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Ok, so my Clickbank is empty. I have done nothing with it. So I decided this month of august I want to get clickbank up and running. Forget it and cash my checks.

Now whos doing clickbank? And how do you promote it?

I was planning on doing SEO. Just creating review sites for buying keywords.

Second possibility is building my list, and promoting the clickbank product, with later product creation in mind.

All the traffic will be from SEO. Please help. My clickbank is feeling lonely.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshuaWriter
    I do "very well" promoting CB through my mailing list each week. Im going to start a newsletter soon so the emails get sent out on autopilot becuase as of right now, I am just sending broadcast emails out but I promote CB within the bottom of my broadcast emails right now and do really well with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiffan Meloney
    On average how much traffic does it take for you consider it very well? I'm looking at least 300$ per day with clickbank. But i might go with the list building option since I will have room to make more profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
    Tiffan,

    Many Warriors do quite well with Clickbank. I do "OK" and it grows every month.

    Definitely, definitely build a list as soon as possible. Give your subscribers massive value, earn their trust and promote relevant offers to them.

    $300/day is doable though it will probably take you several months before you earn anything substantial.

    Best of luck and never give up no matter what!

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Tiffan Meloney View Post

    I was planning on doing SEO. Just creating review sites for buying keywords.

    Second possibility is building my list
    I'd strongly you advise you not to try it by doing SEO without building a list, Tiffan. Building a list isn't an "alternative" to anything: however you generate your traffic, you'll need to build a list to sell ClickBank products.

    However you look at it, selling ClickBank products boils down to three main things ...

    (i) You have to select products wisely (there are some suggested guidelines here): without getting this part right, it doesn't much matter what else you do;

    (ii) You have to pre-sell effectively to well-targeted traffic;

    (iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation.

    These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them, otherwise you're probably chasing 10% of the possible money and ignoring the other 90%. There's a huge turnover of ClickBank affiliate marketers trying other ways and mostly not being too successful, but I think the above is pretty typical of those who make steady money from it.

    The key concept is that people generally buy ClickBank products because they trust someone's recommendation. They buy on the strength of your relationship with them, built through your website and especially through your autoresponder emails to your list subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author rowanman28
    I've heard a lot about building a list, but how exactly? I was thinking of writing an e-book and giving it away if they sign up to my list, and getting one cent clicks to promote it, but how long before I sell something to pay for the ads? I guess it's worth a try.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by rowanman28 View Post

      I've heard a lot about building a list, but how exactly?
      Don't you think it might be better to start a new thread to ask this, Rowanman, rather than hijacking someone else's thread in which he's asking for ClickBank advice? How would you feel, in his position, if the thread filled up with people advising someone else how to build a list rather than answering his ClickBank questions?
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  • Profile picture of the author ezybux4u
    Alot can be said for building a list, it can become the greatest asset in one's drive to make money with affiliate marketing with any network, not just ClickBank. One good thing to remember is not to be a list-absuer, who sends their traffic to affiliate offer after affiliate offer without first building up trust. By providing good quality content for free (and e-book giveaways make great bait), you can break down the conversion ratio wall.

    Also standing behind what you promote, or offer a bonus product or service with their purchase may tend to bump up your results as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyburdes
    I think I agree with everything Alexa said in post #5 above.

    I'm primarily a product owner, all of my affiliate selling activities come about because I'm promoting someone's product in hope's of building or maintaining a relationship with them so that they will do the same for me.

    So with that said, I might not be the most qualified person to talk about "pure" affiliate marketing..but....

    Your list is your business.

    No matter what your doing, never forget that.

    Your list is your business.

    SEO algorithms change.

    PPC guidelines change. Look at what happened to everyone who depending upon direct linking to a landing page from Google. If they didn't figure out another way, they have "real jobs" now.

    Tactics and tricks change all the time.

    But your core strategy should be consistent, and list building needs to be a huge part of it. It gives you options others don't have.

    Most people, no matter how well pre-sold, do not buy the first time. Most studies suggest it takes about seven communications before someone trust you and buys.

    I have found that only about 15% (a little less) of my buyers buy from me the first time they hit the page. If I wasn't building a list and a relationship, I'd be leaving 85% of my potential income on the table.

    So - One more time because I think it's very important.

    Your list is your business.

    Everyone repeat after me now:

    "My list is my business. My business is in my list"
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  • Profile picture of the author travisl
    Yes you HAVE to build a list. It is a very smart thing to do. Why let your customers go, when you could continue to make money off of them for the rest of your life??

    Make a squeeze page, and promote it with SEO for the best results
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyburdes
    My best advice would be "get your own product", and then use the leverage you get from that to become a much better affiliate.

    Even if your primary goal is to be an affiliate and your not wanting to create a lot of products, or do launches, I still think your better off (profits maximized) by having your own product(s)

    I've put all of about 4 minutes worth of thought into this, so bear in mind it's not a master plan by any means.

    but.....

    If I wanted to break into IM/MMO (but I don't) - I'd get some solo ads, maybe some facebook, yahoo, bing etc and send people to an offer for a report. I'd have that be a video, I'd teach them about PLR, and I'd do some mind trick vodoo..."Imagine the life..etc etc"

    The other day I saw Willie Crawford selling a full rights PLR package for $9.97 with something like 70 or 80 products. Some of them full out ready to go e-books that could probably be sold.

    After they watch my video, I might offer them that PLR for $9.97.

    If they buy the PLR for $9.97 I'd have put together my own short video course teaching them how to turn each of those PLR's into products they could sell themselves on Clickbank or Commission Junction or PayDotCom etc. I'd test price points, but let's for now say $29.97.

    If they say no I'd downsell them to an e-book print version for $9.97 (again test the prices)

    I'd be getting my traffic from Solo Ads and Facebook PPC. After selling them the course on How to Create the prodcuts, I'd tell them hey well, your not going to get very far without traffic. You came to me because of my secret ninja traffic methods. I'd offer them a course teaching them my traffic tactics and giving them a few well converting landing pages. Sell that for $67.

    If they say no, I'd downsell and offer to only teach them about Facebook, and charge say $49.97.

    Finally I'd have an affiliate link for a hosting package.

    This wouldn't be hugely profitable, and the fact is I'd be totally thrilled to break even on it (though I suspect it would generate a positive return) because I'm primarily trying to build my list.

    If you follow that plan you would have a self funding list, you'd be building a buyers list right away and know who the hottest prospects are, and you can start to build great relationships.

    Damn....maybe I should get into IM

    Kelly

    PS...here's a little tip you should be thankful to get. $9.97 converts just as well as $7. There is no difference what so ever between $19.97 and $17, or $27 and $29.97 etc etc. Also there is no difference between, for example, $19 and $19.97.

    I've tested the hell out of that because nobody believed me, heck I didn't even believe my own results at first because $7 is so ingrained in everyone's brain.

    If your charging $7, you should be charging $9.97, because $7 does not to increase your conversions as compared to $9.97, they are the same. (at least, thankfully, you haven't decreased them either). All you are doing by selling at $7 and not $9.97 is leaving $2.97 on the table with every single sale you make. The exception is $67 vs $69. People see $69 and I think we all just go back to Jr High School.

    $2.97 might not sound like a ton of money, but some people are selling hundreds, even thousands of products every day. It adds up, and as a business owner your goal should always be to maximize profits where ever you can do so.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by kellyburdes View Post

      If your charging $7, you should be charging $9.97, because $7 does not to increase your conversions as compared to $9.97, they are the same.
      The experience of my former clients who tested properly (sometimes at my "insistence"), rather than relying on assumption and surmise, was exactly the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by Tiffan Meloney View Post

    Ok, so my Clickbank is empty. I have done nothing with it. So I decided this month of august I want to get clickbank up and running. Forget it and cash my checks.

    Now whos doing clickbank? And how do you promote it?

    I was planning on doing SEO. Just creating review sites for buying keywords.

    Second possibility is building my list, and promoting the clickbank product, with later product creation in mind.

    All the traffic will be from SEO. Please help. My clickbank is feeling lonely.
    Clickbank is just a payment processor - the key is making sure you are promoting the right products.

    Building your list and product review sites work well.

    I get a lot of success from Clickbank with my own products.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiffan Meloney
    Ok. then list building it is. I already have experience in building lists and I saw at least 1000 threads saying build your list. Thanks guy, I will get to work and come back with some updates in the next month
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Tiffan Meloney View Post

      Ok. then list building it is.
      Congratulations on one of the most important decisions you can ever make for the success of your IM business. Looking forward to hearing how you get on.

      And take seriously the good advice in the post just above this one, too: that will also be very helpful for getting the odds more in your favour and reducing the risk of being "unlucky".
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  • Profile picture of the author inhwanie
    One other thing I would recommend with using clinkbank in addition to valuable information others have provided here is to start with products with a low-medium gravity. As time goes on you'll realize that most high gravity products are that way because they have a special launch they do. If you are jumping on the bandwagon after seeing a product with high gravity, you'll have a much tougher time getting your foot in among the hundreds who prepared pre-launch. You can obviously join in on the pre-launch as well and prepare that way but it will be difficult when you first start out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    Seo is the way to go, i got an affiliate site and ive seen most of my sales from targeted traffic (SEO).
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      Seo is the way to go, i got an affiliate site and ive seen most of my sales from targeted traffic (SEO).
      Such a model of SEO-only directed traffic seems impractical over more than a few websites in consideration of the effort required just to rank.
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