Frustrated...clickbank

by brit16
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Ok, I am still a newbie, but have been getting 1 sale about every 30 clicks. This trend has been going on for a few months now, so it seems to be the norm for me. In the past two weeks I have had around 100 clicks to the affiliate product I am promoting and not one sale, order form impression, nothing! I have been working extra hard lately and have actually gotten more clicks than normal, so why no sales??? I am getting a little frustrated because I was to the point where my hard work seemed to be paying off. Any advice, thoughts? I am in the "getting pregnant" niche, so it does not seem like it would be seasonal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
    Maybe a lot of people have started to work out how to get pregnant without the use of an ebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michele Miller
      That does seem odd. Can you check your traffic stats in more detail?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michele Miller
      Too funny!

      Originally Posted by Chris Sorrell View Post

      Maybe a lot of people have started to work out how to get pregnant without the use of an ebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Chris Sorrell View Post

      Maybe a lot of people have started to work out how to get pregnant without the use of an ebook.
      How did they do it before the internet? We as a species are lucky to be here!

      To get serious though, where are you brining in traffic from? If its suddenly coming from a different source there is your answer. If not, the likely answer is that you just hit a dry spell. Averages don't equal a predictable outcome. Adrian Gonzalez has the best batting average in the majors...but is also bound to have 0-5 nights. It happens.
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    The source of your traffic makes a different. The "colder" (the less they know about you or the product) the harder it will be to make sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by brit16 View Post

    I have been working extra hard lately and have actually gotten more clicks than normal
    Are they from a different traffic-source?

    Has anything changed on the product's sales page (introduction of an opt-in/pop-up)?

    Those are my initial two questions ... but if your traffic has been converting at 3.3% and has dropped to nothing, over 100 clicks, that does appear to be statistically very significant, in spite of being a small-ish number.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Are they from a different traffic-source?

      Has anything changed on the product's sales page (introduction of an opt-in/pop-up)?

      Those are my initial two questions ... but if your traffic has been converting at 3.3% and has dropped to nothing, over 100 clicks, that does appear to be statistically very significant, in spite of being a small-ish number.
      It depends on how long he's been converting 1/30. If he got 10 sales from 300 clicks, but hasn't gotten anything for his last 100, this doesn't really tell us anything. It's definitely an anomaly, considering the data we have, but I think he should just sit back and see if it corrects itself; another 200-400 clicks should show a trend.

      That is, assuming his traffic and/or the sales page haven't changed.
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      • Profile picture of the author brit16
        Thanks everyone. I think I need to give y'all a few more details... my traffic sources are staying the same. I get around 100 views to my blog daily, with about 60 or so coming from google (organic) and about 40 or so coming from forums that are very specific to my niche. When I say I have been putting a lot of work in I mean that I have been leaving a lot of good responses on forums and have been sending a little extra traffic each day from them.

        I only promote one product, so that has not changed. I have only been doing IM for about 7 months now, the first couple months I only made a couple of sales. But I was still getting things figured out and learning. For the next four months, I have seen a sale almost right at every 30 clicks.

        Alexa, you bring up a good point. I am not sure if the vendor has done anything different. Did not think to check that.

        For the person who said people have figured out an easier way to get pregnant....it is not that simple. These are people suffering from infertility and I am also one of them. It took us 5 years and a lot of procedures to have our son, so I don't think they suddenly figured out a solution. And I hope you don't say something like this to any of them, they are all pretty sensitive to the issue!
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        • Profile picture of the author Michele Miller
          Originally Posted by brit16 View Post

          Thanks everyone. I think I need to give y'all a few more details... my traffic sources are staying the same. I get around 100 views to my blog daily, with about 60 or so coming from google (organic) and about 40 or so coming from forums that are very specific to my niche. When I say I have been putting a lot of work in I mean that I have been leaving a lot of good responses on forums and have been sending a little extra traffic each day from them.

          I only promote one product, so that has not changed. I have only been doing IM for about 7 months now, the first couple months I only made a couple of sales. But I was still getting things figured out and learning. For the next four months, I have seen a sale almost right at every 30 clicks.

          Alexa, you bring up a good point. I am not sure if the vendor has done anything different. Did not think to check that.

          For the person who said people have figured out an easier way to get pregnant....it is not that simple. These are people suffering from infertility and I am also one of them. It took us 5 years and a lot of procedures to have our son, so I don't think they suddenly figured out a solution. And I hope you don't say something like this to any of them, they are all pretty sensitive to the issue!
          I don't think he meant it mean.. you hadn't qualified for "infertile" couples. He was just joking.
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          • Profile picture of the author brit16
            Originally Posted by Michele Miller View Post

            I don't think he meant it mean.. you hadn't qualified for "infertile" couples. He was just joking.
            I figured he was, just educating him. Couldn't help it
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            • Profile picture of the author brit16
              Thanks everyone! I really like the suggestion of "cloning" my site and seeing what was giving me the most money for the time spent. The only problem is I think it is a bit over my head. I do use clickbank tracking codes, so I know what articles my clicks are coming from, but I don't know who is clicking them.

              As far as the "writing my own small product and adding the affiliate link", I am in the middle of doing that now.

              I think someone asked for more stats. I looked them up and in the past four months (that is as far as it would go back, but that is pretty much when I got started) I have had 674 clicks, 15 sales, and 0 refunds. This is including the 100 clicks I have had in the past two weeks that have yielded 0 sales. So... up to that point I had 570 clicks and 15 sales. I know this sounds like nothing to most of you, but to a complete newbie who had never even heard about IM, I am happy with the start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Doing more isn't always productive. There is a good chance you started fishing in a pond that isn't suitable to your niche.

    Make sure the keywords you are using are really the ones that produce the right traffic for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Svacina
    If you have also changed the product, not every product have the same conversion. Be aware of where you get your traffic from. That is the main key.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tigrs84
    I agree: not enough data to reliably show what percent should be converting
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  • Profile picture of the author Convergence
    Originally Posted by brit16 View Post

    Ok, I am still a newbie, but have been getting 1 sale about every 30 clicks. This trend has been going on for a few months now, so it seems to be the norm for me. In the past two weeks I have had around 100 clicks to the affiliate product I am promoting and not one sale, order form impression, nothing! I have been working extra hard lately and have actually gotten more clicks than normal, so why no sales??? I am getting a little frustrated because I was to the point where my hard work seemed to be paying off. Any advice, thoughts? I am in the "getting pregnant" niche, so it does not seem like it would be seasonal.
    I'm beginning to wonder also, I've been affiliate marketing for years, I average 3-4 sales per day through CB, but, ever since the 1st of July, my stats and sales have been pretty strange. 4 sales since the 1st, when I should have had 40-60 by now...

    I've noticed this on occasion with CB, I don't care what anybody says, I don't think that their tracking is working correctly 100% of the time. I've noticed far too many "dry spots" over the years and it appears that there is one going on right now...

    Hop count is still the same, but no sales...

    Just my thoughts...

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    • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
      Originally Posted by Convergence View Post

      I'm beginning to wonder also, I've been affiliate marketing for years, I average 3-4 sales per day through CB, but, ever since the 1st of July, my stats and sales have been pretty strange. 4 sales since the 1st, when I should have had 40-60 by now...

      I've noticed this on occasion with CB, I don't care what anybody says, I don't think that their tracking is working correctly 100% of the time. I've noticed far too many "dry spots" over the years and it appears that there is one going on right now...

      Hop count is still the same, but no sales...

      Just my thoughts...

      C
      I've seen similar things actually, although I'm not really sure what the cause is. July just tends to be slower overall, so many that has something to do with it. Your data is much more statistically significant than the OPs, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author rekerlolz
      Originally Posted by Convergence View Post

      I'm beginning to wonder also, I've been affiliate marketing for years, I average 3-4 sales per day through CB, but, ever since the 1st of July, my stats and sales have been pretty strange. 4 sales since the 1st, when I should have had 40-60 by now...

      I've noticed this on occasion with CB, I don't care what anybody says, I don't think that their tracking is working correctly 100% of the time. I've noticed far too many "dry spots" over the years and it appears that there is one going on right now...

      Hop count is still the same, but no sales...

      Just my thoughts...

      C
      May I ask which niche(s) you are making all those sales in? I haven't made any sales on Clickbank for a good while now. I think maybe my niche choice might have something to do with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author phowell23
    I agree about the dry spots but I tend to think it's seasonal. Maybe since it's warm outside everyone isn't sitting in front of their computer? That and the economy with 9.2% unemployment in the US could drive some potential buyers to "let's think about it" kind of decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by phowell23 View Post

      I agree about the dry spots but I tend to think it's seasonal. Maybe since it's warm outside everyone isn't sitting in front of their computer? That and the economy with 9.2% unemployment in the US could drive some potential buyers to "let's think about it" kind of decision.
      That is why it is growing ever more important to capture the traffic before the visitor is ever turned over to the product producer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Forum traffic is notorious for lots of looking and little buying. Try adding and ranking for different keywords .. organic increase will normally help you more for the fact they are coming from a search term and not a new thread or post.
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    • Profile picture of the author brit16
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      Forum traffic is notorious for lots of looking and little buying. Try adding and ranking for different keywords .. organic increase will normally help you more for the fact they are coming from a search term and not a new thread or post.
      Is there a way for me to tell which traffic is converting??? I asked this question before, but never got a real response. I know that the forum traffic visitors stay longer on my site than the organic traffic. I always assumed they were the ones buying. But I have been focusing a lot on getting my keywords ranked anyway, because that is where the majority of the traffic is coming from. Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author BinaryQwest
        Originally Posted by brit16 View Post

        Is there a way for me to tell which traffic is converting??? I asked this question before, but never got a real response. I know that the forum traffic visitors stay longer on my site than the organic traffic. I always assumed they were the ones buying. But I have been focusing a lot on getting my keywords ranked anyway, because that is where the majority of the traffic is coming from. Thanks.
        Utilize the clickbank tracking ids to figure out where the traffic is going. For instance, if the visitor is from search tag the clickbank id in the link by giving them a different tracking id link to go to the clickbank product. Else give them a different tracking id if they come from search. You may be able to do this in javascript or PHP code if the site is static html. If you don't want to mess with any code you can create 2 articles or whatever you're linking to. Link to one with the forum signature and do organic SEO for the other. They need to be different and not the same content however.
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  • Profile picture of the author jkuhry
    Make your own small product and get people to share your product but one of your click bank links on the bottom of your product, before you know it you will be getting more sales..
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  • Profile picture of the author Murlu
    Sometimes there just seems to be times when promotions seem to go dry. I had a week long stretch where I would still receive as many impressions but no sales but then everything jumped back up. You have to think that there are a lot of influences that will always take into effect (economy, personal troubles, etc). Sometimes the offer seems good but you may have just caught people at the wrong time.
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  • Profile picture of the author siteline
    Yeah I think affiliate marketing is a hot / cold kind of thing, everything ultimately revolves around the price of the offer and whats going on in the economy and or their personal lives at the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author rickfrazier1
    When feeding from several sources, like forum vs organic, I've used a number of techniques. One that comes to mind that takes a bit to set up, but can be quite helpful, is to essentially clone your site.

    Make a copy of everything on your site, from the home page down. Put it all in a directory named "f". Change your Forum posts to show the link yourdomain.com/f

    Now, every time someone comes to your site from organic traffic, you can see site traffic showing the regular path. Every hit you get in pages in the F folder came from the forums.

    To further refine it, if you are using clickbank, you can change the tag you use on your affiliate link. for the organic traffic, use something like youraff.hop.clickbank.com/?tid=org, and for forum use youraff.hop.clickbank.com/?tid=for. This way, you can see where the sales came from on your clickbank revenue report.

    If you are promoting a clickbank product, and use both, you can compare the number of clicks into your promo page and the number of sales to see which page is more effective (as a percentage). Given identical copy except for the link, you may find the forums are better, worse, or the same, but in doing so, you can determine if the extra effort of forum marketing is really helping you. I say to look at the percentage, because raw clicks may be less meaningful to you at first. However, don't fall into the trap of using ONLY the percentage...

    For example, if you get 1000 clicks into your organic page, 100 click through to the vendor sales page, and you make 30 sales, you have a 30% click to sales percentage and 3% sales from landings at your site for organic. (and 30 sales total).
    On the other hand you get 100 clicks from forums, 10 clicks through, and 6 sales, you would have a 60% click to sales percentage for forums and 6% sales from landings, but only 6 sales.

    Now, using percentage alone, forums are really helpful because they have twice the sales precentages! However, given the amount of time you spend on forum work, which one is paying more for your time expended? Knowing how much time you put into each will allow you to determine which is more effective for your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author That Guy
    I have the same thing happening with me too, except adsense. Last month I would be getting clicks everyday or two and the CPC would be around $1. Now I get clicks MUCH farther apart and I'm only getting cents for each click. It's frustrating but I think that working on it more and more will eventually get it back to where it was before; maybe even better.
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  • Profile picture of the author brit16
    Yesterday I finally got a sale, then another one today! Glad the two week funk is over now. Thanks everyone.
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