Warning Explicit: Wow, It’s been a long time since I posted something here…

by lakshaybehl 74 replies
Hi Warriors…

It’s been a long time since I posted regularly here on our beloved WF. And I notice a lot of new members, as anticipated, have joined the forum. Much congrats to everyone who’s fortunate enough to be here on this forum, and of course heartiest congrats to Allen… for the forum has continued to outdo itself every time I thought that this is it… the plateau has now been reached.

And since you might not have read anything I ever wrote here, I think a little introduction is in order.

I started Internet Marketing way back in 2005, but it was only in 2008 when I took some serious coaching and started making serious money. I was in high school in 2005, and in 2008, which is also the year I joined WF, I was a second year student at IIT Delhi… studying Civil engineering.

I started out a foolish little kid who was trying to pretend to be a Guru… and smart people often saw right through me. But I was just trying to do as I had been taught. Most people were just rehashing stuff, and so that’s what I did too. I rehashed what my coach taught me, and sold the same info. Made some money that way.

Tried a lot of different things out there, but most never produce consistent income. Till date I haven’t found a source of consistent income following any system any one else taught. Damn straight!

The reason why I am writing this letter today is because I have a few things to say. I have been really stupid in the past, and I would like others to gain some leverage out of my experience.

I also want to just talk to someone who’s learning the ropes and show them what’s working for me. God knows that just a couple months ago how easy it would have been for anyone to approach me and have me mentor them for free. I am a born teacher, and I like to teach. Even in my own company, my directors tell me that I teach them most of the time. I am way too happy teaching and consulting. Showing people what to do.

However now that I have taken on a new apprentice (my own brother, actually) I would like to shape his career for the next few years. And even though I can not possibly take on the role of a mentor for anyone else right now (It’s too difficult to take care of even one mentee… it’s a full time job, really. I don’t understand how others take on six or seven apprentices at a time… don’t they have anything else to do?)… I can and will still teach you some things that will surely help you along your way to success.

Here’s my list of commandments:

1. Never put a dollar amount on yourself: I often hear people say that if they could only make x amount of money (say $3 Million) they would happily retire. That is the easiest way to sell yourself short. There is no goal that is too large, and there is no dream that is too big. Everything’s attainable or obtainable. So instead of saying I want to make $20,000 a month and I will live happily ever after… say, that in the Phase I of my business life, I want to get to $20,000 a month. Once I get there, I will find a larger goal, but that is my goal for now.

2. Act as if you are already successful: And that involves more than just affirming your gratefulness to God. Act as if you are a ****ing tycoon. Dress the part. Speak the way a tycoon would. Hire like a tycoon. Decide like a millionaire. Dream like a visionary… and chase your dreams like a lion. Live in your dream home already… start your new business already. Start networking with important people yesterday. Do whatever you are supposed to do once you are a hotshot. Remember: this is it. This is the real life. You are living it right now. This is not a dress rehearsal. So stop acting like you are waiting for something. And start living your dream life already. Work like you mean business, and ravish life like Don Juan (or Lakshay Behl) ravishes women.

3. Devote complete days to planning: I plan a lot. As soon as I have an idea, I start building blueprints. I think in stages… Stage I: Get the first client. Stage II: Leverage the case study. Stage III: Templatize the process, and Stage IV: Dominate Niche nationally and consequently globally. I also think non linearly: most people think 20% increase in income annually is good, and 100% is great. I have been making at least a 1000% leap for the last three years. I devote 2-3 days to completely plan out an idea. But this planning should not stop you from taking action fast.

4. Talk to successful people: And then I devote another 4-5 days (upto 2-3 weeks for larger ideas) to talk to really successful people (some of whom are my friends that I networked with, others are on my team, and one is my mentor. Of course also talk to really big hotshots in the industry you wish to enter). I only network with the really successful people. And I only seek advice from experienced veterans. Contrary to popular belief, these people love giving out advice much like myself to people who are not yet as successful as them. These people are neither hard to reach, nor hard to approach. They don’t spend energy trying to position themselves as a mentor or advisor… instead they have devoted lifetimes to leading and changing the landscape of the real business world out there. One of their many aspirations is to leave behind a legacy, and you could help them by seeking out their advice. Oh, and it doesn’t have to cost any money at all.

5. Get a mentor: Preferably someone who just recently retired from a top management or director level post… or even a CEO from corporate America. These people had hundreds of employees working at their command just a few short months back, and now even their own children don’t listen to them. If you are willing to not only seek advice from them, but also follow their instructions, they will be more than happy to help you out.

6. Incorporate: If you haven’t already incorporated, why the hell are you saying you want a business. Incorporation is the first step to starting a real business. Getting an office is the second. Even if that office is a small room in your home, it has to someplace no one can bother you. Concentration is super important. And then incorporating has tax benefits as well. Talk to a financial adviser about that.

7. Stop ****ing around with what’s not selling: I see most people here trying to sell what people don’t already buy. Just stop doing that. People don’t wake up in the middle of the night thinking “I wish I had an e-book to teach me how to lose weight”. They think about losing weight, and a real world solution that makes them slim yesterday. They will buy pills much more easily than they will buy an e-book. And they will go to buy their Gym instructor’s recommendations even easier than that. They will buy anything that has direct and instant gratification of their needs of money, vanity and sex. So sell what’s selling all over the world. My litmus test: Is this a product or service that is already being offered at at least 4-5 businesses in ALL the top 1000 cities of the world? Like restaurants or spa’s or gym’s or dance classes… they can be found everywhere. They are the businesses people need everywhere. And they are the businesses that will make you max. money. Not some “underwater cat-juggling video series home study course with free PDF transcriptions”.

8. Sell experiences, not benefits. I am sure you are aware that you can charge higher if you sell a hope by promising a benefit, as compared to selling a commodity. But the top dollar is made when you sell an experience. In the guru business, the experience your customers crave is reassurance. And if there’s entertainment value to it too… you are great. Tony Robbins products are sold because he reassures them that there is hope. Fran Kern reassures you that you can be a lazy surfer and still make money. David deAngelo sells the reassurance to ugly, fat and usually not so affluent guys that they can be desirable to women too, and that they can get affection too. Notice how I said affection, not sex. These people know what experience their folks are craving. Madam Mayflower knew that her clients were looking for an escort that they could talk to, tell jokes to, and have a conversation with. Of course these escorts were a sure thing, but the clients could have bought sex for a lot cheaper in the NYC. They paid top dollar for an intelligent and charismatic girl who was affectionate, admiring and respectful of these gents. If Madam Mayflower (Sydney White) sold commodity, it would have been sex. If she sold benefit, it would have been pleasure. But she sold an experience, and that was admiration for some, affection for others and respect for the rest.

9. Learn the art of prospecting: Most businesses get it wrong. You get a 2% conversion rate on your website? I guess that is acceptable because you don’t have any personal time investment in it. But how about getting a 20% conversion rate? Is it possible? Yes. How? By having a laser targeted list of buyers who already purchased multiple similar products from you very recently. They are your best prospects. When looking for an offline consultancy client, look for those who are already advertising. Far too many consultants are broke because they tried educating their people the value in advertising… they failed in effective prospecting. When I tried selling websites door to door, I made the same mistake. I didn’t just spend my time on the people who would be interested in such a service… I was offering it to everyone. So create ads that attract only your prospects, and REPEL, or even OFFEND the people who are not your prospects.

10. Most business owners don’t know jack**** about marketing: Help them sell more, one strategy at a time, and you can make so much money leveraging their products, their money, their ads and their customers that the big shot internet millionaires will appear “cute” to you. If you can help business owners effectively sell experience to their clients, then you have created value at multiple stages… which is the key to exponential profits.

11. Don’t sell just anything: I hate people who are affiliates for every me-too launch out there. I am still waiting to find a powerful authority even in the IM niche who says that this product is jack****. Don’t buy. Without any ulterior motives, that is. Sell valuable experiences. ONLY.

12. Fail: Fail more. My partners say I have Midas touch. They are wrong. I just make way too many offers, and fail way too many times. They see my 5 successful campaigns and they easily overlook my failed 50. You just can’t succeed without failing. I know you are not afraid of failing. Most people aren’t. What you are afraid of is the social repercussions of failing. What will my wife think? What will my children say? What will my friends say? What will their friends say to them? Social embarrassment is what you fear. Trust me… a brave man (or a woman who takes initiative) is only to be admired. And those who mock you for trying and failing… drop those jackasses like a piece of hot rock. This is also a cleansing exercise… or a thinning exercise… to weed out useless “friends” who bog you down.

Follow these twelve commandments religiously. And you cannot go wrong.

It’s been an interesting hour… and I like what I have done with it. Hope you take some value out of it, and start living your life like it is meant to be lived. You are moving closer to death every moment… and while that is a scary thought… you must realize that everyone dies. But only a handful – truly live.

Wishing you all success
-Lakshay Behl

P.S. Almost forget: Act when you are not fully prepared I never wait for the perfect moment. I have never had the perfect sale, and I have made over 200 deals personally. Never had the perfect ideal scenario. NEVER. But I always acted. I mean not in the beginning. But now I act despite being not ready. And the idea has served me well. I record products with a sore throat. I launch marketing campaigns without products being completed. I talk to business owners even when I don't have anything to offer to them. All the logistical steps can, and should be handled later. But test your ideas as soon as you can, and if they are worthy ideas, get them rolling ASAP. Without worrying too much about the near future...
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  • Profile picture of the author brunom
    Fantastic read. I really recommend newbies to come out here and read this. Thanks!
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    • Originally Posted by brunom View Post

      Fantastic read. I really recommend newbies to come out here and read this. Thanks!
      When I first read this sentence my brain substituted "romantic" for "fantastic." Good catch, brain! Maybe I'll give you some seafood later. :-)

      What I'm saying is this: If any of you hopefuls are ever going to amount to a hill of beans in this crazy marketing world you have to see past the romance and figure out what you're being sold. And why.

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  • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    Hi Warriors…

    [snip]
    Tried a lot of different things out there, but most never produce consistent income. Till date I haven’t found a source of consistent income following any system any one else taught. Damn straight!
    [snip]
    Wishing you all success
    -Lakshay Behl
    Sort of nice to have someone actually come out and say it. Often, the problem with trying to make money from someone else's system is that the system they are selling isn't where they are actually making the money. Forget about the so-called proof provided by CB revenues and such, there just isn't any way to verify income claims and track them to a specific system (at least to my satisfaction). Yes, I can track all my sales in various niches and methods, but proving it without a doubt to someone else is next to impossible. Verifying the total is a snap, it's the breakdown that is difficult.

    All too often, the systems being sold work (if they work at all) because of some loophole or "flywheel effect" created by all of the hoopla. Many remind me of the old newspaper article system way back in the 70's and 80's... The system went something like this:
    Make money from ads like this. Send $5 and SASE to xxxxxx for details.

    What they got for their $5 was one page that said:
    1) make copies of this sheet.
    2) place an ad in your local newspaper like the one you responded to. You can vary the wording if you like. Don't forget to include your mailing address. Don't include a phone number.
    Honestly, how many of the recent "how to do a WSO" WSOs are essentially the same thing? How many of the "make a hundred (or thousand) a day" WSOs are essentially the same? It really looks like quite a few.

    Another thought pops in. In the medical field, there is a saying about how doctors learn new procedures:
    Watch One
    Do One
    Teach One
    For IM, lets modify it some to reflect what seems to be happening online:
    Read the Copy
    Buy the system
    Rewrite the system
    Sell the "new" system
    Please note the absence of anthing related to "prove the system" or "implement the system".
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    • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
      Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

      Sort of nice to have someone actually come out and say it. Often, the problem with trying to make money from someone else's system is that the system they are selling isn't where they are actually making the money. Forget about the so-called proof provided by CB revenues and such, there just isn't any way to verify income claims and track them to a specific system (at least to my satisfaction). Yes, I can track all my sales in various niches and methods, but proving it without a doubt to someone else is next to impossible. Verifying the total is a snap, it's the breakdown that is difficult.

      All too often, the systems being sold work (if they work at all) because of some loophole or "flywheel effect" created by all of the hoopla. Many remind me of the old newspaper article system way back in the 70's and 80's... The system went something like this:
      Make money from ads like this. Send $5 and SASE to xxxxxx for details.

      What they got for their $5 was one page that said:
      1) make copies of this sheet.
      2) place an ad in your local newspaper like the one you responded to. You can vary the wording if you like. Don't forget to include your mailing address. Don't include a phone number.
      Honestly, how many of the recent "how to do a WSO" WSOs are essentially the same thing? How many of the "make a hundred (or thousand) a day" WSOs are essentially the same? It really looks like quite a few.

      Another thought pops in. In the medical field, there is a saying about how doctors learn new procedures:
      Watch One
      Do One
      Teach One
      For IM, lets modify it some to reflect what seems to be happening online:
      Read the Copy
      Buy the system
      Rewrite the system
      Sell the "new" system
      Please note the absence of anthing related to "prove the system" or "implement the system".
      True that!

      And that is part of why I wrote this post today. Not only am I feeling chatty (can you tell?)... I also disapprove of people being taken advantage of. If only everyone felt confident enough to approach the right people, and certain enough to act on their gut feeling.

      People who come from the job world are looking forward to following instructions. The loophole in IM market is that vendors claim to sell a system but in reality they are selling a job, one with exceptionally good copywriting that looks lucrative but is actually a job without a salary.

      Business requires you to know instinctively where you are headed. Needs you to be a visionary. So you have a clear idea of where you are headed, and you seek advice from those who are already there. Not from just about anyone who made some money.

      Getting advice from the right source is everything. A business person is a visionary who knows "where to go". A mentor tells him "what to do next" and an advisor tells him "how to do what he wants to do".

      But any true businessman knows what he wants to do. We all know how to lose weight, and similarly we all now how to grow our own businesses. It is our low self esteem that makes us seek out wussy reassurance rather than brutal truth and genuine advice.

      -Lakshay
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by rickfrazier1 View Post

      Please note the absence of anthing related to "prove the system" or "implement the system".
      Please also note that those of us who teach how to make products are certainly TELLING people to implement and test the system.

      The problem is that most would-be product creators don't care about the product; they only care about the money.

      Most people are stupid. You tell them exactly what to do, and they don't do it.
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      • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Please also note that those of us who teach how to make products are certainly TELLING people to implement and test the system.

        The problem is that most would-be product creators don't care about the product; they only care about the money.

        Most people are stupid. You tell them exactly what to do, and they don't do it.
        ...And it's those same people who typically post threads a few years down the road, still wondering how to make money online.

        Lakshay - amazing post man. I gotta say, the 12th point is where it's at though. Entrepreneurship is all about failure. The thing that separates the successful people from those treading water is that the successful folks know how to fail. They learn from every failure and keep on trucking. Of course, you never hear about their failures when they hit something big. Heck, a lot of people don't realize that the most successful people on earth have been through MANY bombs in their lives. All you need are those successes to make your failures appear nothing more than just another thing of the past.

        I've gotta say though, you definitely need that burning desire to succeed to keep on going. You hear it a lot. People say it a lot, but in order for success to come your way, you have got to keep on pushing and keep telling yourself that you WILL get what you want!

        No matter how many times I fail, right when I'm about ready to throw my hands up and run away from everything that desire slaps me right smack over my head, reminding me exactly of what I'm chasing after. And, that is EXACTLY why I do what I love and love what I do
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by bhuff85 View Post

          The thing that separates the successful people from those treading water is that the successful folks know how to fail.
          Nifty fun exercise:

          Find a well-known "guru" who doesn't have a "redemption" story where he was broke... or homeless... or had a tiny one-room apartment... or lived in a van down by the river!

          There's a reason that exercise is so difficult.
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      • Profile picture of the author da1fitz
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Please also note that those of us who teach how to make products are certainly TELLING people to implement and test the system.

        The problem is that most would-be product creators don't care about the product; they only care about the money.

        Most people are stupid. You tell them exactly what to do, and they don't do it.
        Howdy

        I Really haven't dug deep enough to see any replies from this but stating that people are stupid because they don't follow instructions is really disrespectful - there are numerous reasons for people not seeming to follow instructions, some possibly being that what you have said is illegal in their country or just pain wrong....
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Originally Posted by cosmokid View Post

      ...I was always one for breaking the chain. If something horrible -- or wonderful -- happened to me, I was the one who was responsible.
      Well said, Cosmo.

      But people like to say that someone or something else is responsible for they having no success.

      Because... this is the easier way.

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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    Great advice. Thanks for posting. I enjoy reading these things to try and find some stuff that I'm not already doing or things that I can improve upon. I'm sure reading that whole thing for a beginner is information overload on steroids, but still helpful none-the-less.
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    • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      Great advice. Thanks for posting. I enjoy reading these things to try and find some stuff that I'm not already doing or things that I can improve upon. I'm sure reading that whole thing for a beginner is information overload on steroids, but still helpful none-the-less.
      Your welcome...

      "I am only a beginner until the day I declare I am no more a beginner"

      -Lakshay
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        OUTSTANDING POST! I mean... unbelievably inspiring!
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian John
        Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

        Your welcome...
        "I am only a beginner until the day I declare I am no more a beginner"
        -Lakshay
        When you're green, you're growing. When you're ripe, you rot. - Ray Kroc
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    Best post I've read on here in a long time - especially Fail and Don't wait for the perfect moment, thanks dude!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiptopcat
    Act when you are not fully prepared I never wait for the perfect moment
    Lots of great points you made but I think that the most important is the one quoted above.

    Most people want to make sure that everything is completely perfect, that there website looks just right and that they have enough articles on their sites etc.

    This is all procrastination. It is hard to take that final step and I am still trying to learn this lesson.

    Tiptopcat
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    • Profile picture of the author moseleyw1111
      Every one on this forum needs to read this post great job.
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    • Profile picture of the author WorkSatisfaction
      Originally Posted by Tiptopcat View Post

      Lots of great points you made but I think that the most important is the one quoted above.

      Most people want to make sure that everything is completely perfect, that there website looks just right and that they have enough articles on their sites etc.

      This is all procrastination. It is hard to take that final step and I am still trying to learn this lesson.

      Tiptopcat
      I have to agree that the point about not waiting for the perfect moment really hit home for me.

      It is far easier to fiddle around with things just a little bit longer in an effort to get them 'exactly right' before exposing them to the world.

      Maybe it's fear of the unknown or lack of faith in our own abilities which makes us procrastinate but procrastination causes us to waste away many precious hours of our days and lives not being productive or successful.

      Taking the time to make every minute count by taking action, even when we feel we are not fully ready, will give us far more life experiences than we would ever be able to have if we continued to procrastinate.

      I am adding "Take action now' to my existing quote of inspiration which is "Try Praise" as something to inspire me on a daily basis.

      Thank-you for that truly inspiring post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Talltom1
    Lakshay,
    This is easily one of the best posts in the WF in a very long time. I'm copying it to my personal library for continued future reference.

    Thanks for taking the time to contribution this piece of wisdom.

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  • Profile picture of the author rschuchy
    What a great post! Thanks for taking your time and sharing. Your point on failure is spot on and yet very little we do as adults prepares us for that. As children we keep trying until we succeed, as adults the thought of failing can be enough to stop us.
    Great ideas, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    Fantastic post full of wisdom. Thanks for posting!
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  • Profile picture of the author BeauJustin
    Your brother is lucky to have such a gifted mentor.

    I think it's book-writing-time for Lakshay, and I don't mean some crappy Kindle, or WSO e-book. I mean a real, hardcopy life book.

    I could have read 300-400 pages of this. It really was a beautiful read.
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    • Profile picture of the author mmntv
      Originally Posted by BeauJustin View Post

      Your brother is lucky to have such a gifted mentor.

      I think it's book-writing-time for Lakshay, and I don't mean some crappy Kindle, or WSO e-book. I mean a real, hardcopy life book.

      I could have read 300-400 pages of this. It really was a beautiful read.
      This. This thread is awesome! He hit it spot on with amazing clarity. Very cool and I agree with all of his points. The part about selling experiences is absolute gold.
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  • Profile picture of the author chubbsky
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    Hi Warriors…

    P.S. Almost forget: Act when you are not fully prepared I never wait for the perfect moment. I have never had the perfect sale, and I have made over 200 deals personally. Never had the perfect ideal scenario. NEVER. But I always acted. I mean not in the beginning. But now I act despite being not ready. And the idea has served me well. I record products with a sore throat. I launch marketing campaigns without products being completed. I talk to business owners even when I don't have anything to offer to them. All the logistical steps can, and should be handled later. But test your ideas as soon as you can, and if they are worthy ideas, get them rolling ASAP. Without worrying too much about the near future...
    My favorite part! I am frozen with analysis paralysis and you have just thawed me out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Great post! Thanks for sharing this would helpful not only for beginners actually.
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  • Not be disrespectful, but first you say...

    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    Tried a lot of different things out there, but most never produce consistent income. Till date I haven’t found a source of consistent income following any system any one else taught. Damn straight!.
    And then you say...

    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    However now that I have taken on a new apprentice (my own brother, actually) I would like to shape his career for the next few years. And even though I can not possibly take on the role of a mentor for anyone else right now (It’s too difficult to take care of even one mentee… it’s a full time job, really. I don’t understand how others take on six or seven apprentices at a time… don’t they have anything else to do?)… I can and will still teach you some things that will surely help you along your way to success.
    I'm sorry, but... why should you teach anything if you haven't reached success yourself? Dont you reckon that, perhaps, you shouldn't teach what you haven't mastered?
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      why should you teach anything if you haven't reached success yourself?
      You seem to have skipped the beginning of the post where he talks about the success he found when he STOPPED "following any system any one else taught." Specifically, "it was only in 2008 when I took some serious coaching and started making serious money."

      What you have just done is called "confirmation bias." Having anticipated what you would see here, and predicted that the person saying it would be trying to trick or fool you, you looked for evidence of this.

      And behold! You have found it. This is called confirmation bias. People tend to see what they are looking for. You didn't read the post to see what it said. You simply made something up in your head, and cherry-picked the bits that meant what you made up.

      That's why previous judgment forms the root of the word prejudice.

      Most ignorance is willful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sam England
        Thanks for sharing...great post...

        Hope you have a nice day!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Lavoie
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        You seem to have skipped the beginning of the post where he talks about the success he found when he STOPPED "following any system any one else taught." Specifically, "it was only in 2008 when I took some serious coaching and started making serious money."

        What you have just done is called "confirmation bias." Having anticipated what you would see here, and predicted that the person saying it would be trying to trick or fool you, you looked for evidence of this.

        And behold! You have found it. This is called confirmation bias. People tend to see what they are looking for. You didn't read the post to see what it said. You simply made something up in your head, and cherry-picked the bits that meant what you made up.

        That's why previous judgment forms the root of the word prejudice.

        Most ignorance is willful.
        Yes and you seem to have skipped HIS begginning which you did not include in your reply where he said he did not want to be disrespectful. Which means lack of respect. Which means he MIGHT have missed a point. Seriously get off your horses, he did not take a shot at anyone, he just asked a simple question with respect. I thought the exact same thing he did and I read 90% of the OP's message. Not everyone has the time to read every thread in its integrity. Some, like me, skip parts here and there. We have full time jobs.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by wolfez View Post

          Yes and you seem to have skipped HIS begginning which you did not include in your reply where he said he did not want to be disrespectful.
          Not to be disrespectful, but you f!#k pigs.

          Of course, I might have missed something. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
          Originally Posted by wolfez View Post

          Yes and you seem to have skipped HIS begginning which you did not include in your reply where he said he did not want to be disrespectful. Which means lack of respect. Which means he MIGHT have missed a point. Seriously get off your horses, he did not take a shot at anyone, he just asked a simple question with respect. I thought the exact same thing he did and I read 90% of the OP's message. Not everyone has the time to read every thread in its integrity. Some, like me, skip parts here and there. We have full time jobs.
          Not to be disrespectful, but why are you reading the damn forum while you're doing your damn full time job? Sounds like you don't want to keep that job much longer.

          Some people nowadays.

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    • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Not be disrespectful, but first you say...



      And then you say...



      I'm sorry, but... why should you teach anything if you haven't reached success yourself? Dont you reckon that, perhaps, you shouldn't teach what you haven't mastered?
      Alright... let me get this straight... I don't appreciate you taking shots at me at all. I don't take **** from anyone, and that is a lesson I learned long ago.

      Now to answer your question, read carefully:

      I said
      "...I haven’t found a source of consistent income following any system any one else taught."

      Never did I say "I never found a system AT ALL". I just created my own system using my own intelligence and creativity, and following a lot of different pieces of advice from real super successful implementers. I took advice from a lot of people along the way, but I found my own way, and I did it myself. I followed advice, but more importantly I followed my instinct.

      And I NEVER EVER teach something that I haven't mastered myself.

      Honestly, dude, did I ever even consider offering to teach you anything?

      -Lakshay

      P.S. This is not me getting defensive... I don't need to. This is me standing up against disrespect, and that I will do. Every single time. I probably shouldn't have spent the last 5 minutes writing this post, but I can't help settle the matter when someone takes a shot at me.

      I am the first to admit I made mistakes, and I make mistakes all the time. But I have learned a few lessons in life, and one of them is I never preach what I haven't already been following for a long time.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

        P.S. This is not me getting defensive
        ...but the PS sort of is.

        Lakshay, some people don't know and don't want to know. They see conspiracy and fraud and scammery everywhere they look, because they already know there is no such thing as an honest salesman or an ethical marketer.

        So even when they're looking right at one, they don't see it. After all, those don't exist.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Great Thread, hope you will share some more of your ideas with us in the future. Dont be a stranger here

    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    Hi Warriors…
    It’s been a long time since I posted regularly here
    Here’s my list of commandments:

    1. Never put a dollar amount on yourself:
    2. Act as if you are already successful:
    3. Devote complete days to planning:
    4. Talk to successful people:
    5. Get a mentor: .
    6. Incorporate:
    7. Stop ****ing around with what’s not selling:
    8. Sell experiences, not benefits.
    9. Learn the art of prospecting:
    10. Most business owners don’t know jack**** about marketing:
    11. Don’t sell just anything:
    12. Fail: Fail more. .

    But only a handful – truly live.

    Wishing you all success
    -Lakshay Behl

    P.S. Almost forget: Act when you are not fully prepared I never wait .
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  • Profile picture of the author susanm
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    underwater cat-juggling video series home study course with free PDF transcriptions.
    This made me laugh out loud! My cat, however, was not amused.

    Seriously, though, this is great advice. I saved a copy of it for future reference.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Galt
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    Hi Warriors…


    7. Stop ****ing around with what’s not selling: I see most people here trying to sell what people don’t already buy. Just stop doing that. People don’t wake up in the middle of the night thinking “I wish I had an e-book to teach me how to lose weight”. They think about losing weight, and a real world solution that makes them slim yesterday. They will buy pills much more easily than they will buy an e-book. And they will go to buy their Gym instructor’s recommendations even easier than that. They will buy anything that has direct and instant gratification of their needs of money, vanity and sex. So sell what’s selling all over the world. My litmus test: Is this a product or service that is already being offered at at least 4-5 businesses in ALL the top 1000 cities of the world? Like restaurants or spa’s or gym’s or dance classes… they can be found everywhere. They are the businesses people need everywhere. And they are the businesses that will make you max. money. Not some “underwater cat-juggling video series home study course with free PDF transcriptions”.
    I didn't read anywhere near all of this (sorry Lakshay) but this piece - which I caught while skimming - is TRUTH. If there was one thing I could say to anybody that's struggling to turn a real profit online, it would be this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    WOW! Awesome post mate!

    This is bang on! I have read books that do not give you this much information in 200 pages!

    Should be a sticky!

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  • Profile picture of the author jrpt
    Highly Disagree with selling a product you don't already have available...that's just irresponsible IMO. The rest is sounds advice said in long format
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Lakshay!

      Good to see you and was wondering were you went off to.

      Did you make it to Vegas?
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      • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        Lakshay!

        Good to see you and was wondering were you went off to.

        Did you make it to Vegas?
        Good to talk to you after a long time Jill... how's it going?

        I don't plan to settle in any one place anymore. The plan has changed, and I rarely if ever have time to spend just idly travelling. Of course we have fun wherever we are, but travelling solely for pleasure is no longer a part of my reality.

        Besides that, I never went off anywhere. Just I didn't have anything to say, so i was just listening.

        -Lakshay
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    • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
      Originally Posted by jrpt View Post

      Highly Disagree with selling a product you don't already have available...that's just irresponsible IMO. The rest is sounds advice said in long format
      Dry selling might even be illegal. But the point I'm trying to make is- don't wait. Just do it. You don't have to have the perfect product... test with whatever you have. Surely if you have nothing you can get re-brandable PLR.

      -Lakshay
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Lakshay, I have a confession to make. I remember you from these days:

        I started out a foolish little kid who was trying to pretend to be a Guru…
        and passed by this post when you first made it.

        It stuck around, and this morning I clicked on it. And seeing what that 'foolish little kid' turned into makes me happy.

        Thanks for posting...
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Awesome post Lakshay, it's been a while since we've seen you around the forum! Glad you could come in and drop an awesome nugget of information for us.

    -Sean

    PS.

    Caliban does live in a van down by the river, that's why he used that example.
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  • Profile picture of the author seanz614
    Great post! This is one I will refer back to time and time again.

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
    Hi Lakshay,

    Welcome back.

    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    ...I started out a foolish little kid who was trying to pretend to be a Guru… and smart people often saw right through me...
    I remember you from that period. Often I said to myself, if someone speaks so, then he still should to learn a few thing. I've to say, it is good to see the change that elapsed time resulted.

    I'd like to reinforce some of your points.

    One of them is planning, because it's importance is ignored by many. Yet - I'm convinced - planning is a basis of every successful business. Without a plan you can be distracted easily. Beeing distracted means you cannot focus on your necessary steps.

    I have heard from many people that to bother with planning isn't worthwhile, because he just wants to earn xxx dollars. And these people used to do indignation later, why they have no success in their endeavours.

    Bear in mind, if you fail to plan, then you plan to fail.

    The other one is falling. It is an integral part of entrepreneurship, therefore can't circumvented. Smart people know this and act accordingly. And... as you mentioned rightly, people are able to see your success only and they think that you get there easily and overnight.

    They don't see the sleepless nights and your fallings. They don't see your invested money and efforts. They don't know, how many times you fall in the past. They only see that you are standing and succed. Therefore they are looking for the pushbutton magic key. And don't like to hear the truth.

    Great message, I wish everyone would read it, who needs.

    Lakshay, wishing you many successes,

    Sandor
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  • Profile picture of the author Afreidman
    Thanks for the amazing post!

    Cheers glad to see you back on the WF
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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    Well said! Print book material, yes, but sure, this could make for good ebook, Kindle, WSO, etc. content, too, what the heck
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Amazing post Brother!

    Without question a post that shall remain "evergreen" for years to come!
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  • Profile picture of the author redrabbitt67
    Great stuff!! I'm printing this out to review every week. I think too often we get buried in the details and forget to step back and assess what we're really doing, where we're spending (or wasting) our time, and where we want to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bennette
    Excellent, Excellent, Excellent points Lakshay.
    Businesses don't know much about marketing and if they do want to tell you how to market them, that's a nightmare waiting to happen. Just say next!

    Experience does sell because if you're successful, you can tell businesses what you have done that has worked. And if you failed, you can tell your story about what didn't work and why.

    The sad thing about your post is, most newbies will read this and say yea but....and then go post another question on the forum and not take action!

    Great powerful and truthful post. I hope newbies take this FREE info and run with it!
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by da1fitz View Post

      Howdy

      I Really haven't dug deep enough to see any replies from this but stating that people are stupid because they don't follow instructions is really disrespectful - there are numerous reasons for people not seeming to follow instructions, some possibly being that what you have said is illegal in their country or just pain wrong....
      There's a difference between "not following the directions" and "choosing not to follow the instructions for valid reasons."

      If you choose not to follow a set of instructions because doing so might land you in trouble with the local law, or because you have personal objections, it's not stupid. And not what Caliban was talking about.

      If you choose to omit instructions because you're lazy, or you don't want to waste the time you could be spending socializing, and then complain because 'the instructions didn't work', you just might qualify for 'stupid'...
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  • Profile picture of the author ehawkmarketer
    Nice list, thanks!

    For me, its all about balancing risk versus outcome and cost.

    This is a form of risk management: you don't need to act under perfect conditions, but since you never have perfect information either, you will not have a predictable outcome. You need to assess what level of risk you are willing to take, over the cost of the opportunity, should your actions fail.

    Ideally (but never in reality):
    PC= PI + PO
    Reality:
    Optimal Risk= I/PO

    I=information
    O=Outcome
    PO=predictable outcome
    PC= Perfect conditions
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug Terry
    Excellent post...having come across your post by accident, it caught my interest and I began reading. Well, after the first paragraph I was thinking 'this is not the usual casual post' and how that proved to be so. Thought provoking and an excellent contribution to the WF; one that everyone should read.

    Well said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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    @ Doug, it beats the 200 threads with generic "be positive, make money, it's easy" threads.

    Lakshay, I saw some of your copywriting work a little while back - impressive man!

    You're a great writer... but even better, you get to the point and cut the sh** and be real about what you have to do in business and life.

    Like CDarklock eloquently put it, "Most people are stupid"

    They'll probably pass over this because you're not promising instant riches and wealth.... and not value it because it's "free". Their loss...

    Best, hope to hear from you more often.

    Ansar
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Excellent post. I have some personal problems with the last part about
      marketing stuff that isn't completed yet, but that's just me. I like to make
      sure that all my ducks are lined up before I put anything out there. And since
      I can usually create a product in a couple of days anyway, it's not a big deal
      to me to wait until everything is just right.

      But the rest of your advice, I fully agree with.

      Nice to have you back here. Glad to see that you've learned from your own
      mistakes.

      Guess what? You're going to continue to learn every single day you do this
      no matter how successful you become.

      Even semi retired I'm still learning things...mostly about myself. Lots I would
      change if I could go back and do it all over. But that's water under the
      bridge. Life doesn't have a rewind button. All you can do is move forward.

      Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        I briefly saw this post when it started but very foolishly didn't read it.

        I just saw Mr Wagenheim had posted and as someone I look up to here I quickly popped in to read his post. Seeing such a glowing comment from Steven is to me an immediate "what the hell were you thinking Rich, read the bl**dy post". So I did.

        So Lakshay may I commend you on a fantastic post that I think should be a sticky that all people new should read. Legendary post, I've copy and pasted it and added to my growing list of gold I pick up and learn here daily.

        Well done, welcome back and I wish you all the very best sir.
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      • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Excellent post. I have some personal problems with the last part about
        marketing stuff that isn't completed yet, but that's just me. I like to make
        sure that all my ducks are lined up before I put anything out there. And since
        I can usually create a product in a couple of days anyway, it's not a big deal
        to me to wait until everything is just right.

        But the rest of your advice, I fully agree with.

        Nice to have you back here. Glad to see that you've learned from your own
        mistakes.

        Guess what? You're going to continue to learn every single day you do this
        no matter how successful you become.

        Even semi retired I'm still learning things...mostly about myself. Lots I would
        change if I could go back and do it all over. But that's water under the
        bridge. Life doesn't have a rewind button. All you can do is move forward.

        Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends.
        Hey Steven...

        Thanks for the kind words.

        As far as creating the product is concerned... one can always JV with someone else (to promote their product) until their own product is ready.

        I think product creation is easy... And it can certainly be done quickly, like you have said...

        But here's how I see it..

        Why create something that might never sell?

        Neither I, nor you are the judge of a market. Only a statistically significant test tells. So do a test... see if it sells, and create a superior product afterwards.For the initial few sales, you always have affiliations, right?

        -Lakshay
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraElam
    [QUOTE=lakshaybehl;4262952]Hi Warriors…


    8. Sell experiences, not benefits. I am sure you are aware that you can charge higher if you sell a hope by promising a benefit, as compared to selling a commodity. But the top dollar is made when you sell an experience. In the guru business, the experience your customers crave is reassurance. And if there’s entertainment value to it too… you are great. Tony Robbins products are sold because he reassures them that there is hope. Fran Kern reassures you that you can be a lazy surfer and still make money. David deAngelo sells the reassurance to ugly, fat and usually not so affluent guys that they can be desirable to women too, and that they can get affection too. Notice how I said affection, not sex. These people know what experience their folks are craving. Madam Mayflower knew that her clients were looking for an escort that they could talk to, tell jokes to, and have a conversation with. Of course these escorts were a sure thing, but the clients could have bought sex for a lot cheaper in the NYC. They paid top dollar for an intelligent and charismatic girl who was affectionate, admiring and respectful of these gents. If Madam Mayflower (Sydney White) sold commodity, it would have been sex. If she sold benefit, it would have been pleasure. But she sold an experience, and that was admiration for some, affection for others and respect for the rest.



    This is where most of the people lack... Thanks for sharing such inspiring notes of your experience...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    8. Sell experiences, not benefits. I am sure you are aware that you can charge higher if you sell a hope by promising a benefit, as compared to selling a commodity. But the top dollar is made when you sell an experience...
    Excellent Thread. Thank you.

    This point above is something I haven't heard put quite like that but I've been doing all long. It was great to see it verbalised. I've been working off the "golden moments" theory but this is what's been happening, I've been selling an "experience"...good to know.

    Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Thank you for this info. Love getting insights from those that have been around for a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Lakshay, thank you for taking the time to write this wonderful post. It is FULL of truth and wisdom. This is a post every up-and-coming marketer should print out and read often.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debra Barrow
    What you've said is very sound advice. When you talked about selling experiences, that hit home. I had an offline business before coming online. We did sell "experiences". It was personal and custom made product (unique). The average price was $500 each, and most people bought it.

    I believe they made the purchase because it enriched their lives. The cost was secondary.
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    One of the best post ever
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  • Profile picture of the author Reed7
    Hey good read, you kind of took the fear out of the equation for IM. And certainly reinforced the "Just Do It" expression, good for you.. and thanks for your great inspiration to all, well done, very well done...!
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  • Profile picture of the author saoweb
    I love it! great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Frodr
    @lakshaybehl

    I enjoyed the post. It was an easy read and it made complete sense.

    Although, I suspect, that the ones who need this advice most will probably gloss right over this genuine knowledge. They might even read the post but they just won't get it. To them, it's like your speaking another language. One that they're too lazy to learn since all they want is quick cash.

    Instead they waste their hard earned day job money on foolproof systems.

    Some people are hellbent on learning the hard way. Therefore, the market gets what the market wants.

    Getting back to your honest post, I'd like to add emphasis on the point you made about incorporation. Not just a stupid LLC, but a real for-profit corporation.

    This is the difference between actually owning a business or just running a side hustle. You can't expect to be serious until you complete this step. It takes a bit of startup capital to do it right and it sets you apart from every other wannabe with a blog they call a "business".

    From what I have learned the smartest way to go about incorporating is to hire a startup lawyer. At the very minimum you should consult with one before you move forward. Most importantly, do your research and start to build a relationship with a good lawyer. This could save you a ton of both money and headaches in the future.

    I know, I tend to ramble, but if you're still with me..

    I just thought that the original point made by the op about incorporation was quite important. Since I know first hand how easy it is to get caught up in the wonderful world of the warrior forum. You tend to forget how much bigger the world really is, both online and offline. This leads me to wonder...

    ..If your business consists of milking the forum for money I'd question whether or not you run a business or a hustle.

    Use the forum for what I feel it really is, a mass network of support, to test ideas and crowdsource advice for your personal business. The moment this forum becomes your bread and butter is the moment you begin to take advantage of it's community.

    Just my personal opinion and you're entitled to yours. This is, a place of opinions, isn't it?

    I'm done now. Thanks for listening and thanks to the op for a minor dose of truth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
    Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

    David deAngelo sells the reassurance to ugly, fat and usually not so affluent guys that they can be desirable to women too, and that they can get affection too.
    *Looking at lakshaybehl's profile pic*... were you by any chance one of David deAngelo's customers?
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

      *Looking at lakshaybehl's profile pic*... were you by any chance one of David deAngelo's customers?
      You know, when somebody starts a good thread, why is it people feel the need to be insulting and rude? How does the OP's looks have ANYTHING to do with the great thread he started? Though I don't know the OP, I think his advice was excellent and those of you who are being so rude, just like the quote above really need to get a life!

      If you were joking Snow_Predator, the way it comes across is very rude. The OP didn't have to share anything with this forum. He wasn't forced to do so whatsoever. And yet he gave some great advice from experience. If we would listen more to successful people instead of bashing them, maybe we'd all reach a higher level of success!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMWinner
    Great thread you got there, it would be very helpful to the newbies (including myself) to really set a plan before anything else. It is very important to have a plan than trying to jump into the water that you are not completely aware of what could be under the surface. What I am trying to say is, test the water first before completely jumps into it. It is better to be ready that sorry.
    I would go totally with your 7th commandment, since people who are mostly newbies are recommended to do the niche that they are interested with, although that niche isn’t really earning. A person should know when to stop what he/she is doing if he/she will notice that it is just wasting his time and not earning since the niche is not that marketable.
    And the 12th commandment is the basis of our learning. Personally, failures are not there to discourage us or to put us into a position to quit our work. They are there to provide lessons to us, since sometimes, we need to hit the ground before we can realize that what we are doing is not right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
    Excellent post, my favourite three posts:

    1)
    Most businesses get it wrong. You get a 2% conversion rate on your website?
    I guess that is acceptable because you don’t have any personal time investment in it.
    But how about getting a 20% conversion rate? Is it possible? Yes. How? By having a
    laser targeted list of buyers who already purchased multiple similar products from
    you very recently. They are your best prospects. When looking for an offline consultancy client,
    look for those who are already advertising. Far too many consultants are broke because they
    tried educating their people the value in advertising… they failed in effective prospecting.

    When I tried selling websites door to door, I made the same mistake. I didn’t just spend my time
    on the people who would be interested in such a service… I was offering it to everyone.

    So create ads that attract only your prospects, and REPEL, or even OFFEND the people who are not your prospects.

    2)
    Sell experiences not benefits

    3)
    P.S. Almost forget: Act when you are not fully prepared I never wait for the perfect moment.
    I have never had the perfect sale, and I have made over 200 deals personally.
    Never had the perfect ideal scenario. NEVER. But I always acted.
    I mean not in the beginning. But now I act despite being not ready.
    And the idea has served me well. I record products with a sore throat.
    I launch marketing campaigns without products being completed.
    I talk to business owners even when I don't have anything to offer to them.
    All the logistical steps can, and should be handled later.
    But test your ideas as soon as you can, and if they are worthy ideas,
    get them rolling ASAP. Without worrying too much about the near future...
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  • Profile picture of the author weekendmarketer
    Thanks a lot lakshay for this wonderful post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoralexon
    I really like your list of commandments. Especially number two.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author hotwebwords
    This was an incredibly well thought out post, and I want to thank you for sharing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Nice little post. Two things I would add are, stop thinking about yourself. When you stop thinking about yourself and actually start helping others, the money just seems to come by itself.

    Don't be scared to fail because you will fail. You will fail all the time. What determines the best from the good is ones ability to respond to the said failure.

    Never give up. Giving up should never be an option.
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