"Does My Fake Screenshot Look Convincing?"

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Had to share this.. almost spat out my coffee when reading this email.

Hi Mick,


Greetings of the day! I've been on your newsletter for a couple of months and I love your site. Now I need your help.


I am going to launch a make money online product soon and I am giving you the opportunity to become an affiliate for 70% commission. It will be a huge product.


Please look at my sales letter *************


I have put lots of work into this.


What do you think? If you like it will you give me a testimonial? Does the earnings screen shot look real? What would you change to make it better? Any suggestions would be very useful.


To our success,
******* ********
I could point out all the things wrong with this (besides asking me if a screenshot looks real !?!). Once I stopped laughing it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list.
#convincing #fake #screenshot
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    That is too funny... and we wonder why the IM industry gets such a bad rap. I am still amazed by some of the stuff I come across.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Chernikov
    Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

    Had to share this.. almost spat out my coffee when reading this email.



    I could point out all the things wrong with this (besides asking me if a screenshot looks real !?!) but once I stopped laughing it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list.
    Well, technically he didn't state it is a fake screenshot; he just asked if it looks real If people are having trouble telling fake screenshots from real ones, it logically follows that they will have trouble telling real ones from fake ones.

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    • Profile picture of the author PR0VIDENCE
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      Originally Posted by George Chernikov View Post

      Well, technically he didn't state it is a fake screenshot
      The title of the thread: " Does My Fake Screenshot Look Convincing?"
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      • Profile picture of the author George Chernikov
        Originally Posted by enlightenedone View Post

        The title of the thread: " Does My Fake Screenshot Look Convincing?"
        The word "fake" was added by the OP; if you look at the original e-mail:

        What do you think? If you like it will you give me a testimonial? Does the earnings screen shot look real? What would you change to make it better? Any suggestions would be very useful.
        ORIGINAL: Does the earnings screen shot look real?
        POSTED: Does my fake screenshot look convincing?

        No reference to "fake" anywhere.
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        • Profile picture of the author PR0VIDENCE
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          Originally Posted by George Chernikov View Post

          The word "fake" was added by the OP; if you look at the original e-mail:



          ORIGINAL: Does the earnings screen shot look real?
          POSTED: Does my fake screenshot look convincing?

          No reference to "fake" anywhere.
          Cool. Good thing he added because I would have never... EVER, guessed. :rolleyes:
          LOL. The only time I believe what I see is a testimonial in a forum from somebody with a rep at stake and who will be called out for false testimony.
          Screenshots, onsite blurbs and even videos, I generally look past without the slightest consideration.
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by George Chernikov View Post

          The word "fake" was added by the OP; if you look at the original e-mail:



          ORIGINAL: Does the earnings screen shot look real?
          POSTED: Does my fake screenshot look convincing?

          No reference to "fake" anywhere.
          Haven't you heard the phrase "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story"?

          The OP should have amended the original email and inserted the word 'fake' to ensure we can have a good group rant about this :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by George Chernikov View Post

          The word "fake" was added by the OP; if you look at the original e-mail:



          ORIGINAL: Does the earnings screen shot look real?
          POSTED: Does my fake screenshot look convincing?

          No reference to "fake" anywhere.
          A person with a little bit of a brain would have concluded that the sentence: "Does the earnings screen shot look real" exactly means that it is fake, you don't even have to look at the screenshot to conclude that.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Hahaha,

    You are so right... there are so many people who believe that IM is all about scamming people.

    At a point, I wanted to put a post to show people how easy it is to fake earnings shots, without using Photoshop. My (wishful) thinking was that it would make people more careful before buying into "proof"

    But then, I realized certain people would take it as a lesson on how to scam others. So I just left it alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    I had a look at this sales page and the screenshot is fake, the CB stats don't make sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author handy
    Yeah I think those are so overused now that they are no longer convincing, to the point where some people have to take videos of themselves logging in to their CB accounts!
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    • Another good reason not to pay any attention to screenshots on a sales page. They are damn hard to ignore though
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by handy View Post

      Yeah I think those are so overused now that they are no longer convincing, to the point where some people have to take videos of themselves logging in to their CB accounts!
      Sadly, those have been and are being faked too. At some point people will just video themselves walking into their bank with their C.P.A. doing a real live stream webcast to prove what they earned, of course with everyone in the video showing real time, signed affadavits!!

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      • Profile picture of the author WebPen
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        Sadly, those have been and are being faked too. At some point people will just video themselves walking into their bank with their C.P.A. doing a real live stream webcast to prove what they earned, of course with everyone in the video showing real time, signed affadavits!!

        RoD
        Yup, I've seen a few videos where they guy is logging into his CB account on video, but many times there's a point where the screen kinda jumps in a way that doesn't make sense.

        Or they'll say "watch me turn this BRAND NEW CB ACCOUNT start raking in cash in 90 seconds!", and all they're doing is emailing their list about their launch or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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    *sigh* i hate people like this guy, I truly do.

    I am drinking coffee btw, I almost spit mine out too
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    Yep it gives the rest of us a bad name.

    I figure the guy is either a noob and doesn't understand how we do things, has a warped view of the industry and believes it's what everyone is doing.

    Or he is just a scumbag.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Amazing one. The guy is not really new, right? I mean, look, he has been on your list for 2 months (or that is what he claims, unless the claim was wrong). Surely you do learn a lot in 2 serious months, unless the only thing you want to learn is how to scam people?
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    • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
      Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

      Yep it gives the rest of us a bad name.

      I figure the guy is either a noob and doesn't understand how we do things, has a warped view of the industry and believes it's what everyone is doing.

      Or he is just a scumbag.
      Maybe it is a little of all the above.

      However, in his defense, I can see how he could be lead to the conclusion that it is OK to fake a screenshot. Honest to god, just how many do you actually think are real? 50%, 25%, 10% ??

      I may be far to pessimistic, but I really doubt that very many of the screenshots we see are relevant, either because they have been "touched up" or because they have nothing to do with sales generated by the product they are promoting...

      The voice and actions of the honest ethical marketer have been far overrun by the loudmouth, hype and jive artists that it is getting hard to believe in any ad copy that has "proof" of income screenshots in it these days.

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      • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
        Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

        Maybe it is a little of all the above.

        However, in his defense, I can see how he could be lead to the conclusion that it is OK to fake a screenshot. Honest to god, just how many do you actually think are real? 50%, 25%, 10% ??

        I may be far to pessimistic, but I really doubt that very many of the screenshots we see are relevant, either because they have been "touched up" or because they have nothing to do with sales generated by the product they are promoting...

        The voice and actions of the honest ethical marketer have been far overrun by the loudmouth, hype and jive artists that it is getting hard to believe in any ad copy that has "proof" of income screenshots in it these days.

        [sigh]
        Well put Rick. This is part of why I put no stock in the term 'internet guru' and why the term is completely meaningless to me in every way. Its not that they don't exist, more like the term has been usurped by those who've caught on to the fact that the most readily available PLR that you can do whatever you want with is IM related. And that anyone can re-brand it however they like, charge whatever they want, and tap into the desperation niche within IM that consists of far too many people who really believe they can throw a couple hundred bucks at someone's 'secret method' to achieving an overnight ludicrously high income with no effort.

        And then when it fails they solve the problem by throwing more money into something else. Rinse and repeat until they run out of money, call it quits, or realize if it were that easy, every single member here would be an overnight millionaire; and start over with the understanding that it isn't an overnight effort, it takes a lot of hard work, and you guarantee your own success by what you put into creating it and not the money you throw at trying to buy it.

        I have a small edge in that in coming from the addictions and substance abuse field, I've already been thoroughly exposed to manipulation and exploitation tactics up close and personal, and therefore I came into this far more cynical than I think most do. I've also had enough success in previous areas to know that you don't attain it by throwing money at it or expecting results over night, and that if it looks too good to be true that's because it is too good to be true.

        Or mathematically, success = productive time * hard work * tested ideas * out of the box thinking * positive attitude * persistence & patience + networking.

        There's no short cuts in the equation because there's no short cuts in real life, and succeeding in business online in this respect is the same as succeeding in business (or other endeavours) offline. It has its unique quirks particular to it (which you can make work for you, or have them work against you), but the fundamentals here are still the same as they are elsewhere.

        -Spyder
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
        Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

        However, in his defense, I can see how he could be lead to the conclusion that it is OK to fake a screenshot.
        I briefly thought that myself and thought about setting him right about a few things because it's obvious he needs an education.

        On the other hand, I don't really want to deal with people who even think it's ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    People are so silly. If your going to fake a screenshot why in the hell would you tell anyone, or even ask if it looks fake? There is no way in hell people could be that dumb?

    Oh well, lump them into the same category as those who ask for help on a message board when there sig file is promoting "expert advice" on the very question they are seeking an answer to...

    EDIT: Obviously it is NOT ok to create a fake screen shot for "income proof." Your dumb to even try, and even dumber to ask someone if it looks fake if you attempted to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    Can't blame that guy. He must've been scammed by someone therefore he may have thought that internet marketing and product creation is all about trying to create fake stuff and sell it to people with a guarantee period before which they will forget about asking refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author kellyburdes
      You can certainly blame the guy for being an unethical moron.

      Originally Posted by gskesavan View Post

      Can't blame that guy. He must've been scammed by someone therefore he may have thought that internet marketing and product creation is all about trying to create fake stuff and sell it to people with a guarantee period before which they will forget about asking refund.
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  • lol because of guys like him IMers are getting a bad image i doubt he will succeed online he will get more refunds requests then making money of his fake screenshots .
    LOL@it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list. did he re opt in? or you blocked him for good?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    WAIT..... So you guys are saying that using a fake screenshot of earning is not good? lol...

    I havent used a screenshot of earnings yet, but almost did when I launched my product. But the only challenge is that I use my Paypal account for everything so I have payments coming in from everywhere and also withdrawals for using my Paypal debit card daily. So I guess I would need to do a little photoshop just to show earnings...lol

    Apparently here is a kick ass screenshot of Brad Gosse's latest earnings! WOW!





    I saw Brad speak at the Warrior Networking event a few weeks ago and he did mention that at one point his Paypal account got frozen and now I can see why! He must have broke the system with all that cash coming in!

    Apparently he is teaching you how you can get the same results in under 5 minutes! This should be a WSO!

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    • Profile picture of the author socialanthem
      well the marketing industry as a whole is bad... Jesus. How else are you guys gonna sell more I got rich off this technique while still living in a basement just saying
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      • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
        Originally Posted by socialanthem View Post

        well the marketing industry as a whole is bad... Jesus. How else are you guys gonna sell more I got rich off this technique while still living in a basement just saying
        Lets not tar everyone with the same brush. I've never sold, nor promoted, any 'get rich quick' scheme, nor do I ever intend to. I would image the same is true for most of those on this thread.

        IM is a lot like real life in that it has its bad apples just as you'll find them in RL. Here, just as there, the same rule applies: caveat emptor.

        -Spyder
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    Wow, he could almost fix the US's debt crisis single-handedly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    So this doesn't work any more?

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    • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      So this doesn't work any more?

      hahaha hey thanks for the laugh....
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Spyder77 View Post

        First newsletter I've received after an opt-in that's prompted me to report it as a fishing scam instead of simply opting opting out: I signed up for a newsletter, I didn't give permission to spam my inbox with duplicate email with three subjects lines sent from two addresses over a 2 day period.

        -Spyder
        Please! There is no such thing as a fishing scam - they really were biting like crazy yesterday...:p

        Now a "phishing" scam is another story...
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        • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Please! There is no such thing as a fishing scam - they really were biting like crazy yesterday...:p

          Now a "phishing" scam is another story...
          Whoops. Guilty as charged of misusing a phonetically similar word in a quick forum reply. And though I know the difference between them and mostly use them properly, I sometimes incorrectly interchange the words their, there, and they're as well.

          I should probably proofread my forum posts more carefully before hitting 'submit reply.' I don't because its a forum, and though this one is one of the very few I've been a member of where most of the members are pretty decent writers (and a few are outstanding), the majority of others I'm active on (or have been in the past) are not, and my minimalist approach there still stands above 99% of what I'm responding to on those forums.

          Here that's not the case, and I should raise the bar a little higher.

          At any rate, good catch (pun intended).
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    That is a nice chank of change for zero work done.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyburdes
    I always love it when people write me offering me "the opportunity to become my affiliate"....as if they are doing me the favor by paying a pitly ass commission in return for me turning over the best leads on my list to them to do with as they please.

    I send out affiliate offers all the time, but only to those who will give something to me of equal or greater value in return, and it's not a commission check I can cash one time after a launch.



    Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

    Had to share this.. almost spat out my coffee when reading this email.



    I could point out all the things wrong with this (besides asking me if a screenshot looks real !?!). Once I stopped laughing it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list.
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  • Profile picture of the author NoBSGuy
    Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

    Had to share this.. almost spat out my coffee when reading this email.



    I could point out all the things wrong with this (besides asking me if a screenshot looks real !?!). Once I stopped laughing it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list.
    He earned himself the title as most honest scam creator since IM
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  • Profile picture of the author A T L
    What has the world come to, when a person expects others to fall for such failure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Helena33
      These kind of dishonest people are disgusting.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Thanks for the laugh, Mick. (You, too, Rus)

        I just wish that all of my competitors were as clumsy and clueless as that poor SOB appears...
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Donovan
    Dat's funny!
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I will be glad to judge whether your fake boobs look real, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you want me to critique your fake earnings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      I will be glad to judge whether your fake boobs look real, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you want me to critique your fake earnings.

      LOL! EBR said Boobs!



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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew S
    Mick why are you outing me bro?

    It's not my fault I'm amateur with the photoshop
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  • Profile picture of the author MrJupiter
    Lol, I love Russ's rendition. You really have to look twice to see if it's real or not .

    Thanks to the OP. This is embarrassing, but funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    ALL screenshots look fake to me. I have never seen a single one that looks real. I can't be bothered to do detective work - I just ignore them all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucas Adamski
    Haha, well asking this is just wrong xD
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I would love to see this sales page. How bad was the screenshot? Its sad how many of those things actually trick newbies though. Back when I first started that was the easiest way to sell me on a product. I would see a clickbank stat page that had a few days of zeros and then thousands of dollars and I would salivate. I thought I could really make that kind of money with like three days of effort. Boy was I naive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    I'll blank out the product details in photoshop and post the screenshot when I get a chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

      I'll blank out the product details in photoshop and post the screenshot when I get a chance.
      Subscribed to the thread and you can bet that I'll be waiting for it I could use a good laugh today.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnny_h
    You know, there are still a lot of people that sell products making fake claims. I'm not naming any names, but a particular WSO I bought recently made claims of earnings - no screen shots, mind you, just claims - then when I go through the program to implement the method it's not something that can actually be done! (or parts of it)

    Now how could the dude be making $xxxx a month from something that he can't actually do himself?...

    So, while I do agree that there are lots of folks out there that create great products that have educated me and helped me with my own IM, there are still some folks that are just plain out lying about their products. I now automatically assume that all screenshots are fake, and will generally avoid any products making earnings claims...
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

    Had to share this.. almost spat out my coffee when reading this email.



    I could point out all the things wrong with this (besides asking me if a screenshot looks real !?!). Once I stopped laughing it's the first time I've had to delete someone from my list.
    That tops my best IM newsletter to date: "How to use Yahoo Answers to drive traffic to your website and ...." (you can guess the rest). I opted out after that one.

    Stupider still in its own way: the product service I double opted in to use, and who then followed up with two identical e-mails that pimped the same products, had zero added value in them, and which had different titles; and who then followed it up the next day with the exact same email offer from a completely different address and subject, but the same logo inside, and exact same product (or "tip" as they called it).

    First newsletter I've received after an opt-in that's prompted me to report it as a fishing scam instead of simply opting opting out: I signed up for a newsletter, I didn't give permission to spam my inbox with duplicate email with three subjects lines sent from two addresses over a 2 day period.

    -Spyder
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Smith
    Never fails there will always be people ruining it for the rest of us. People let the bad get rid of the good. Not fair if you ask me.

    I have seen so many sales pages that have fake written all over them. I tend to look at stuff people offer just to keep up. Not at all cool!
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    • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
      Originally Posted by ahang View Post

      Never fails there will always be people ruining it for the rest of us. People let the bad get rid of the good. Not fair if you ask me.

      I have seen so many sales pages that have fake written all over them. I tend to look at stuff people offer just to keep up. Not at all cool!
      I can deal with the fake because there is so much of it there. Harder to deal with are the sales pages that I have to scroll until the end of time (which in reality means my hitting the back button first, then getting past the "yes I really don't wish to be blinded by any more of your crap" prompts that come up), are filled with endless rows of big bold face red text, 200 testimonials, 300 reasons why I want to buy it, 400 reasons I want to buy it now, and 500 reasons why it would be a mistake to miss this ONE TIME ONLY offer you'll show me again as soon as I try and close the tab.

      Hint to those doing this: if your product, or sales ability, isn't good enough to hook me with one viewable page, your odds decrease twice as much with two, and astronomically plummet with each additional page added. They don't scream "buy" they scream "worthless crap" and "scam." And you've just provided at least one new person all the incentive they need to install an ad blocker that hurts the rest of us who understand the difference between the art of selling and abject desperation.

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  • Profile picture of the author derricks4
    Haha, now I like the way the OP interpreted it. If that is how it was meant "hey man did I photoshop this well enough?", then this is a hilarious topic. If not, he needs to proofread what he writes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    It's got my "stamp of approval" to prevent other idiots from using it - but you'd have to be really dumb to use this.

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    • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
      Originally Posted by Mick Meaney View Post

      It's got my "stamp of approval" to prevent other idiots from using it - but you'd have to be really dumb to use this.

      Indeed. The idiocy on display is very much in-line with that shown you in the original email. Which begs the question, how to reward for consistency if nothing else?

      I can think of several good e-card services where you can send her a fitting thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    I don't blame this guy at all for thinking that's how the MMO niche works, that's hilarious though.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    ha ha, nice income.

    I think there is a website and a marketer that shows you how to fake these screen shots. Its sad when you actually see people do it to put on their sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author DonMarketer
    We all know there are a lot of charlatans out there who will do anything for few backs. Short time benefit for long time pain! The truth will inevitable catch up with them...
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  • Profile picture of the author Micah Medina
    if you're going to go around faking things...



    ... at least get some booze out of the deal.
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