Do you smell of raw meat every time you go into the WSO forum? (Protect yourself...)

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The WSO Forum -- like any marketplace in the world -- has a couple sharks lurking in it. And then you make the faux pas of visiting the forum wearing your Lady Gaga meat dress. Ooops, it's not hard to see that this isn't going to end well.

Here's my point...

Over the years I've read about people getting ripped off repeatedly -- not just here, but all around the net. Some lose a few dozen bucks. Some lose hundreds. Some lose their shirts.

And then there are others who never get ripped off. They love every WSO they buy. Every freelancer they hire in the "Warriors For Hire" section delivers great work on time. They hardly if ever even have to ask for a refund on anything they buy.

What's the difference between these two groups of people? Well, for starters, members of the second group don't wear meat dresses when they go swimming. And here are three other ways this group is different. They:


1. Have a business plan -- and stick to it. Before you even think of going into the WSO forum, come up with a business plan. No, really. Because the more focused you are about what you need for your business, the less likely it is that you'll purchase the next bright and shiny thing you see.




2. Turn off the heart and switch on the head. Yeah, I know -- those sales letters are incredibly good at tapping into your emotions and seemingly switching off some of your logic. But you can make a choice to think logically about any offer.

For example, a writer comes on the forum and offers "high quality" 10,000 word ebooks for $100 (paid in full upfront) with a 72 hour turnaround. Suddenly the thread fills up with dozens of people saying, "I'll take it!"

Those who let their emotions rule will see all the social proof and say, "I'll take it too!" They send off their $100 and wait. (Psst: They'll be in for a looooong wait.)

Those who think logically about the offer will wonder how this writer can offer "high quality" at a penny a word. With a 72 hour turnaround. With dozens of others already in the queue.

This person keeps his money in his pocket. And good thing, too, because dozens of buyers either end up spending months waiting for their product (best case scenario), or they spend months chasing after the writer AND they lose their $100 to boot.




3. Do research. This is the big one. Those who don't get ripped off do their due diligence... OR they simply never spend an amount they can't afford to lose.

For example, it doesn't make sense to spend an hour researching a seller over a $5 report. But if you're going to buy that $5 report from an unknown seller, then you be better be prepared to lose the cash.

(And if you can't afford to lose $5, get the heck out of the WSO forum and get a job. No, really. I mean it. Start making money rather than spending it.)


Now, if you're buying something that you consider expensive -- or if you're looking to hire a freelancer for a long-term project -- then it makes sense to do your due diligence.

Here are some common yellow flags (proceed cautiously) and red flags (keep your money in your pocket and run like hell):


-- The seller is new. I don't care how many posts s/he has or how many thanks s/he has racked up. Some WF members have a "system" for getting a lot of posts and thanks right off the bat, in an effort to boost credibility. Yet they've only been on the forum for a few weeks.

Here's the thing: People who've only invested a couple weeks in building their reputation on this forum aren't going to be worried about losing it. Some of these folks churn and burn their way through multiple WSO accounts.

Now, take someone who's developed a good reputation either off the forum or has spent a good chunk of time doing so on the forum. This person's reputation is an asset. And he's not as likely to take your $100 and run, because his good reputation is worth more than that.





-- The seller has lots of one liners and "calls to action" for other people to thank him or her. This person is trying to build credibility, but in a superficial way, by boosting post count and "thanks" numbers. Better to find someone who's building credibility by being a valued, contributing, helpful member of this forum.





-- The seller doesn't participate outside the WSO forum. And that means that you don't have any post history to see if this person is a valued, contributing, helpful member.





-- The seller is fairly anonymous. In other words, you can't find any evidence that this person exists outside this forum.




-- The seller has other WSOs that didn't end well. Enough said.





-- The seller seems to have a new personality. Maybe, just maybe, the original person who owned this aged account sold it to some slimeball.

It goes something like this: The original member started an account three years ago and makes several good posts. Then silence for a long period of time. Suddenly this account is posting again -- but something isn't right.

For example...

The person who used to post three paragraphs minimum now only posts one liners. The person who used to have perfect English suddenly can't string a sentence together (or vice versa). The person who used to sign his posts "Jack" suddenly starts signing them with a different name. Ooops.

Run, WSO buyer, run. (And report your observations to the mods.)





-- The reviews are all superficial. If you see reviews like: "Wow, good work!" and "Neato, great read!" ... ignore 'em. They really don't tell you anything.





-- You don't know the reviewers. A WSO gets several good reviews, but all the reviewers are new members. Hmmm. Fishy.





-- Many reviews were all posted soon after the WSO launches. You'll see WSO sellers trying to pad the first page or so of their WSO threads with good reviews. They hand out the WSO review copies to a bunch of people, launch the WSO, and tell their reviewers to post their comments.

Of course these reviewers were hand-picked by the seller, and the reviewers got something for free, so there may be some bias there. Of course you can't know that for sure, as some of the reviews will be honest.

Here's a hint: Read ALL comments on the thread. So if a thread is five pages long, don't just read the first page and hit the order button. Read through to the end... you might be surprised by what you see.





-- The seller is advocating something illegal/shady/etc. Have you ever seen something like this: "Here's how to rip off someone else's YouTube video, rebrand it and make a fortune with it!" If so, keep your wallet in your pocket and report your observations to the mods.






-- There's income proof. And claims of easy money. And promises that if you just follow this system, you too will be rich.

Fuhgetaboutit. Stop looking for the magic button and start building a business. That one tiny bit of advice will save you a LOT of money this year.






-- Your gut is telling you to run. Something doesn't feel right, but you're tempted to hit the "buy" button anyway? Don't. Listen to your gut. Run. You do NOT need this WSO.



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It's not a complete list, but it's a good start.

~Becky
#forum #meat #protect #raw #smell #time #wso
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Good post!

    So I guess in summing up... just use your common sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      Good post.

      So I guess in summing up... just use your common sense.

      DANG! I could have just posted that and saved my fingers a lot of typing. D'oh.

      Of course common sense just ain't all that common though, is it?

      ~Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
    Great post, if it was up to me I would make it a sticky post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Mmmm, bacon. Oops, that's not raw meat. :p

      -- The reviews are all superficial. If you see reviews like: "Wow, good work!" and "Neato, great read!" ... ignore 'em. They really don't tell you anything.
      Actually, they speak volumes. If there isn't at least some kind of ratio of substantial reviews to superficial reviews it paints a clear picture.

      And remember, the number one way to tell if you're getting your money's worth or getting the straight scoop is the amount of white space between paragraphs. More = better.

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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    If it was up to me, people wouldn't even need a post like this. (Meaning they either knew this stuff, or marketplaces around the world were all sunshine and kittens.)
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Awesome post Becky - members should print it out and read it before each purchasing decision!

      I'll add one more, paraphrasing something John Taylor wrote a couple of years back:

      "Don't allow vendors to decide when it's best for you to buy something or drive your purchasing decisions."

      To expand on that:

      A. If it's only available today, don't buy it.
      B. If it's not in your budget, don't buy it.
      C. If you have to charge it, don't buy it.
      D. If you cannot implement by tomorrow night, don't buy it.
      E. If it's outside your normal business model, don't buy it.
      D. If you haven't waited a couple of days (cooling off), don't buy it.
      F. If no one has commented about successfully replicating the process...do NOT Buy it!

      Excellent addition!

      I think if people learn to set aside their emotions and start using their noggins to make purchase decisions, they'll save money and be much happier with their purchases.



      @Bill -- yep, you got it. If the review talks about how easy it is to read the product, that's not a helpful review... unless the product is a novel.

      Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author Britt Malka
    One liner: Great post! Keep up the good work!

    Nah, only joking. I never do one liners. However, this is a great post!

    What I really hate is when I look at an interesting WSO, a lot of the first comments are of this type: "I'm in - you always deliver the best", or "this is really a no-brainer", or "Cannot wait to read".

    Why the f... (oups, nearly said something nasty there) don't they wait with their useless comments till they actually have read or watched, and have something intelligent to say about the product?

    There should be a law against WSO comments from people who hasn't reviewed the product.

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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Britt Malka View Post


      What I really hate is when I look at an interesting WSO, a lot of the first comments are of this type: "I'm in - you always deliver the best", or "this is really a no-brainer", or "Cannot wait to read".
      It works great for the sellers, because they get that social proof factor going. But it's yet another reason why buyers should ALWAYS dig deeper into the comments (past page 1 or 2) to get past the superficial and meaningless stuff and get into the more meaty comments.


      Dixi ;-)

      LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Wilson
    Awwww, Beckster ...

    You just HAD to bring up "common sense" stuff again, didn't ya?


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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Rick Wilson View Post

      Awwww, Beckster ...

      You just HAD to bring up "common sense" stuff again, didn't ya?


      Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel
      Yeah, I know. I figure if I bring it up enough, maybe it WILL actually become common!

      Oh wait. Sorry, I nodded off there for a moment and was just dreaming.

      Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    The problem with any digital product (pdf, wso, etc...) you have no idea what your buying.

    It's like walking into an offline store & every single item in the store is in a plain white cardboard box, they all look the same & you have no idea whats inside.

    50/50 gamble at best.

    At least at an offline book store you get to look inside the book, before you buy.
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post


      At least at an offline book store you get to look inside the book, before you buy.
      That's a good point, and something sellers should consider. They could:

      -- Post a text, audio or video excerpt of their product.
      -- Offer free demos on software.
      -- Post samples on service ads.


      Some folks already do this, of course. A peek inside the product can actually be a good form of proof. Better than the "hey, neato" testimonials.

      (And yeah, I realize it's not feasible for everyone... especially those selling $5, 5-page reports that outline one solid technique.)

      Becky
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      • Profile picture of the author wisdom57
        Thanks, Thanks, Thanks! Learned a lot from you... almost everyday, when I login to WF, I will straight away check what new products were launched in the WSO forum... Actually this is the first time I've visited this forum... tired of my buying frenzy and want to start with all over again. With all the WSO I've bought, I would say only 30% of it I have implemented... I'll just have to concentrate one at a time, and see what works and not... though I know it will slow me down instead of earning me money.. but hey... this is a learning experience for me... Just have to stick with my 8 to 6 job and do this as a part time for now... once I see some steady stream of income... move on to the other WSO!!!

        Thanks again for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author barache
    Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

    -- The seller seems to have a new personality. Maybe, just maybe, the original person who owned this aged account sold it to some slimeball.

    It goes something like this: The original member started an account three years ago and makes several good posts. Then silence for a long period of time. Suddenly this account is posting again -- but something isn't right....

    ~Becky
    Boy does this have the ring of truth!! I've seen exactly the same thing.
    And suddenly the articulate person can't string two sentences together.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Excellent post. Only one slight problem: It's target audience is raw meat; unfortunately raw meat does not like to read that much...

    But maybe a few of them will stumble in here, read it and be saved from being eaten.

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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by wisdom57 View Post

      . With all the WSO I've bought, I would say only 30% of it I have implemented... I'll just have to concentrate one at a time, and see what works and not... though I know it will slow me down instead of earning me money.. but hey... this is a learning experience for me... Just have to stick with my 8 to 6 job and do this as a part time for now... once I see some steady stream of income... move on to the other WSO!!!
      Actually, you may be pleasantly surprised to find that it doesn't slow you down. Sometimes you move much more quickly (and earn more) when you focus 100% of your attention on just one thing at a time.



      Originally Posted by barache View Post

      Boy does this have the ring of truth!! I've seen exactly the same thing.
      And suddenly the articulate person can't string two sentences together.

      That kind of stuff gets the ol' skeptical eyebrow going up every time. Report it to the mods if you see it.



      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      Excellent post. Only one slight problem: It's target audience is raw meat; unfortunately raw meat does not like to read that much...

      But maybe a few of them will stumble in here, read it and be saved from being eaten.

      HP
      Indeed. I realize the OP seems waaaaay tooooo looooong, but I thought it would be a disservice to eliminate tips/advice just to keep it short. So, I opted to bold the important parts so that the skimmers can get the gist, while those who like reading more details are kept happy, too.

      Amelle,

      Thanks for the post. I really loved your analagy about the lurking sharks and the buyer wearing a meat dress. I will keep that in mind next time I get brave enough to go the WSO section!!
      Kind of gives you a good visual, eh? Jaws, anyone?


      Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author Amelle
    Becky,
    Thanks for the post. I really loved your analagy about the lurking sharks and the buyer wearing a meat dress. I will keep that in mind next time I get brave enough to go the WSO section!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Precision
    Anytime I see a website telling me I can make $$$blah blah blah amount in blah blah blah days I translate that to "run away fast." I say, "never pay for a service you can do for yourself." The only person who truly cares whether or not your successful is you, so your always going to put more effort into putting quality links in relevant places and writing quality articles for your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author azmanar
      Hi,

      Great advice... Becky.

      Out of the scores of WSOs I've bought, I got ripped off only once. And I felt like being ripped off once.

      Lucky ... eh ? Maybe I did due diligence on most but was careless and impulsive on the 2 occasions. Being human ... so its alrite.. to make mistakes.

      I didn't ask for refunds but I avoid the creators like a plague. No matter how many rave reviews or who made the reviews for their newest WSOs, won't budge me at all.

      Well... I'm a bit unlucky as well. In the 10 months in WF, I've only got 4 review copies... lol ... I've seen lots and lots of people ( junior or senior ) getting review copies. They are either very quick or their expected reviews are credible.

      After considering my situation, I joined W+ subscription to get luckier.

      There, I get to see the latest offers and how people respond to offers - number of sales, conversions and refund rates.

      Most importantly, the stats indicate subject matters people like most, which gave me some ideas on what to focus in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken
        Also remember, scammers fear questions. They don't like the idea
        of having you expose holes in their dreamware.

        Before you buy, ask questions. If they get angry or will only
        communicate by PM, move on.

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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by dangle View Post

          Thanks for posting this! Really common sense stuff that you may forget about when the cha ching starts goin off in your head! My head spins when I enter the WSO forum, but luckily I still smell like perfume.
          LOL! But you're right, it's the head spinning that gets folks in trouble.


          Originally Posted by azmanar View Post


          Lucky ... eh ? Maybe I did due diligence on most but was careless and impulsive on the 2 occasions. Being human ... so its alrite.. to make mistakes.
          To err is human. To learn from one's mistakes is divine. (Or something like that. )



          Originally Posted by Ken View Post

          Also remember, scammers fear questions. They don't like the idea
          of having you expose holes in their dreamware.

          Before you buy, ask questions. If they get angry or will only
          communicate by PM, move on.

          Ken
          Like shining a light on a cockroach -- "oooh, look at it scurry!"

          Another excellent addition to this thread.

          Becky
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          • Profile picture of the author Britt Malka
            Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

            To err is human. To learn from one's mistakes is divine. (Or something like that. )
            And to mooo is bovine... (Auch, couldn't resist!)
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            • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
              Originally Posted by Britt Malka View Post

              And to mooo is bovine... (Auch, couldn't resist!)
              LOL


              Originally Posted by krikkod View Post

              You should turn this post into a WSO

              Hmmm...

              "Who Else Wants to Save $38,385.17 This Year?"
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Mr Precision View Post

      Anytime I see a website telling me I can make $$ blah blah amount in blah blah blah days I translate that to "run away fast." I say, "never pay for a service you can do for yourself." The only person who truly cares whether or not your successful is you, so your always going to put more effort into putting quality links in relevant places and writing quality articles for your site.
      I think that's how Bill Gates became a billionaire. By doing everything himself.
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  • Profile picture of the author blueonblue
    Your post is right on the money and I find that it is not just here, but also currently on the worlds largest seller of Internet Crap--Click Bank. There is so much garbage on there and of course the newbie doesn't know the difference, they don't understand how to build a real successful business, going after evergreen products/niches and not the latest method that may be obsolete in a few weeks or the black hat method for "gaming" facebook or google that may be closed in a few days or weeks.

    I started looking at all the strange comments going on here also. People with 100 posts selling WSO's and you have no idea if they work. I have bought a few myself that were bad and have asked and gotten refunds.

    I have had some selling systems (how to get backlinks, etc), and decided rather than spend the money, maybe have it done myself and LEARN something. I recently downloaded a book of niches. Some of these niches are VERY overcrowded--believe it or not, while caring for tropical fish never gets more than 3500 hits a month, they have millions of pages, or the guy who says make a mini site dedicated to body building methods of a star, write an article and then sell a body building product--I have no idea if the star uses that product or if it will even do what he says--I don't want to lie.

    The people on clickbank (especially in our niche), give a nice story, but NEVER tell you what the product really does or how to do it. But for the newbie they see the pretty girls, the rented jet, the rented Lamborghini and their eyes light up, so you really can't blame them.

    Avenues like Clickbank, really need to police their sites and the people on WF who take one should be more discriminating. They say, I'll take one and post a review for you. 9 times out of 10 they don't post that review.

    The one offering the WS0-I saw one today, how did he start, by showing you his click bank and other affiliate accounts. Then he had a video of testimonials (how much did he pay his affiliates). Not one person ever said they have made money off of this.

    There are hundreds of WSO for facebook, google, whatever. These days, I am taking the free stuff and learning from it. I am settling for 3-4 niches, maybe using blogging and some free websites like Wix where I can learn from these things what works and doesn't work, etc.

    I have learned to tell which products from CB are BS and which aren't and am deleting the "gurus" who recommend those products, even when the WF itself has people letting us know it is S^&*. If you promote S(&# to me, I will delete you.

    So, try 1 method, see if it works, if it doesn't move on. If something works but not an entire system, go with that and tweak things. Maybe the way a guru said it would work would, but maybe it's not the method, but the implementation. Try until you find it, and then rinse and repeat. And then, help others!

    IMHO!
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Originally Posted by Mr Precision View Post

    Anytime I see a website telling me I can make $$ blah blah amount in blah blah blah days I translate that to "run away fast." I say, "never pay for a service you can do for yourself." The only person who truly cares whether or not your successful is you, so your always going to put more effort into putting quality links in relevant places and writing quality articles for your site.
    I agree with your "blah blah make $$$ blah blah" comment.

    However, as a person who's been on both sides of the counter with regards to outsourcing, I respectfully disagree with regards to not outsourcing. I can get so much done faster by hiring competent people to help me build my business.

    However, I certainly understand where you're coming from with regards to others not caring about your business as much as you. The key then is to find a freelancer who cares VERY DEEPLY about his or her own freelancing business. Because that person is going to give you his/her absolute top-quality work, because s/he wants your business again.



    Originally Posted by harlank44 View Post


    The people on clickbank (especially in our niche), give a nice story, but NEVER tell you what the product really does or how to do it. But for the newbie they see the pretty girls, the rented jet, the rented Lamborghini and their eyes light up, so you really can't blame them.

    Harlank -- the above is an excellent addition to this thread! If the seller says "it's not this and it's not that" --without saying what the product actually is about -- run.

    Excellent point and good post.



    Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

    OP I had to just jump in and say 'props' - I literally LOL'd reading the thread title.

    Warrior see Warrior do baby.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Precision
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      I agree with your "blah blah make $$$ blah blah" comment.

      However, as a person who's been on both sides of the counter with regards to outsourcing, I respectfully disagree with regards to not outsourcing. I can get so much done faster by hiring competent people to help me build my business.

      However, I certainly understand where you're coming from with regards to others not caring about your business as much as you. The key then is to find a freelancer who cares VERY DEEPLY about his or her own freelancing business. Because that person is going to give you his/her absolute top-quality work, because s/he wants your business again.





      I do agree with what your saying, and what I should have also said was that- the exception for me is quality, but reasonably priced link building when it can save you valuable time. Automatic article submission software for example can also be worth the investment in my opinion, because it can save time. It also depends on the content of the site too, because what works for one may not work as well for the other. However from personal experience, I paid for a very expensive link building campaign from a major phone company that supposedly would guarantee me traffic. Put simply it did not work. So 3 weeks ago I began learning SEO myself. At the time I was somewhere between the 5th and 8th page on google for my keywords and virtually invisible. It was about 2 weeks ago when I actually started working on SEO and thats when I actually started to see a difference. I'll admit that they aren't the hardest keywords to rank for, but the fact that I moved from page 5 to 2 in a week is a testament to my hard work and not theirs.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    This is an excellent post for newbies. I liked your post’s title, and the content.

    I could say that there are many sharks at the Warrior forum even far from the WSO region.

    As a matter of fact, the same happens in most websites, and in the offline world.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandman123
    Could I add one more "Do NOT" to the list of what to be aware of when entering the Warrior forum.
    Be aware of how many Jack Daniels you've absorbed before you click that Buy Now button.
    I've bought a couple after a few JD's and come back to them the next day sitting on my desktop and sat there thinking .. "Oh, no .. another one"
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by clever7 View Post

      As a matter of fact, the same happens in most websites, and in the offline world.
      Agreed -- it happens everywhere. CraigsList, eBay, the open-air market in your neighbhorhood.


      Originally Posted by sandman123 View Post

      Could I add one more "Do NOT" to the list of what to be aware of when entering the Warrior forum.
      Be aware of how many Jack Daniels you've absorbed before you click that Buy Now button.
      I've bought a couple after a few JD's and come back to them the next day sitting on my desktop and sat there thinking .. "Oh, no .. another one"
      Ooh, now I have an idea. Next time I run a WSO, I'm going to offer cheap shots at the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author dangle
    Thanks for posting this! Really common sense stuff that you may forget about when the cha ching starts goin off in your head! My head spins when I enter the WSO forum, but luckily I still smell like perfume.
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    You should turn this post into a WSO
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Great post Becky, in fact, I can only find one thing wrong with it ... following your instructions requires thinking. That ain't gonna happen for the meat dressers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Afreidman
    All I have to say is WOW!

    I think your post is AMAZING.

    I think I have spent perhaps 500$ or even more (who's counting) on WSO's in the past.

    And I have purchased many with my heart and not with my head.

    It took me a while to understand that WSO is an amazing section of this forum.
    You just have to be focused on exactly what you are looking for and what you need.

    It's like a child in the candy store, you may be sometimes overwhelmed by the amazing and shiny treats offered by the "candy" vendors.

    Thing is, if you don't want to lose your teeth you should buy only what you need.

    and...
    don't forget to brush your teeth when your done! (hehe)

    Wish all warriors success,
    Ari
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    • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Great post Becky, in fact, I can only find one thing wrong with it ... following your instructions requires thinking. That ain't gonna happen for the meat dressers.
      Hmmm, maybe I should post a Warrior for Hire ad...

      "Let Me Do Your Thinking For You!"

      Dear Warrior,

      Brain cells feel like they're going to burst? Does just hearing the "T Word" give you a headache? No worries! Because now you too can let your brain go to mush when you hire a professional thinker to do all your thinking for you!



      Originally Posted by alyonafrendo View Post

      Great post, altough I must say that 90% of the ebooks and information you find there are really of an exceptional nature, and most warriors provide much better info. and material than what so-called internet marketing gurus sell out there!

      And...

      Originally Posted by Afreidman View Post

      All I have to say is WOW!

      It took me a while to understand that WSO is an amazing section of this forum.
      You just have to be focused on exactly what you are looking for and what you need.

      Yes, when you do even two minutes of due diligence, you tend to find the exceptional WSOs.

      ~Becky
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
        Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

        Hmmm, maybe I should post a Warrior for Hire ad...

        "Let Me Do Your Thinking For You!"

        Dear Warrior,

        Brain cells feel like they're going to burst? Does just hearing the "T Word" give you a headache? No worries! Because now you too can let your brain go to mush when you hire a professional thinker to do all your thinking for you!

        ~Becky
        Becky,

        I just got a new hard drive I need to fill up with stuff so it will look like a good investment.

        Any chance I could get a review copy of your thoughts so I can load that puppy up?

        ~Bill
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        • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
          Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

          Becky,

          I just got a new hard drive I need to fill up with stuff so it will look like a good investment.

          Any chance I could get a review copy of your thoughts so I can load that puppy up?

          ~Bill

          Sure, no problem. Or you could just download a few books by Jack Handy, because my thoughts are at least as deep and meaningful as his.
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          • Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

            Sure, no problem. Or you could just download a few books by Jack Handy, because my thoughts are at least as deep and meaningful as his.

            I love Jack Handy!

            Here's an original that I made up the other day:

            And now for Deep Thoughts by Will Knecht...

            "If you're ever showering after your workout at a 24hr Fitness or some other kind of large gym and you drop your washcloth on the drain...

            ... forget about it man, cause it's gone."
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      • Profile picture of the author Britt Malka
        Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

        Hmmm, maybe I should post a Warrior for Hire ad...

        "Let Me Do Your Thinking For You!"

        Dear Warrior,

        Brain cells feel like they're going to burst? Does just hearing the "T Word" give you a headache? No worries! Because now you too can let your brain go to mush when you hire a professional thinker to do all your thinking for you!
        LOL

        Ooh, we still need that LOL-button. When I Allen Says going to notice my wishes for it?
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  • Profile picture of the author yborware
    great advise. If you don't read it sorry. You will be back to read it after you have been duped. John
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  • Yeah... it's amazing what good copy will do to tug on the purse strings...

    Another thing I also find amusing lately are the wild sales videos that seem to have excessively cinematic introductions with helicopters and fancy cars zipping around. Have any of you seen the sales video for "The Illuminati?" Hysterical!

    ... remember: real internet marketers don't buy products - they make them and sell them... LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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    Phrases that give me the sh*ts:

    "All I can say is WOW!"

    "I didn't even read the copy... I just bought it!"

    Other warning signs:

    Promises you something "impossible"... like people who claim everything can be put on "autopilot".. and you find out you can - if you hire freelancers. *FACEPALM*

    ... and lately, a certain WSO that promised you get "bumps" for "free"... but fail to mention you need to mooch off other people which is highly unlikely to happen.

    Other WSO buddies who come in to give their 2c worth about how great the seller is without even looking at the offer itself.

    And since we're all bitching about it, there's a few characters who I see on like literally EVERY WSO... usually trying to make the seller give up a review copy because there's no "proof". Subtly, of course... they've mastered the art of misdirection.

    Ansar
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        There are two types of people that buy WSO's

        The guys that just buy for the sake of buying looking for the holy grail. They normally never take action and come in here and whine about how all the WSO are scams.

        Then....

        you have the guy that buys the first WSO and takes action and tests everything.

        I have many of these customers that buy my WSO...and I love them. Infact one of them sometimes emails me and teaches me. LOL.

        So take this with a grain of salt, but its up to the buyer and how much action they take. There are soem killer WSO's but 2% of the time someone will actually buy and take action.
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