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Long tail DOmain

by speedylikesKJ
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so i have been messing with domain buying since one month bought some domains , still confused i have discovered another domain from a very high competitive niche XX(two words) its main keyword has 550,000 EXACT Global monthly searched and what domain i have found is some thing wheretobuyXXXX.com for suppose this XX is old cars so domain i found will be wheretobuyoldcars.com and this keyword all domain has 320Exact Global searches what you think i should go for it or not and also if anyone can guide me important aspects to remember while buying a domain that will be great !!!
#domain #long #tail
  • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
    Any One there for help ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Smith
    Hey buddy, having the keyword in your domain is a very important part of SEO... but remember it is not the only part.

    I find that aslong as my keyword is in the domin, then that will do fine. Also remember when you set up your website to change the permalinks to %postname% as this will help with your keywords being in your domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcruz
    I'm not sure exactly what the question is, but if your asking if you should buy exact match domains of course you should. Try to go for exact, if not say the keyword is webuycars.com, your next option would be we-buy-cars.com, then if not go for webuycarsx.com, works well. Google has a natural spell check so it assumes the x is just mispelled. Also don't just always go for .com, ideally it would be nice to always go with a .com, but .net, .org work just as well.

    I'm going to tell you one thing if you are competing for a keyword with 500,000 exact searches, it doesn't matter wheter you have an exact match domain, don't get me wrong it will help. But your going to be building backlinks for an extensive period of time, regardless if it is a exact match domain because of the how competitive the keyword. How many competing pages does it have? I'm pretty sure it's high. I suggest you go for something a little less competitive especially if your first starting out. I don't know if you have a huge bankroll, and some super duper seo skills but i would stay clear of this one. I'm not trying to discourage you but just letting you have an idea of what your getting into.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    First off an exact match domain name is the keyword you are trying to rank for and nothing else.

    For example if your keyword is summer lawn care... then your EMD would be summerlawncare.com, .net, .org, etc. You can also use hypens--however this practice is best used to domains that you are utilizing a search engine to get most of your traffic.

    Once you start adding prefixes or suffixes your EMD turns into just a regular ole domain that happens to have a keyword in it.

    In my experience utilizing a suffix is better than using a prefix. For example if summerlawncare.com and various other TLD extensions are unavailable I will search for a hyphenated version. There are several ways to go about this (using the aforementioned keyword).

    summer-lawn-care.com
    summer-lawncare.com
    summerlawn-care.com

    If that fails I will then move onto suffixes.

    "101" and "Today" are the ones I utilize the most.

    summerlawncare101.com
    summerlawncaretoday.com

    If the keyword is uber competitive (meaning that none of the above options work) I simply move onto another keyword.
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    • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
      Originally Posted by BloggingPro View Post

      First off an exact match domain name is the keyword you are trying to rank for and nothing else.

      For example if your keyword is summer lawn care... then your EMD would be summerlawncare.com, .net, .org, etc. You can also use hypens--however this practice is best used to domains that you are utilizing a search engine to get most of your traffic.

      Once you start adding prefixes or suffixes your EMD turns into just a regular ole domain that happens to have a keyword in it.

      In my experience utilizing a suffix is better than using a prefix. For example if summerlawncare.com and various other TLD extensions are unavailable I will search for a hyphenated version. There are several ways to go about this (using the aforementioned keyword).

      summer-lawn-care.com
      summer-lawncare.com
      summerlawn-care.com

      If that fails I will then move onto suffixes.

      "101" and "Today" are the ones I utilize the most.

      summerlawncare101.com
      summerlawncaretoday.com

      If the keyword is uber competitive (meaning that none of the above options work) I simply move onto another keyword.
      thanks for reply . lets say main key word is "summerlawncare " i just added where to buy in it and it turns into wheretobuysummerlawncare.com
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    Try to use EMD. If you see anyone else get your EMD, try to find other keywords. You wouldn't like to be max No. 2 right?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Too much competition on a lot of these domains, I wish all those people would stop buying all the domains I want
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    I have an exact match domain for a 5 word long tail secondary keyword and G loves it. New domain, 2 articles (newest is a week old), Some onsite SEO, no back-linking on this one at all yet. No offsite SEO period at this point. And its top of page 3. My primary and secondary keyword are close enough that I settled for the secondary as a .com when I couldn't get the primary as a URL.

    The articles are original and take a bit of time to write (especially with my efforts split across two brand new domains), so I'm going to focus solely on the content side while continuing to tweak the onsite SEO and other aspects of the site itself. It'll be interesting to see how it does with this pure content & onsite SEO approach first, before I begin doing offsite SEO. Both sites are content driven, but I'm experimenting with a different approach on each (learning by doing and experimenting).

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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Do you get any traffic top of page 3?
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    • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Do you get any traffic top of page 3?
      Only if you count bots The secondary keyword isn't one I'd otherwise put any effort into as it doesn't get the volume of traffic my chosen primary keyword does. Its a close match to the primary, though, and its been interesting to see it shoot to the top of page 3 with 2 articles, onsite and on page SEO, and nothing else.

      My future efforts will be aimed at targeting the primary keyword which is the main goal. I'll still make some use of the secondary, but its not the focus. The site is PR0 and with a PR/NA site on page 1 of the SERPs for that secondary keyword I figured I'd start with the goal of bumping him off for that keyword, which I expect to do soon enough with the exact match URL, onsite SEO, and some supplemental use of that secondary keyword, but focus otherwise on my primary.

      Its a very new domain. Its only broken through the top 100 in the past week but its since been climbing the SERPs on that keyword pretty fast. From page 8 (once it hit the top 100 on G) to page 5 a couple days later to page 3 as of 2 days ago where its holding the top spot there.

      Alexa ranks it in the top 17% which is a complete mystery to me as well, as its not based on anyone providing traffic feedback to Alexa from their toolbar (which I don't use either - I know its Alexa rank from SEOquake and using website grader from HubSpot).

      At any rate, its been interesting to observe what some original content, onsite SEO, and an exact match URL can achieve on their own. Its encouraging for when the additional content goes up and I start doing some offsite SEO. Also kind of proof of concept: you learn more from taking the plunge and testing ideas than any amount of reading what others think about this or that (because none of them agree with each other). That info is very useful as thought fodder and ideas to further tweak and refine, but in the long-term I think you go further and learn more by blazing your own trail than by looking for cookie cutter recipes and following other's breadcrumbs.

      Not implying you are doing this, by the way, just to be clear there. Only that I see a lot of the "follow the leader" approaches and fewer who are willing to dive in and build their own highway. I opt for the latter

      The only way to really know whether your idea is workable is to test it out. You'll learn more from doing so as well and can refine and experiment as you go.

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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Tip for searching kws/buying domains

    Look at the top 5 what comes up in google when you enter in quotes "" the kw combo
    "lawn care" for example

    See if the sites are actively targeting that kw combo or they just used it in their title and are doing that with 100s of kws yet are too lazy to buy the domain

    ARe the kws used in the titles (lawn Care)
    Do the sites use Lawn Care in their domain name?
    Do they use it in the descriptions

    Also
    If for example the .com and .net Are already gone
    dont assume those are competition
    go enter
    lawncare.com or lawncare.net or lawncare.org
    into the address bar
    see if there are actual sites there

    If there are no sites or the site comes up saying "this site is parked courtesy of Godaddy"

    BINGO, the domain is parked
    Google will not index parked domains so you can throw that site out as possible competition

    so if there are only a few domain extensions taken already, go enter those in the address bar manually and see if the domains are parked. YOu can find some gems that way. (that is if .com and .net are parked and everything else is available. you really have a decent chance of going to a high ranking for google, assuming other factors are in your favor)
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  • Profile picture of the author Spyder77
    I use Market Samaria for keyword research. There are several good search tools online for domain research. The better ones will not only let you know the availability for all TLD possibilities, but also suggest alternative domain names as well. Its time consuming, but feeding the keyword research into Market Samaria and then plugging the domain suggestions in and doing keyword research on those is my method.

    Its been learned and refined gradually. Once the site is blue-printed, developed, and the main content is done along with enough SEO, its just a matter of keeping it updated and then $10 buys a new domain to develop.

    I have a couple months of work ahead of me (and maybe longer) before I'm ready to tackle more domain name research though. One site is progressing beyond my expectations, while the other is going to require more time and effort but is in a good niche where it can do well enough to make it worthwhile.

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