Embarrased of insensitive Internet Marketers

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Today has been a terrible day here in Oslo and Norway. Earlier today a bomb exploded outside the govmt building and so far 7 people was killed by the explotion. More are injured.

A few hours later a man dressed in a police uniform attaced the annual political camp for teens between 11 and 25 at the island Utøya outside Oslo. He went crazy with an automatic weapon hunting down the 500 kids and teens camping there. 9 people are confirmed dead and the body count will probably grow.

Now I see my fellow Internet Marketers on Facebook and Twitter using #Utøya and related hash tags to promote spam videos. If you are using some automatic tool to spam people, you should know that terror attacs will be trending topics. If this is not done by automation you are just evil.

We should not use terror attacs as an opportunity to make money or gain followers.
#internet #marketers #shame
  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Shame on you for assuming ALL Internet Marketers are no better than spammers and scammers!!
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    • Profile picture of the author MisterMunch
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Shame on you for assuming ALL Internet Marketers are no better than spammers and scammers!!
      I know most marketers are good people, and I have a lot of love for the warriors. I just wanted to share my feelings towards these spammers.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by MisterMunch View Post

        I know most markets are good people, and I have a lot of love for the warriors. I just wanted to share my feelings towards these spammers.

        If so, then feel free to change your thread subject to something that uses a smaller paint brush.
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    • Profile picture of the author Susanrh
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Shame on you for assuming ALL Internet Marketers are no better than spammers and scammers!!
      MisterMunch was venting his, and his country's, pain and shock over a horrible terrorist attack.

      If he didn't choose his words carefully enough surely that could have been over looked in the circumstances.

      Of course he didn't mean ALL Internet Marketers, I know that and really so do you. A bit of kindness and understanding would have been a better response. That or none at all.

      My condolences to the people of Norway.

      Susan
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      • Profile picture of the author Goldenboy
        We are all saddened of what had happen in Norway, and I could not really understand why people would do something like that to innocent people. The number of casualties was I think 84 when I checked on the news.
        As for those spammers and opportunists, they might want to consider the event as not the time to use it to make money since what has happened is not the scene or moment to make money out of it. But like they say, a people's loss is another people's gain. But they should not make such events such as what happen, as a source of earning some good money.
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      • Profile picture of the author goodmast3r
        Totally aggree with you Susan. There should also a vote for not liking a post.


        Originally Posted by Susanrh View Post

        MisterMunch was venting his, and his country's, pain and shock over a horrible terrorist attack.

        If he didn't choose his words carefully enough surely that could have been over looked in the circumstances.

        Of course he didn't mean ALL Internet Marketers, I know that and really so do you. A bit of kindness and understanding would have been a better response. That or none at all.

        My condolences to the people of Norway.

        Susan
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Misleading and insulting thread title.

    EDIT: Good change there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Barrington
    Agreed, It says shame on you Internet Marketers, not spammers. It is, indeed, despicable to take advantage of a tragic situation, but at the same time, don't accuse us all of being spammers and scammers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Geez, give the guy a break. English isn't even his first language so don't be so quick to take offense.

      I'm personally horrified that such a civilized and peaceful country as Norway could be attacked in this way, and I agree that people who are exploiting the tragedy are vile.
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  • Profile picture of the author try_hard_samurai
    Your thinking about "Black Hat" marketers. Those folks don't give a flip about anything or anyone unless it means higher numbers in their Paypal account. This forum is a White Hat hang out. So generally speaking folks around here don't engage in those sorts of shenanigans.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I don't know about "marketers" on facebook and twitter - but THIS marketer has been watching the news today with great sympathy for people in Norway.

      I have nothing but contempt for anyone who would be trying to profit from this tragedy.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Van Bretto View Post

      Your thinking about "Black Hat" marketers. Those folks don't give a flip about anything or anyone unless it means higher numbers in their Paypal account. This forum is a White Hat hang out. So generally speaking folks around here don't engage in those sorts of shenanigans.
      In truth, he isn't talking about "marketers" at all. He's talking about "profiteers", those who milk a crisis or tragedy for profit.

      When the karma wheel spins on those scumbags, it's definitely going to hurt.

      In the meantime, our thoughts are with the Norwegian people...
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    I know some black hatters, spammers and even some real jerks that wouldn't use those types of tactics.

    One of the things I have noticed about those that label ... it is usually only spam if they are not doing it themselves.

    Trying to profit off of the misfortune of others in any situation doesn't make you a black hatter or spammer .. it just makes you an insensitive d!ck that doesn't deserve to breath the same air as those that find compassion in these instances.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    That actually happens on Twitter every time a hash tag goes nuts. The spammers crawl out of the woodwork like cock roaches.

    So sorry about the situation there. Truly tragic, but most of the people I know on this forum, would never do that. Many here are a very kind bunch of people who jump in to help out in tragedies and hardship whenever they can.
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  • Profile picture of the author aw
    Pray for those kids in Norway.
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  • Profile picture of the author batchos
    I am sad about events in your country and understand what you are trying to say. While marketers do this thing all the time, it doesn't mean it is right.

    The earlier posters were sympathetic but offended by your language.

    However, I was happy to see the tone of the thread change when others responded with empathy.

    Let's allow our brothers and sisters in Norway to grieve and find peace in this senseless killing.

    God Bless!

    Originally Posted by MisterMunch View Post

    Today has been a terrible day here in Oslo and Norway. Earlier today a bomb exploded outside the govmt building and so far 7 people was killed by the explotion. More are injured.

    A few hours later a man dressed in a police uniform attaced the annual political camp for teens between 11 and 25 at the island Utøya outside Oslo. He went crazy with an automatic weapon hunting down the 500 kids and teens camping there. 9 people are confirmed dead and the body count will probably grow.

    Now I see my fellow Internet Marketers on Facebook and Twitter using #Utøya and related hash tags to promote spam videos. If you are using some automatic tool to spam people, you should know that terror attacs will be trending topics. If this is not done by automation you are just evil.

    We should not use terror attacs as an opportunity to make money or gain followers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Those who choose to attempt to profit from an awful event such as the tragedy in Norway today are not Internet Marketers. They are spammers and opportunists, who place their own personal gain above anything else, including decency.

    I'm sure I speak for the majority, if not all, members of this community in saying that I was horrified and saddened by today's news from Oslo and would never even consider exploiting such a barbaric act for any marketing campaign. And I also despise those who would.

    Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Terrible turn of events in Oslo.

    That being said, how is the news media any better? They make their money off selling advertising that's priced based on the number of eyeballs.

    There's a reason the old saying goes in the newspaper business, "Lead with blood."

    It sells.

    Sad, but harsh reality.
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    • Profile picture of the author tmjoe
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Terrible turn of events in Oslo.

      That being said, how is the news media any better? They make their money off selling advertising that's priced based on the number of eyeballs.

      There's a reason the old saying goes in the newspaper business, "Lead with blood."

      It sells.

      Sad, but harsh reality.
      A good point you have got there. A person's pain is another man's gain - that how it goes nowadays. My deepest condolence to the people of Oslo.
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  • Profile picture of the author MisterMunch
    Thank you for all the support! There are now 84 registered deaths on Utøya and they are still searching the water around the island. 7 was killed by the Oslo bomb.

    The terrorist (at least on Utøya, but probably also Oslo) was a right-wing norwegian 32 year old male.

    I made the original post to help some people reconsider their marketing tactics, and express my feelings towards these methods, and not to address internet marketers in general.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    That is a part of IM - for the few with absolutely no scruples at all.. He's not saying it = Warrior Forum or members here, and he isn't saying its all members here either.

    As others have said, its black hat IM: shady and morally loathsome. But that is IM for those who choose to profit by exploiting the tragedies of others through internet marketing.

    I do IM but I don't condone that kind of IM. That is the behaviour of cockroaches with no moral compass and no concept of simple decency.

    -Spyder
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  • Profile picture of the author SeasideMarketer
    Absolute scumbags are the marketers who are doing these types of shenanigans
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