Creating an e-Book using only images in a pdf...

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Hey everybody,

Been thinkin' again, dangerous stuff for those close by. But I got to wondering about protecting my ebooks by taking each individual page, and creating a jpg image of it, and then inserting that image (in sequence) into the ebook and creating the pdf using these images instead of actual text.

There's a method to my madness here...if I also insert a watermark, or a serial number in that image....well, I think you know where I'm going with that...

So am I overlooking something here? Does this make sense? Is it a viable process?

#creating #ebook #images #pdf
  • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
    I don't think it's worth going thru all of the effort to protect your stuff. The fact is no matter what you do those that want to steal from you will.

    But here's the thing. You have to step back and think about it for a minute, you're likely not losing anything from it. Here's what I mean.

    The people that will download your PDF for free from a hacker site, etc... would NEVER HAVE BOUGHT it from you anyway. They're hackers by nature and that's not gonna change.

    How much are you really prepared to spend in legal fees going after them?

    We do a lot of digital products as well and it's annoying to see people rip you off - I know - but I think you just have to move beyond it and not let that be a reason to slow down your efforts. The time you waste on that is just time that could have been put to better use finding JV's and promoting your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Won't stop someone from printing it out and then scanning it in using OCR software. Then saving a clean copy to distribute. Also if you disable printing they will just use screen capture to grab it.

    Rob Whisonant
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    • Profile picture of the author djemerald
      There is a saying that "locks only keep honest people out." Sadly, I guess it could apply to ebook piracy as well.

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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        It will also likely result in larger file sizes, which is an inconvenience to your paying customers.

        And, as others have mentioned, they could be printed and run through OCR.

        Even if you disable printing, a thief could probably outsource it cheaply to someone to have them retype everything.

        So, no matter what you do, you cannot completely protect your product from theft. Plus, the more protections you have, the more of a general pain in the neck it will be for your paying customers to use.

        You have to find the right balance between security and ease of use for your customers.

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  • Profile picture of the author brisboy
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
      Originally Posted by brisboy View Post

      Simply make it password protected and only give password to your customers(to open it ) and change the password very often can make a stamp on the background your logo or any thing small size...... people will know if it is original or pirated.
      The problem with passwords is that they only piss off legitimate customers. A hacker is going to crack the password fairly fast and then just distribute the password with the password protected file.

      Or they will just null out your password protection so it is no longer needed.

      Rob Whisonant
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
    Every system you can devise or purchase can also be hacked. That is the nature of hacking. If you don't believe me, look at DVD's. You think they've not invested millions trying to keep people from copying them?

    You can't fix a social problem with a technical solution. Hackers and thieves enjoy "the hunt" - the thrill of cracking a program. It's just not worth your effort or time to try and stop it - just focus on selling more, it's far more productive...
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalmoolah
    I agree with Troy. Unfortunately, some people are going to pirate your ebook. However, don't let that stop you from publishing your ebook, as most people are honest and willing to pay for the information. All you can do is to place a legal statement in your ebook that tells the reader that redistribution of your material is prohibited.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fileserve
    Originally Posted by Talltom1 View Post

    Hey everybody,
    protecting my ebooks by taking each individual page, and creating a jpg image of it, and then inserting that image (in sequence) into the ebook and creating the pdf using these images instead of actual text.if I also insert a watermark, or a serial number in that image Talltom
    I am thinking about the same method as you. A watermark is necessary! Using some software to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Talltom, that's a lot of work for potentially no gain. As Dan pointed out, it will also most likely increase the file size considerably.

    I seriously doubt doing that would improve you profits. If you consider the time lost to do it, you could probably make a case that doing so will cost you money. You could have been working on promoting it or your next product.

    Just when you think you've got it all figured out, someone changes the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author SpikeS
    If you create a product that you know is going to get distributed by a small percentage of people, you have two options (besides creating yourself all that work):

    -Forget about it. It'll happen anyway, and the people downloading your stuff probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. Free advertising, sort of.

    -Use it! You know it'll get distributed so take advantage. Create a second version of your product but FULL of affiliate links and stuff (or some other method), then distribute it yourself.

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  • Profile picture of the author Troy Broussard
    I think the big point that is being missed is that yes it will be copied, but you're not going to lose sales because of that.

    The people that go into black hat forums and piracy forums to download illegally copied eBooks would NEVER have considered buying it - it's a different crowd... They probably are just downloading out of curiosity because it's a "free" (hacked) download.

    This just becomes one of the many "busy work" tasks that so many people get bogged down with and all it really does is prevent you from making money by wasting time on something you simply cannot control.

    Successful marketers know that this is part of the price of doing business online.
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  • Profile picture of the author PromoDirect
    There are many ways to get access to the protected ebooks. You invent something new and they improve their method to cracking it. You must go ahead in publishing your book without doing anything different... a sincere reader will never try to find unethical ways to get access to your books and those will be the readers who benefited from your book.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexandru
    Personally, when I read eBooks I like to highlight the text while I'm reading and I wouldn't really want images.

    And I also believe it's not really worth it.
    Look at the big guys - Frank Kern, Eben Pagan, Jeff Walker and everyone else get ripped off big time.
    Their $1997 products are probably available for free download somewhere on the net. Just a few days ago someone added me on Skype and offered to sell 6 of these courses for $500.

    In short - you might make a few more sales, but it's definitely not worth your trouble.

    And you're not alone. Everybody else's content gets stolen as well. If nobody else worries - neither should you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Colson
    Let's say you watermark it with a serial for every purchaser. You know who spread your ebook to the pirates. Now what? Are you going to prosecute them?
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  • Profile picture of the author xavierfok
    Copying is something that you cannot prevent no matter what you do.

    A person intent on copying your product will go to the extent of typing out every word and copying out every image you have by taking a print screen.

    Yet on the other hand people who wanted to show the product to their friends to recommend it face difficulties. i have recommended products to my friends and they bought it because they were good.

    Take some time to think about the products you buy, especially those from Apple. would you accept a fake? or would you want to get the real thing?

    Anyway most of the information that you have will probably be available online somewhere. Are you going to go after the people who copied your product?

    right at the end, think about the time you are going to spend protecting your product, and also in the end going after the people who copy legally. The time could probably be spent creating another great and exciting product!

    Of course there are people who protect their products. These are the big names like microsoft and sony entertainment. But they dont go after a single individual because it is not worth their time. They go after organisations, i know because my organisation was approached before. it is more cost effective and they are able to claim more money.

    That said, consider protection after you are already making a million bucks per year.
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    • Profile picture of the author PhilipT
      The general message appears to be that whatever you do your ebook is liable to be pirated because there is always a way around that. And as Michael says, if you track down the culprit what are you then going to do then? Its seems to me that you might spend an awful lot of time and effort protecting your ebook to no avail.

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