Online Marketing: be warned!!!

Of course the worker needs to be fired. He invaded your privacy, and did something bad enough under your husband's name that he got a five day ban from this forum. That is blatant disrespect for his employer and if you tolerate it now, you will tolerate it forever.

This is unacceptable from an employee. This person can not be trusted, and therefore should be given walking papers. Personally, I would tell this person, don't let the door hit you in the a...

What could be the best way to tell him he's fired? He's the son of our family friend.

Mers

You have to first establish whether or not he did it knowingly/intentionally. You said you trained him. It may have been done quite innocently/accidentally.

In any case, a 5 day ban will soon pass.

Will

It is hard lesson to learn, if you employ someone set up accounts for them to use, of course have them link back to your accounts but on no account let them impersonate you, its asking for trouble.
I hired a PA last year who did excellent work for me, I provided her with her own PC so my personal data could not be accessed.
I am planning to hire more people but nobody gets access to my main machine.

You need at the least to fine the person if not fire them

IMO, this is not a big deal. Even an expert can also get ban on forums for doing the things he don't know about. You shouldn't fire him. Instead you should find why your account was banned and then tell him not to use the account again. That's it!

He should be fired since the time that you discovered that he had used your husband's account. An employee that we can't trust doesn't deserve to work with us. Which means, in my suggestion, fire that employee and make sure that he should return all the accounts that he has used because probably there are instances that he might used your husband's account again by logging in from a different computer? You can still look for another employee that is worth your trust and time. You just inform your husband that if don't want to fire his employee, he might use your husband's other accounts and the worst to that, might even use your credit card to purchase products and services in the internet. You two just be careful of hiring employees especially working for an online marketing, as there are computer experts or hackers that can and have the ability to infiltrate the account of other people and would drain their money from there.

Hiring family and closely related persons to family has always posed a problem for me, so I try to avoid it as not to destroy any personal relationships (as has happened in the past.)

Keywords: "Your services are no longer required"

Dependent upon the severity of the act (which I am guessing is spam) - I personally would not risk my Warrior account for anything!

To me, it's far too valuable a resource to lose. In that regard, I was upset over getting a 1 point infraction for a signature link that I posted, unaware I had violated a WF rule. (*Which was immediately corrected, and all was well)

With that said, if it was accidental? -then 1st determine if your husband made him aware what was permissible, from that which is not?

Most lessons in my experience that were learned the hard way and involved humility have proven to be of great benefit. However, had he hacked into your PayPal account, stolen money, or cost the business financially (and did so knowingly) -I'd say; "Fire Him Quick!"

If not, then lay down the ground rules, be sure your employee's understand them, and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

Oh, and as stated above NEVER give someone access to your personal accounts, be it here or elsewhere. I suggest setting him up a guest account in the least.

You've obviously put a lot of work into training your employer and if he has been a good worker up to now I'd give him a second chance with a serious warning that if he messes with your business again he is fired.

Okay, you trained the guy to do forum marketing, so I assume he really isn't knowledgeable enough to purposefully do something malicious.

Then, your husband lets him use his laptop.... for what? To do what you trained him to do... yes/no?

If he did come to the Warrior Forum to engage in forum marketing on your behalf, then why will you want to fire him? Your husbands laptop probably had a WF cookie stored on it so when the guy got to the forum he was logged in automatically.

Too many grey areas exist for anyone to say fire the guy's a$$.

Establish his true intentions/motives before doing anything hasty and falsely accusing him!

I think a conversation is important to figure out what happened and why. In any case, I don't think your husband will remember to constantly log out of this and other forums so if he decides to keep him as an employee, it really is best that he use an inexpensive laptop to avoid any future problems. Was part of his job posting on forums? If not, then it needs to be explained to only perform tasks assigned to him. Keeping on someone for sentimental reasons is not a good idea and can lead to tension between both families, but if this was an innocent error and he is trustworthy then he needs separate accounts set up for himself and a separate computer to work on .

Debbie

Sounds like the guy wasn't properly trained and the fault lies elsewhere. Sorry.

Look, don't forget that this can be a "geo" problem (sorry, can't remember the correct wording). Thing is, in some countries THAT attitude is not so problematic as in UK/USA or Portugal. Perhaps the guy never saw a laptop in his hands! Perhaps he got all crazy cause ha was doing "his boss" work! Who knows!!

Please take this in consideration next time your hammer someone with "fire him" for being naive...

Sounds to me like he needs firing, he cant be allowed to get away with that!

It sounds as if the folks who are saying, "Fire him" have never had employees. Employees are human, and humans do make mistakes.

Part of being an employer is taking responsibility for explaining the rules and setting boundaries. Of course, never accept theft, and never accept an employee being nasty to customers.

Was the employee told to stay away from the warriorforum? Did the employee know the rules here at the WF? Your employee sounds young. Is this his first job?

Hiring friends and family can be a challange. If you ever do need to fire him, his parents might be upset with you, then again they might not. I depends on why you fire their youngster.

A dozen or more years ago I hired the "new" wife of a long-time friend of mine. She had a propensity to become irritated with customers and then be nasty to them. I had to fire her. The friend has not talked to me since. It happens.

So, explain what the rules are for employees, and give the youngster another chance.

:-Don

Working with a family member or a close friend can be hard some times,what i would do is just sit down and have a chat and lets see it in a few weeks time
Anna

No this is not a major issue where you need to fire him i think.SEO is an activity where you require people who are trained. If he is doing the great job then let him continue and from next time be aware!!

This "mistake" was the fault of the person that hired the employee.

So one forum is as good as another to a paid poster. I see you found that out.

What I am wondering is what was this guy posting to get your husband banned? If he was using your computer it won't have been the IP etc. that got the account banned. It would have been the posts themselves.

So - were those posts consistent with what you taught this person to do in a forum? If so, have you taught him to leave good solid and informative posts or did you just show him drive-by hit and run posting to get your links out?

Next - why did you not create special accounts for this person? Did you expect a newbie to use their own accounts and risk banning that would later effect his own ability to work online?

Next - you need bottled fortitude to talk to this person? Why? I can't imagine an employer's first reaction not being to want to know WTF just happened. Were the WF posts deleted? You don't want to know what he posted? If you found out would it maybe allow you to see where your training was at fault just as readily as you may find a bit of dishonesty in the employee? The fact that nobody seems to be able to talk to this person - whether they are to be fired or retrained - tells me this person may want to look for another employer.

It sounds to me that all this guy is guilty of, presuming he is actually new to the net, is trying to do his job. It sounds to me, presuming that the guy already gets around the net okay and the training was only job related, that he was smart enough not to use his own accounts for activities he knew could get him banned and he wasn't willing to risk it.

Afraid there's more to this story than you are telling us.

Or what you can do is make that guy realize that this is not the way the things are going to work. Next time he does it, he will be fired!!

If you're not comfortable firing him and think the mistake was lack of training then:

Explain specifically what he did wrong and why it can't happen again.

Be very clear on what he's suppose to do and what he's not suppose to do. Spend more time with clear training.

Put him on a one month "probation" and if there's another issue then let him go. The first time it might have been merely a mistake. But if another problem occurs when you know you've been very clear in your directions then this isn't someone you want working with you. (even if it's a friend)

yes he needs to be fired, such an act cant be tolerated.

does he recognize his mistake? were the rules clear enough before starting the work?
Everybody can make a mistake. State again what you want to be done, and not done, and if this happens again, fire him... for me, it's as simple as that..

If you fire him, you will have to find someone to replace him - it takes time, far better to tell him where he went wrong and make sure he does not do it a again - it's not as if he was stealing from you

Two question must be answered

1) What did he do
2)Why did he do it

Answer to these two questions will reveal his true "intention"

If his "intention" is bad, he should be fired
If his "intention" is not bad(probably ignorance ), then it is better to give him a chance

While training, teach him what to do and what not to do with your laptop and forum accounts.

Note the "We trained"

Let's say this was a offline shop. The job of the worker was pack stock in the shop etc. The owner of the shop then forgot his keys in the cash register and walked out to do something. On returning you find the worker dipped his fingers into the cash register and help himself.

Trust is broken, let us see what Trump has to say

If y9ou cannot trust him then he should not be working for you!!!