Question for people with over 10 websites...

Are you joking? Why spend so much time on one site and have it make $600 a day rather than 20 sites making $100 a day? It's extremely profitable doing this is you can get it to $100 a day. I plan on owning around 200 sites that pull in that income within the next 5 years. Think about it
200x100=$20,000 A DAY. 20kx365 is what? 7 and a half mill? Lol.

I do believe that some serious marketers do just that.

To make it look more natural to Google you need nofollow besides follow links.

It isn't all about backlinks. By participating in forums you can build yourself up as an expert within the niche and that other forum members may click on the link in your signature and become your customers or sign up to your list.

@OP I've got more than 10 sites in different niches and started out by joining several forums related to my first couple of niches but I didn't have time to keep up with the forum discussions once I was into more niches. I won't pay anybody to do it for me so realistically forum marketing isn't viable for me, but for those with less niches it's good..

I've been getting backlinks mainly from article marketing (it ain't dead yet), some video marketing, social bookmarking, proper blog commenting and some nice people linking to my content.

Absolutely - it's a very popular and very successful method of getting both relatively targeted traffic and context-relevant backlinks which are highly valuable (regardless of their "page ranks" and whether or not they're "no-follow").

Definitely - for all the niches in which I can (that isn't quite all of them, with my niches). And sticking to my niche pen-name for those forum memberships, just as I do with the articles I write in various niches. The link-juice from some of these can be worth many thousands of "article directory" backlinks, for example.

Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

Always interesting to see the customary wide range of Warrior opinion on such subjects.

I agree ... in fact, if anything I strongly suspect that (a) it's more than half, and (b) some of the ones which purport relatively to devalue their link-juice (such as Google) don't always do so at all.

Yes; it's quite true, of course, that it can be pretty time-consuming. As you say, it's much more easily done when you have a real interest in the niche, partly because it's more pleasurable to do and partly because one can do more "targeting" that way, by making better-informed and more interesting comments.

I do regard it as time very well spent, in link-juice terms, though. Even as a professional article marketer, myself, I'd far rather have one backlink in a relevant, active, regularly updated, well-attended forum than 1,000 non-context-relevant ones in article directories: for me there's just no comparison at all. For the last year or so, since working out that it doesn't make any difference to me, I've stopped even checking whether or not they're "no-follow".

For me, Scott's post immediately above (as quite often) is just about all that was needed to answer this one. You don't have to do that much backlinking if you acquire strong, context-relevant backlinks and master your on-site SEO.

I have some sig links as you can see... They've been there forever! But I have 15 sites that all rank for what they're supposed to rank for... Go figure...

Blog commenting, article submissions to DOZENS of directories (and yes I will submit the exact same article to different directories), Google group searches... Blog commenting is probably number one... Feeds and blog directories are kinda lame and worthless... So are profile links (aka link packets)... This is just my opinion of course...

You don't have to do much backlinking if you build strong backlinks (ie. anchor text / dofollow (although I'm just as happy with nofollow)), properly research your keyword competition before choosing a keyword, and MASTER your On-Site SEO...

Each subpage/subdirectory on ONE site can be optimized to easily rank for lots of low comp, long-tail keys...


CHEERS!

Hey Aspyer,

Here is the thing about backlinking. You get backlinks to get a "vote" to your website. The more powerful a backlink is, the more effective and dramatic results you will get with that link. Think of it as getting a vote from the popluar kids in school.

Google see's the link and says, "Hey, some popular kid likes this site so lets give it a little bit of a push in the rankings."

But when it comes to low quality links (links with n/a pr), you aren't going to get as much of a push in the rankings. But the key with these low quality links is in numbers. You get enough of these links and google thinks, "A lot of people likes this site, so lets push it just a little bit higher."

At the same time you don't want to go overboard and have 700,000+ low quality links pointing at your site 2 weeks after building it.

Your goal should be at building links at a constant rate. You need a combination of high quality and low quality links pointing at your site. Not just high pr links. Why? Because it simply doesn't look natural.

A new site with nothing but high pr links (popular kids) voting for it just isn't realistic and it isn't fooling google.

And the amount of links to get? Well it depends. Take a look at what's ranking in the top 3 for the keyword you are going after and you'll have a rough idea of what is needed to hang with the big boys.

Some keywords need only 80 links and competitive keywords require 500,000+ links. Because quite frankly, google isn't going to rank your site #1 for a keyword that has the potential to bring in $10k a month just by simply getting 1 powerful link. Variety is the key.

Of course there are 200+ other ranking factors to consider, but as far as link count goes, just look at how many links your TOP competitors are getting and WHERE they are getting it from, then model after them.

And you can get links from places like:

1. Blog comments
2. Profile links (from forums)
3. Forum posts
4. Article resource box links
5. Image links
6. Submitting RSS feeds
7. Social bookmarking
8. Home page links
9. Press release links
10. In video descriptions
11. Twitter (tweets)
12. Facebook blurbs
13. etc.

And those that are strictly building links through forum posts are more than likely doing it for direct traffic (visitors being sent to the hyperlink in their post).

Well, getting the "popluar kids" votes means getting links from high pr PAGES and links directly on the HOMEPAGE of high pr domains. The easiest way I know is by doing some good 'ol manual blog commenting.

Here are a couple high pr links to help you get you started:

hxxp://labs.aljazeera.net/warongaza/reports/view/496 (pr5)
hxxp://piwik.org/blog/2009/05/100000-downloads-milestone/ (pr6)
hxxp://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2010/06/europes-fate-depends-on.html (pr4)
hxxp://www.seaofleaves.net/2010/03/29/square-pigs (pr3)

...Change the hxxp to http

If would like homepage links, you can start building some authority with some of the domains you have and by the next pr update you should have acquired a decent pr by then.

Or if you have a pretty good budget you can also acquire home page links from those that are offering it.

Guys like you make me crazy. You're looking for a formula.

There is no formula.

Learn how to be a good net citizen and contribute to the discussion. Unexpected rewards will come your way. Create a single valuable property and be respected. Then create another, using what you learned from the first.

Or set up thousands of blogs with little-to-no worthwhile content and "rule" as a "blog emperor."

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