by bross
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Hey,



What do you think about attacking this niche. How popular is this in US and what are chances to succeed?
#astrology
  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Isn't that what Keyword research is all about, so you can easily find out all the questions you just asked?
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  • Profile picture of the author David A Griffiths
    Depends on your star-sign!
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  • Profile picture of the author ZachWaldman
    Market porno instead, it's a more honest business.

    There are so many markets, why choose one that requires you to make up fairy tales?

    I bet if you were to market to skeptics, you'd find smarter people with more money. How about a book titled, "How to Convince Your Grandmother She's Being Ripped Off By Her Psychic/Astrologer?"

    Who knows if there's a market. The point is, you don't know what the market is like for your idea. Since you have to do the research, why not spend your time researching something that can save old ladies a couple of hundred bucks a month?

    Houdini did quite well debunking psychics, mediums, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author KimW
      Originally Posted by ZachWaldman View Post

      Market porno instead, it's a more honest business.

      There are so many markets, why choose one that requires you to make up fairy tales?

      I bet if you were to market to skeptics, you'd find smarter people with more money. How about a book titled, "How to Convince Your Grandmother She's Being Ripped Off By Her Psychic/Astrologer?"

      Who knows if there's a market. The point is, you don't know what the market is like for your idea. Since you have to do the research, why not spend your time researching something that can save old ladies a couple of hundred bucks a month?

      Houdini did quite well debunking psychics, mediums, etc.

      Your statements show you really don't know much about the subject. As far as if there is a market, I'm not naming names but there is one very well known member of this board that I believes makes good money from the market and he is as honest as the day is long.


      Also, while you are correct Houdini made good money from debunking psychics and mediums,which Astrology does not fall into that category, he also spent years trying to prove they did exist, in an effort to contact his mother, who passed away unexpectedly. And after Houdini's sudden death his wife Beth spent years trying to contact his spirit.

      To the OP, if you honestly know about Astrology and don't try to defraud people, I wish you the best of luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author cynthea
        Originally Posted by KimW View Post

        Your statements show you really don't know much about the subject. As far as if there is a market, I'm not naming names but there is one very well known member of this board that I believes makes good money from the market and he is as honest as the day is long.


        Also, while you are correct Houdini made good moeny form debunking psychics and mediums,which Astrology does not fall into that category, he also spent years trying to prove they did exist, in an effort to contact his mother, who passed away unexpectedly. And after Houdini's sudden death his wife Beth spent years trying to contact his spirit.

        To the OP, if you honestly know about Astrology and don't try to defraud people, I wish you the best of luck.
        Kim, Until you posted, I thought that all intelligent life was gone from the Forum and that Zach's response couldn't have been any sillier, or more rude.

        People, why write inane posts about subjects you know nothing about?

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        I heard somewhere else that all star-signs are shifted wrong because of the precession
        That is a hoax that surfaces almost annually. For some reason this year it got more press than usual. Probably from folks not doing their homework and from all this misinformation about, and interest in the Mayan calendar. Just a guess.

        You'd be amazed at the number of CEOs who consult astrologers, or have their wives consult, because they don't want to risk being labeled a doofus. I've found it very valuable for timing re: product launches and project launches. But then, I like keeping those secrets to myself. Oops - now I'm spilling...

        This thread has been funny. I forget how uninformed some folks are...and so quick to spout off on subjects they know nothing about.

        lol. Glad today to be living in Santa Fe, although one does need a fair amount of discernment to avoid the quacks on every corner.

        Happy Leo New Moon everyone!!

        And to the OP -- Just like in any IM niche, you have to sort through 85 - 90% of the crap to find the Real Deal 15%.

        Personally, I'd prefer not to see more crap... Choose a niche you're passionate about. Cheap astrology sites are a nickel a dozen.
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  • Profile picture of the author amritrr
    Astrology will work anywhere in the world. Research suggests, people are naturally inclined to believe in God and things like fate etc. No logic is needed when it comes to faith you see.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Then there is Merlin's Yellow Page ad...



    He also has this printed on the side of his truck.

    Nice guy, I've had him do plumbing for me over the years. Right before I write the check he makes me very sleepy, very relaxed, and I forget how much I make out the check.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author appointmentscript
    i believe in astrology
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    • Profile picture of the author ThorstenD
      I heard somewhere else that all star-signs are shifted wrong because of the precession. So using a time server should be taken into consideration.

      But clearly, as astrology on television makes money, it certainly works on the web. Nevertheless, you should carefully research and plan so that it is not going to be a blind shot.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The window of opportunity is wide open for right now because Uranus is in Aries, beginning May 28 2010 and fully departing March 6 2019. (That is unless the Maya were correct with Earth's expiration date of 2012).
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          The window of opportunity is wide open for right now because Uranus is in Aries.
          Beginning May 28 2010, and fully departing March 6 2019, that is unless the Maya were correct with the expiration date of 2012.
          Well thank God Aries isn't in Uranus!

          You can make money in this niche although you'll have to find a USP
          that makes you different than all the other sites out there.

          Have a Great Day!
          Michael
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            LOL! This is really a big-ass market. You can get a lot of attention and publicity just by debunking the myths.
            I've made a very good living with my USP of pissing people off, then selling them scientific Amazon books.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              You can get a lot of attention and publicity just by debunking the myths. I've made a very good living with my USP of pissing people off, then selling them scientific Amazon books.
              That's my next niche taken care of, then ...
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  • Profile picture of the author viscoa
    You would have to do some research to see how often that word or words related to that are searched. You can use the Google keywords tool to help or even look at Google trends... There is no way to know for sure you will just have to begin searching for some stats. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Adams
    Astrology huh .. so when they read their daily horoscope, it will say

    "this week has been unkind to you, now is your time to go and splurge on yourself .... start here www(dot)myaffiliateoffers(dot)com"
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Like any other niche, you have to specialize a little. I haven't researched this lately, but astrology must be super competitive. You have to think about something more specific, like Chinese Astrology, love signs, astrology for careers, even astrology for pets -there must be a market for that nowadays!
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Astrology is huge. You could do extremely well in it without ever going near daily horoscopes or anything questionable or outside your ethics or comfort zone.

    It would appear that some on this thread have a problem with giving people what they want. That's what marketing is all about. For example, a clever artist or graphic designer might create some unique images of the different star signs and put them on T-Shirts, mugs, etc. Maybe the work is so distinctive the artist becomes rich and famous. Maybe they end up doing custom work for celebrities.

    I think I'd much rather be involved in something like this than making empty promises to naive people about how they can make tons of money on autopilot with little or no effort. :rolleyes:

    Whether one believes in Astrology or not, there are many who do and some of them spend a fortune on it. Ronald and Nancy Reagan were heavily into it. Hillary and Bill are too. There are millions of people who are, many are high profile folks with massive influence. Are they crazy? I don't know. But that's not even the point. If you're into it don't let anyone try and discourage you. Just Do It.

    And there's plenty of opportunity for people who don't believe. If that's the case, make a clean case for why it's a bunch of baloney and you too will have a massive market to work. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyburdes
    I think that one of the best ways to find out what niches pay and don't is to see what markets other smart people are in. It's a lot easier, and more reliable, vs spending a ton of time on keyword research.

    Eben Pagan has a pretty big site in the Astrology niche, and he's not known for being an idiot - so my guess is that there is probably pretty good money in it if you have an interest in going after it.




    Originally Posted by bross View Post

    Hey,

    What do you think about attacking this niche. How popular is this in US and what are chances to succeed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Tracey
      Astrology works! That is if you've studied it properly and can draw up a horoscope with the planets and rising star in their correct houses.

      But there's more to it than that, I believe not everyone can give a good reading even if they've studied the subject deeply.

      I am firmly of the opinion that the drawing of the horoscope and the studying thereof focuses some sort of ability, call it physic if you will, that enables a fully correct reading of it.

      This is not to say that this is the only reason for drawing up the horoscope or that it is a load of hogwash. Someone who's studied astrology, and who has no special affinity for the subject can still give a surface reading but a correct in depth reading requires more.

      Unfortunately scam artists who have pretended to be astrologers and who have had very little or no knowledge of the subject have partially destroyed it's reputation and led to the 3 line daily newspaper horoscope, or even worse the weekly or monthly one which attempts to place one twelfth of the worlds population in the same box, which is patently ridiculous.

      A horoscope correctly drawn up for a particular person by someone who has a "feel" for the subject can be almost frighteningly accurate.

      However astrology's reputation has been adversely affected by

      FIRST those who without much knowledge have tried to scam people by pretending to be astrologers,

      and SECOND those who with little or no knowledge, or personal experience of a reading by a "true" astrologer, have tried, somewhat successfully, to discredit the subject

      and THIRD By Really devout Christians and others who follow the Old Testament who interpret verses in Deuteronomy , Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel as forbidding astrology.

      Suffice it to say I gave up making "predictions" many years ago due to an occurrence which I felt, although unlikely, could possibly have been someone taking an action to ensure his reading came true.

      I then concentrated purely on character analysis, which after the results of a number of test subjects, a psychiatrist admitted was accurate.

      I gave up astrology entirely about 15 years ago. You would be surprised at the type of people I drew up horoscopes for.

      Michael

      PS: I was never given the names or anything else which could identify the test subjects.
      PPS: I have no quarrel with Christians interpretations regarding astrology. I gave up astrology for somewhat similar reasons.

      PPPS: Astrology on the internet is divided into three types of practitioners: Genuine ones who require full data and draw up a horoscope and read it personally

      Ones who give instant readings via personal data being captured by a program which then spits out a horoscope with what might be an extremely limited but valid reading depending on the program

      Pure scam artists, who are in the majority, I would hope that no-one reading this thread joins them.
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      • Profile picture of the author cynthea
        God i love intelligent people. Thank you to all who took the time to write thoughtful, articulate posts.

        I hope OP got some value out of this thread.

        Much appreciated,
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by cynthea View Post

          God i love intelligent people. Thank you to all who took the time to write thoughtful, articulate posts.

          I hope OP got some value out of this thread.

          Much appreciated,
          Cynthea
          So if we don't agree, then we're not intelligent?

          LOL

          Now we know why things that fall under the umbrella of religion and politics aren't discussed here. And, yes, astrology fits, IMHO.

          All the best,
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          • Profile picture of the author cynthea
            Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

            So if we don't agree, then we're not intelligent?
            Micheal, you funny guy! Where did I say anything about agreeing?

            Thoughtful, articulate -- doesn't matter what your POV is. Just interested in some stimulating dialogue.
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          • Profile picture of the author KimW
            Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

            So if we don't agree, then we're not intelligent?

            LOL

            Now we know why things that fall under the umbrella of religion and politics aren't discussed here. And, yes, astrology fits, IMHO.

            All the best,
            Michael
            Oh come on Michael. To say Astrology falls under the umbrella of religion and/or politics makes as much sense as saying Perry Como is punk. :rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
              Originally Posted by KimW View Post

              Oh come on Michael. To say Astrology falls under the umbrella of religion and/or politics makes as much sense as saying Perry Como is punk. :rolleyes:
              Hi Kim,

              It is a belief system.

              You have to have faith that it works.

              It supposedly governs our lives.

              You can replace the word 'it' in the above sentences with the word 'astrology' or 'religion' and they will stay be true. Note, I am not slamming anyone for their beliefs, but just pointing out that astrology and religion are more closely related than you may want to admit.

              And, yes, I would buy a punk Perry Como album if one were found in the vaults.

              All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by bross View Post

    Hey,



    What do you think about attacking this niche?
    I do it all the time.



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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    Discussions of things like astrology usually end dominated by people who think that people who believe are stupid, naive, duped, desperate, weak-minded, irrational, etc. etc. And that the astrologers are charlatans, self-deceiving, etc. etc. Then there's the whole who's mind is more closed, and so on.

    In reality, most people are interested to a certain degree in astrology even if it's just for a laugh. And if you can create content that people are interested in then you can make money.

    I have a site which doesn't really have that much to do with astrology but occasionally astrology-related adsense ads crop up and I make money on them (not a lot - but every little helps!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Originally Posted by bross View Post

    Hey,



    What do you think about attacking this niche. How popular is this in US and what are chances to succeed?
    No matter which angle you use, I think the responses to this thread give you your answer.

    All the best,
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    Is it a popular niche? i pretty much think it is, astrology is something that fascinates all of us. Go for it but im sure there are better niches out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rudder
      astroadvice.com is the place I get my readings. You can get a free membership and also get all kind's of stuff FREE. There are upgrades available. The Astrologer here is Eugenia Last.

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      Is it a popular niche? i pretty much think it is, astrology is something that fascinates all of us. Go for it but im sure there are better niches out there.
      When you throw in a bit of astronomy, conspiracy, mysticism, etc along with some tall tales and moonshine, very few niches are as lucrative.
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  • Profile picture of the author lovelysue
    myob, can't agree more with you.
    Just yesterday I found a website where the site owner promises to tell your your life's mission based on your natal chart so that you don't have to look for it ever again and I really liked it. Instant hook - you don't only get to know more about yourself but you also learn what the stars hold for you to do in your life. Tha's pretty powerful.

    The niche is - a great one Bross - just find your unique angle and you can be making awesome income from it
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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    Originally Posted by bross View Post

    Hey,



    What do you think about attacking this niche. How popular is this in US and what are chances to succeed?
    You have to do keyword research to determine how competitive it is. On a personal note we have Birthday Horoscopes (an astrology/zodiac website) and it does ok, but it has not been easy to amortize.
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    Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post


    Nice guy, I've had him do plumbing for me over the years. Right before I write the check he makes me very sleepy, very relaxed, and I forget how much I make out the check.

    :-Don
    I bet he could predict that your pipes would need his help again soon too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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    OK, "Lucky Days"... that makes everyone want to take astrology even more seriously... lol

    If you want to market to astrology/metaphysical/astral projection/lucid dreaming and other related niches, you'll have to find people that are already convinced that it's real.

    You'll never convince a skeptic when it comes to this stuff.

    Just my 2c.

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Ansar Pasha View Post

      OK, "Lucky Days"... that makes everyone want to take astrology even more seriously... lol

      If you want to market to astrology/metaphysical/astral projection/lucid dreaming and other related niches, you'll have to find people that are already convinced that it's real.

      You'll never convince a skeptic when it comes to this stuff.

      Just my 2c.

      Ansar
      Almost all of my sales are to "skeptics". They eat this stuff up, debunking it. It's a very hot market. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Almost all of my sales are to "skeptics". They eat this stuff up, debunking it. It's a very hot market. :p
        Lol, I was talking about (trying) to sell to people who believe in it... but good thinking on selling to the skeptics!

        Ansar
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraElam
    every individual gets attracted to it...

    nice business i would say... lot of scope... but one has to be knowledgable... fake things doesn't work for long...
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    I won't recommend his niche
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  • Profile picture of the author john14317
    Astrology is the study of celestial bodies as they relate to destiny, personality, human affairs, and natural events.[1] The primary astrological bodies are the Sun, Moon, and planets, which are analyzed by their relative positions to one another (aspects), by their placement in 'houses' (spatial divisions of the sky) and their movement through signs of the zodiac (spatial divisions of the ecliptic).
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Bringing this all back to a marketing perspective (somehwat), I did some keyword research around "astrology" and came up with some interesting results.

    Looking at the monthly exact match results for:

    [starsign] horoscope

    The most superstitious people are Gemini's with 90,500 and least superstitious are Capricorn (not surprising as Capricorns like myself are very sensible) with 5,500.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Hooray for all us Capricorns! Though having a birthday at Christmas time isn't that much fun...lol.

    Bross, I think it's a good market to look into. But as others have said; you'll need to find a way to narrow the topic. "How your star sign affects your love-life", "Why Capricorns are so Crabby" (j/k)

    Rose
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