Outsourcing on warrior forum

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Do you think it is possible to use services people on this forum to take your website to #1 on google and make a decent amount of sales? Without touching your computer at all? What would be a good start(services you would need, how often etc)
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  • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
    It is highly possible, there are a lot of pros on here. Question is, how much are you willing to pay?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ansar Pasha
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    "Mattlaclear" has been running a page 1 Google service for $100 - looks like there's some kickass testimonials (10's of pages worth, probably more since this was a while ago).

    Have a search and find his offer if he's still around.

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  • Profile picture of the author GameVoid
    You can hire web designers, niche researchers, content writers, SEO and backlinking services all right in the Warrior For Hire section.

    So yes, in theory, you could start a website and go from $0 to profit without ever having to do anything yourself except for obtaining hosting and managing your outsourced workers.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Keith
      theory does not make money. yes many successful warriors outsource, but i would venture to say that none of us take the super hands off approach you speak of.

      outsourced people are employees. when is the last time you saw an offline business hire a bunch of employees and not a hire a manager or be the manager themselves. so what makes you think that will work online?

      and better yet, my guess is you would probably want the work done cheap too.

      this is a real business. not some fantasy point, click, make money world.
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      • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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        Originally Posted by owslaw123 View Post

        theory does not make money. yes many successful warriors outsource, but i would venture to say that none of us take the super hands off approach you speak of.

        outsourced people are employees. when is the last time you saw an offline business hire a bunch of employees and not a hire a manager or be the manager themselves. so what makes you think that will work online?

        and better yet, my guess is you would probably want the work done cheap too.

        this is a real business. not some fantasy point, click, make money world.
        I have spoke with a couple of warriors who said they have done this. It may not be fantasy. Just thought i'd add food for thought.

        carry on
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Team X View Post

          I have spoke with a couple of warriors who said they have done this. It may not be fantasy. Just thought i'd add food for thought.

          carry on
          While it may be possible for some, I think it'd be delusional for a rank newbie to assume he could completely outsource everything from day one. (Remember, the OP is wondering whether everything could be done without him even touching his computer.)

          Without some understanding of the inner workings of building and ranking a website that converts, you'd be at the mercy of all your outsourced workers and have no clue as to whether they're implementing things properly or not.
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          • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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            Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

            While it may be possible for some, I think it'd be delusional for a rank newbie to assume he could completely outsource everything from day one. (Remember, the OP is wondering whether everything could be done without him even touching his computer.)

            Without some understanding of the inner workings of building and ranking a website that converts, you'd be at the mercy of all your outsourced workers and have no clue as to whether they're implementing things properly or not.
            Ok i'll by you need a working understanding.

            I mean a newbie couldn't even sell the product without some form of education of what he is selling.

            Now the warrior forum member who does the work, if he wants to keep his stellar reputation, I assume would own up to his/her mistakes.

            There are white label/ resellers I am sure floating around on the forum.

            There are people who want to do SEO but doesn't want to come from behind the computer.

            Why can't a newbie find the clients, name a price, and, give the person who has the talent do his part?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
        Originally Posted by owslaw123 View Post

        theory does not make money. yes many successful warriors outsource, but i would venture to say that none of us take the super hands off approach you speak of.

        outsourced people are employees. when is the last time you saw an offline business hire a bunch of employees and not a hire a manager or be the manager themselves. so what makes you think that will work online?

        and better yet, my guess is you would probably want the work done cheap too.

        this is a real business. not some fantasy point, click, make money world.
        I completely disagree. With the time on my hands, its hard enough to post on one forum. I used to post on up to 10 different music forums when i didnt have a career.

        You have to understand we(the team.) are a handful of producers, song writers, and engineers. Its our job to create the product(song) which can be extremely, extremely time consuming. We have the products which speak for themselves, we dont have the exposure. Im sure its not hard at all to hire someone who knows what they're doing, who has spent years learning this trade rather than taking time out of our schedules to learn it all from the ground up.

        Besides why not give someone a chance to be apart of something big and pay them for it. Share the wealth is better than no wealth.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Most of SEO can definitely be outsourced-

    But the person doing the outsourcing should have a solid plan, which usually means some type of experience.

    I could rank all day for ""how to beat my mom at a farting contest", but I probably wouldn't make any money with it
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  • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
    I think youd have an idea or not if they did their job properly by looting at the site analytics
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  • Profile picture of the author mandom
    Outsourcing is a great way to leverage your time so you can focus on what you really enjoy/are good at. But, before you start outsourcing you should know at least the basics of what needs to be done so you can judge whether or not your outsourcer is doing a good job or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentMachine
    If you have the capital, outsourcing is a great way to grow your business. Finding a quality worker can be difficult sometimes. Once you find someone you can trust and provides you with quality work, you will have time to focus on other ventures.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathy Curiel
    If you know what you are doing this can be done. I outsourced most of my work and it works for me
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

    What would be a good start(services you would need, how often etc)
    That would depend on YOUR plan. Without having some experience yourself it will be difficult to know what you should outsource and where. There are some great services here on the forum, but it's difficult to recommend any without knowing exactly what you want to achieve.

    I couldn't do it without touching my computer - the initial niche and keyword research is something I always do myself. After that I create a plan, and then outsource certain tasks that I need done to achieve my goal e.g. content, backlinks etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
    Ive come to the decision that do to my main career time is extremely valuable(music industry is a new mystery everyday) that outsourcing may be my best route. I see some people with experience think this is very possible, i shall talk it over with the team and see if they're willing to research too. Please dont be afraid to Pm me any amazing services on here that have great reviews and are just amazing. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
    Nothing is really 100% sure but if you use the services of the people here in Warrior forum your website will have better chances of reaching the top spot if that is your target.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
      Originally Posted by JustinDupre View Post

      Nothing is really 100% sure but if you use the services of the people here in Warrior forum your website will have better chances of reaching the top spot if that is your target.
      exactly, if i could take the next few years to learn this craft i would but we need things up and running. Tired of waiting on the big label monsters.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        in any industry there are people who do indeed know how to connect product creators with customers. in the IM (internet marketing) world, they are described as joint venture brokers.

        in the music business they are described as labels or as you define them "big labels." those are the people who have your customers.

        the professional marketers on this and many other places on the web, are usually not the true professionals. the professional backlinkers and seo guys work for the professional marketers. The professional marketers are the ones you need to hire, and most of them are not for hire. they are the ones who can help you find new ways to get yourself noticed.

        sounds to me like if you are really wanting to find other methods to distribute your music (beside big labels), your best option would be a serious marketing / PR firm that understands social media and how they can help people in the music business.

        or maybe try getting connected with some smaller radio stations.

        i may get fooled, but i just dont think paying some "semi-professional" seo guy from a forum (even a good one like this) is going to do much to get your name out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
    Dont worry we have the plan. And we will never know if we dont try!
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  • Profile picture of the author ebusinesstutor
    Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

    Do you think it is possible to use services people on this forum to take your website to #1 on google and make a decent amount of sales? Without touching your computer at all? What would be a good start(services you would need, how often etc)
    The first start BEFORE traffic and SEO, etc. is a professional copywriter to give you your best shot at converting visitors to customers. I suggest a great lead capture page, professionally written.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
      Originally Posted by ebusinesstutor View Post

      The first start BEFORE traffic and SEO, etc. is a professional copywriter to give you your best shot at converting visitors to customers. I suggest a great lead capture page, professionally written.
      Thanks we have the whole idea down. Vendors to all music stores online, fb widgets, whole 9 yards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    This has got to be the most annoying thing out there. New Marketers always want to cut corners and want to make money without putting in any work. Once you start to understand that making money online is not a short term and overnight thing you will start to realize that putting in the work is part of it.

    Sure if you have the money you can outsource many things, but if you start by learning how to build a website and get it on the top of Google you will be able to understand what services are good for you and which ones are not. If you can spot a service that could destroy or do very little for your website you will be better off than if you just try to buy your way to the top.

    Plus staying on the top of google is very important. Google made some significant changes at the beginning of this year and it cost a large amount of people a lot of money. This was their own fault because they were cutting corners and trying to take the easy way out. Those of us that put out quality content and did things the proper way actually saw a rise in our rankings.

    You can certainly pay for services to help you make money and outsourcing is a great way to go, but first take the time to understand what it is you are getting and what it is you really need to gain ranking on Google.

    Benjamin Ehinger
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    • Profile picture of the author Mixengineer
      Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

      This has got to be the most annoying thing out there. New Marketers always want to cut corners and want to make money without putting in any work. Once you start to understand that making money online is not a short term and overnight thing you will start to realize that putting in the work is part of it.

      Sure if you have the money you can outsource many things, but if you start by learning how to build a website and get it on the top of Google you will be able to understand what services are good for you and which ones are not. If you can spot a service that could destroy or do very little for your website you will be better off than if you just try to buy your way to the top.

      Plus staying on the top of google is very important. Google made some significant changes at the beginning of this year and it cost a large amount of people a lot of money. This was their own fault because they were cutting corners and trying to take the easy way out. Those of us that put out quality content and did things the proper way actually saw a rise in our rankings.

      You can certainly pay for services to help you make money and outsourcing is a great way to go, but first take the time to understand what it is you are getting and what it is you really need to gain ranking on Google.

      Benjamin Ehinger
      Please dont disrespect me. You obviously didnt read anything i said. Barely no internet time do to my career. I check here once an hour while i work during the routine hourly break(because of ear fatigue). Outsourcing is my only option if i want to get anything done. Im a mix engineer, you can say im outsourced. Are you going to tell every music producer out there that they should take the time to learn how to mix? Half of the guys i work with will deck you for telling them what to do. Others will laugh because you dont know how hard mixing is. Its not for everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
        Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

        Please dont disrespect me. You obviously didnt read anything i said.

        Don't assume things.


        Barely no internet time do to my career.

        Find time, we all have it and it is just a matter of finding it. When I started I was working two jobs and nearly 80 hours a week, but I found time to learn what I do and now it saves me time and money when I outsource.

        I check here once an hour while i work during the routine hourly break(because of ear fatigue).

        Sounds like you have a bit of time there.

        Outsourcing is my only option if i want to get anything done. Im a mix engineer, you can say im outsourced.Are you going to tell every music producer out there that they should take the time to learn how to mix?

        NO, but they should at least understand what is going on and the differences between quality and crap. I bet the do, too.


        Half of the guys i work with will deck you for telling them what to do.

        More than 95% of people trying to do something new, like market on the internet, NEED to be told what to do so that they don't waste money and time. The guys you work with have obviously taken the time to learn their craft and that is totally different than trying to trust people you don't know and have no idea how long they have been doing what they do.


        Others will laugh because you dont know how hard mixing is. Its not for everyone.
        And I honestly don't care because I am not going to try to get into mixing. Internet marketing, Article marketing, and Affiliate marketing are not for everybody either.



        Obviously you didn't read what I said either. My point was very simple and I have been there and done that as a new marketer, so maybe instead of assuming that I am disrespecting you it would be smart to read on and realize that some of us actually have made the same mistakes you are probably going to make.

        Everybody has some time in their day or week and you don't need much time to learn enough about what you are trying to do to know what you should expect from someone you hire. You have to know what the process is and what your plan is before you start outsourcing or you are going to waste money on bad content, bad linking strategies, and more.

        Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

        I think youd have an idea or not if they did their job properly by looting at the site analytics
        It is not as easy as you are trying to make it sound. Outsourcing may save you time, but it is also time consuming. Wait until you outsource something and you never get anything in return for the first time or you get something that is not nearly as good as you expected it to be because you don't know the industry.

        Even worse wait until you get what you paid for, but you paid for absolute crap and you don't even know it. This happens all the time and even though it is not as bad in the forum, it still happens.

        I have seen so many writer, SEO professionals, and others that use outdated strategies or strategies that are not for the long term that it is not funny.

        Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

        I completely disagree. With the time on my hands, its hard enough to post on one forum. I used to post on up to 10 different music forums when i didnt have a career.

        You have to understand we(the team.) are a handful of producers, song writers, and engineers. Its our job to create the product(song) which can be extremely, extremely time consuming. We have the products which speak for themselves, we dont have the exposure. Im sure its not hard at all to hire someone who knows what they're doing, who has spent years learning this trade rather than taking time out of our schedules to learn it all from the ground up.

        Besides why not give someone a chance to be apart of something big and pay them for it. Share the wealth is better than no wealth.
        Again, it is not as easy as you think it might be.

        Many people do outsource and they do it very successfully, but they started by doing it themselves. I outsource many tasks that I used to do myself, and since I used to do them myself I understand what is quality and what is not. If you have no idea what you are looking for and you are just blindly trusting someone that says they know what they are doing you may be very disappointed with the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    As for me I find there is a low chance of success on just basically outsourcing everything, in one way or another you really have to involve yourself...primarily on setting goals, assessment and evaluation.
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  • Profile picture of the author prasanth5
    You can try to use various SEO tools available across the Internet for the purpose. SEO is the key to take the website to the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author lester091784
    Taking your website in the highest ranking in Google is not impossible especially when outsourcing it to the pros here in this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimimikes
    Originally Posted by Mixengineer View Post

    Do you think it is possible to use services people on this forum to take your website to #1 on google and make a decent amount of sales? Without touching your computer at all? What would be a good start(services you would need, how often etc)
    Without touching your computer at all?

    No, that's not possible!
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