsource a few forum profile packages, but I don't anymore. No matter how you look at it, you're spamming forums unless you're joining to actually participate. That can't be a good thing in Google's eyes.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dangazzm
        Originally Posted by Hamida Harland View Post

        I've been lucky enough to see my overall traffic increase by about a third since the Panda update.

        I'm not doing anything differently (except being a bit more careful to keep my sites up to date with fresh content).

        EMD's are still a good thing in my book - they might not be as strong as they used to be, but they certainly haven't been 'slapped' or anything.

        All my sites have plenty informational articles as well as those that are designed to get affiliate clicks.

        Good content CAN rank well with no backlinking, but without backlinks it won't stay ranked well.

        Forum profiles are probably one of the weakest types of backlinks - I used to outsource a few forum profile packages, but I don't anymore. No matter how you look at it, you're spamming forums unless you're joining to actually participate. That can't be a good thing in Google's eyes.
        Very true about the profile backlinks...

        I guess with you constantly cranking out fresh informational content, to keep it relevant and fresh to Google you take up less sites but more quality then I assume?

        I guess I just don't know HOW to do any of it then I just doubt even the basics of myself recently hah, MAINLY keyword research. I know you need a solid foundation and with that I need to know what I am doing is correct, which I really dunno which of the methods I know to employ that I should use if that sentence makes any sense at all.

        Anyways I appreciate the insight here it kinda reassures me that making a site with fresh ONLY hand written by ME content can do well, none of that content padding and such is what I am gathering from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dangazzm
      Originally Posted by omrishabbat View Post

      I don't think that the Panda intended to attack directly affiliate articles. If it had a real value then it was OK! You need to understand that Google with the Panda can now identify if a content is shallow or quality and they are doing it pretty good! Concentrate on writing content that will help the users and hopefully you will eventually see results!
      Thank you I appreciate the encouragement in the matter. I guess you could say one of my problems was then that a good chunk of these articles was put on Hubpages, due to me starting in my online ventures I didn't have much to any money to put into it.... however now I can but THEN AGAIN it makes me doubt it very much when I put good high quality content ON hubpages... why doesn't it rank nearly as well? Hmm I honestly cannot see anything wrong with their site because most spam seems to get taken down fairly quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author glinda2011
      Just write quality content. Google panda can now detect an original article from a spun article.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dangazzm
        Originally Posted by glinda2011 View Post

        Just write quality content. Google panda can now detect an original article from a spun article.
        Yea it is getting very good, the SERPS have been getting better and better as a user for me. However I have to ask were you put your articles? In your own sites? I think that's my weakest point is the foundation for a successful site, being the research behind it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          My organic traffic's also increased since the "Panda-update".

          The Panda was kind to article marketers, in that the removal of so many article directory articles from the first pages of Google's SERP's has now made it easier for us, collectively, to rank the original copies of articles on our own sites.

          Google's gradual trend, over the last couple of years (including with the Panda update) has been to reward relevance and quality content. According to Matt Cutts, of Google, that won't be changing any time soon. I expect their further updates/algorithm changes will accentuate still more the rewards for quality and relevance, and make SEO have even less to do with "numbers of backlinks". Depending on "other people's sites" for traffic and/or backlinks is steadily becoming even less worthwhile than it's ever been.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dangazzm
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            My organic traffic's also increased since the "Panda-update".

            The Panda was kind to article marketers, in that the removal of so many article directory articles from the first pages of Google's SERP's has now made it easier for us, collectively, to rank the original copies of articles on our own sites.

            Google's gradual trend, over the last couple of years (including with the Panda update) has been to reward relevance and quality content. According to Matt Cutts, of Google, that won't be changing any time soon. I expect their further updates/algorithm changes will accentuate still more the rewards for quality and relevance, and make SEO have even less to do with "numbers of backlinks". Depending on "other people's sites" for traffic and/or backlinks is steadily becoming even less worthwhile than it's ever been.
            Ahh hah some inspirational words right here. That is exactly what I want to do is just simply write some good high quality content NOW that also makes sense since Hubpages is more of a article directory of sorts and they are removing those from the head of the pack and leaning more towards what I feel is medium sized sites... then all of it seems to be fitting together and starts to make sense! I appreciate all of you dropping some knowledge in this thread here.
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