Help, Advice, or Black Magic for a Newbie

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Hi there Warriors!

My name is Will. I'm a Ph.D. student living in London, a semi successful percussionist, and a four time failed internet marketer. I'm coming up on the end of my studies and thus the end of student loans and grants. I make money sometimes from my performances, but it comes in waves - severe waves. I'm literally starving and almost three months behind on rent, struggling not to get my internet turned off.

What I'm looking for is a side business which I can operate from home that will allow me to pay my bills, at least in part, that I can nurse from nothing to something and leave for short periods of time if I need to do so. Pretty typical goals, I suspect, although perhaps my problem is that I've always been shooting low, not going for super high incomes.

What don't have is a good plan, a direction, and capital.

What I do have is time, energy, and the internet. I've tried making pages, writing articles, twitter marketing, offline marketing, picking niches that interest me and some that don't. Sadly, entertainment niches usually are not very lucrative, but that may not be the worst thing in the World, if any money at all was to be made. Thus far, I have made about $22USD per six months off of one niche I marketed through articles about three years ago. All of my other ventures since then have failed even worse. Regardless, I also have incentive and drive. I'm not one to give up, but I am one to switch plans when the first tries don't work.

For what I am asking:

Advice and mentorship. Chances to test out methods or solid focused directions in which to travel, so to speak, such that I don't get bogged down in reading a thousand ebooks and never make any money. Something that is not a get rich quick scheme (unless there is one, but I doubt that exists), but shows profits within a short-ish period of time so I don't get discouraged. Help to help myself not have to each a loaf of 47p bread over three days because I can't afford anything else.

Barring that, black magic is acceptable...

I'm not asking to have someone do the work for me, but I obviously need serious instruction. If I didn't, I would be making at least some money by no, having tried to do this for years now. I have specific goals in mind, including income per week, month, and year, the number of hours I expect to work initially and once the business/marketing is set up, and the potential "rinse and repeat" approach that may instigate another similar sized in flow of funds to layer over the previous one(s).

Any thoughts, warriors? Sorry to bother you all with this, but you're obviously doing things correctly and I'm floundering and I know when it's time to swallow my pride and ask for assistant. That time is now.

Any advice you can give or offers to test out methods would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!

Thanks in advance and good luck to you all!
Will

P.S. If I have misunderstood where this discussion should go and I have posted in an incorrect thread, please let me know and I will move it to the correct one. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
    BTW, feel free to post here or PM me.

    Thanks!
    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author RobCopywriter
    Offer your services on fiverr, maybe something to do with you being a precussionist or whatever your good at! There is alot of potential there!
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by RobCopywriter View Post

      Offer your services on fiverr, maybe something to do with you being a precussionist or whatever your good at! There is alot of potential there!
      Thanks for the advice, but as far as I know Fiverr is only a US service and I live in London now. I tried using Fiverr before but it didn't work for me long distance. Still, I will re-visit the site and see if there is something I can do long distance, especially if it is percussion related.

      Thanks again!
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      • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
        Originally Posted by King Seesar View Post

        Thanks for the advice, but as far as I know Fiverr is only a US service and I live in London now. I tried using Fiverr before but it didn't work for me long distance. Still, I will re-visit the site and see if there is something I can do long distance, especially if it is percussion related.

        Thanks again!
        Quoting myself here for Rob:

        I was wrong. Fiverr has changed since I last tried to use it. I have just signed up for a UK account and although I don't know exactly what I can offer yet, I'll come up with something and see what happens.

        Cheers Rob!
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  • Profile picture of the author Margo Tuul
    Do you have any skills? Are good with Photoshop? Programming? Anything else? Check out Warriors for Hire section. Maybe you can do something there?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Hi,

      Fiverr is for anyone with a Paypal account, so you could do something there. You have to wait at least 2 weeks to withdraw your money, though.

      In your position you should probably be looking for something offline just to pay the bills. As far as online goes, try to split your time between working on your sites (for long term income) and providing services of some type (for immediate cash flow).

      I've PMed you.
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      • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
        Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

        Hi,

        Fiverr is for anyone with a Paypal account, so you could do something there. You have to wait at least 2 weeks to withdraw your money, though.

        In your position you should probably be looking for something offline just to pay the bills. As far as online goes, try to split your time between working on your sites (for long term income) and providing services of some type (for immediate cash flow).

        I've PMed you.
        Hi Gail!

        Yeah. I just figured out that Fiverr is no longer restricted to the US. I have to be able to work from home at the moment due to various issues, including my travel budget (that doesn't exist) and I still have to write my thesis (I have two months left to turn in two more chapters, so working at home is essential currently) being the two biggest reasons. Still, if there were something within walking distance I would consider it, but in the UK you get paid monthly and that would mean I would have to work two months before I got paid, which I cannot afford to do at the moment. Good suggestion, though, and I will definitely be working on a Fiverr attack plan today!

        Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by Margo Tuul View Post

      Do you have any skills? Are good with Photoshop? Programming? Anything else? Check out Warriors for Hire section. Maybe you can do something there?
      Hi Margo!

      I used to work for a photoshop plug in company demonstrating their software at international trade shows. I am whip out a drop shadow like crazy, but as for other computer skills, I'm not so well versed. No programming experience since I had to use punch cards writing fortran in the mid 80s.

      I will definitely check out the Warriors for Hire section and see if I can offer anything of value! Cheers for that suggestion!

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  • Profile picture of the author commoditytrainer
    It sounds like you would like to have some mentorship in internet marketing, and SEO for your niche markets. It is commendable to come out and ask for it and admit your faults. Most of the recommendations from previous post are well said. We are in progress to open a new Seo firm. Could you please PM me and specifically state your skills, what were your failures, and what you though may have been successes? Make sure to have bullet point only please, right to the point. Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by commoditytrainer View Post

      It sounds like you would like to have some mentorship in internet marketing, and SEO for your niche markets. It is commendable to come out and ask for it and admit your faults. Most of the recommendations from previous post are well said. We are in progress to open a new Seo firm. Could you please PM me and specifically state your skills, what were your failures, and what you though may have been successes? Make sure to have bullet point only please, right to the point. Thank you.
      Thanks! I will PM you as soon as I have responded to all of these fabulous replies.

      Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Delarox
    If you need quick cash, maybe offer an article writing service. Native English writers are in demand and get away with charging slightly more. You could also offer some sort of percussionist gig on fiverr maybe?! offering audio intros for video marketers (just an idea) or if you have a good voice, offer video/ audio voice over gigs...(americans love the british accent) Yep, i know its not something that will make you rich but will get you back on your feet... then plan upwards from there
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by Delarox View Post

      If you need quick cash, maybe offer an article writing service. Native English writers are in demand and get away with charging slightly more. You could also offer some sort of percussionist gig on fiverr maybe?! offering audio intros for video marketers (just an idea) or if you have a good voice, offer video/ audio voice over gigs...(americans love the british accent) Yep, i know its not something that will make you rich but will get you back on your feet... then plan upwards from there
      He he he! Actually, I'm a good ole southern boy from the states living in the UK, and trust me, no one here likes a southern accent! Luckily my girlfriend is the exception to that rule...

      I wrote a tonne of articles on EZine Articles and Helium, all of which rated very well, but none of which seemed to convert to any sort of cash or transactions. Apparently, my writing is well presented and informative, but not marketable and enticing for those whom need to be encouraged to spend money. I like writing and I would happily crank out articles if I the subject matter was something with which I was familiar enough to write fluently, but I may need help getting my style to be productive for a buyer.

      Fiverr in the works now.

      Thanks Delarox!
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  • Profile picture of the author atomiccloud
    If you are any good at article writing I would offer your services here and other places. There are several websites that allow you to take writing jobs and pay okay prices.

    This allows for fast(ish) income for now. Then I would build niche sites and monetize with adsense (or build affiliate sites) for long term passive income.

    Also if you can do anything else such as photoshop, web design, programming, SEO, etc. that would allow u to offer ur services. Selling services is probably the fastest way to make money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by atomiccloud View Post

      If you are any good at article writing I would offer your services here and other places. There are several websites that allow you to take writing jobs and pay okay prices.

      This allows for fast(ish) income for now. Then I would build niche sites and monetize with adsense (or build affiliate sites) for long term passive income.

      Also if you can do anything else such as photoshop, web design, programming, SEO, etc. that would allow u to offer ur services. Selling services is probably the fastest way to make money online.
      Hey there Atomic Cloud,

      Yeah. I agree. There are two ways to approach income - offering services or products and services seem to be lower capital and never ending resources and you do what you do well and get paid for it. I definitely prefer going that route.

      As for writing, see my post above. I have been successful in terms of rankings when writing articles, but not in terms of conversions, which is more important to someone paying for the service. Sadly, too, there's a limit to people wanting articles on drums, ethnomusicology, making noise with homemade and found objects, and the acoustics of video game sound design. If there weren't, I'd be doing fine by now...

      Still, great ideas and I will look into writing and the warriors for hire section to follow that up.

      Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author wiseme11
    I would suggest that you shall look into your website content seriously. How big is this kind of niche ? No result, it could be promoting on the wrong niches or products. Who are the people like the horror and science fiction stuffs like that ? Students ? Kids ? Can they afford to pay for your products ? Restructure your niche and product..you may see the new light shine again. Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by wiseme11 View Post

      I would suggest that you shall look into your website content seriously. How big is this kind of niche ? No result, it could be promoting on the wrong niches or products. Who are the people like the horror and science fiction stuffs like that ? Students ? Kids ? Can they afford to pay for your products ? Restructure your niche and product..you may see the new light shine again. Cheers
      Very wise, Wiseme11!

      Yeah, I ditched those attack plans a while back because they never once converted. As a matter of fact, the only niche in which I have ever converted was online tattoo designs. I wrote a tonne of articles and made websites and posted on tattoo forums and facebook and taped sandwich signs to unsuspecting passers-by to advertise and drive traffic to my hoplink, and I make about $22 every six months on click bank with the same article from EZine every time. It's the only one that every did anything for me and I don't fully understand way, as the format and wording and even the subject matter is fairly similar to all the other tattoo articles I wrote that are tremendously less read.

      I will have a rethinking of what niche would keep my interest, afford me a level of intelligent interjection when promoting it, and convert better than the movies niche. Perhaps my methods weren't so bad, but rather my choice of niche. I do feel that it is extremely necessary to be able to talk knowledgeably about your niche. Nothing turns me off more than when I read about something and it's obvious that person has no clue about of that which they speak/write. I would fail even worse if I tried to write about stuff that was beyond me, I suspect. Anyway, the point is you're right and I'll try something new.

      Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author spennyc
    Really try to focus your efforts in an area you love like a "Learn to Play Drums Clickbank Product". Video tape a bunch of lessons with yourself playing drums and market the product. Have someone in the warriors for hire section create a nice sales page for you. Best of luck with everything!
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by spennyc View Post

      Really try to focus your efforts in an area you love like a "Learn to Play Drums Clickbank Product". Video tape a bunch of lessons with yourself playing drums and market the product. Have someone in the warriors for hire section create a nice sales page for you. Best of luck with everything!
      Hey there S Penny C!

      I did try that, actually, but again, I must have been approaching it incorrectly. I tried two clickbank products - one that was a drum lesson package and one that was a music composition programme that was embedded online. I sort of liked the drum package, but I quickly fond that my articles and discussions of it were actually outside the package, so I had to sort of tone down my teaching descriptions and cater to what the package offered and that seemed to kill any chance of sales that I may have had.

      Then the software package was simply out of my circle of music and I didn't promote it well, I think. I tried hard on this one too, using videos, and making really nice websites and posting in relevant online discussions, et cetera. All I ever got was complaints that the software didn't do what I was told it would do by the company and the one person that did buy it, ended up getting his money back. Yikes! I chalked that one up to me not having a clue, even within my own field of interest - the music was just too far removed from my personal performances that I couldn't discuss it intelligently and it all went awry.

      And sadly, I cannot afford to hire nayone to make a page for me at this time. I have to do it myself. It will be much harder and longer because of the learning curve, but paying someone to do it is out of my reach currently. Maybe after a few conversions or Fiverr gigs...

      You are very right, though in think that I need to stick with something I know and love and I will go have a rethink of a new niche to attack.

      Thanks again! Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
    Hi everyone! Thank you for so many replies, all of which have value! Cheers!

    I'll be responding individually and via PM where appropriate or asked to do so.

    Thanks again!
    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author laustinseo
    If you have any knowledge of SEO, creating a site for a particular niche, for example, loans, optimize your site and increase the conversions. Then use your site as an affiliate site and let the leads be sent to another company, all this really takes is SEO work and after you have the affiliate signed up the rest is just done automatically , all you have to do is keep the site up on Google
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by laustinseo View Post

      If you have any knowledge of SEO, creating a site for a particular niche, for example, loans, optimize your site and increase the conversions. Then use your site as an affiliate site and let the leads be sent to another company, all this really takes is SEO work and after you have the affiliate signed up the rest is just done automatically , all you have to do is keep the site up on Google
      Hi Lewis!

      I do have some SEO knowledge, although I feel like the more I learn about it, the quicker it becomes out of date or I get presented with conflicting opinions and methods. Still, this a good advice. As others pointed out above, it may not be my SEO that needs work, but my niche selection, but having up-to-date SEO skills and using them is paramount for getting traffic and I do need to make sure this is how I approach setting up any new sites I may generate.

      Cheers and thanks for the tip!
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  • Profile picture of the author laustinseo
    It is always important to know as much as possible about SEO (especially if your using it) but it is also essential to think of a useful niche. Try to think about who would be paying for these leads and how much they could potentially make from them, you want to be aiming up at those who can afford to buy these leads as well, for example loans. I wouldn't suggest this term as it is very competitive on Google, but i assume you get the rough idea of what i am driving at.

    I hope i helped Will, let me know if you need any other help
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by laustinseo View Post

      It is always important to know as much as possible about SEO (especially if your using it) but it is also essential to think of a useful niche. Try to think about who would be paying for these leads and how much they could potentially make from them, you want to be aiming up at those who can afford to buy these leads as well, for example loans. I wouldn't suggest this term as it is very competitive on Google, but i assume you get the rough idea of what i am driving at.

      I hope i helped Will, let me know if you need any other help
      Thanks Lewis!

      Yeah. That seems to be my biggest downfall - expecting the fun niches to be the ones in which there people that also have money to spend. Basically, there's just not that many bad movies fans, noise music fans, or cacti gardeners out there... Seriously. Those are all things I've tried. Writing that out, I can see it's no wonder I failed so miserably.

      So yeah. Good point Lewis. I'll stay in touch and post what I decide to tackle next.

      Cheers!
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      • Profile picture of the author laustinseo
        I look forward to hearing your progress king seesar, if you need any help dont hesitate to contact me
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    I suggest writing a few ebooks on what you know and market it. From that you will learn things that most people don't because they have not marketed their own product. I think that's why most IM newbies fail....they shoot for roof not paying attention to the foundation.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
      Originally Posted by Jordan Stark View Post

      I suggest writing a few ebooks on what you know and market it. From that you will learn things that most people don't because they have not marketed their own product. I think that's why most IM newbies fail....they shoot for roof not paying attention to the foundation.
      Hey there Jordan!

      I think I shot for the floor and got the basement! But, yes, knowing how to market is essential and doing it from scratch is the best way to learn. I learned about running my own book shop by just buying one that was going out of business and pulling it out of the depths of no profits then selling it when it was at a peak. It was a great thing for me to have done and if I had the capital, I may consider doing something similar, but alas, at the moment I do not.

      As for writing about what I know, I'm not sure if anyone would pay for an ebook on contemporarily build medieval-style instruments and their influence in the neo-medievalist gothic music scene (that's my Ph.D. topic) or how to make dark ambient sound tracks by playing items stolen from your own kitchen (which is basically what I do outside of cyberspace). I could be wrong. Perhaps my interest in cacti gardening would be a better start? A great suggestion, but I would really need some mentoring do pull off a "from scratch" project that involved writing my own ebook and marketing it. I'm willing to try, though! At least if it is something with which I am familiar and in which I am interested, I would have the drive an the knowledge to see it through to some level of productivity.

      Any suggestions on where to track down general guidelines for creating and selling ebooks?

      Thanks again Jordan!
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    Special thanks to Gail for getting me some writing assignments and reading my backlinking blurbs. Cheers Gail!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by King Seesar View Post

      Hi there Warriors!

      My name is Will. I'm a Ph.D. student living in London, a semi successful percussionist, and a four time failed internet marketer.
      You have a special place in my heart.

      As a former dancer, I had a lot of modern classes with a great percussionist.

      If this is a true hobby of yours, I would recommend you poke into it a bit further as a niche to entertain.

      You can sell loops of percussion, or even put together programs for dance instructors to buy who can't afford to have a live person in the room.

      That just kinda hit me off the top of my head.
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      • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
        Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter View Post

        You have a special place in my heart.

        As a former dancer, I had a lot of modern classes with a great percussionist.

        If this is a true hobby of yours, I would recommend you poke into it a bit further as a niche to entertain.

        You can sell loops of percussion, or even put together programs for dance instructors to buy who can't afford to have a live person in the room.

        That just kinda hit me off the top of my head.
        Hi there Jill and thanks for the empathy and kind words!

        Being a percussionist isn't a hobby, it's what I do offline to pay bills. I have been playing drums and other percussion since 1977. I have worked for the Amsterdam School of Music and Dance, The Place (a dance school) in London, the Governor's School of the Arts in North Carolina, the dance department of University of Hawai`i, and, of all things, a course for Dance and English language in Lhasa, Tibet, China. Working with dancers is definitely part of my background experience.

        Sadly, what I don't have is a way to record cleanly at home (it sounds ridiculous, but I live in such an old house and such a loud part of town, that every recording I make has buses and street noise in the background). At the moment, which perhaps is even worse, I don't even have the funds to get public transport. Tonight I have a rehearsal for which I am getting paid (YAY!) and I will be walking about two miles through London with my equipment to get there. That'll change, of course, but I'm not looking forward to tonight for that tiring reason...

        Anyway, your suggestion is excellent! I would gladly record backing tracks for dancers! I am sure I can find someone to record me for cheap or free if I can just get there, but what to do with the tracks once I get them? How does one market to the dance world? I guess I can figure that one out too, actually. This is a pretty good idea, especially for a longer term business idea that utilizes my percussion capabilities. Of course, whenever I work with dancers, they always have live music (and they would do, if I'm there, of course), but I think that's mostly the case here in London, however, marketing to folks outside of London and online may be just the thing, right?

        Thanks ever so much Jill! A superb idea! I won't have time to start working on that today, perhaps, but I will try to make a plan for that and see how I get on. Nice one Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
    Originally Posted by alyonafrendo View Post

    May I suggest you stick around in the warrior forum, read the posts here, ask questions and ACT on the information you learn. I was once where you are now, today I have a succesful offline publicity company (employing 2 full time + 6 part timers) and a succesful internet marketing business to compliment that too
    Hey there Alyona!

    Believe me! I have been lurking in these forums for a while and I am trying to act on the advice and methods posted throughout. I think I have either given up too easily or that I chose methods that were not right for me, et cetera. I certainly do not blame anyone else. I feel I definitely have the drive to make something successful, I just haven't found what that is yet. I have owned my own business in the past, I have worked on and offline for years paying the bills, until now, so I guess I am in a state of panic not being familiar with this down-and-out situation. It'll sort out, as it always does, bt I just don;t want to ever be in this situation again nor do I want to just pay my bills, but rather have a thriving business or two and get on with life. I'd say that's pretty much what warrior wants.

    Thanks for your encouragement and congratulations on your success! Cheers! Off to do more research and get started...
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    • Profile picture of the author Itachi
      You could make a website about your hobby(or could be on anything) where you give tips to peoples willing to learn drums(there should be alot) Find decent keywords in this niche, find a monetization technique for your website, the "usual pro tip" would be to eventually make a report and give it away to build your list, you could have a drum review section on your website too, with affiliate links, hope this helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author King Seesar
        Originally Posted by Itachi View Post

        You could make a website about your hobby(or could be on anything) where you give tips to peoples willing to learn drums(there should be alot) Find decent keywords in this niche, find a monetization technique for your website, the "usual pro tip" would be to eventually make a report and give it away to build your list, you could have a drum review section on your website too, with affiliate links, hope this helps.
        Hi Itachi!

        That's a pretty great idea, too! I have my own domain (willconnor.co.uk) and I haven't done anything with it yet because I just don't have the skills. Now is the time to learn, though, and that's an interesting idea. I would have to tweak that plan to make it work for me, but as Lord Sugar says: that's what a business plan is for - to tweak so it will work.

        Maybe I can combine that idea with Jill's idea from above and Gail's encouragement to write, and I think it was Robert's idea for an ebook (or was it? Sorry. Getting mixed up now...) The point is these are all great ideas and I can potentially combine them to make them a unique site and service that may hold water in the long run.

        Cheers all! Good stuff. I'm working on a longer term thing here, now, which is the best thing, but it isn't going to get me out of this slump before I get kicked out of my house. Still, it's fabulous and I appreciate all your help! For those of you that PM'd me, I'll get back to you soon, probably later today. Keep the advice coming and thank you all so much again!
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          Remember you can also outsource writing, if you don't have alot of cash you could ask peoples you know that are potentially good writers to write for you(plus you're from UK), I've been thinking to outsource my writing to my sister but im not sure what she will think of working for me lol.
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            Originally Posted by Itachi View Post

            Remember you can also outsource writing, if you don't have alot of cash you could ask peoples you know that are potentially good writers to write for you(plus you're from UK), I've been thinking to outsource my writing to my sister but im not sure what she will think of working for me lol.
            Hey there Itachi!

            Actually, writing is the part I like best and I am quite keen to do the writing myself. For that matter,let me know if you need some writing done and I will send you some samples or direct you to my EZine Articles page or my Helium Articles profile, et cetera.

            Thanks for more tips! Cheers!
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    Good luck with offering services. I think I tell at least 5 people a day its the easiest way to make money online.

    Is it easy? No

    Does it take time? Yes

    But is it pretty much guaranteed? Yes!
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      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      Good luck with offering services. I think I tell at least 5 people a day its the easiest way to make money online.

      Is it easy? No

      Does it take time? Yes

      But is it pretty much guaranteed? Yes!
      Hey there Justin!

      Yeah. I agree! I've been PM'd about writing and that's been going well. Apparently, my writing skills are not too bad! I am definitely a musician and that's the niche around which I should be generating my services, but writing seems to be working for me and I am working on a Ph.D. after all, so maybe that's a good direction for me as well! As long as I can pay my rent! It's looking bad, but I have to keep trying...

      Thanks Justin! Cheers!
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