Selling audiobook versions of PLR on amazon and iTunes

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Hi Everyone!
I've been reading in this forum for few months now and this is my first thread.
I am an entrepreneur, Internet marketer and success coach.
I develop and market self-help and personal development training programs.

My Questions are -

Does anyone have experience with selling audiobook versions of PLR on amazon and itunes? If so I would like to get some tips and insights.

For the rest of you - does it sound like a viable business model?

Thanks,

Eran
#amazon #audiobook #itunes #plr #selling #versions
  • Profile picture of the author rickstooker
    Arghh!!!

    Just what the world doesn't need -- a new form of digitized manure and new places
    to sell it.

    If you've followed the forum for a few months, you may have seen how Kindle is finally
    cracking down on PLR. And that at least a few warriors believe it's not okay to make
    money by selling anything it's possible to dupe people into buying.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eran Roseman
      I've read those threads. I agree that by just selling a PLR you add no value.

      In my opinion by turning it into audiobooks I do add additional value to the customer. There are a lot of people, including me, that prefer audiobooks to reading. Assuming I am using high quality PLR with high quality content, turning it into an audiobook creates unique value to the customer.

      Does anyone else thinks this is just another way to create spam content?
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      • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
        Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

        Does anyone else thinks this is just another way to create spam content?
        YES!

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        • Profile picture of the author Eran Roseman
          I thought I came up with a really cool idea. No one agrees?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
        Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

        I've read those threads. I agree that by just selling a PLR you add no value.

        In my opinion by turning it into audiobooks I do add additional value to the customer. There are a lot of people, including me, that prefer audiobooks to reading. Assuming I am using high quality PLR with high quality content, turning it into an audiobook creates unique value to the customer.

        Does anyone else thinks this is just another way to create spam content?
        Well I agree that it can add value. If there's nothing out there, and the quality of the PLR is good, then of course it's adding value. I am one of those people who loves audiobooks. There's a huge market in audiobooks as there currently aren't nearly as many titles available as for eBooks or physical books.

        I love audiobooks so much that I sometimes don't buy physical books/ eBooks but if there was an audiobook available on the topic I would buy that. I am talking from a customer perspective here.

        I think it's pretty extreme to say that this is another way to spam people in all cases, it really depends on a number of different factors. For a start, the spammers tend to be the ones who spend 5 minutes adding books to Kindle. It's going to take a lot more time to put together a proper audiobook and upload it.

        I say go for it IF you have high quality PLR that you truly believe will satisfy people looking for info on that topic. And NOT if it's been done a million times before.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Eran, I think it comes down to how well your definition of "high quality PLR" matches what the public wants. YouTube is littered with "videos" featuring people scrolling a PowerPoint or Word version of an article while they read the voice-over. Ask them if this is 'quality content', and they'll tell you yes.

          The trick will be to do it so well that no one can tell you used PLR as your script. And 99% of the PLR I've encountered won't meet that standard.

          Encouraging people to simply read PLR into a recorder and call it an audio book is a slippery slope. What happens when someone gets too lazy to even read the PLR? (Not implying that you are lazy.) They get some text to speech synthesizer, feed the PLR into it and call it good.

          When a few thousand people (and it may take a lot less than that) start taking shortcuts and lowering quality standards, the marketplaces will face the same challenge Kindle has now...

          How to weed out the crap from the hustlers and quick-buck artists and still have a reasonably open market.

          If you do decide to try this idea, start slow. Learn what works and what doesn't. And do it so well that your buyers won't know or care where your source material came from.
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          • Profile picture of the author Eran Roseman
            John,
            My intention is to do high quality audiobooks using profesional narrators. The idea behind using PLR was to cut costs and time. Developing my own content will require a bigger investment in both money and time.

            From what you are saying, time is of the essence here. If this is going to be a trend, it is better to be in the game and acquire reputation before a lot of spam content will be created. Don't you agree?

            I know most of the PLR out there is low quality. I started using easyPLR lately and I find the quality to be very good.

            Ruth,
            I am like you. I will always prefer an audiobook. Maybe a good strategy is to contact vendors of best selling eBooks and do an audiobook JV with them.
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            • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
              Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

              John,
              Maybe a good strategy is to contact vendors of best selling eBooks and do an audiobook JV with them.
              I like this idea. I personally prefer video presentations as I tend to lose focus on what I'm listening to if there's nothing to stimulate my eyes. Maybe I watch too much TV

              MB
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              • Profile picture of the author Eran Roseman
                MB,
                Turning an audiobook into a video is a breeze.

                I;m not sure I made myself clear - I was thinking mainly on short .99$ to sell on iTunes.
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                • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
                  Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

                  MB,
                  Turning an audiobook into a video is a breeze.

                  I;m not sure I made myself clear - I was thinking mainly on short .99$ to sell on iTunes.
                  I can see the sales funnel right now

                  ebook > audiobook > video presentation > ebook + video + resources templates etc

                  :-)
                  MB
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

              John,
              My intention is to do high quality audiobooks using profesional narrators. The idea behind using PLR was to cut costs and time. Developing my own content will require a bigger investment in both money and time.

              From what you are saying, time is of the essence here. If this is going to be a trend, it is better to be in the game and acquire reputation before a lot of spam content will be created. Don't you agree?

              I know most of the PLR out there is low quality. I started using easyPLR lately and I find the quality to be very good.

              Ruth,
              I am like you. I will always prefer an audiobook. Maybe a good strategy is to contact vendors of best selling eBooks and do an audiobook JV with them.
              If the quality is good, PLR books can be a good starting point. I would still recommend putting some effort into making them your own. Add material, subtract stuff that doesn't make sense, add your own "voice" to it.

              Even if you do a quality job, with pro voice talent, you'll end up competing with the nimrods I was complaining about.

              An original title, graphics (yes, even for an audio book) and upgraded content will set you apart from the copycats.

              JVs with best-selling authors/publishers is another good route, IMO.
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            • Profile picture of the author rainman
              Originally Posted by Eran Roseman View Post

              I know most of the PLR out there is low quality. I started using easyPLR lately and I find the quality to be very good.
              If you are using Nicole's material, then you are definitely starting with high quality PLR content...

              Choosing a professional narrator is smart, unless you have "radio-voice" that will grab folks attention...

              I have 2 itunes channels up and running with PLR/professional narration - one channel is mp3 and the other mp4.

              Haven't tried Amazon yet, but I hear James Jones is having a webinar Wednesday, July 13, 7:00 PM - 8:30 PM EDT.

              James is going to create an ebook live, then list the ebook in the Kindle Store showing you step-by-step exactly how he does it.

              I'll drop the link via pm...
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
    I just want to add a +1 to what JohnMcCabe has said up there. IMO when you decide to use PLR for anything you MUST see it as an outline. Something you can read that gets your creative juices flowing.

    I can only speak for myself here BUT when I try to get started creating a product of any kind, article, ebook, presentation etc I just cant get into it until I've seen what other have done. This usually sparks a creative (or maybe competitive) buzz inside me and that is the moment when I sit down and bash out my own (IMO better) version of what I've just read, heard or seen.

    Just to re-iterate. You must absolutely bring something new to the table when using PLR. Use it as a course guide but don't use it as the course.

    My 2c
    MB
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  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    If the PLR is quality or what you add to it is quality, WHY NOT?

    I read this same idea in regards to public domain information a few years ago and thought it was a good idea so why not apply it to PLR?

    It is doubtful anyone who is successful and making money with this idea will provide you with a positive answer thus you should go with your own feelings, test the market and move on from there. I personally wish you success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Johns
    If you are planning on doing this then you are going to have to spend several hundred dollars buying bar codes and registering with certain agencies which have annual fees. An alternative is you "rent" a bar code from a company for a yearly fee.

    I've checked in to adding MP3's to both Amazon and iTunes and without the bar codes they won't let you through the door!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eran Roseman
      John,
      Changing the title is certainly a must. I am sure the graphic can also make a big difference. Great tips.

      MB,
      I like your forward oriented thinking. When I have some audiobooks running I will go on a similar root.

      GlobalTrades,
      Thanks for the wishes.

      Rainman,
      I saw your PM only after the webinar ended. I would love if you can share with me some of your experience.

      Jason,
      I never heard of the bar code thing. Can you post a link?

      To anyone who PMed me - I cannot reply because I haven't posted enough. Sorry
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      • Profile picture of the author capitalist37
        Eran,
        You may have already found this out. The bar code or UPC is an easy fix. Like many things in this business it takes knowledge.

        I purchased 10 UPC / barcodes for $20. They are mine forever, I do not have to register with any agency, now, or ever. I can change the products assigned to them by retiring that product or editing the application.

        All the best to you.

        By the way, I love audiobooks too! Makes sense to learn something while driving around all day!
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