Landing pages: long or short

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I have started to learn about landing pages and all the advices point in two directions:

The long ones
and
The short ones

The long ones have looooads of text, lots of info, answer all questions, explain the product, testimonials etc. etc.

the short ones have advices like: Don't scroll - CTA in the very top, clear, direct and once again: short...

So besides doing the split testing on these two different types of LPs is there any advice on which ones works good with which products and traffic ?

Facebook = short LPs or is that just too optimistic to think there is any rules like that ?

Oh, and while I'm at it, if anybody has links to some great LP guides, tips and tricks it would be greatly appreciated...
#landing #long #pages #short
  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
    Both work great according to my experience but shorter landing pages are getting more appreciated lately.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike sid
      But what is it is product that needs a lot of explanation ?
      Would you put a order form on the LP and no other outgoing links for more info ?

      Just short and sweet with a CTA on it...
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian John
        the standard response your likely going to get for that question is "as long as it needs to be."

        that being said, as smartdoctor wrote, i think shorter pages may be a bit more appreciated these days...i know by me they are. perhaps because there's just so many looong pages advertising similar products that it can be hard to get through several of them to make an informed decision. that obviously wasn't the case some yrs ago when there were less products competing for the same space.

        i think (and i'm no expert) that more concise, credential-filled/authoritative, educational pages work better than the drawn out story-type. also, getting a vid or at least a voice taking makes the page much more personal and inviting. it seems to me that this is the way advertising in general is moving.
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      • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
        Originally Posted by Mike sid View Post

        But what is it is product that needs a lot of explanation ?
        Would you put a order form on the LP and no other outgoing links for more info ?

        Just short and sweet with a CTA on it...
        What product? Well it would depend on the product as how much explanation would need in order to successfully sett it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoria Gates
    To the point at the top + longer explanation for those who need to read a novel before they decide.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
      Originally Posted by Victoria Gates View Post

      To the point at the top + longer explanation for those who need to read a novel before they decide.
      I agree with this. Your first 200-300 words should be enough to sell your product to people that are already looking to buy. Below that, you an add additional information and statistics to draw in the rest of the customers.
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    • Profile picture of the author ephame
      I think shorter landing pages longer sales pages generally work best, but you will always have exceptions. Use both test and compare then pick the larger converting of the two.
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      • Profile picture of the author john14317
        The landing page with the shortest copy (and fewest required information fields) delivered the best response - up to a certain point. The study found that it is definitely possible to provide too little information and therefore reduce the response. Your copy must be long enough to communicate the value proposition.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        The heading states "Landing Pages", but it seems clear from the responses that most people are taking that to mean sales pages.

        If that's the case, the issue regarding long vs short copy is commonly debated and the best answer I've seen is that it should be as long as it needs to be, and no longer.

        But a landing page is any page that a visitor lands on when arriving at your site. That's usually the home page, but could be any other internal page. How that page is structured is going to depend on what experience you want your visitor to have when she turns up.


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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
      Originally Posted by Victoria Gates View Post

      To the point at the top + longer explanation for those who need to read a novel before they decide.
      I agree. Keep in mind that you only have a very short window of opportunity to persuade the customer to act in the way you want them too. And take note also not to over-promise.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander Simons
    I would say a short one,
    When i see a long landing page ill usally just skimm the page and then leave, when i see a short strait to point landing page will I read it all and the chance that I buy is much higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    It sometimes depends on the product and how much explanation is required.

    Test both and see which works better
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  • i would go for the short one at least if i am getting to a long landing page i don't read trough mostly click away
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  • Profile picture of the author FormerWageSlave
    there's only one answer: test everything
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    grrr...

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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    There are ALOT of "it depends" out there.

    By all means, test everything you can.

    Even still, your post made me think of THIS:
    How we made $1 million for SEOmoz

    Read their #1 point....

    Generally, I'd say LONG is the way to go....they make a very compelling case for it, and many many companies have realized huge increased earnings/sales from it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    When I go to a landing page as a customer, I prefer to see a shorter page. Since you sent me there to take action (like to opt in to your list) why make me waste time reading a novel? I could get bored and leave, or finish reading and forget that I should be opting in. Putting as little resistance between the prospect and the desired action is the key in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author sicnarf
    To me, the choice between a short or long landing page depends on the visitor. Because I'm a slow reader, I hate long sales pages and prefer the short ones that have bullets and get to the point. My wife is a fast reader and can process information rather quickly. That probably doesn't help.
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  • Profile picture of the author seo slayer
    I think long ones work better! I had and having success with them!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Bell
    If you're selling a product on the page, build a long landing page with fancy graphics and a video.

    If you're trying to build a list, keep it short and simple. A video placed next to an opt-in box works wonders.

    It also never hurts to experiment with the two and find out what works best for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    There is a ton of monumentally bad advice in this thread.

    The REAL answer is it doesn't matter how long the copy is.

    The ONLY thing that matters is HOW INTERESTING the copy
    is to a member of your carefully analyzed and selected TARGET
    MARKET.

    Everyone telling you they wouldn't read a long sales page is
    full of crap. If it is a subject that interests them and the writer
    understands his market and is capable of producing compelling
    copy...

    ...they will read all day long.
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    • Profile picture of the author SpikeS
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      There is a ton of monumentally bad advice in this thread.

      The REAL answer is it doesn't matter how long the copy is.

      The ONLY thing that matters is HOW INTERESTING the copy
      is to a member of your carefully analyzed and selected TARGET
      MARKET.

      Everyone telling you they wouldn't read a long sales page is
      full of crap. If it is a subject that interests them and the writer
      understands his market and is capable of producing compelling
      copy...

      ...they will read all day long.
      This is true.

      The long copy comes from decades of testing by people like Eugene Schwart, Gary Halbert, Dan Kennedy etc in the direct response industry. Internet marketers just adopted the same principles for the tinternet.

      Your copy should be as long as it takes to tell your reader about your story/your product/overcome objections/risk reversal etc. If that takes 10 pages or 10 lines...it dont matter. As Tsnyder said, if the person reading connects with what you wrote, they'll read it! Some of the best performing sales copy ever has been 10pages+. Video makes it possible now to just have a video but what you say will just be what you would have put in text.
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    • Profile picture of the author Henry White
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      There is a ton of monumentally bad advice in this thread.

      The REAL answer is it doesn't matter how long the copy is.

      The ONLY thing that matters is HOW INTERESTING the copy
      is to a member of your carefully analyzed and selected TARGET
      MARKET.

      Everyone telling you they wouldn't read a long sales page is
      full of crap. If it is a subject that interests them and the writer
      understands his market and is capable of producing compelling
      copy...

      ...they will read all day long.
      ...and unlike a sales video, the reader can easily scroll down to those sub-headings that have more appeal.
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  • Profile picture of the author lowkey786
    A short simple landing page is better than a long one, as long as it has the relevant information to grab the readers attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Mike sid View Post

    I have started to learn about landing pages and all the advices point in two directions:

    The long ones
    and
    The short ones
    I have many landing pages, but none of them is a sales page.

    You've confused "landing pages" with "sales pages" here, I think?

    A landing page can be a sales page, a squeeze page, an information page, an article, just your site's home page ... it can be any page you like: it's just the page on which the traffic "lands" when it clicks your link.
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  • Profile picture of the author luckystepho
    Personally I hate getting hit with a video when I click onto a sales page, but I know they convert so that's probably just me!
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalmoolah
    OK here is my thoughts for what it's worth. I absolutely hate long landing pages. Most people don't have time for them. However, I would say to split text with google analytics. that way you know for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Every page should have an objective. A landing page is often used as a pre-sell page for either an affiliate product or for your own offer.

    If the goal of a landing page is to get the visitor in the buying frame of mind the page needs to be long enough to accomplish this. That could take as few words as 200 or as many as 1200 or more.

    Generally speaking it usually works like this: The tougher the sale, the longer the page. If a product or service is new or expensive your landing page will probably be longer because it takes more words to justify a price or explain a new product. This goes for landing pages as well as sales pages.

    It's a mistake to set out to make any page long or short just for the sake of having it long or short. It's also a mistake to create a page based on length because you happen to like long or short pages. A page should be as long as it needs to be to accomplish its goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author DSepanik
    I tend to leave a site if the landing page is too long, however, some people like it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pixel Minisite
    it depends! you need to test it on everything, for me short landing page works better for services
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  • Profile picture of the author JenniferMarie
    It really depends on how you place the content and the number of opportunities for the consumer to click away. You should also take into consideration the product and what needs to be accomplished by the consumer. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim X
    For me, I prefer short, sweet, to the point landing pages.

    As was mentioned before, I think you might be confusing sales pages (a page selling a product) and squeeze pages (a page that is used for list-building by giving something away).

    As Alexa Smith said, a landing page can have any one of a number of meanings. However, when someone says landing page I automatically think squeeze page.

    When it comes to how long the copy (text on the sales/squeeze page) should be, as I said I prefer short and to the point. If I am a customer and I come to your website, I'm looking for a solution to my problem. I want you to convince me you have the answer----FAST! Or I'll go somewhere else. As entertaining as your story may be, it really doesn't tell me much about your product.

    That is just my opinion. I might be WAY off! I understand that a long page (if read) will get somebody really excited about buying the product. But if the person says very openly "Here's my product, here's what it does, here's how it could help you, here's how much it is" in a short page, I am far more impressed.

    Again I may be way off.

    Good luck my friend,
    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    My best converting landing pages are long but also include an optin form above the fold..

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  • Profile picture of the author nonnasgarden
    The internet has established itself as a dominant marketing and business medium where businesses can profit tremendously through online sales. The key to successful online sales is the marketing copy that convinces a visitor to transform into a paying customer.

    Although the final purchase is made at a “checkout” page, most of the “selling” is conducted at the page where visitors first land, also known as the landing page. A landing page is typically reached from a search engine result, a Pay Per Click (PPC) advertisement or a link from another website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tylos
    Actually some times it's depend upon services and about that pages. You need to fix it up! as per your pages. My suggestion shorten and having point to point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coach Louisa
    By landing page do you mean like a squeeze page? If this is for a opt in - it does not need to be long. Unless you are talking about those sales letters ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Coach Louisa View Post

      By landing page do you mean like a squeeze page?
      No ... he actually meant "sales pages".

      Some of the replies have taken him as meaning "sales pages", some "squeeze pages" and a few literally as "landing pages". That's why the thread's all a bit chaotic. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author amritrr
    If you are selling some sort of a concept and need a lot of convincing then you would need a long landing page. If you are selling well outlined products or services, keep it short. Simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author viscoa
    Either way make sure all the important info is above the fold!
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