How can facebook overlook this!!

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The viral growth of Google+ has slowed somewhat over the past few days, but my new-and-improved 1,000 surname model shows that more than 750,000 people joined the site on Monday, bringing the total user base to just under 18 million.
oh facebook, with this rate of growth, you will be crushed in months .... well, depends!
#facebook #overlook
  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Correct: it depends.

    Sure, everybody gets a Google +1 account. They check it out and maybe never log in again...



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    • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      Correct: it depends.
      i left that on purpose ....:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Heidi White
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      Correct: it depends.

      Sure, everybody gets a Google +1 account. They check it out and maybe never log in again...



      HP
      I'm seeing many people in other people's circles with NO POSTS, NO PROFILE & NO INTERACTION...since they first created their accounts.

      It could just be the 80/20 rule.

      For the 20% willing to work it - I can see some serious potential.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    People change platforms mostly because of boredom.

    I dont see the trend changing any time soon.

    Friendster > Myspace > Facebook > .......

    It annoys me at how M Zuckerberg has this belief that he is somehow immune to this trend. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      People change platforms mostly because of boredom.

      I dont see the trend changing any time soon.

      Friendster > Myspace > Facebook > .......

      It annoys me at how M Zuckerberg has this belief that he is somehow immune to this trend. :rolleyes:
      Bulls eye! and it is also interesting to note that facebook has done nothing to keep people on board.... With this growth on google+, the day is not far away when facebook will be sold to some company... well, just a thought
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Lassiter
      [QUOTE=ramone_johnny;4301297]People change platforms mostly because of boredom.

      I agree.
      I will say just now checking out Google + myself I do like the platform and also the way to segragate users into groups and be selective with the messages you send them.
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    • Profile picture of the author webentrpreneur
      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      People change platforms mostly because of boredom.

      I dont see the trend changing any time soon.

      Friendster > Myspace > Facebook > .......

      It annoys me at how M Zuckerberg has this belief that he is somehow immune to this trend. :rolleyes:
      Business school teaches you about a concept called "Paradigm Shift"...every leader in an industry must do their best to keep an eye on where the wind is blowing for the season. It behooves Zuckerburg to pay attention to the new trend that is forming with Google+ or he will find his site/source of income becoming "obsolete".
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate Simms
    I just recently read somewhere that nearly 80-percent (or something close to that) of Google+'s registered users are male.

    While the explosive growth is certainly impressive, I don't think it has any bearing at all in terms of competition.

    Google+, I believe, is simply a new toy that people are checking out because it is currently a technology/media buzz word.

    People will be back to Facebook soon enough (who, by the way, has almost an even 50/50 split of males and females).

    Just my food for thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author WebPen
      Originally Posted by NateSimms View Post

      I just recently read somewhere that nearly 80-percent (or something close to that) of Google+'s registered users are male.
      ...
      Google+, I believe, is simply a new toy that people are checking out because it is currently a technology/media buzz word.
      That's true in a way, because males are more tech nerdy/savvy than females-

      But I don't think it means everyone will migrate back to Facebook.

      There are TONS of people who hate Facebook because they get 10 invitations to a new app every day.

      They also get tired of seeing what ALL of their friends and family are doing, or having to share with everyone anytime you post (unless you use their filter, which isn't nearly as easy as Google+'s)

      Google+ is so cool because you keep your posts in the circle that you want.

      So when I'm posting something to my WoW buddies, the hot chick in my marketing class won't see it!

      Likewise when I say I'm going to the gym- my "Hot Girls" circle does see it.

      (P.S. I'm married so I don't do that, these are just examples) :p
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

        Likewise when I say I'm going to the gym- my "Hot Girls" circle does see it.

        (P.S. I'm married so I don't do that, these are just examples) :p
        Hope your wife think likewise when she read you post
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    • Profile picture of the author TracyNeedham
      Originally Posted by NateSimms View Post

      I just recently read somewhere that nearly 80-percent (or something close to that) of Google+'s registered users are male.
      Hmmm, I better get my invite on Google+ activated!

      FB has made some changes lately to be a bit friendlier to businesses so they're not just sitting on their duffs. But I do think Google+ will put a dent in it for the sheer fact that people will see it everywhere online.
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  • Profile picture of the author ak1lz
    I personally hope Google can overthrow Facebook. Google will offer so much more, but it seems Google is just taking over everything now days.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi HP,

      Correct: it depends.

      Sure, everybody gets a Google +1 account.
      Incorrect
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  • Profile picture of the author RobCopywriter
    I agree with people signing up to check it out, as to be honest is the thing that I would do, I doubt I would stick around. Is it invite only or free for everyone to join? Because I heard it was invite only?
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Once people start to discover and utilize the hangout feature more, Google+ will become increasingly popular.
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  • Profile picture of the author quiescen
    I wonder when Google will open this up to all. Right now it's pretty boring.
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    • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
      I think circles has far more functionality than all that we are thinking....
      Make circles more specific and then control who sees what ....

      it is hassle free unlike facebook privacy options on post
      where you have to manually select people whom you would
      want the post to be seen.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    I don't even need to check it out... nor will most
    people who are on Facebook for social networking.

    I have a very old and tight circle of friends there.
    Why would I, or they, need to move elsewhere just
    to do the same thing?

    Yeah... I know... a lot of you think this is going to be
    the next great thing for internet marketing. It won't
    be... and you'll be looking for that next great thing again,
    soon... shiny object syndrome.

    Doubt that? Tell me when was the last time Google did
    anything on purpose for your benefit?

    Yeah...

    Never.

    As for their current growth I'm reminded of something
    my country farmer Grandfather used to tell me...

    "Son, don't worry about all that. A dog that ****s fast don't **** long."

    And there you have it...

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  • Profile picture of the author learnmore
    Having a formidable competitor like Google means Face Book will take notice. FB will introduce new features, make their existing FB environment better. They are closed system but GPlus is going to be open (in terms of interoperability among other platforms). GPlus definitely solves some problems that are not addressed by FB but of course it remains to be seen how much of a traction GPlus will get in the long run.

    Die hard FB fans probably won't switch but there's customer born every second. Gplus stands to capture the upcoming generation if not the current one :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Soto
    I don't think facebook has anything to worry about with google+ right now all of our friends, and for the first time, parents are on facebook! Mark Zuckerburg is a very smart son of a gun and google admitted fear of them.

    Google+ plus isn't going anywhere long term. Facebook is all the rage and they are NOT making the same mistakes as myspace.

    I bet anyone $1,000 google+ dies to facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamza
    Come on guys, i think that it's waaay too soon to judge Google + now, let's see what's gonna happen in a year, are they gonna maintain their level of growth and out rank fb in terms of the user base, or is it gonna slow down ? that's the real question, and over all, I'm sure that google will do an amazing job with their new toy, they will add a lot of other features that will force people to join but again .... too soon to judge
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  • Profile picture of the author phowell23
    Once Google starts banning Google+ users for various TOS reasons they'll come back to Facebook for good
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
      I'm yet to hear much buzz about google plus outside of the IM world. In fact, if it wasn't for the warrior forum I doubt I would have heard of it at all.

      To be honest, I haven't signed up yet so I can't comment on the quality.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
      Originally Posted by phowell23 View Post

      Once Google starts banning Google+ users for various TOS reasons they'll come back to Facebook for good
      "Dear google plus user,

      You have received a permanent, completely irreversible lifetime ban for generic, ambiguous reasons we don't particularly care to explain.

      Please feel free to contact our help desk who will provide you with a template response, answering none of your questions or shedding any possible light on your unfortunate circumstance, serving only to infuriate you even further.

      Look on the bright side though.. all your friends and family have been banned too.

      All the best,

      Google random banning team"
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong View Post

        "Dear google plus user,

        You have received a permanent, completely irreversible lifetime ban for generic, ambiguous reasons we don't particularly care to explain.

        Please feel free to contact our help desk who will provide you with a template response, answering none of your questions or shedding any possible light on your unfortunate circumstance, serving only to infuriate you even further.

        Look on the bright side though.. all your friends and family have been banned too.

        All the best,

        Google random banning team"

        More accurately I think.... :p

        Dear Google Plus User,

        Google Plus was simply a test campaign orchestrated by the Google Spam Team, with the acknowledgement going into the process that people who want to manipulate Google's SERPs are going to flock to our website to get an account, so they can pitch their own links.

        We knew in advance that the SEO community would applaud the creation of Google Plus as a great way to get great links to impress the Google algorithm.

        And we did nothing to change that incorrect perception, because we saw it as an excellent opportunity to have all of the people who spam Google daily to SHOW US who they are.

        To date, the only signups we have had are people in the IM community and people who were quick to drop links to their websites, before leaving to never return to our site.

        First off, we want to thank you for taking the time to help us prove that you folks are so very predictable.

        Secondly, we want to thank you for linking to all of your sites before leaving for the last time.

        Third, we want to let you know that we have just permanently removed all of your websites from our index, because it is easier to police spammers when we can identify and block the whole lot of you in one fell swoop.


        Sincerely,

        The Google Spam Team
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          More accurately I think.... :p
          Even more accurately...

          Dear Google Plus User,

          Sucker!

          Sincerely,

          The Google Spam Team
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      • Profile picture of the author richgrad
        Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong View Post

        "Dear google plus user,

        You have received a permanent, completely irreversible lifetime ban for generic, ambiguous reasons we don't particularly care to explain.

        Please feel free to contact our help desk who will provide you with a template response, answering none of your questions or shedding any possible light on your unfortunate circumstance, serving only to infuriate you even further.

        Look on the bright side though.. all your friends and family have been banned too.

        All the best,

        Google random banning team"
        LOL... nice one
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      • Profile picture of the author topfree
        Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong View Post

        "Dear google plus user,

        You have received a permanent, completely irreversible lifetime ban for generic, ambiguous reasons we don't particularly care to explain.

        Please feel free to contact our help desk who will provide you with a template response, answering none of your questions or shedding any possible light on your unfortunate circumstance, serving only to infuriate you even further.

        Look on the bright side though.. all your friends and family have been banned too.

        All the best,

        Google random banning team"


        --Please feel free to contact our help desk who will provide you with a template response, answering none of your questions or shedding any possible light on your unfortunate circumstance, serving only to infuriate you even further.--

        "Scratch that, instead we are not going to provide any help desk. We will however give you a chance to appeal using our appeal form. After we receive your appeal we wont look at it but we'll send you an auto response "denial of appeal" in about 2 months to make you think we at least read your appeal ."
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        • Profile picture of the author Daret
          Originally Posted by MostlyHarmless View Post

          I'm seeing many people in other people's circles with NO POSTS, NO PROFILE & NO INTERACTION...since they first created their accounts.

          It could just be the 80/20 rule.

          For the 20% willing to work it - I can see some serious potential.
          Yup, you hit the nail on the right spot buddy! Anyone who is willing to work it, can see some serious potential for sure!!

          Originally Posted by JamesGw View Post

          Once people start to discover and utilize the hangout feature more, Google+ will become increasingly popular.
          yeah, that is what I was thinking!

          Originally Posted by Hamza View Post

          Come on guys, i think that it's waaay too soon to judge Google + now, let's see what's gonna happen in a year, are they gonna maintain their level of growth and out rank fb in terms of the user base, or is it gonna slow down ? that's the real question, and over all, I'm sure that google will do an amazing job with their new toy, they will add a lot of other features that will force people to join but again .... too soon to judge
          I absolutely agree, Its way too soon, Google + crossing 20 million members in such a short span of time is itself awesome, especially for Internet Marketers

          Google + is going to increase in terms if popularity and userbase for sure in coming future...

          Originally Posted by MadaDaas View Post

          yeah i think it will be years before facebook is crushed. yes there is a heap of spam but people aren't ready to leave
          yeah, I dont see facebook getting crushed, but yeah, facebook would be worried, since google + is catching up at a pretty good pace!
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    • Profile picture of the author islandbreezes
      Originally Posted by phowell23 View Post

      Once Google starts banning Google+ users for various TOS reasons they'll come back to Facebook for good
      that's really funny! I personally don't like google +1. I tolerate fb because everyone is on it.

      it will be interesting to see which one becomes dead like myspace
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  • Profile picture of the author brentb
    95% of my friends have switched over to Google+

    My college buddies are primarily on Google+...
    My coworkers are on Google+

    Not a big fan of Facebook... so this all seems to be good news!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I think that each social networking site has a different functioning. I don’t think that Google+ will cause a revolution. It’s simply going to be another facebook or another twitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    People are signing up to check it out and if they like it they'll stick around. Let's see in a few months who will reign supreme.
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    Facebook must not be too worried about Google plus...Mark Zuckerberg is on there and has 200,000 plus followers:

    https://plus.google.com/104560124403...88998123/posts
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  • Profile picture of the author grandstar
    I have a google account but I never use it for socialising. Facebook is the only site I use for that purpose. I don't even visit my myspace account anymore.

    One day, facebook may suffer that same fate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laugh
    Facebook? Crushed in months?

    Not even close!
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    • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
      Originally Posted by Laugh View Post

      Facebook? Crushed in months?

      Not even close!
      yeah i think it will be years before facebook is crushed. yes there is a heap of spam but people aren't ready to leave
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  • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
    Originally Posted by RealExpert View Post

    oh facebook, with this rate of growth, you will be crushed in months .... well, depends!
    i think facebook will hold ontop for a few more years because its become user friendly in time. google plus looks like a good professional network so it will hang in like linkedin
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    I also think that people are just signing up to check it out...

    Registered but never logged in again

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    I'm going to quote myself from a similar thread;

    Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

    Holy cow, 10 million compared to Facebooks 750 million users, they must be shaking in their boots sweating like a b*tch in heat. :rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author Wilding
    They don't change platforms out of boredom. They change out of necessity (the old platform sucked and all their friends are moving to the new platform because of it).
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by James Fortzman View Post

      They don't change platforms out of boredom. They change out of necessity (the old platform sucked and all their friends are moving to the new platform because of it).

      Then why would Google build something that looks like a cheap rip-off of FaceBook?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I don't want to give Google control of yet another one of my online activities. It is dangerous when one company has a monopoly over everything. I cannot see Facebook going anytime soon. If people get bored with Facebook it has more to do with the boring lives of their friends and family rather than the actual platform this info is being shared on. People are just getting a little bored of hearing what their families and friends are up to. It was bound to happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    What is all this hooplah about FB being in trouble due to G+?? Boy, the Internet media has taken over just like traditional media, huh?

    There's very little fact in any of these claims. People are getting bored with FB?? Really?? Is that why they're still on an upward climb regarding their membership numbers? Not too long ago they were boasting 500mil users... now its 700mil+? And that's still with a 73% active user ratio.

    G+ has stuff FB doesn't?? Really? What?

    Circles = Lists
    Hang Outs = (crippled) Pages
    ?? = Pages
    ?? = Groups

    I just realized that you can do the exact same thing with FB Lists as you can with G+ Circles. When you go to customize who you're sharing your status/post/link whatever with, (by clicking on the little lock and choosing 'customize')... you can type the name of a List you've previously created and only post to that List.

    You create the List by clicking on 'Profile' then the edit icon above your 'Friend's List'.. at the bottom of the page that comes up, you can create as many "Lists" as you want. You add people to each List from your main Friend's List. Easy.

    G+ isn't even coming out of the gate with the basic FB functionality. Its a crippled version of FB. Let's not even get into FB Pages and what they just did for the community with iFrames. G+ has what? The cute little Stream?

    OK, OK.. so they're working on their Business Features ::yawn:: Any day now...

    The ONLY thing I see G+ doing "better"; (if you can call it that); is the UI has some use-ability enhancements... but, they're pretty logical fixes if you look at the pioneer's layout and design.

    Why hasn't FB fixed these design flaws, yet? Well, its one of those things that developers always have problems explaining to end-users. Its just not that easy with rapid growth in your way. You can't just change stuff without extensive research on how it will affect the user-base. Take that lightly and just throw stuff out there and watch your growth turn direction FAST.

    FB (IMHO) is in the process of addressing their flaws; just over time. Their first move to get rid of user dependence on FBML was a very good one. Make it easier for users to generate content; you're always gonna win.

    All-in-all.. I don't think FB is in any trouble. Remember, MicroSoft had Windows & .Net, Hotmail, MSN, MSN Groups, MSN Messenger & Windows Mobile when Google first got on the block. Now Google is sweating about Bing and has failed multiple times trying to infiltrate the social arena. Remember when America figured they could jump off in Viet Nam while the Soviet Union was still a major threat? We got our ass kicked.. business is war... ain't no difference.

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  • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
    i think google plus might really kick off if it gives you more options at the moment it looks like a text website. like where is the graphics. twitter looks better.
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  • Profile picture of the author deehibbs
    :rolleyes:I,m over Facebook with their barriers for those of us in business.Although they have created business pages they aren't very well thought out and I know family are sick of seeing me post about marketing.Face book groups have become a pain to post in as they have put captcha's on every time you post.One day they will be begging us back!
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by deehibbs View Post

      I'm over Facebook with their barriers for those of us in business.Although they have created business pages they aren't very well thought out and I know family are sick of seeing me post about marketing. Face book groups have become a pain to post in as they have put captcha's on every time you post. One day they will be begging us back!
      Well, why are your family members a fan of your page if they are sick of seeing you post about marketing? If you don't want to annoy your family members with business stuff then you simply create a fanpage for your business and only people who want to keep up to date with your business will join it. Simple.

      Fanpages were created to handle the business side of things and keep your personal and business contacts separate - so use them. As for fanpages being not 'very well thought out', in what way? Can you elaborate as to what they do not do that they should do? I'd be interested to hear what the problems are. I personally think fanpages are pretty good and work well. You need to remember they have to design them in a way that they can't be exploited by all the idiots out there - otherwise Facebook wouldn't be around for very long.

      Most of the people I hear complaining about Facebook fanpages tend to be those who don't know exactly how to use them or those who want to do the sorts of things Facebook are trying to prevent.
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  • Profile picture of the author PromoDirect
    The fact that people are joining Google+ is just because they want to try it. Google is a renowned name on the internet... everyone loves them... therefore they are trying their service. Facebook on the other hand will keep surviving because Google+ doesn't have too much interesting to give... like the FB Applications, FB Games, FB Fan Pages, FB Business Pages, FB Videos etc.. this is what will keep people attached to FB unless Google+ comes up with something similar to this amusements or beyond.
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  • Profile picture of the author harrietfredge
    Facebook will be crushed? Yeah, it really depends. But I totally don't agree with every one getting a Google +1 account.
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    • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
      Originally Posted by harrietfredge View Post

      Facebook will be crushed? Yeah, it really depends. But I totally don't agree with every one getting a Google +1 account.
      i think google should be more a business based social network.
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  • Profile picture of the author cryst
    but its my opinion that google+ can,t beet facebook in social networking....facebook rocks in this world....
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  • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
    facebook is good but so much bloody SPAM i am sick of stupid pages being made and spammy pictures and black hatters destroying it. i think Facebook should add a pay to create a page service so you have to pay a few hundred dollars to create a fan page for your business.

    it needs a better monitoring system. right now its to much free advertisement and people selling cheap spammy services.
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  • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
    I remember when, in the last days of orkut, it was bombarded with stupid pages.... then facebook came into the scene....
    now i see the same stupid pages scattered all over facebook ...

    Till now, Google+ is somewhat "cleaner version of facebook"
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    • Profile picture of the author Voland
      There is no question - Facebook and Twitter will both be affected. This insane growth of Facebook has to stop - there is no reason for that. Google is much more mature in terms of marketing and they can pull off with their new social network effort. Facebook is horrible for developers - and this is one of their major weaknesses - I'd trade Facebook for something else any moment as I'm tired of them constantly breaking stuff for developers.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Google's+1 terms were written by a child or a very bad lawyer. Privacy is dead once you sign-up. Even if you log off before surfing.

    No games will kill it. 80% of ppl on FB are playing stupid games. Google+ is more like Linked-in, but with less options.

    Personally, I think it appeals more to IMers and hackers. It is almost as if it was built in order to discover IM sites of questionable use, artificial back-links and the predatory habits of the universal hacker.

    It's a trick! A conspiracy of one. Once you join, even if you sign out, they can, (& I am sure, will) track you by IP and will find what sites are connected that way if you are not already using their web master tools. The privacy policy uses wrong legal terms in wrong places, looks like it is ambiguous and arbitrary on purpose to allow them to do anything they want.

    ^ Is my personal opinion only! In my estimation, the only 'power' more dangerous today is China.

    Whoa, Doggie!
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    • Profile picture of the author tecHead
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      Google's+1 terms were written by a child or a very bad lawyer. Privacy is dead once you sign-up. Even if you log off before surfing.

      No games will kill it. 80% of ppl on FB are playing stupid games. Google+ is more like Linked-in, but with less options.

      Personally, I think it appeals more to IMers and hackers. It is almost as if it was built in order to discover IM sites of questionable use, artificial back-links and the predatory habits of the universal hacker.

      It's a trick! A conspiracy of one. Once you join, even if you sign out, they can, (& I am sure, will) track you by IP and will find what sites are connected that way if you are not already using their web master tools. The privacy policy uses wrong legal terms in wrong places, looks like it is ambiguous and arbitrary on purpose to allow them to do anything they want.

      ^ Is my personal opinion only! In my estimation, the only 'power' more dangerous today is China.

      Whoa, Doggie!
      Just to make sure that line about this being your personal opinion is accentuated. Don't want people making the mistake in thinking this rhetoric is actually true.

      Google's entire personalization mechanism is opt-out enabled. Just check your Google Account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
    Facebook will stay. Not sure about Twitter anymore, since it turned to be a spamfest and it reminds me "the last days" of MySpace.

    Google+ is growing as a business networking site. If only they'd integrate some features from LinkedIn...
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  • Profile picture of the author MadaDaas
    if google makes sure no spammy **** happens. it could take over. i know i love clean environments. i hate that spammy crap and when the user has a lot of power. like facebook there is to much pages and all this like crap everywhere lol!

    i am sure everyone agrees its become badly spammy!
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  • Profile picture of the author staggerlee
    G+ has the advantage of a captive audience through Gmail and Android phones.

    Google has the disadvantage in that they are about to get slapped by the FTC
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  • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
    google+ has more than 75% of male majority!!!! where are ladies????
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