Question for people with over 10 websites...

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My question is on back linking. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.

If you have 10 different websites, all on different subjects, are you joining one or more forums/news groups for each of your websites? If not, what are you doing to get back links?

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author brunom
    Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

    My question is on back linking. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.

    If you have 10 different websites, all on different subjects, are you joining one or more forums/news groups for each of your websites? If not, what are you doing to get back links?

    Thanks!
    I don't know where you read that, but I don't believe serious marketers are doing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nickdamodda
      Originally Posted by brunom View Post

      I don't know where you read that, but I don't believe serious marketers are doing it.
      Are you joking? Why spend so much time on one site and have it make $600 a day rather than 20 sites making $100 a day? It's extremely profitable doing this is you can get it to $100 a day. I plan on owning around 200 sites that pull in that income within the next 5 years. Think about it
      200x100=$20,000 A DAY. 20kx365 is what? 7 and a half mill? Lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author TXdragonfly
        Originally Posted by nickdamodda View Post

        Are you joking? Why spend so much time on one site and have it make $600 a day rather than 20 sites making $100 a day? It's extremely profitable doing this is you can get it to $100 a day. I plan on owning around 200 sites that pull in that income within the next 5 years. Think about it
        200x100=$20,000 A DAY. 20kx365 is what? 7 and a half mill? Lol.
        Wow, Nick! Please share your thoughts! How are you planning on doing this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Svacina
    Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

    My question is on back linking. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.

    If you have 10 different websites, all on different subjects, are you joining one or more forums/news groups for each of your websites? If not, what are you doing to get back links?

    Thanks!
    Forum marketing is one of the easiest ways to get targeted traffic.All you have to do is participate in discussions,contribute in a positive manner and include a link to your site in your signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nuno
    Many forums have no-follow signature links so they won't work as backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      Originally Posted by brunom View Post

      I don't know where you read that, but I don't believe serious marketers are doing it.
      I do believe that some serious marketers do just that.

      Originally Posted by Nuno View Post

      Many forums have no-follow signature links so they won't work as backlinks.
      To make it look more natural to Google you need nofollow besides follow links.

      It isn't all about backlinks. By participating in forums you can build yourself up as an expert within the niche and that other forum members may click on the link in your signature and become your customers or sign up to your list.

      @OP I've got more than 10 sites in different niches and started out by joining several forums related to my first couple of niches but I didn't have time to keep up with the forum discussions once I was into more niches. I won't pay anybody to do it for me so realistically forum marketing isn't viable for me, but for those with less niches it's good..

      I've been getting backlinks mainly from article marketing (it ain't dead yet), some video marketing, social bookmarking, proper blog commenting and some nice people linking to my content.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

    My question is on back linking. I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.

    If you have 10 different websites, all on different subjects, are you joining one or more forums/news groups for each of your websites? If not, what are you doing to get back links?

    Thanks!
    This is not a helpful marketing and i don't believe is going anywhere.

    I would suggest get into JV or start pay PPC marketing if you really want to pull these websites up
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Johns
    half the search engines ignore no follow, so it doesn't really matter.

    Forum marketing is a great way of traffic providing you are willing to spend the time. it is best done for a niche you are passionate about. Trying to do it for every niche will consume vast amounts of time. I only do it on the special niches that I really have a love for rather than every niche I am in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

      I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.
      Absolutely - it's a very popular and very successful method of getting both relatively targeted traffic and context-relevant backlinks which are highly valuable (regardless of their "page ranks" and whether or not they're "no-follow").

      Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

      If you have 10 different websites, all on different subjects, are you joining one or more forums/news groups for each of your websites?
      Definitely - for all the niches in which I can (that isn't quite all of them, with my niches). And sticking to my niche pen-name for those forum memberships, just as I do with the articles I write in various niches. The link-juice from some of these can be worth many thousands of "article directory" backlinks, for example.

      Originally Posted by brunom View Post

      I don't believe serious marketers are doing it.
      Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

      Originally Posted by Nuno View Post

      Many forums have no-follow signature links so they won't work as backlinks.
      Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

      Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

      This is not a helpful marketing and i don't believe is going anywhere.
      Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

      Originally Posted by Jason Johns View Post

      half the search engines ignore no follow, so it doesn't really matter.
      I agree ... in fact, if anything I strongly suspect that (a) it's more than half, and (b) some of the ones which purport relatively to devalue their link-juice (such as Google) don't always do so at all.

      Originally Posted by Jason Johns View Post

      Forum marketing is a great way of traffic providing you are willing to spend the time. it is best done for a niche you are passionate about. Trying to do it for every niche will consume vast amounts of time.
      Yes; it's quite true, of course, that it can be pretty time-consuming. As you say, it's much more easily done when you have a real interest in the niche, partly because it's more pleasurable to do and partly because one can do more "targeting" that way, by making better-informed and more interesting comments.

      I do regard it as time very well spent, in link-juice terms, though. Even as a professional article marketer, myself, I'd far rather have one backlink in a relevant, active, regularly updated, well-attended forum than 1,000 non-context-relevant ones in article directories: for me there's just no comparison at all. For the last year or so, since working out that it doesn't make any difference to me, I've stopped even checking whether or not they're "no-follow".

      For me, Scott's post immediately above (as quite often) is just about all that was needed to answer this one. You don't have to do that much backlinking if you acquire strong, context-relevant backlinks and master your on-site SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author TXdragonfly
    Okay, then how do you get backlinks if you have over 10 sites you are marketing?
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    • Profile picture of the author scott g
      I have some sig links as you can see... They've been there forever! But I have 15 sites that all rank for what they're supposed to rank for... Go figure...

      Blog commenting, article submissions to DOZENS of directories (and yes I will submit the exact same article to different directories), Google group searches... Blog commenting is probably number one... Feeds and blog directories are kinda lame and worthless... So are profile links (aka link packets)... This is just my opinion of course...

      You don't have to do much backlinking if you build strong backlinks (ie. anchor text / dofollow (although I'm just as happy with nofollow)), properly research your keyword competition before choosing a keyword, and MASTER your On-Site SEO...

      Each subpage/subdirectory on ONE site can be optimized to easily rank for lots of low comp, long-tail keys...


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    • Profile picture of the author Forcefactor
      Hey Aspyer,

      Here is the thing about backlinking. You get backlinks to get a "vote" to your website. The more powerful a backlink is, the more effective and dramatic results you will get with that link. Think of it as getting a vote from the popluar kids in school.

      Google see's the link and says, "Hey, some popular kid likes this site so lets give it a little bit of a push in the rankings."

      But when it comes to low quality links (links with n/a pr), you aren't going to get as much of a push in the rankings. But the key with these low quality links is in numbers. You get enough of these links and google thinks, "A lot of people likes this site, so lets push it just a little bit higher."

      At the same time you don't want to go overboard and have 700,000+ low quality links pointing at your site 2 weeks after building it.

      Your goal should be at building links at a constant rate. You need a combination of high quality and low quality links pointing at your site. Not just high pr links. Why? Because it simply doesn't look natural.

      A new site with nothing but high pr links (popular kids) voting for it just isn't realistic and it isn't fooling google.

      And the amount of links to get? Well it depends. Take a look at what's ranking in the top 3 for the keyword you are going after and you'll have a rough idea of what is needed to hang with the big boys.

      Some keywords need only 80 links and competitive keywords require 500,000+ links. Because quite frankly, google isn't going to rank your site #1 for a keyword that has the potential to bring in $10k a month just by simply getting 1 powerful link. Variety is the key.

      Of course there are 200+ other ranking factors to consider, but as far as link count goes, just look at how many links your TOP competitors are getting and WHERE they are getting it from, then model after them.

      And you can get links from places like:

      1. Blog comments
      2. Profile links (from forums)
      3. Forum posts
      4. Article resource box links
      5. Image links
      6. Submitting RSS feeds
      7. Social bookmarking
      8. Home page links
      9. Press release links
      10. In video descriptions
      11. Twitter (tweets)
      12. Facebook blurbs
      13. etc.

      And those that are strictly building links through forum posts are more than likely doing it for direct traffic (visitors being sent to the hyperlink in their post).
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    I have 20+ websites, and only 2 or 3 link to each other because they are relevant and have good editorial merit.
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  • Profile picture of the author jekis4sv
    Originally Posted by Aspyer View Post

    I have been doing a lot of reading and it seems the most popular method is joining forums/news groups and putting a link to your website in your signature and then participating in discussions.

    This method will take tens of years to build link mass enough to promote site in a niche with high competition However it may work for small sites in not too aggressive niches
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  • Profile picture of the author TXdragonfly
    Thank you Alexa Smith, I am a Smith myself.

    I have a couple of blogs that are monitized with adsense, clickbank and amazon, just trying to figure out how to rank them higher and to get more traffic/clicks. The domain names are keyword rich themselves and one of my blogs shows up on page one of google when you type in the keywords in it's domain name. (And according to google, those set of keywords had 18,000 searches in May).

    Any ideas would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author TXdragonfly
    Forcefactor, Thanks for the info. I've been on the net for a while now...since it began, I believe. I know money can be made on it, just haven't seen much myself. Like I said, I know how to locate good domain names, I just don't know how to get more viewers. Some organic traffic is starting to come in, but how do I get the "popular kids" to vote for my site, so to speak?

    "Of course there are 200+ other ranking factors to consider, but as far as link count goes, just look at how many links your TOP competitors are getting and WHERE they are getting it from, then model after them." Good info too here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Forcefactor
      Well, getting the "popluar kids" votes means getting links from high pr PAGES and links directly on the HOMEPAGE of high pr domains. The easiest way I know is by doing some good 'ol manual blog commenting.

      Here are a couple high pr links to help you get you started:

      hxxp://labs.aljazeera.net/warongaza/reports/view/496 (pr5)
      hxxp://piwik.org/blog/2009/05/100000-downloads-milestone/ (pr6)
      hxxp://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2010/06/europes-fate-depends-on.html (pr4)
      hxxp://www.seaofleaves.net/2010/03/29/square-pigs (pr3)

      ...Change the hxxp to http

      If would like homepage links, you can start building some authority with some of the domains you have and by the next pr update you should have acquired a decent pr by then.

      Or if you have a pretty good budget you can also acquire home page links from those that are offering it.
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  • Profile picture of the author atrbiz
    I manage over 50 sites (my own sites and clients sites) and I have a team of 10 VA's that do link building and other SEO tasks. I'm in the process of hiring more link builders. They do manual link building (blog commenting,etc) and use some SEO software too.

    It all depends on your budget,etc.
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    • Guys like you make me crazy. You're looking for a formula.

      There is no formula.

      Learn how to be a good net citizen and contribute to the discussion. Unexpected rewards will come your way. Create a single valuable property and be respected. Then create another, using what you learned from the first.

      Or set up thousands of blogs with little-to-no worthwhile content and "rule" as a "blog emperor."

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      • Profile picture of the author TXdragonfly
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        Guys like you make me crazy. You're looking for a formula.

        There is no formula.

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        Thanks for that info but I'm not looking for a formula...just advice. I'm new and just wanted a place to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author slim182
    Putting into your signature is always good, of course make sure it is related to the forum
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    Forum marketing can work well if you spend A LOT of time involved in these forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    backlinking is done best if you outsource this and show them videos on how you want this done. We been doing this for years, and it works very very well.

    You want to spend time ON your business and NOT IN your business. So outsourcing to the right people will help you do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Some website owners have devised methods to get their own back linking from subsidiary websites created by them. They have built other websites and back linked them to the primary website which also has links to those websites.
    This is known as a link wheel. The link wheel can be as large as you can make it but do bear in mind its takes time and there needs to be synergy between the various sites.

    And all visitors which like your site can easily become loyal ones, if they like content on your site.

    And then It’s the best to promote your site anywhere and anytime you can. If you want to spend some money, you should do it. Simply because you can get same visitors from online and offline source.
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