Did any Warriors ever hire a writer to create a eBook product?

13 years ago

I have outsourced creation of product but normally only do this when it is not something that I know a lot about. If it is a product that you KNOW about i.e a technique, process then it is best you write it as you have the knowledge.

If it is something like "How to be a maser at quantum physics" it is best to get someone that knows the subject if you know what I mean?

As long as you research though, it is always a gamble but you can outsource creation of products, yes.

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chri5123

I have outsourced creation of product but normally only do this when it is not something that I know a lot about. If it is a product that you KNOW about i.e a technique, process then it is best you write it as you have the knowledge.

If it is something like "How to be a maser at quantum physics" it is best to get someone that knows the subject if you know what I mean?

As long as you research though, it is always a gamble but you can outsource creation of products, yes.

Chris

Thanks for your reply Chris. Yes thats makes sense if you don´t know much about the topic it can save you time and effort by outsourcing to an expert.

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Mike Hill

13 years ago

In the past I have hired someone to ghost write an ebook for me in a non-internet marketing niche and here are my experiences:

1. Create a layout of what you want included in the book.
Do some research and create a table of contents from what people in your niche want to know.

2. Keep it simple.
Don't let your ghost writer guess at what you want. Keep the table of contents simple, you can always change the chapter titles later.

3. Send an overview video with a complete description of what you are thinking about for this project.

4. Invite any and all questions the ghost writer may have about the project and be able to be contacted easily.

When I received my ebook I went through it, added additional content to it, made it flow how I wanted and spent time on a quality layout of the content.

It's always a good idea to edit the ebook once you get it and polish it to your own specifications.

That's what I've done in the past and everything worked out great. I didn't have the time to write the product nor did I know much about the niche. Well at least not enough to write a quality product myself. But when I got the ghost written book I did some more research to add more information and my own personal flare.

Be weary of a ghost writer using PLR material purchased from somewhere else. This can be a problem but if you conduct your due diligence this will not be an issue.

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Alfredo Carrion

13 years ago

I like to outsource my content (including articles and ebooks) because my english is terrible; there are great writers in the Warriors for Hire section (I really enjoyed working with warrior Monika Mundell).

Mike give you some really good advice in his post, follow it and you'll be ok.

And, please, when choosing a writer, don't go for the cheaper one, because you could end waiting months for your ebook or with a crappy ebook nobody will want. I'm talking from experience, lol.

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alfredo Carrion

I like to outsource my content (including articles and ebooks) because my english is terrible; there are great writers in the Warriors for Hire section (I really enjoyed working with warrior Monika Mundell).

Mike give you some really good advice in his post, follow it and you'll be ok.

And, please, when choosing a writer, don't go for the cheaper one, because you could end waiting months for your ebook or with a crappy ebook nobody will want. I'm talking from experience, lol.

Thanks for the tips. I will have a look at Monika Mudell. Thanks for the recommendations

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Great advice Mike Hill. Thanks these are definatly points I will keep in consideration if I do decide to hire a writer.

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GregSilva

13 years ago

I'm also interested in having some of my product creation outsourced in the future. Thanks for the tips here everyone!

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WebsiteDeck

13 years ago

I actually prefer to write things myself, its the only way I can remain sure that everything that goes in the book is perfect according to my specifications - although I would have no problem hiring someone to spice up the look of the ebook. I would just want to do the content of it myself.

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WebsiteDeck

I actually prefer to write things myself, its the only way I can remain sure that everything that goes in the book is perfect according to my specifications - although I would have no problem hiring someone to spice up the look of the ebook. I would just want to do the content of it myself.

This seems like an honest way to do business. If you are an expert in a subject then I think its a good idea to write it yourself. I have however read some interesting threads on this forum about outsourcing and really wanted some warriors opionions on how much they would outsource. Thanks

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Rose Anderson

13 years ago

I have written a lot of ebooks for other people and I would 2nd what Mike said.

Make sure they know exactly what you want. Keep in contact with them if you want to see on-going drafts. Tell them which web-sites you're wanting to promote.

Give them a reasonable time-frame to work with. Especially if they're doing all the research for you.

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rose Anderson

I have written a lot of ebooks for other people and I would 2nd what Mike said.

Make sure they know exactly what you want. Keep in contact with them if you want to see on-going drafts. Tell them which web-sites you're wanting to promote.

Give them a reasonable time-frame to work with. Especially if they're doing all the research for you.

Thanks Rose, I had a look in your signature and you seem to be offering a good deal. You haven´t however linked it to a service thread?

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geraldsoh

13 years ago

Maybe you can hire some ghostwriter at elance.com or odesk.com. there are 1000s of writers and ghostwriters there to choose from. u can view their stats, reviews etc to justify how good they are before you hire them.

cheers!

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by geraldsoh

Maybe you can hire some ghostwriter at elance.com or odesk.com. there are 1000s of writers and ghostwriters there to choose from. u can view their stats, reviews etc to justify how good they are before you hire them.

cheers!

I have hired from oDesk before but I find it really hard to find good writers there. You get sooooo many bad ones. Even when you ask for native english writers you still get a load of people who arnt native english applying.
I will look on the forum here for someone not oDesk.

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Jill Carpenter 13 years ago

Has anyone ever used this service? I consider myself a pretty good writer but don´t have much experience with copywriting

Be careful not to confuse a copywriter with a content writer.

While there are some cross breeds out there, they can be two different animals.
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- NicoleBeckett 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter
  
  Be careful not to confuse a copywriter with a content writer.
  
  While there are some cross breeds out there, they can be two different animals.
  
  Exactly... an ebook full of copywriting isn't going to provide a whole lot of value (really, can you imagine reading 20 or 50 pages of sales copy?? I sure can't!)
  
  What you need is someone that can write an ebook based on solidly-researched facts (that truly gives your readers answers and solutions that they didn't have before they started reading). You can always get a copywriter to help promote the book, but leave that style of writing for promotion, instead of the meat of your book
  
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jbsmith 13 years ago

I have often outsourced portions of our info products to others, but never the entire project....I like to make sure there is still a personal aspect to my products that makes them different than those of generic info products on the market.

There are a few techniques I've used.

1. Outsource a chapter or two - I've done this as outsourced articles with very precise questions to be answered. If you outsource sections of your ebook as "article" projects you can reduce the cost significantly. The key is to make sure your outsource freelancer knows you want specific content (send them a question by question outline) as they are often used to doing SEO (keyword focused) general articles which don't make for good content.
I typically look for people that have experience AND writing ability with the topic so they can add their personal touch to the ebook as well

2. Interviews - I have also created entire ebooks as well as enhanced with chapters that were the transcription of a telephone interview with an expert. That way they don't have to write, they talk and you get dozens of pages of great content

3. Public domain. On occasion I have found historical works in the public domain that enhance my ebooks., For example, one ebook I wrote was on a specific benefit of Yoga (applied to a common societal problem) and I wanted a short chapter on the history of Yoga...I found that quickly in the public domain, cleaned it up and used it for that chapter.

Hope that helps,

Jeff
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- Tina Golden 13 years ago
  
  A lot of people who write decent articles tend to get the heebie-jeebies at the idea of writing an entire ebook - and it's not that hard!
  
  The key is to start with a really good and detailed outline. Once you have that, each point is like writing one article. You can even skip around while you're writing it.
  
  When you're finished, go back and read it. Add in some introductory or transitional writing if necessary to make it flow. Make sure there is an introduction to the concepts discussed in the book at the beginning and a conclusion at the end.
  
  Once that's all set, you can dress it up with graphics/photos/screenshots, tip boxes, etc.
  
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Ansar Pasha

Banned 13 years ago

IMO, if you're just starting out, it might be a little much to drop a few grand getting your products sorted.

You might even try finding some quality PLR and rewriting it the way you speak so it's not dry and boring like most PLR's are... however, if you can afford a good writer, go for outsourcing.

Ansar

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ansar Pasha

IMO, if you're just starting out, it might be a little much to drop a few grand getting your products sorted.

You might even try finding some quality PLR and rewriting it the way you speak so it's not dry and boring like most PLR's are... however, if you can afford a good writer, go for outsourcing.

Ansar

I will definatly try it myself first time around. I think I am a pretty good writer I just wondered if people actually did outsource product creation. It may be something to consider for the future.

Thanks for all your advice.

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travin69

13 years ago

I just did this. I hired someone from fiverr.com to do the research for 5 dollars. Made a rough design and then hired 99cent to make it original. It is worth it. You can focus your time on website, sales copy, ect.

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Reverb

13 years ago

Originally Posted by travin69

I just did this. I hired someone from fiverr.com to do the research for 5 dollars. Made a rough design and then hired 99cent to make it original. It is worth it. You can focus your time on website, sales copy, ect.

Can I ask, what's 99cent? Thanks.

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theory expert

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Reverb

Can I ask, what's 99cent? Thanks.

I think he may have meant this.

Logo Design, Web Design and More. Design Done Differently | 99designs.com

OP you ask great questions. I enjoy reading what people responses will be to your threads.

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Reverb

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Team X

I think he may have meant this.

Logo Design, Web Design and More. Design Done Differently | 99designs.com

OP you ask great questions. I enjoy reading what people responses will be to your threads.

OK, thanks for the answer and link.

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TracyNeedham

13 years ago

On the flip side of having written ebooks for people, I can tell you one of the advantages of having someone else do it (as long as they know what they're doing LOL) can be...

--Making sure the ebook helps build your relationship with the customer and helps you build your business in other ways

--Making sure you've covered exactly what it takes to do something (if you've done it a lot yourself, you'll often assume people know how to do things) and/or explain things a total newbie might not know

--Pointing out other ideas and content that would make it even better--especially faster and easier for your customers

--Giving you ideas for bonuses and add-ons that increase the value of your ebook (so you can charge more)

--Etc.

Can you tell I love info product creation? LOL I actually created a WSO with Mark Hess on this very topic because it's one of my favorites!

Anyway, if you do write it yourself, keep those things above in mind--maybe you can have friends or family who don't know the topic go through it and give you some ideas for what needs to be added and whatnot.

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BabyMama

13 years ago

Great to hear it from a writers POV. Thanks for that Tracy.
Its a great point about making sure to include every point to doing something. I have found when I was a newbie that a lot of products tended to miss steps that were vital. As a newbie there is so much that needs to be outlined.

Originally Posted by TracyNeedham

On the flip side of having written ebooks for people, I can tell you one of the advantages of having someone else do it (as long as they know what they're doing LOL) can be...

--Making sure the ebook helps build your relationship with the customer and helps you build your business in other ways

--Making sure you've covered exactly what it takes to do something (if you've done it a lot yourself, you'll often assume people know how to do things) and/or explain things a total newbie might not know

--Pointing out other ideas and content that would make it even better--especially faster and easier for your customers

--Giving you ideas for bonuses and add-ons that increase the value of your ebook (so you can charge more)

--Etc.

Can you tell I love info product creation? LOL I actually created a WSO with Mark Hess on this very topic because it's one of my favorites!

Anyway, if you do write it yourself, keep those things above in mind--maybe you can have friends or family who don't know the topic go through it and give you some ideas for what needs to be added and whatnot.

Thanks

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BabyMama

13 years ago

I think actually the 99cent they were refering to is a service offered in the warrior for hire section that offers articles for 99cent.

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taniharjo 13 years ago

Originally Posted by BabyMama

I think actually the 99cent they were refering to is a service offered in the warrior for hire section that offers articles for 99cent.

99cent for articles? how bad can it be?
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