Some TIPS for up and coming Internet marketers and money hungry folks

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Hey guys, some of this stuff seems like im just being a jerk, but honestly im not. i hope you take some of these tips to heart and really learn from them. (english isnt my first langauge)

- At some point, realize that YOU suck. and you wont be making any money online. BUT, your determined as youve been at this for a while. THATS the good news. its probebly why your reading this.

Related story - Iv always been interest in IM.. since i was 16 years old and in high school (back when AOL was popular) and i had really great ideas..

except.. id have an idea..id build a website for the idea.. except either the website would never get built, or it was half assed.. or took so long the idea was no longer good.

I REALIZED i suck at web design.. it hurt my ego, but it was true.. it wasnt that i coudlnt design one. IT WAS JUST not my strength.. so what did i do?

I FOUND someone who BREASED thru them.. my own cousin.. talked to him, gaved him my idea (my strength) and togather with his expertise and mine. put togather a website that within 3 month was making 1k a month.

- Point is, concentrate and work your strengths NOT your weakness. Find poeple who are better then you and have them work on things that you suck at.

- NEVER PAY PREIMUIM PRICE FOR ANYTHING!

Story - family member wanted to start a hair soloun. she found ALL of her in store products and equipment of a catologe at premium prices. A shampoo bowl that cost 2500 dollars.

I took her online. on craigs list. Found a almost brand new shampoo bowl for 890 dollars!

Point - 2500 shampoo bowl vs 890 shampoo bowl .. look this isnt going to put you in the poor house but if you keep paying for premium things your whole life YOU are gonna end up with a lot less money in the bank. THIS applies to everything from cars to tv's to xboses. believe me folks this stuff adds up! poeople a lot of times buy a 2011 car.. when the 2011 body style looks exactly like a 2009.. why pay a premium when u can get the same exact style car with low miles or thousands and thousands less?

CHEAT

You think bill gates didnt cheat? YOU THINK facebook was solely mark zuckerbergs idea? you think they didnt cheat? Folks, unless you break the law or do something intentionally to hurt someone.. cheating to get good grades or better yet make money should always be considered. BUT remmeber. there is a red line just make sure you dont cross it.

Story - a great promotor got a call at home late at night, the big band he was representing was doing shows in europe was really pist. everything was going bad the food was bad, the promoting was bad, the venues were bad.. the band kept complaining complaining. John (lets call him that) flies to europe.. meets with the head vocalist of the band and sais I CANT BELIEVE HOW BAD MARCUS KLIEN ****ED UP THIS TOUR. IM FIRING HIS ASS RIGHT NOW AND FIXING EVERYTHING MY SELF.

john denver walks into the band meeting and sais. dont worry guys everything is okay. john just fired marcus and is replacing him and doing everything personally.

Except Marcus klien never existed.. john completely made him up and put the blame on him and fired him.. a non existent person.

IDEAS that make money

a great idea is more the half the battle. BUT its worthless unless theres actually a point in time where an exchange of money takes place. I CANT emphesize enough, stop with your bull**** ideas that never have a chance of making any real money

Story - I had a friend, smart as ****. great with compters.. web design.. you know that geek who would always hit max level in a mmo in a week of its realease? he was that asshole.

One night, he goes i have a great idea for a business. im like whats that? hes like if we take ALL the cell phone companies, create some form of national datase where all these cell companies could .. BLAH BLAH BLAH.. all we need to do is convince the owner of the cell phone companies to do this.

I was like.. do you have the phone number of ANY of CEO of the cell phone companies. can you get in touch with them or there top management? He said no.. then i said then shut the **** up and lets concentrate on making 1k amonth first.

Its very important that your ideas dont require you to talk to the president of the usa.. or have to put up your house to fund it.. apple facebook google.. all were started up in basements.. garages.. laptops in dorm rooms.. think of ideas, YOU have control over.. mark built facebook or the foundation of it HIMSELF.. its very important that EVEN if you cant do something you have CONTROL over your ideas. ask for your friends and poeple you trust for help. BUT never relenquish the owership.

"DONT TRY and reinvent the wheel BUT take an angle that changes the dynamic and makes you different"

i had a website that was making decent money.. but i was basicaly doing the same thing as a lot of people. i thought, why dont i create an angle. as soon as i did.. the website doubled its profit per month. if your gonna copy someone else idea to make money thats fine.. like i said u dont have to reinvent the wheel. BUT add an angle to it.. make it different.. MAKE YOUR SELF STAND OUT.

" Always remmeber to pay your self"
My dad was a great business man.. had good ideas that made money, he was a hard worker.. but he never paid himself. he started a T-shirt company.. started making 250 a week.. u know what he did? he started buying 250 dollars more T-shirts a week. When he made 500 dollars more a week. he spent 500 dollars more on buying MORE t-shirt..

The point is, make sure you pay your self, meaning if you make 2 dollars. PUT 1 DOLLAR AWAY.. save it.. every transaction you do, and you make a profilt.. you take some out and PUT IT UNDER your matress..

" you wont become rich or even make a great living doing adsense"

knock it off with this adsense bull****.. ohhh i know this guy who was making 3k amonth doing adsense just of a site!!

great.. then panda hit and his 1st page ranking got droped to 10th page.. theres BETTER ways to make money trust me..

" stop trying to become rich from the stock market"

you know how who becomes rich from the stock market? NOT YOU.. stop taking your life savings of 25k putting it into pennie stocks.. or any stock.. IF you get lucky and make 10-15 percent return on the year.. that means YOU GOT A WHOPPING 2500 dollars.. can you live off that? oh btw u gotta pay 30 percent tax on that.. take 2500 reinvent in a great idea that has a great chance to make money.. and not only youll make 2500 dollars.. youll do it every month instead of once a year.

" use common sense"

serously folks, self explanatory.. honestly common sense is realy not common.

anyway thats it.. im not gonna brag about how much money i make or what kind of cars and houses i have.. doesnt proof anything. but i will tell you this, following those tips will increase your chance of making money , AT HE VERY least, saving you some time effort and money.

Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
    Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

    Great post +1
    hey bud, i saw your add on flippa good luck with that sale! and a positive comment from someone who is as successfull as you means a lot. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Yeah, I saw his post on Flippa too...wondering if it will sell. Interesting...I'm watching it. Problem is there are not many buyers with that kind of cash and the few I know who DO have that kind of cash will want considerably more information than that laid out in the auction copy...not a quick sale by any means.

    Agree with a few of the points the OP makes, but don't necessarily agree with the "cheating" or the "pay yourself first" approach. I think the best way to approach business is to provide value to whoever it is you're trying to do business with...the money will come later. Anyone coming to me proposing a business idea with dollar signs in their eyes I can spot a mile away. If they're not smart enough to approach me with the benefit to ME I know that:

    a) They're not very good at proposing business opportunities and
    b) They don't even have enough interest in my side to at least pretend they're going to help me out too
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    OP's post is actually interesting. I agree on paying yourself first. Its a matter of time before you notice that besides of the need for paying for your needs you will also have to save some money up to get the wheel rolling for your business.

    I love your example situations btw, makes sense.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
    Originally Posted by lundqvist View Post

    CHEAT

    You think bill gates didnt cheat? YOU THINK facebook was solely mark zuckerbergs idea? you think they didnt cheat? Folks, unless you break the law or do something intentionally to hurt someone.. cheating to get good grades or better yet make money should always be considered. BUT remmeber. there is a red line just make sure you dont cross it.
    Well, you had some good ideas but your lack of ethics grosses me out. Why would I want to hire someone who had to cheat to get good grades? In other words, someone unqualified to do the job. Why would I want to do business with someone who thinks it's ok to cheat the people he does business with? If you cheat others, you'll probably cheat me too.

    I'd rather deal with honorable people, thanks anyway. Perhaps it's naive, but I'd like to think that some people are honest and trustworthy.
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    • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
      Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

      Well, you had some good ideas but your lack of ethics grosses me out. Why would I want to hire someone who had to cheat to get good grades? In other words, someone unqualified to do the job. Why would I want to do business with someone who thinks it's ok to cheat the people he does business with? If you cheat others, you'll probably cheat me too.

      I'd rather deal with honorable people, thanks anyway. Perhaps it's naive, but I'd like to think that some people are honest and trustworthy.
      i think your equating my idea of cheating with going and stealing from some blind homeless guy.. thats not what i mean.

      that promotor story i wrote? thats a TRUE story.. if that promotor had gone to john denver (a famouse singer who died in a plane crash) and said oh sorry guys, this tour is going horribly because i was back in the states sleeping and partying and not paying attention. HE would have been fired.. instead he created a fictional person fired him even though he didnt exist, and then and came in for the rescue and was the hero..

      but if you think that promotor WHO BY THE WAY is now a multi multi multim millioniare 10 times over should have told the truth. then you have no business giving anyone advice here. you can get GROSSED out all you want. had microsoft apple facebook or any of those major multi billion dollar followed your advice about being honest steve.. then the sharks would have torn apart these companies and stolen it in pieces..
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by lundqvist View Post

        but if you think that promotor WHO BY THE WAY is now a multi multi multim millioniare 10 times over should have told the truth. then you have no business giving anyone advice here.
        I seem to recall that Bernie Madoff was a multi mulit miltim millionaire 10 times over at one point, too...
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        • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
          Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

          I seem to recall that Bernie Madoff was a multi mulit miltim millionaire 10 times over at one point, too...
          thats a good point steve.. but bernie maddoff.. one basically lived his whole life rich.. by the time they caught him he was well into his 70s.. two.. if you read my original post youll see that i said breaking the law and red lines are something you dont cross..

          obvously what bernie maddoff did was criminal.. he broke all the red lines.. thats not what im advocating here. theres a DIFFERENCE between a shrewed business man who doesnt show all of his cards and blatanly reaching in and stealing someones money.

          I hope were all smart enough here to know the differnce. no one is advocating being a criminal. im advocating being a shrewed business man. did my story involving the "cheating" part sound anywhere near bernie maddof? obvously not..
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  • Sorry boss, this post lost me when you told me that I suck. But reading just a bit further, I read about your rationalization of why cheating should be considered. Then I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt this post was a complete waste, for me.

    Should I lower my standards substantially, I've bookmarked this post for future reference!
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    • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
      Originally Posted by heiliger dankgesang View Post

      Sorry boss
      get used to always saying that.. i dont apologize for my success.. the difference between me and you is that you blow smoke up poeples ass about some imaginary standard.. and i make money..

      LOOK at all these corporate fat cats CEO of these companies.. did you know CEO's and corporations have made record profit the past couple of years? exon mobiles profits are so big they hardly have enough zeros to count em..

      meanwhile barely 18 thousand jobs were created last month.. for the average folk.. now im not some hippie liberal, and if those ceos havent broken any laws then all the power to them.. but have you noticed all the wall street people (minus great crashes like 2008) always come out rich? how is it that a company FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY and the ceo of the company who is running it walks out a multi millionaire?

      seriously.. have you EVER ran a company into the ground and came out a multi millionaire?

      The banks that got a bail out? they were the ones you were begging to cancel your over draft fees.. the multi billion dollar banks, that screwed you out of your 30 or 40 dollars that you needed for gas.. GOT A BAIL OUT with your tax dollars, then charged you 2.50 cents at an ATM so you can take out your OWN MONEY..

      Cheating is bad? oh yeah? then why are casinos so rich? THEY TELL YOU stright to your face that there "cheating"

      iv seen people play roullette put nearly every single dollar chip they have on almost all the numbers.. except zero and double zero/green.. and guess what? green came up.. and you watch while the dealer reaches across and takes all your chips in one fool swoop..

      they dont even PERTEND there not cheating you.. they tell you.. not ONLY we got 1 zero.. but just tell **** you further up the ass .. were gonna add a DOUBLE ZERO.. double zero? THAT DOESNT EVEN EXIST..

      they created an imaginary number to increase the odds in there favor they tell you to your face that there ****ing you. and people happily hand over the money.. they walk away with millions everyday.. you walk away with nothing.
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      • Originally Posted by lundqvist View Post

        get used to always saying that.. i dont apologize for my success.. the difference between me and you is that you blow smoke up poeples ass about some imaginary standard.. and i make money..

        LOOK at all these corporate fat cats CEO of these companies.. did you know CEO's and corporations have made record profit the past couple of years? exon mobiles profits are so big they hardly have enough zeros to count em..

        meanwhile barely 18 thousand jobs were created last month.. for the average folk.. now im not some hippie liberal, and if those ceos havent broken any laws then all the power to them.. but have you noticed all the wall street people (minus great crashes like 2008) always come out rich? how is it that a company FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY and the ceo of the company who is running it walks out a multi millionaire?

        seriously.. have you EVER ran a company into the ground and came out a multi millionaire?

        The banks that got a bail out? they were the ones you were begging to cancel your over draft fees.. the multi billion dollar banks, that screwed you out of your 30 or 40 dollars that you needed for gas.. GOT A BAIL OUT with your tax dollars, then charged you 2.50 cents at an ATM so you can take out your OWN MONEY..

        Cheating is bad? oh yeah? then why are casinos so rich? THEY TELL YOU stright to your face that there "cheating"

        iv seen people play roullette put nearly every single dollar chip they have on almost all the numbers.. except zero and double zero/green.. and guess what? green came up.. and you watch while the dealer reaches across and takes all your chips in one fool swoop..

        they dont even PERTEND there not cheating you.. they tell you.. not ONLY we got 1 zero.. but just tell **** you further up the ass .. were gonna add a DOUBLE ZERO.. double zero? THAT DOESNT EVEN EXIST..

        they created an imaginary number to increase the odds in there favor they tell you to your face that there doing that.. and people happily hand over the money.. they walk away with millions everyday.. you walk away with nothing.
        If you say so, chief!
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  • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
    A man by the name of robert adams from a state in the midwest.. FINDS 17 thousand dollars.. UNMARKED BILLS. being a high standard man he is.. he goes in and turns it in.. so he loses out on the 17 thousand dollars..

    a week or so later.. the police fine him 500 dollars for lying to the cops about where he found the 17 thousand dollars. it was a bs lie.. he just didnt want to deal with multiple counties and he was in a hurry to leave so he made up some fib to get it over with. HE WAS TRYING to do the right thing by giving back the money..

    you know what he got for his efforts? him being 17,500 poorer..
    Robert Adams Fined $500 For Lying About Where He Found $17,000
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  • Profile picture of the author derekmichael02
    I like the point "realize you suck" because we all do at something. I think you can add this:

    "Pick something and go with it"

    Shiny object syndrome and lack of focus will destroy and frustrate you faster than ANYTHING
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    • Profile picture of the author WebPen
      Originally Posted by derekmichael02 View Post

      Shiny object syndrome and lack of focus will destroy and frustrate you faster than ANYTHING
      Preach it, Derek!

      That said, people do it because it's very tempting, so even knowing that you shouldn't do it isn't always enough.

      I think finding someone to help keep you on track can be huge. Just because you're working for yourself/building a business doesn't mean you have to do it by yourself.

      Just ask a family member or another Warrior to check up on you every few days, and you do the same with them.

      It works with losing weight, it works with business, it works with school- everything!
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      • Profile picture of the author lundqvist
        Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire View Post

        Preach it, Derek!

        That said, people do it because it's very tempting, so even knowing that you shouldn't do it isn't always enough.

        I think finding someone to help keep you on track can be huge. Just because you're working for yourself/building a business doesn't mean you have to do it by yourself.

        Just ask a family member or another Warrior to check up on you every few days, and you do the same with them.

        It works with losing weight, it works with business, it works with school- everything!
        exactly! the whole point of that you suck doesnt mean YOU SHOULD QUIT.. it just means you arent good at everything. Get help.. stay focused.. have people compliment your weaker aspects and remember theres nothing wrong with asking for help!
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