Has IM ignored China and India?

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Hi

I am basically from India and I have to say something.

Every product, every course and almost every warrior is only looking to cater to the entire world but not either of the two fastest growing economies of the world.


Lakhshay Behl and Dr.Mani, among just a few more are only ones who managed to make it here. I don't know any of the Chinese yet.

IM education by spending in Dollars? Not possible.
Offline Seminars in Los Angeles? Great. Have a nice day.

Just what is the way out?
#china #india
  • Profile picture of the author ryanman
    Major portion of the IT industry has been outsourced to india therefore I don't feel it has been left out rather it's growing by the second. And china bans most of the western websites...Therefore there it's the govt.
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    • Profile picture of the author StevenChai
      Originally Posted by ryanman View Post

      Major portion of the IT industry has been outsourced to india therefore I don't feel it has been left out rather it's growing by the second. And china bans most of the western websites...Therefore there it's the govt.
      i have been online in China for a couple of months and i don't find much problem in accessing the western websites, especially no problem with those with English contents. So I think the main barrier is the language. In order for IM to breakthrough this biggest internet population, we do need a different marketing strategy, especially in pricing.

      thank you.
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  • Hi Ryanman,

    Latest News in -- India is no longer "a hot destination for IT Outsourcing" due to rising costs and rampant attrition here.

    Well, my question was really this...

    1. If every product was in dollars which is like 50 INR for each USD. A simple 30 USD product is like 1500 INR which is a little on the expensive side, eh?
    2. All seminars, products sold by top gurus like Dan Kennedy, etc, are beyond reach, aren't they?

    Ash
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanman
      Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post

      Hi Ryanman,

      Latest News in -- India is no longer "a hot destination for IT Outsourcing" due to rising costs and rampant attrition here.

      Well, my question was really this...

      1. If every product was in dollars which is like 50 INR for each USD. A simple 30 USD product is like 1500 INR which is a little on the expensive side, eh?
      2. All seminars, products sold by top gurus like Dan Kennedy, etc, are beyond reach, aren't they?

      Ash
      Have you seen project quick cash on clickbank? It's by an indian and he is making a killing.
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    Very good point,

    I think this will certainly be an area the more experienced warriors should be looking into, for those that haven't; briefly take a look at multilingual seo its really interesting stuff.

    Check out some of these stats, some of it is slightly off topic but awesome nonetheless.

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  • Alex,

    Your post again reminds me -- yes, we also ignore Russia, France, Spain, most of Europe.

    huh....?
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  • Profile picture of the author anonymous123567
    Exactly, personally I'm happy for now targeting the English speaking markets, however with translation services widely available nowadays its easy to get an ebook rewritten.
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    There are some pretty successful IMers, some of them members of the Warrior Forum, who are from India. One of them is a good friend and another I have communicated with a couple of times. Another person from India I just emailed back and forth with yesterday. I think you just aren't seeing the Indian IMers right now. But they are around. Trust me.
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    • Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      There are some pretty successful IMers, some of them members of the Warrior Forum, who are from India. One of them is a good friend and another I have communicated with a couple of times. Another person from India I just emailed back and forth with yesterday. I think you just aren't seeing the Indian IMers right now. But they are around. Trust me.
      Hey Angela...

      I know they are there and I know that they are successful, but you know....well.....

      As it is, IM seems to be a tough market to be in.

      On top of it, it takes a leap of faith to " take action and do something" ....

      Taking action and doing something is possible when you have knowledge....

      Knowledge comes by hanging out here, following a few courses and purchasing some software.....this takes money.

      For Instance, I was thinking of aweber( 240 $ per year) and Camtasia( 300$)? ? whistle.....That's like the salary of a middle-aged executive working for Dell in India.

      Ash
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
        Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post

        ....this takes money.

        For Instance, I was thinking of aweber( 240 $ per year) and Camtasia( 300$)? ? whistle.....That's like the salary of a middle-aged executive working for Dell in India.

        Ash
        Ash,
        I understand the difference in pay and the amounts needed to get these products. It can even be considered high for someone here starting out. I hear it all the time that things cost a lot.

        So, what you do is work with products that you can afford for now. I think camstudio(free)has been suggested many times when someone can't afford camtasia. If I remember correctly Josh Anderson has commented about this several times and even suggest it is better. (I could be wrong, so, just send Josh a PM and ask him or even do a search here on camstudio.

        As far as autoresponders. There is at least one warrior with a WSO which I think is around $50 or less a year for autoresponders. Search the WSO for autoresponders and you will find it.

        Push comes to shove---I once used a free script for my autoresponder when I first started. It actually seemed to do the job. Just no stats to look at etc.

        Also, keep an eye out in the WSO forum for almost anything you need. I have seen one time payment for autoresponders, affiliate software, membership software, various scripts, etc. and all were priced low enough that you should be able to aquire. You just have to be looking when the WSO is up.

        No matter what you start out with, you will find later that something new is out and you want to replace what you now use. It always happens.

        So, get started with what you have and when the money starts coming in, then purchase what you want if it means that much to you.

        Just my 2 cents,
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      • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
        Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post


        For Instance, I was thinking of aweber( 240 $ per year) and Camtasia( 300$)? ? whistle.....That's like the salary of a middle-aged executive working for Dell in India.
        Ash

        Thanks for the mention buddy!

        But here:s the deal: Indians definitely arwe not that poor... For I am yet to see a middle-aged executive in a nice firm making less than $1000-$1500 per month.

        With the Pay Commission 6 in action, even typists are making as much as $750/mo. (My mom is with govt. ... so I know very well )

        And since I am from IIT... (Although I've quit it now), most grads make a SOLID 6 figure dollar income every year as soon as they land their MAIN job (After the training etc.)

        Just clarifying.

        And yes, IM is yet to catch up in India, so if you are quick, you know this market is WIDE OPEN to accomodate us all... LOL

        I'm having a blast selling IM services to local businesses in India... So just move on and drop the scarcity mindset. Trust me:- INDIA is a goldmine for IM.

        I know, cuz I can feel it.

        -Lakshay
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  • Profile picture of the author AskStevenSmith
    It seems to me that the internet doesn't ignore anyone or any country. It's just up to the individuals of all of these countries to take advantage of the massive opportunity.

    Steven
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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post

    Every product, every course and almost every warrior is only looking to cater to the entire world but not either of the two fastest growing economies of the world.
    I appreciate you're probably not being literal with this comment as you then go on to say "we also ignore Russia, France, Spain, most of Europe. " but you have to remember that most marketers are targetting the major areas that it's cost effective to market to and who can also afford their products.

    That doesn't mean to say that's right but it's a logical business decision. As businessmen and women we all have to make a decision of whether or not it's worth spending time, money and effort reaching out to what in reality is a very small "actual" market.

    Looking at it from a positive point of view it leaves the market wide open for marketers in those rapidly expanding economies who can target easily without the expense of translation and who also, very importantly, understand the cultural differences.

    Nigel
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  • Looks like it was a rant that wasn't warranted?

    I couldn't have spent the energy on doing something more productive? Yes. So, after going through the posts here, I decided something NOW.

    I am going to do what I know best for now. I am going to do my own report.

    Thanks a ton Warriors. You are shaping me into something bigger than I ever thought I could be.

    Ash
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  • Profile picture of the author dail
    India has been influenced and exploited too much by western values and is fastly becoming too expensive.

    This is a shame as there is much talent.
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    • Profile picture of the author Spotted_Doe
      Ash,
      First, I'd suggest creating your own product to target the very market you're discussing.

      Aside from that, what if you got PLR to existing products, changed them up a bit for your particular audience (language and cultural differences), sold them for lower prices so they're attainable in India and built an empire doing that?

      You are in the unique position of understanding a target audience many of the rest of us don't, and being able to deliver what they need. Now, you just need to give them what they want!

      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kneb Knebaih
        Originally Posted by Spotted_Doe View Post

        Ash,
        First, I'd suggest creating your own product to target the very market you're discussing.

        Aside from that, what if you got PLR to existing products, changed them up a bit for your particular audience (language and cultural differences), sold them for lower prices so they're attainable in India and built an empire doing that?

        You are in the unique position of understanding a target audience many of the rest of us don't, and being able to deliver what they need. Now, you just need to give them what they want!

        Good luck!


        I totally agree...


        If you wanted a bit of motivation from Warriors, here you have it....


        Next step is you taking focused action.


        You know better than us (non-indians) the ins and outs of marketing to indians, what they want, what they need, etc...


        Things you can do for free right now:


        - Create a central WP blog

        - Create Squidoo Lenses linked to it

        - Create Hub pages linked to it

        - Create Blogger blogs linked to it

        - Create accounts on every top social bookmarking site

        - Create a Facebook account (profile + fan page + group page)

        - Create articles and submit them

        - Created Review sites (blogs)

        - Create video articles with your main blog/site watermarked and submit them to any video sharing site (there are free Camtasia options = $300 off

        - Create a free PDF ebook in english/indian languages, to giveaway to your target audience, to start your email list.

        - Create a Squeeze page where you offer your free ebook to get optins to your list.

        - Cross-link all your blogs/sites.

        - Include your main blog/site + your squeeze page links in each of those pages you created above.

        - Now you have created a blog farm (mini-net).

        - Then ping everyday all the pages and main blog/site.

        - Ping also the RSS feeds fomr every site.

        - Then submit also the RSS from the videos you created.

        - Then bookmark your sites and all your blog posts from your social bookmarking accounst you created.

        - And do this every week.

        - The, after some time, create your own product (ebook, video course, software, membership site), that you will pre-sell through your blog farm).



        All of the above can be done in less than a week.

        The more pages/blogs/sites you create, the more powerful your mini-net will be.

        Then just keep feeding your net with great and killer content on a daily basis.

        You can use free content and PD content to feed your net, and you can add your own words and thoughts and reviews about related IM cheap products, etc...

        You choose your niches, use the free keyword suggestions tools, and then just blog about the hot ones.


        You can market (by giving them true value for free, first) to millions and millions of indian people, in hundreds of different niches (if not thousands)... And you can be a pioneer in your country... If you choose to.


        Then spent an entire day every week organizing and automating this process, testing it, improving it, to finally (in less than 3 months) converting it to a SYSTEM, that will work for you, instead of you working for the system.



        Come on... You are Warrior (God´s sake ...

        Failure is not an option here...

        You have ALL the knowledge you need at your fingertips.

        Just wake up, use your brain, and take focused action.



        Want more motivation??


        I have a good friend in India that started last January 2008, by building 3 of those mini-nets, in 3 different niches (2 of them in indian languages).

        One of them is a yoga niche blog farm.

        He was a complete newbie. He started with no money and no knowledge.

        He just had a passion for those 3 niches.

        Now, 1 short year later, he is making an absolute killing.

        After just 3 months he decided to not work anymore for the system.

        He decided to hire another indian to make 80% of the work he was doing.

        He offered him the 20% of the monthly profits. An offer he couldn´t refuse.

        A smart move: now the new guy is working even harder than him ever did, because the more he gets the more he earns.

        Now he is looking to incorporate another guy into his system, while his income grows and grows every month.


        So the bottom line is: just do it...


        A thing that I usually notice in the Indian mindset, in most cases, is the follower-minded attitude...

        They are very good in being employees, but not so good in being the leaders, creating and building their own product, or business, or company...

        (And please, take no offense from my above words, it´s just my unbiased opinion)

        So choose to be the leader, the creator, the action-taker person.




        This is much easier than you thought... Please, think again.

        You are much better than you think you are... So please, think again.



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        • Originally Posted by Kneb Knebaih View Post

          I totally agree...


          If you wanted a bit of motivation from Warriors, here you have it....


          Next step is you taking focused action.


          You know better than us (non-indians) the ins and outs of marketing to indians, what they want, what they need, etc...


          Things you can do for free right now:


          - Create a central WP blog

          - Create Squidoo Lenses linked to it

          - Create Hub pages linked to it

          - Create Blogger blogs linked to it

          - Create accounts on every top social bookmarking site

          - Create a Facebook account (profile + fan page + group page)

          - Create articles and submit them

          - Created Review sites (blogs)

          - Create video articles with your main blog/site watermarked and submit them to any video sharing site (there are free Camtasia options = $300 off

          - Create a free PDF ebook in english/indian languages, to giveaway to your target audience, to start your email list.

          - Create a Squeeze page where you offer your free ebook to get optins to your list.

          - Cross-link all your blogs/sites.

          - Include your main blog/site + your squeeze page links in each of those pages you created above.

          - Now you have created a blog farm (mini-net).

          - Then ping everyday all the pages and main blog/site.

          - Ping also the RSS feeds fomr every site.

          - Then submit also the RSS from the videos you created.

          - Then bookmark your sites and all your blog posts from your social bookmarking accounst you created.

          - And do this every week.

          - The, after some time, create your own product (ebook, video course, software, membership site), that you will pre-sell through your blog farm).



          All of the above can be done in less than a week.

          The more pages/blogs/sites you create, the more powerful your mini-net will be.

          Then just keep feeding your net with great and killer content on a daily basis.

          You can use free content and PD content to feed your net, and you can add your own words and thoughts and reviews about related IM cheap products, etc...

          You choose your niches, use the free keyword suggestions tools, and then just blog about the hot ones.


          You can market (by giving them true value for free, first) to millions and millions of indian people, in hundreds of different niches (if not thousands)... And you can be a pioneer in your country... If you choose to.


          Then spent an entire day every week organizing and automating this process, testing it, improving it, to finally (in less than 3 months) converting it to a SYSTEM, that will work for you, instead of you working for the system.



          Come on... You are Warrior (God´s sake ...

          Failure is not an option here...

          You have ALL the knowledge you need at your fingertips.

          Just wake up, use your brain, and take focused action.



          Want more motivation??


          I have a good friend in India that started last January 2008, by building 3 of those mini-nets, in 3 different niches (2 of them in indian languages).

          One of them is a yoga niche blog farm.

          He was a complete newbie. He started with no money and no knowledge.

          He just had a passion for those 3 niches.

          Now, 1 short year later, he is making an absolute killing.

          After just 3 months he decided to not work anymore for the system.

          He decided to hire another indian to make 80% of the work he was doing.

          He offered him the 20% of the monthly profits. An offer he couldn´t refuse.

          A smart move: now the new guy is working even harder than him ever did, because the more he gets the more he earns.

          Now he is looking to incorporate another guy into his system, while his income grows and grows every month.


          So the bottom line is: just do it...


          A thing that I usually notice in the Indian mindset, in most cases, is the follower-minded attitude...

          They are very good in being employers, but not so good in leading, creating and building their own product, or business, or company...

          (And please, take no offense from my above words, it´s just my unbiased opinion)

          So choose to be the leader, the creator, the action-taker person.




          This is much easier than you thought... Please, think again.

          You are much better than you think you are... So please, think again.



          My My...

          Kneb...Hey Kneb....

          Warrior Forum is what? Just why is it that you are like this?

          I am on to it, right away. What the heck? I am warrior man....YAYAYYAYAY.

          The progress so far....

          1. Took a look at all my present blogs ...they need some work, alright.I need to add more.
          2. Purchased aweber.
          3. Made a dumb looking, totally rookie landing page for a free report In created on a niche I am very passionate about.
          4. Set up the auto responder thing ( testing right now)
          5. I will now start building a list. ( This is for the entire world, by the way)
          6. Next in line -- the report will be tweaked for the Indian audiences and made into a couple of regional languages. Promoting online using Adwords and offline promotions ( plenty of ways other than the newspapers and TV)


          I will do all of that you just said. ALL OF THAT.

          HAR HAR HAR....I am more than Inspired now, I will kill.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stanley Tang
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      I suggest you do your research better lots of successful marketers from China. Take Stanley Tang as 1 example.
      LOL thanks for the mention

      There's actually a big internet marketing market in China. They call it "wan luo ying xiao" (literally meaning internet marketing). I don't know too much about it but I'm pretty sure they've got an equivalent to the Warrior Forum or Digital Point and hang out there. English just isn't their target market which is why you don't see them around here.
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    • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      I suggest you do your research better lots of successful marketers from China. Take Stanley Tang as 1 example.
      Stanley is from Hong Kong. While HK is technically a part of China, none of China's Communist values or rules are valid there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rachael
    HI Ashwin

    To sell info products in India, how much do you think the ideal price range should be ? I know this is a bit subjective but you are in a better position to comment.

    Rachael
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    • Originally Posted by Rachael View Post

      HI Ashwin

      Having visited India, I can relate to what you are saying. I was having the same thought when I was there.

      To sell info products in India, how much do you think the ideal price range should be ? I know this is a bit subjective but you are in a better position to comment.

      Rachael
      Hi Rachel,

      Where have you been in India?

      Well, actually, the Ideal price point -- most affordable to "pain on the wallet" -- will be anywhere from 350 - 1000 INR ( 4 - 25 USD) respectively and the most expensive program ever would be like 97$ or $ 100 for a one time feel, which I doubt anyone would afford to buy.



      For most of the ppl here, the monthly recurring membership thing is a drain.

      But looking at what everyone else said, a quite introspection about everything being said by some of you guys here, I do agree that it is really how badly you want to succeed....

      I don't get the name of the person who said this but he said that "brick walls are there for a reason and that is to block people whu don't want something badly enough....". Forgive me, I must have maligned the quote totally...
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetM39482
    I think you've raised a good point here.

    I'm an Indian as well, and I know most of the Indians, when they see info products being sold for ~$100, they'll simply ingore it. Reason? Many Indians fall into the average salary of $300-$400 per month, and they'd not afford to cut 1/4th of their salary to an information product.

    And I think, as other warriors mentioned, there is a market in India, because most of the audience is ignorant over here. It's up to us to get these things to them at a price they can afford. (Maybe 500 INR at max?)
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I have a couple site members from india, some of my most active members
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  • Profile picture of the author Spencer Jones
    Hello Ashwin, Where are you in India? I agree it's bit tough for an Internet Marketer in India to find real success. But I do believe that persistence and consistence can show the difference.

    Yes it's tough to sell info products and ebooks, to Indian Audience for rates in the range of dollars it's because they are not accustomed to it. Majority might have never heard the idea of buying and selling E-books.

    And another thing is that most Indians trying to do marketing online are of the mid age groups and are still under the care of their parents, who doesn't have a slight idea what internet marketing is. My parents used to tell me, stop wasting your time and risking your health infront the computer, and that there are lots of cheaters out there. It's another big reason why Indian IMérs are losing their focus and confidence in IM.

    What's the way out? I think, for an India starting out in IM. I think there is better IM education we can gain from the info that's freely and openly available to the public and there's really no need to spend any money on IM education. (Warrior forum indeed is a great example). Just don't spend any more money. Start working on the things that you learned for free and never giveup until you see results.

    Once you have made enough out of the free education you had, then ofcourse you can think about spending money for better services and better education.

    Regards
    Spencer Jones
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave777
    Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post

    Hi

    I am basically from India and I have to say something.

    Every product, every course and almost every warrior is only looking to cater to the entire world but not either of the two fastest growing economies of the world.


    Lakhshay Behl and Dr.Mani, among just a few more are only ones who managed to make it here. I don't know any of the Chinese yet.

    IM education by spending in Dollars? Not possible.
    Offline Seminars in Los Angeles? Great. Have a nice day.

    Just what is the way out?
    Incorrect... Some might not know this, But there are Many very successful internet marketers all around you in India...
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  • Profile picture of the author Prashaant
    I've been a full time IM'er for almost 2 years now... and there's only one other person i've actually spoken with that is into part time IM..... Guess i need to socialize a lil more now...
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  • @ Spencer....I live in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh. Right...the fact that all these products might be a little expensive is true and I still stick to my rant. But when I started my offline business about a year ago and quickly wound it up, guess how much I spent? 1.00,000 INR. About 2500 USD. I am still paying that loan.

    Internet businesses are still cheap compared to what every OTHER business person would have spent on his/her businesss, right?

    @ Lakshay -- Let's not talk about jobs at all.Don't get wild at me for this, because I have a lot of respect for you.This is just MY point of view here and I have extreme hatred towards Jobs;they are INSULTING to me. All of those salaries are quoted on gross CTC and the real money these guys take home is still less than what I make from my ghost writing alone. I don't intend to demean anyone working right now, but it's not for ME :-)

    But I was actually thinking about providing IM services to local businesses in India. lol..Even if I sold them web-hosting door-to-door, I would make a cool 6 figures, recurring. You can then add all sorts of other services...wow. There's just no limit. When I run out of business in this country, I will start with China, perhaps? lol....

    @ Hi Prashaant.....Pleased to meet you.
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  • Profile picture of the author bendiggs
    I think that eventually it'll catch up. This guy I know only sells to the Korean market and he makes a killing, but he's born Korean and knows the language inside out so he can do that.

    I tried to sell to other countries like Mexico, but the language barrier became an issue with support tickets.
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    • Originally Posted by bendiggs View Post

      I think that eventually it'll catch up. This guy I know only sells to the Korean market and he makes a killing, but he's born Korean and knows the language inside out so he can do that.

      I tried to sell to other countries like Mexico, but the language barrier became an issue with support tickets.
      India doesn't have the language barrier problem though. Good number of english speaking crowd here.

      It is indeed a huge market and can be sold to. Maybe a demographic campaign of some sort should do the trick, with revised pricing though. Now since I can't really do affiliate marketing to them, I ought to be selling them my own products..
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel E Taylor
    I told you guys in a video. This is the future of IM.

    Internet = New World Economy.

    The old structures are crashing fast.

    Yet the smart internet marketers are seeing
    more money than ever and continues to grow.

    Wake up.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    Ashwin, I understand your perspective. There are a few well know internet marketers in India and there sure are others who make money online, but not so popular.

    The larger portion of people from India make money online doing freelance programming/web design/content services. And the others who make money selling information products, cater most likely US, UK and other markets.

    People from India are definitely looking for ways to make money online. I personally know this from building a small list of people from India wanting to make money online. However earning in Indian Rupees and spending in US Dollars is a very real problem.

    4 years ago when I had to buy a $97 product I would think about it for a whole day to pull out my credit card to make that purchase. But once you take action you will soon start seeing results, at that point you will realize how lucrative it is earning in US Dollars and spending in Indian Rupees. The exact opposite of the situation you started in.

    It may not be an easy road, but is definitely doable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave777
    An interesting read with some web ideas to multiply and seriously consider...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/te...1hindi.html?em
    http://quillpad.in/hindi/

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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    India focus more on IT stuff rather than internet marketing.
    China on the other hand, is at disadvantage because the language we use is English most of the time
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  • Profile picture of the author daijoubu
    Would be good to see IM expanding into India and China, but in terms of marketing to those countries aren't chargebacks often a problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I am not sure about the situation in India other than dollar conversion may make it spendy to buy products from Americans or other countries which may have prices which are normal in their own country but way out of line for those in India.

    There is definitely a problem with China, however - first because of censorship and second because of language barriers. There aren't too many trustable translators who can actually convey a message other than through literal translation, and we all know there are problems with literal translation.
    Take the Coca Cola ad as case in point - the ad was "Coke adds life" and someone did a literal translation which resulted in the Coca Cola company telling the Chinese that "Coke will bring your ancestors back from the dead"
    Not many can write in Chinese either - 5,000 base characters? That's a lot of learning to be able to market a 25 buck ebook. There has been a cold war atmosphere between China and the States that just hasn't been conducive to mingling. As More and more people meet here on the internet, it is likely that the US and China might cross boundaries with their marketing more. India might take longer with price conversions being so different.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    It is definitely not true that IM has left China behind. It is just that they market in Chinese to their people only. They have got some of the most horrific spam-mail campaigns, MLM, Ponzi scams, philhing trojans and viruses that the world has ever seen. Also, they have got some of the best hackers around. Believe me, you don't want them to come over here.
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  • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
    Ashwin

    You are looking to buy stuff and saying the prices are beyond reach of the average Indian?

    First, friend, get it out of your mind that you need to buy stuff, learn and then get into IM. The sooner you start selling and stop buying, the sooner you make money.

    Let me repeat this: You make money selling, not buying. Create something of value and sell.

    Don't worry about educating yourself in IM. Given the goldmine of information you get in WF, you actually don't need to buy anything.

    And follow the advice given in Kneb's post here. Pretty good advice.
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    • Originally Posted by nvs74191 View Post

      Ashwin

      You are looking to buy stuff and saying the prices are beyond reach of the average Indian?

      First, friend, get it out of your mind that you need to buy stuff, learn and then get into IM. The sooner you start selling and stop buying, the sooner you make money.

      Let me repeat this: You make money selling, not buying. Create something of value and sell.

      Don't worry about educating yourself in IM. Given the goldmine of information you get in WF, you actually don't need to buy anything.

      And follow the advice given in Kneb's post here. Pretty good advice.

      That's right, I am following everyone's advice to the T. Like I had mentioned before, I did Invest in aweber, coz I really wanted it since I am in this for long term.

      I am already out with a free report for freelance writers :-)

      Now, I have to get traffic. YAYAYAY.

      I realized on thing. Taking action is almost 50% success... the rest, as they say, is history.
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteBuilder
    Hi Ash,

    I'm from India too and I have a slightly different take on this.

    Yes, IM products are very expensive because 1 dollar is approximately 50 Rupees. But the flip side is, every dollar of income also gives you 50 Rupees! The reason I stuck around in IM was that early on, I sold a couple of affiliate products from my first website and earned about Rs 1000 in almost no time.

    I think its far, far easier to make a living as an IM'er in India than as an IM'er in the US because of the exchange rate and the cost of living differences.

    The $1=Rs50 situation is actually a big positive.

    Thanks and regards,
    Sanjeev
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  • Profile picture of the author Learnanew
    Since free translation is so easy to get these days, I'm guessing translating e-books into hindi and chinese would help alot.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Learnanew View Post

      Since free translation is so easy to get these days, I'm guessing translating e-books into hindi and chinese would help alot.
      You know where to get actually GOOD translations into Mandarin for FREE? Literal translation doesn't work and considering the 5,000 character base alphabet, I'm having a problem determining where you are going to get someone with the appropriate keyboard and the appropriate knowledge of both languages that is going to translate and type out a whole ebook for you for no charge. This is NOT a job for babelfish.
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  • Profile picture of the author daddyg
    I've often wondered about this myself, the China and India markets must be huge, particularly as their economies are still growing.

    The Spanish speaking market is obviously huge too...I think I read somewhere a while back that in the USA, Spanish will be more widely spoken than English in a few years time.
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  • Profile picture of the author educationist09
    Well, I am also an indian and I dont agree with you. In my span with warrior till now I have seen many indians and many posts posted by indians and chinese. And also i have seen many americans and austrialians replying to those posts and threads.
    I guess I somehow got lucky and have seen many people from these two countries.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by ashwinsatyanarayana View Post

    Every product, every course and almost every warrior is only looking
    to cater to the entire world but not either of the two fastest growing
    economies of the world.
    ...
    IM education by spending in Dollars? Not possible.
    Offline Seminars in Los Angeles? Great. Have a nice day.

    Just what is the way out?

    Hi Ashwin

    You make a great point, one I addressed a few years ago
    in something called "The Bottom of Pyramid IM Manifesto".

    My strategy for selling infoproducts online was shaped
    by that manifesto, as well as something my good friend
    Kevin Riley shared about selling low priced ebooks/reports.

    It is also why I plan an 'India specific' pricing for my
    new program, which will be one-third of the regular cost,
    and within the budget of most Indian IM'ers.

    Thanks for highlighting what I agree completely with you
    is a limiting issue for most beginners and even many
    advanced and 'successful' entrepreneurs living in some
    parts of the world.

    All success
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    • Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      Hi Ashwin

      You make a great point, one I addressed a few years ago
      in something called "The Bottom of Pyramid IM Manifesto".

      My strategy for selling infoproducts online was shaped
      by that manifesto, as well as something my good friend
      Kevin Riley shared about selling low priced ebooks/reports.

      It is also why I plan an 'India specific' pricing for my
      new program, which will be one-third of the regular cost,
      and within the budget of most Indian IM'ers.

      Thanks for highlighting what I agree completely with you
      is a limiting issue for most beginners and even many
      advanced and 'successful' entrepreneurs living in some
      parts of the world.

      All success
      Dr.Mani
      Hi Dr.Mani,

      It's a pleasure to have your acquaintance.I heard a lot about you even before I sauntered into the WF, through SFI.

      I had always hoped I would be able to talk to you one day.

      It's an amazing thing that you are planning to do some India specific pricing for us.

      It's one point of view that we could all get started for free, not worry about NOT going through the learning curve of the IM education.

      All of that would just take too much time -- the reason information products are great because an experienced and successful person is now sharing his knowledge to people who invest in that program -- this cuts the learning curve considerably.

      But for us, trying to do something about our lives from the other parts of the world, it just got a bit harder.

      Oh yes, we have benefits too, don't we? like someone on this thread said "1 USD = 50 INR".

      I, for one, am on to it. I don't care anymore. I will make it and about that I am damn sure.
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