Google+ stabbing facebook....

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.....really hard this time, 10 million users in less than 21 days !!! facebook has got some serious thinking to do now!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Cohen
    That's a huge number. Gotta figure out how to get that traffic to my site.
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    It was predictable. Time to take it to our advantage!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    this is a huge raise but facebook is still at the top no?
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I think Google+ is well above 10 million at this point. That was a few days ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author rekerlolz
    Sorry for the lame question ..I am a noob at social marketing and what not ... but ....

    how would you go about transferring traffic from Google + to your websites?
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Well +1ing your website and getting your friends to will make it rank higher in the SERPs for people in your "network." You can also just drive people to your website via your profile or status updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Good - let them both become competitive enough that the only way they see to beat the competition is to stop all the privacy breaches and other BS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Originally Posted by RealExpert View Post

    .....really hard this time, 10 million users in less than 21 days !!! facebook has got some serious thinking to do now!!!
    Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

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      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

      Chris
      If they can continue at a rate like this then zuckerberg will have something shake about
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      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

      Chris
      It will be an exciting contest in coming days.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

      Chris
      If they continue at this rate, they can capture a significant portion of the market share in just a couple months. If they can grab 10% in half a year, Facebook is going to have some serious problems.

      I think Google+'s hangout feature is what's going to really define it. It's a very powerful utility. With some refining, I think it'll be better than Skype premium if it's not already.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Steve
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

      Chris
      Exactly my thoughts..lol..+ is nowhere near FB, not even close.
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    • Profile picture of the author PVSInternational
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

      Chris
      Yeah, Still Face book # 1 well agree; since it's 2004 however G+ only some days?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zesh
    Interface of Google+ sucks in contrast to Facebook.

    Facebook is still the bigger brand and its positioning in the market will always be one step ahead of Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by Zesh View Post

      Interface of Google+ sucks in contrast to Facebook.

      Facebook is still the bigger brand and its positioning in the market will always be one step ahead of Google.
      That's what a lot of "experts" said about Yahoo!

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      • Profile picture of the author azmanar
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        That's what a lot of "experts" said about Yahoo!

        RoD
        Hi,

        If G+ bring about Smart Pages not unlike FB Fan Pages, then I predict a gold rush in G Valley.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Originally Posted by azmanar View Post

          Hi,

          If G+ bring about Smart Pages not unlike FB Fan Pages, then I predict a gold rush in G Valley.
          Anything is possible. But at the moment, these are all "if"s. Only time will tell. It's an interesting show to watch nonetheless.

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          • Profile picture of the author JR Consulting
            It's not just about Google+ versus Facebook.

            Google+ is the social backbone - O'Reilly Radar

            Much attention has focused on Google+ as a Facebook competitor, but to view the system solely within that context is short-sighted. The consequences of the launch of Google+ are wider-reaching, more exciting and undoubtedly more controversial.

            Google+ is the rapidly growing seed of a web-wide social backbone, and the catalyst for the ultimate uniting of the social graph. All it will take on Google's part is a step of openness to bring about such a commoditization of the social layer. This would not only be egalitarian, but would also be the most effective competitive measure against Facebook.

            As web search connects people to documents across the web, the social backbone connects people to each other directly, across the full span of web-wide activity. (For the avoidance of doubt, I take "web" to include networked phone and tablet applications, even if the web use is invisible to the user.)

            Search removed the need to remember domain names and URLs. It's a superior way to locate content. The social backbone will relieve our need to manage email addresses and save us laborious "friending" and permission-granting activity -- in addition to providing other common services such as notification and sharing.

            Though Google+ is the work of one company, there are good reasons to herald it as the start of a commodity social layer for the Internet. Google decided to make Google+ be part of the web and not a walled garden. There is good reason to think that represents an inclination to openness and interoperation, as I explain below.
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            • Profile picture of the author tecHead
              Originally Posted by Jeffrey Reidy View Post

              It's not just about Google+ versus Facebook.

              Google+ is the social backbone - O'Reilly Radar
              I'd have to agree that that would be the most logical progression; IF they (Google) go this route it would definitely change the neTWork more significantly than ever before.

              Yet, it wouldn't phase out Facebook, either (IMHO).

              One of the biggest complaints I've ever seen about Facebook is its lack of ability to differentiate business from pleasure. G+ seems to be focusing on that aspect with their Business Edition of G+.

              I think that will be the differentiation everybody's been looking for; both in strong existence serving separate legitimate sides of the available market-share respectfully.

              just my 2¢
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              • Profile picture of the author azmanar
                Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

                I'd have to agree that that would be the most logical progression; IF they (Google) go this route it would definitely change the neTWork more significantly than ever before.

                Yet, it wouldn't phase out Facebook, either (IMHO).

                One of the biggest complaints I've ever seen about Facebook is its lack of ability to differentiate business from pleasure. G+ seems to be focusing on that aspect with their Business Edition of G+.

                I think that will be the differentiation everybody's been looking for; both in strong existence serving separate legitimate sides of the available market-share respectfully.

                just my 2¢
                Talking about competition, I think LinkedIn will be affected.

                Then again, LinkedIn has other hugely popular features such as Forums.
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          • Profile picture of the author azmanar
            Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

            Anything is possible. But at the moment, these are all "if"s. Only time will tell. It's an interesting show to watch nonetheless.

            RoD
            Hi,

            Rather than "wait and see", I plunged in yesterday for a first-hand experience.

            Have 100 warriors in my G+ Circle already.

            Will give feedbacks in WF from time to time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        That's what a lot of "experts" said about Yahoo!

        RoD
        Yahoo had the chance to buy the pagerank technology back in the day, that was their downfall and what will be the downfall of facebook is that it still relies a huge amount on the search engines even though it could possibly stand alone for a while...If Google decides one day to give preference to its own + buttons and ignore those of FB on other sites then it will supersede them.

        The reason why everyone likes facebook right now is because you cannot get away from the facebook login on every site, all it will take is Google to simply cut those sites down if they do not give their button a higher position, and don't think they wont

        Google controls the vast majority of the internet, FB only controls a small portion when you really look at it and they simply cannot compete, they are not a search engine.

        The same thing is happening with Amazon in California, 10 years ago and even now you know of the company and love them, but as soon as they cut out more and more affiliates they WILL lose market share and once they cut everyone out then they will go bankrupt. They are not too large that they do not need affiliates selling for them.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

          The reason why everyone likes facebook right now is because you cannot get away from the facebook login on every site, all it will take is Google to simply cut those sites down if they do not give their button a higher position, and don't think they wont

          Google controls the vast majority of the internet, FB only controls a small portion when you really look at it and they simply cannot compete, they are not a search engine.

          The same thing is happening with Amazon in California, 10 years ago and even now you know of the company and love them, but as soon as they cut out more and more affiliates they WILL lose market share and once they cut everyone out then they will go bankrupt. They are not too large that they do not need affiliates selling for them.
          Ha ha ... Amazon doesn't need affiliates ... it makes up only a small portion of their sales. I never buy from an Amazon affiliate. Why? Because I go directly to Amazon to shop. Who needs the middle man with their tainted "reviews"?

          Google has a long way to go to even get close to becoming the social network that Facebook is. Right now it's a rather boring Facebook clone ... oh, with little circles.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            Ha ha ... Amazon doesn't need affiliates ... it makes up only a small portion of their sales. I never buy from an Amazon affiliate. Why? Because I go directly to Amazon to shop. Who needs the middle man with their tainted "reviews"?

            Google has a long way to go to even get close to becoming the social network that Facebook is. Right now it's a rather boring Facebook clone ... oh, with little circles.
            My point is though that Amazon is starting to bite the hands that made it what it is today, and yes it will probably still be a powerhouse but without all those links pointing to it from so many different sources it will start to slip when another comes along that does a better deal for the people who advertise for it. But this was never about Amazon lol

            Facebook, if we are being brutally honest is nothing but a souped up bulletin board from the late 1980's (if anyone remembers them) and the only thing it really has going for it is the ability to see whether your family and friends are online, once people get bored of having people watch exactly what they are doing every minute of the day they will drop out of favour.

            The advantage Google has is that it controls the way people find things on the internet and it guards that way so jealously, until someone figures out a way to do it better without pagerank it will have that position...but as soon as someone comes along with a more efficient algorythm that actually gives people exactly what they want without guessing then everyone will dump Google.

            No company is so powerful that they cannot be taken down, and without traffic they cannot survive.

            I am sure people are finding it hard over the last five years to do marketing and get a nice chunk of traffic, this is not whining but simply observing that FB is a huge traffic suck, just as radio was for theatre, television was for radio and so on...isn't evolution grand?
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

              My point is though that Amazon is starting to bite the hands that made it what it is today, and yes it will probably still be a powerhouse but without all those links pointing to it from so many different sources it will start to slip when another comes along that does a better deal for the people who advertise for it. But this was never about Amazon lol
              I think I'd do the same thing if Walmart and other large offline stores were driving the legislation to collect taxes from them also. I don't think it's Amazon biting the hand that feeds it as much as the politicians who are in the pocket of the major chains like Walmart.

              Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

              Facebook, if we are being brutally honest is nothing but a souped up bulletin board from the late 1980's (if anyone remembers them) and the only thing it really has going for it is the ability to see whether your family and friends are online, once people get bored of having people watch exactly what they are doing every minute of the day they will drop out of favour.

              No company is so powerful that they cannot be taken down, and without traffic they cannot survive.
              Google Plus is just like Facebook ... except without most people's real life family and real life friends. My Friends and Family circles are empty because they are on Facebook and could care less about Google Plus, in fact, they haven't even heard of it yet.

              I have seen nothing on GPlus that dazzles me. It looks exactly like Facebook, only after using it for a couple of days, it has already become boring to me because I'd rather have conversations with family and friends.
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              • Profile picture of the author THK
                Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post


                I have seen nothing on GPlus that dazzles me.
                Exactly what I am thinking. There is nothing significantly different than Facebook and there is no feature that we haven't seen before. Maybe the privacy settings on G+ is a bit easier to find, but nothing that is difficult to imitate. If Facebook fails to make the adjustments, probably they don't deserve to be #1 in social media.

                The only thing I see in favor of G is the leverage. They can make the users (of the search engine, youtube etc.) join G+ even if they don't want to. If that happens, it would be interesting to see whether people start using their social platform or stick to the old ones.

                I could very well be wrong though. I am no expert. Maybe it will be a "love at first sight" scenario once G+ goes live. Only time will tell.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Zesh View Post

      Interface of Google+ sucks in contrast to Facebook.

      Facebook is still the bigger brand and its positioning in the market will always be one step ahead of Google.
      Gee .... I thought it was almost an exact replica, like some Google engineer bought a Facebook clone script and added circles and some stuff to it.

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    It is my contention that as a global society, (through such progressions via the Internet) we will become far less competitive and much more collaborative; as more and more people question our egotistical stance of singularity in this Universe.

    Not to mention that if we don't we'll more than likely collapse upon ourselves; suffocating the life right out of our lungs.

    Evidence is showing in the proliferation of the idea of open-ness. Google is one of the pioneers of this movement and has proven to be extremely lucrative for them. Case in point, the Android OS.
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      Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

      Evidence is showing in the proliferation of the idea of open-ness. Google is one of the pioneers of this movement and has proven to be extremely lucrative for them. Case in point, the Android OS.
      Closed systems work too. Case in point: iOS
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      • Profile picture of the author tecHead
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Closed systems work too. Case in point: iOS
        Of course they have been; there's more than enough proof prior to the iOS. Which really isn't "closed" because its core seems to be based on Unix.

        Yet, the Internet started out as an open collaborative system, (Unix), and seems to be the natural progression.... java, php, perl, javascript, jquery, python, .Net.. etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
    It's interesting that all the things I hear and read about Google+ are coming from the sites and forums that are heavily promoting technology, computers, social media, internet in general, and online business etc. You get the idea. Do average people talk about it yet?
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      Originally Posted by Onora Oz View Post

      It's interesting that all the things I hear and read about Google+ are coming from the sites and forums that are heavily promoting technology, computers, social media, internet in general, and online business etc. You get the idea. Do average people talk about it yet?
      Not that I've seen. My actual friends and family never even heard of it and they are on Facebook. They have no interest in moving, particularly my family because all of their real friends ... people they knew in school, are on Facebook and they're not moving.

      One of these techy people left a post on my Google Plus account ... "now if I could just talk all my friends on Facebook into moving."
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        One of these techy people left a post on my Google Plus account ... "now if I could just talk all my friends on Facebook into moving."
        I tried and failed
        That's probably why G+ makes me feel like I'm browsing through LinkedIn rather than Facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author RemyMartin
    Google has branded themselves so well that whenever they release something people jump on it as if it was the next best thing.

    I have no interest in it whatsoever and haven't even checked it out and never will unless you can run ads on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    I'm not really into Google+ at all. I have no interest in going over there.

    I've got lots of real friends on Facebook and it's unlikely they'll all be moving over. Google will of course aggressively market this until everyone tries it once then goes back to Facebook though.

    Best of luck to them.
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  • Yes, very excited to be a part of Google+, I am enjoying it. I can't wait to see some new features, but so far, so good. Simplicity is Bliss.
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    Google + is recently launched by Google so people take time to understand this
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  • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
    Yeah it takes some time to swallow a new pill
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by RealExpert View Post

    .....really hard this time, 10 million users in less than 21 days !!! facebook has got some serious thinking to do now!!!
    Ten million?

    Or TWENTY?

    https://plus.google.com/117388252776...ts/CPvrWa4mmup

    Google hasn't started marketing Google+ through any of its other channels yet. More than a billion people worldwide use Google products, including its top rated search engine, YouTube, and Blogger. Chairman Eric Schmidt says the vision is to integrate Circles and sharing with all the other Google properties.
    All success
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  • Profile picture of the author marknel
    There were other social sites like Buzz, Wave which Google had developed to compete with FB but failed miserably.Lets see if Google + can do the magic for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2011profit
    A huge number really, this only means that we have to take our chance into getting this as our advantage.
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  • Profile picture of the author nossie
    Guys, Google+ MUST become a failed project. Google gets way and way to much power on the internet if they succeed with google+ and become the largest social network.

    They basically run the whole internet then.

    You know what that means? They will destroy any competitor that will come in their way.
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  • Profile picture of the author THK
    What exactly G+ is offering that would make people leave Facebook? I am not asking about the techy/geeky aspects or any philosophical benefits, but something that average internet users will find attractive.

    It seems like they are only playing the "privacy" card to attract everyone. And ofcourse heavy promotion. Is that really something Facebook cannot imitate and keep the people that are already using their site?

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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      Originally Posted by THK View Post

      What exactly G+ is offering that would make people leave Facebook?

      Tanvir
      You can share posts with SPECIFIC GROUPS within your broad group of followers/friends,
      using something G+ calls 'Circles'

      And Hangout is pretty cool

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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by THK View Post

      What exactly G+ is offering that would make people leave Facebook? I am not asking about the techy/geeky aspects or any philosophical benefits, but something that average internet users will find attractive.

      It seems like they are only playing the "privacy" card to attract everyone. And ofcourse heavy promotion. Is that really something Facebook cannot imitate and keep the people that are already using their site?

      Tanvir
      I'm like you; I don't see what G+ is offering (just yet) that is better than FB. If anything, they've (G+) had to come out of the gate with nothing less than what FB has to offer.

      And, I think that's all they've done really...

      Circles = Groups
      Hang Outs = Pages
      Stream = Stream

      FB has facilitated; (myself included); a LOT of individuals with an emotional bond that a lot of the G+ enthusiasts are overlooking via long lost Family members and Friends. I just recently reconnected with a very close friend of mine from Japan after 20yrs; G+ can't touch that euphoric recall.

      Yet, there are those Google enthusiasts who believe Google is the corporate demi-god of the Internet. Despite its numerous failures to enter the social arena, there are those that feel this is the one.

      Of course, we'll see an exodus of those marketers that just couldn't get the whole FB culture under their grasp. Just like those marketers that still shun RSS; one of the more powerful distribution channels on the Internet. There's some things some people just don't get.

      And since G+ is tightly integrated with gMail; those initial 20mil users were easy to port over. Just a matter of flicking a switch. We'll see some of the same spill-over from their Google Tools users; (or should I say the rest of their tools -- as gMail is one of them).

      Once G+ gets their Business section done; then we'll see some shaking. Like I said, (IMHO) I think we'll see a platform for B2B more so than a B2C; I mean it only makes sense for Google to attack that niche... its been untapped.

      MySpace didn't do it.. Twitter limited itself to 140 characters... LinkdIN hasn't been able to do it... and FB didn't even try to do it. G+ is primed to be THE one with AdSense, AdWords, Groups, G+, Docs, gMail & Android... just makes sense.

      Yet, when all the smoke is cleared.. (IMHO) I still see FB standing strong facilitating its strongest demographic; (single/working/stay at home Moms); and their sub-demographics' with emotional social interaction.

      Just my 2¢
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        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        I'm like you; I don't see what G+ is offering (just yet) that is better than FB. If anything, they've (G+) had to come out of the gate with nothing less than what FB has to offer.
        Just my 2¢
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        Marketers are excited about a new media to exploit. It's a new toy. The 750 Million people on Facebook ... the majority of them have well established profiles with real friends and real family on there and have invested time in uploading all their cool photos.

        Mass exodus FROM Facebook. I doubt it.

        Mass spammers on Google Plus. Yep. I get notices every day that so and so added me to their circle. I look at their profile and see what they've posted and they're marketers. I don't add them to my circles. There's a few marketers there so far ... basically some real upstanding Warrior folk, but if you want to connect with me on Google Plus to send me your offers or talk marketing ... no thanks.

        I talk marketing here.

        Google Plus will have a sizeable social network and given enough time, people will be in here whining and complaining ... Google Plus suspended my account. Wah Wah Wah. It's a new toy that will bite you in the ass as soon as you start spamming it.
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Marketers are excited about a new media to exploit. It's a new toy. The 750 Million people on Facebook ... the majority of them have well established profiles with real friends and real family on there and have invested time in uploading all their cool photos.

          Mass exodus FROM Facebook. I doubt it.

          Mass spammers on Google Plus. Yep. I get notices every day that so and so added me to their circle. I look at their profile and see what they've posted and they're marketers. I don't add them to my circles. There's a few marketers there so far ... basically some real upstanding Warrior folk, but if you want to connect with me on Google Plus to send me your offers or talk marketing ... no thanks.

          I talk marketing here.

          Google Plus will have a sizeable social network and given enough time, people will be in here whining and complaining ... Google Plus suspended my account. Wah Wah Wah. It's a new toy that will bite you in the ass as soon as you start spamming it.
          Hi Suzanne,

          Exactly. With new toys, come new responsibilities.

          And we like to keep the circles productive, lively and clean. Could even developed into a Mastermind Group later on. Best part is the sharing.

          So, let me try to classify the people you meant and the kind of responses I would take. At least when they are in my circle.

          1. Intentional Spammers -> without warning, we can block, flag and complain about them instantly. Better still, we can inform all in our circles that so and so is spamming. Get their email addresses and IP banned.
          Action : Give them hell.


          2. Respectable Warriors -> they usually motivate and share good resources such as tools, techniques, markets or opportunities. When they argue, it is for the good of others.
          Action : Always Plus 1 em
          .

          3. Silent Majority
          -> they observe, learn and implement what suits them. Sometimes they give comments.
          Action : Do nothing
          .

          4. Enthusiasts -> they are active and often make mistakes - big or small. Never stop poking around. Annoy some people and delight some people. They are really like a sponge when it comes to knowledge.
          Action : Advice them
          .

          5. Jokers -> they are active and make the environment lively. They will stop awhile when they hit the nerves of some people.. .. lol ... and then they start again.
          Action : Do nothing until they offend.


          6. The Bickerer -> whether or not they are experts in the subject matter, they are definitely experts in negating comments. They can and will argue on WHATEVER....lol.. Debates will juice them up and make them feel good.
          Action : Ignore them.

          People are complex beings, so there are more groups. These classifications are not scientific. Merely from my personal observations.

          I like to think I'm in category No. 4. ... lol. And love to be around category No.2.

          Whats important is the sort of responses we are giving - whether in new or old environment.
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  • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
    Google+ has features much like facebook but with its own added features like circles....
    The most lucrative and interactive feature of google+ is HANGOUT where you can share live web cam streaming with your circle buddies....
    that is something i found cool ... people may differ....
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  • Profile picture of the author Wilding
    New does not necessarily = better. Google have a huge way to catch up in social.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laugh
    Think about this: everybody in the world has a Facebook account (adding in people with multiple accounts)
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Googles whole catchphrase of "dont be evil" is a joke with this attempt to control the internet at this level.

    I hope they go down big time.
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    • Profile picture of the author drewsg
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Googles whole catchphrase of "dont be evil" is a joke with this attempt to control the internet at this level.

      I hope they go down big time.
      You don't want them to go down, but some competition would be nice.

      That's why I'm hoping Facebook is working on a search engine of some sorts. That could REALLY shake up the internet scene at the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    This trend will die

    But it would really be a good thing if this does not happen soon as competition is always good...

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  • Profile picture of the author PromoDirect
    I dont think so... Google is a renowned name on the internet. People are used to Google and they are always willing to try any new service that Google launches. It is going to be a very tight competition. Google has to work much harder than FB needs to. Facebook is an established platform with too many apps, service & functions in it. Google will have to have sufficient functions in Google+ which people havent used before or something unique from what FB have.
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  • Profile picture of the author lame123
    Well according to me, these figures are result of excitement, and the way G+ looks, I think that it lacks in the "Social Networking" quotient.. So I think Facebook would still lead the world..
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    • Profile picture of the author Voland
      Only time will tell. The growth numbers means nothing for now. Of course there are a lot of curious people.

      Facebook never worked out for me - I'm always lost in those walls, profiles and myriads of menu items. Google has the right approach with Circles.

      The big questions for me is - can it be used for the companies internal messaging? Can it be uses for customer messaging and support? For now it is not so convenient - you can't share the Circles for example.

      On the other hand - I like the GUI - much cleaner than Facebook and with other services that Google has - YouTube, Picasa etc - it should a hell of a well integrated solution once accomplished.
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    • Profile picture of the author capitalalchemy
      I'm sure that Google has worked hard to cover all of their bases, but I smell a couple of lawsuits. In fact they are constantly in court over just about everything, and they are being investigated yet again globally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Goliath
    I think the general public would NOT know of G+ until about 6 months after being launch.
    The odds are definitely weighing against them (Google) - resistance to change
    However, the business side of it in G+ looks interesting.
    The idea of it being the "social backbone" seems promising, but without any connectivity to the social giant's themselves (Facebook) = missing part?
    Anyway, i would still think that Google would not release something this huge without anticipating the response from the public.
    So, with all that has been said, THE EXCITEMENT BEGINS!
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    • Profile picture of the author azmanar
      Originally Posted by Goliath View Post

      I think the general public would NOT know of G+ until about 6 months after being launch.
      The odds are definitely weighing against them (Google) - resistance to change
      However, the business side of it in G+ looks interesting.
      The idea of it being the "social backbone" seems promising, but without any connectivity to the social giant's themselves (Facebook) = missing part?
      Anyway, i would still think that Google would not release something this huge without anticipating the response from the public.
      So, with all that has been said, THE EXCITEMENT BEGINS!
      Hi,

      Usually, huge companies have gradual roll-out plans for features. This may take place in a span of 1 to 2 years.

      At each mile-stone they have several options to take depending on market response.
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    • Originally Posted by Goliath View Post

      I think the general public would NOT know of G+ until about 6 months after being launch.
      The odds are definitely weighing against them (Google) - resistance to change
      However, the business side of it in G+ looks interesting.
      The idea of it being the "social backbone" seems promising, but without any connectivity to the social giant's themselves (Facebook) = missing part?
      Anyway, i would still think that Google would not release something this huge without anticipating the response from the public.
      So, with all that has been said, THE EXCITEMENT BEGINS!



      With that being said and I totaly agree... I am going to try to find a way to capitolize on this
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by Goliath View Post

      ...Anyway, i would still think that Google would not release something this huge without anticipating the response from the public.
      So, with all that has been said, THE EXCITEMENT BEGINS!
      ...yeah; that's about the exact same thing people said about gWave, (same amount of hype & early adoption, btw)...

      but... ::ahem:: FIZZLE-FIZZLE.. bzzt.....

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

        ...yeah; that's about the exact same thing people said about gWave, (same amount of hype & early adoption, btw)...

        but... ::ahem:: FIZZLE-FIZZLE.. bzzt.....

        It's already Fizzled for me. Took me about 2 days of trying to find some interesting people to follow and messing around with all the settings and playing with circles and now I'm bored with the whole thing.

        I go in and mute all the marketing messages on my wall because my social accounts are not about marketing and I don't want people's ads on my streams and then go to Facebook for conversation with real life friends and family ... Facebook where my kids upload great photos of themselves ... Facebook that has all of the features that I want and none of the features that I don't want.

        Circles ... Facebook has always had lists that you can share different things with different lists.

        Huddle ... Don't even think about trying to Huddle me. lol.

        Hangout ... No thanks. Facebook has video chat. I don't do video chats.

        What struck me most about Google Plus is that it is completely a ripoff of Facebook. Looks completely like Facebook. Google doesn't seem to have engineers who are capable of creative, independent thought. Copying someone else's idea is what they are noted for.

        Just look at what they did when Bing came out. Put those God awful photos on their main page to imitate Bing and changed their images search layout to match Bings.

        I saw some girl on Plus that said like ... whooopee I'm here. Now all I have to do is move 1500 photos from Facebook to here. Duh.

        Google Plus .... the Facebook Clone
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  • Profile picture of the author christiehemme
    Originally Posted by RealExpert View Post

    .....really hard this time, 10 million users in less than 21 days !!! facebook has got some serious thinking to do now!!!

    Still Now Facebook is the giant in social networking site. But now its time to move on Google+ because of:

    1. Integration of Google Services
    Google has build Google+ social networking features and tools into almost all of its existing online services from Search to Documents to Video (YouTube). It is a great integration.
    2. Better Friend Management.
    3. Better Mobile App
    4. Easier to find stuff to share
    5. You can get your data back
    6. Better photo tagging
    7. Strong group chat features.
    8. Safer Content sharing.
    9. Google is a better steward for your personal data.
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    • Profile picture of the author THK
      Originally Posted by christiehemme View Post

      9. Google is a better steward for your personal data.
      Lolz...that cracked me up.

      @Dexx
      The way you put it, does make sense. Maybe G will eventually take over. As for the growth, that would be easy. Wait until they start forcing youtube users to G+ (the way they forced gmail integration into youtube accounts).

      I guess money and forcing people can get you more things than we can imagine

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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    The same arguments people are having about Google+ not standing a chance vs Facebook...are the same arguments people had about Facebook competing with MySpace.

    Imagine starting a Hangout with just your Family circle. All of a sudden your one cousin in New York joins, and then a few moments later an Aunt from London, England also joins in...on GROUP video.

    Perhaps you watch a family video on a private YouTube link, etc.

    Not to mention once Google+ adds gaming and whatever other projects they have up ther sleeve.

    This isn't just about Google vs Facebook. It's Google vs Skype, Google vs LinkedIn, Google vs Twitter...I'm sure Google vs Groupon will be added into the mix once Business accounts are allowed, etc.

    and keep in mind access to Google+ is still limited (my Google Business accounts are able to access it), so it's not like its been fully launched either.

    Just a couple thoughts.

    ~Dexx
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  • Can someone tell me exactly what google got 10 million users into? I'm not really following. 10 million compared to 500,000,000+ is a little jurastic og google stabbing facebook wouldn't you say?
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM View Post

      Can someone tell me exactly what google got 10 million users into? I'm not really following. 10 million compared to 500,000,000+ is a little jurastic og google stabbing facebook wouldn't you say?
      It's 750 Million now. Facebook grows. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daret
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        It's 750 Million now. Facebook grows. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
        Yeah, In fact even Google + has crossed 20 million mark!

        Its good for the Internet Marketers though, we get multiple avenues from where we can get more traffic!!
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  • Profile picture of the author professorrosado
    Google's Launch Of Google + Is, Once Again, Deeply Embarrassing -- Facebook Must Be Rolling Its Eyes

    I just posted a comment about this at Business Insider.

    Well, to the defense of the author of this article, Henry Blodget, I concur with his posit in one aspect. In previous Google attempts (mentioned in many of the comments above) i.e. wave and buzz et al., being significantly viable and forward looking products in their own right (conceptually at least), what has been the result?

    Google has, by all measurement, the best chance of making great foundation setting social & informational platforms for the forseeable future. However, its past attempts have met with either fumbling on their part or in condescension to (to the most part) an uneducated marketplace. This has made their brilliant offerings (and launches) to suffer from the perception of failure and "embarassment". What is truly embarassing is that with all that Google has tried to put out in the past (and still have under their belts), it has still to come foward in a decisive move to take what is rightfully theirs - the internet's social ethos.

    I was greatly disaapointed at Wave, in particular, for not taking the place it should have. I even announced that its core technology would be the catharsis of a facebook competitor (and I still hope that G+ is in fact that) however, if this flops too we will all know why!

    The Internet, as the whole human race, needs a concise forward looking catalyst to usher in an advancement in our cumulative social cognition and our evolutionary imperatives in order to vie for our very survival. Google stands in the breach - definitely not facebook.

    We don't want Google to fail in this, but will they do as they have done before with Buzz and Wave? If they do, then the author called this one right on the head! I think that Google needs to take a very careful assessment and listen to the human soul of the Internet. The thinkers at Google need to take hold of their wits and run with this ball - if they fumble, then we still await the savior!

    Read more: Google's Launch Of Google + Is, Once Again, Deeply Embarrassing -- Facebook Must Be Rolling Its Eyes
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  • Profile picture of the author 1million1
    I haven't been inside of G+ yet.

    Does G+ allow PPC ads like FB does?

    Don't you have to be invited to G+ to sign up for it?
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  • Profile picture of the author IprovideSEO
    I agree that facebook is not going anywhere anytime soon. But I do think Google + has a better shot at becoming #2 (in social media), than Bing's efforts to becoming number #1 (in search engines).

    I am actaully kind of excited for Google +s' launch and I'm pretty sure that most people in the Internet marketing world will have 10 different accounts within the first hour of lunch
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by IprovideSEO View Post

      I agree that facebook is not going anywhere anytime soon. But I do think Google + has a better shot at becoming #2 (in social media), than Bing's efforts to becoming number #1 (in search engines).

      I am actaully kind of excited for Google +s' launch and I'm pretty sure that most people in the Internet marketing world will have 10 different accounts within the first hour of lunch
      That makes it even more exciting. The prospect of 10 fake accounts trying to be all "social" with you, as in "social spamming". :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by IprovideSEO View Post

      ... and I'm pretty sure that most people in the Internet marketing world will have 10 different accounts within the first hour of lunch
      ..HEY! Don't I know you??
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  • Profile picture of the author Acemck
    After I made some complaints (on Google+) about Google+ I was reminded that the network is still in early beta and I was thinking of it in terms of a complete and polished product. While there's not too much life there, I'm gonna give it time.

    On a side note Zynga said they were sticking with FB. Sounds like a great time for some smaller developers to break into the game market.

    $.02
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  • Profile picture of the author recessthegreat
    Although G+ launched some "new" features (like +circles, +hangout etc...), I personally think that Facebook still remains at the top...people have been comfortable with Facebook for many years and I don't think it's that easy to switch from one to the other...but then again, It's still too soon to tell...

    :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author ezybux4u
    I can't help that G+ is also a method to increase exposure of AdWords, and perhaps adapt a more targeted role for the advertisers using it, as they have lost so many to FaceBook after being slap happy fat-cats. Wow, thats gotta be the nastiest thing I have ever said here...
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  • Profile picture of the author SpinnerHawk
    I think it doesn't matter if G+ will stab or slap fb on the face or not, the good thing is now fb have strong competitor and we as a marketer will have more choice to advertise our products.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Ill make a prediction.....

    Once I see my non technical minded friends on Facebook talking about Google + ...its bye bye Facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author wpeters
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      Ill make a prediction.....

      Once I see my non technical minded friends on Facebook talking about Google + ...its bye bye Facebook.
      I agree with the aspect that G+1 is currently geared more toward technology savy people, marketers and media rather than the average person and has yet to attract 'non technical minded' people - in general.

      At its current stage of development, I am not so sure that it can de-throne Facebook because I think that it is somewhat cumbersome, compared to Facebook. But, thankfully, G+1 is still in its infancy and certainly has time to make it more user friendly as people adapt to the 'G+1 way'.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by geneticanu View Post

      But I feel its high that we should start focusing on how to use G+ to drive traffic to our site.
      Yeah. Good luck with that.

      Google slap, G+ style. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Terry
    Google+ has done something that I think is going to become a huge problem: they do not allow content they deem as not work-safe, yet have not put content controls in the hands of Plussers.

    With G+ being so new there are still a lot of holes to fill, there's no doubt in my mind this is going to give Facebook a run for it's money. Only time will tell where this goes.
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