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jcourtenay

Banned 13 years ago

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jcourtenay

Just how exactly did you do this, would be extremely useful for my webhosting site as I'm getting 5 new clients a day at the most at the moment.

I have android apps that people want to use. There are so few apps and so many websites. Whatever you want to do on website, don't do it on website, do it on android app - make sense?

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gregbanks

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jkiley

I have android apps that people want to use. There are so few apps and so many websites. Whatever you want to do on website, don't do it on website, do it on android app - make sense?

Made any money off them yet? :-p

I've got several thousand people on a list - emailed them yesteray and 12 opened :confused: So it's not the size of the list that's the main aim, but how receptive it is

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by gregbanks

Made any money off them yet? :-p

I've got several thousand people on a list - emailed them yesteray and 12 opened :confused: So it's not the size of the list that's the main aim, but how receptive it is

Good point. All my apps are free (give me high usage), and then I make serious money by brading/customizing them for other people.

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sjean

13 years ago

How are you doing this? Are you creating android apps or marketing already created apps?

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jkiley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by rsachetti

How are you doing this? Are you creating android apps or marketing already created apps?

I have about 40 android apps now, and adding more and more.
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- sjean 13 years ago
  
  I am still unsure of what you are trying to explain. You can monetize and sell products on your android apps? So you can send a CPA offer to a mobile device?
  
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Mike Hill 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sjean

How are you doing this? Are you creating android apps or marketing already created apps?

Doesn't anyone read entire posts anymore? He tells you. Now instead of trying to squeeze out all the details that you probably won't take action on anyway why not go figure it out for yourself, get in the trenches and try something.

Why is everyone so afraid to try something? Oh, and below is where he tells you that he writes Android apps.

...and all of this without spending a single dollar in marketing.

So, stop building websites to create your list. Write android apps.
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benjaedging

13 years ago

By the way what sort of app are you creating ? What niches ?

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jkiley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by benjaedging

By the way what sort of app are you creating ? What niches ?

In last two years, I have built localized vertical search engine. Want to search for job in NY or a car in Miami or property in LA?
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JasonParker

13 years ago

Are they all free apps?

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jkiley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by JasonParker

Are they all free apps?

Yes, all of them are free.

I did testing...and unless the app is free (or you have a big name or spend big money in marketing), your app doesn't get too far.

Also, don't waste time with admob (or anything like that). Even with my high usage apps, I was making only few dollars a day.
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- azmanar 13 years ago
  
  Hi J,
  
  Congratulations !
  
  Bottomline from list building is making money. So the quality of the list is also important:
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  2. Buyers List
  
  If you're still building a list, fine. If you want to make money ASAP, then might as well do Solo Ads or do a JV with someone in WF who has a ready buyers' list.
  
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  myob 13 years ago
  
  Building lists of free loaders takes time to convert to sales, if at all. Some of the "old-fashioned ways" denigrated by the OP are still converting in the high double digits.
  
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JasonParker

13 years ago

A freebie list is useful for promoting your website for you...

That's one thing to consider.

I learned that once in a report by a fella named Allen Says.

Plus alot of people complain about the quality of leads when really they have leads who will at least buy what they buy... So you really have a conversion problem.

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JasonParker

A freebie list is useful for promoting your website for you...

That's one thing to consider.

I learned that once in a report by a fella named Allen Says.

Plus alot of people complain about the quality of leads when really they have leads who will at least buy what they buy... So you really have a conversion problem.

Telling you guys a truth, my model is little different than most people here. I don't sell anything to my list, but by showing the huge usage of my application, and by providing the proof that it can generate leads, I sell branded/customized version of my app and make pretty good money that way.

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edynas

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jkiley

Telling you guys a truth, my model is little different than most people here. I don't sell anything to my list, but by showing the huge usage of my application, and by providing the proof that it can generate leads, I sell branded/customized version of my app and make pretty good money that way.

Looks like you found a great business. I am getting my feet wet also at this moment with apps. You indicate that you use your free apps sort of as bait for paid whitelabel versions. But your own free apps, you do not monitze them at all? Like for instance adsense for mobile or like the job application app you have direct them to a job site you are affiliated with?

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jkiley

13 years ago

I do :-)

Don't bother wasting time with admob - either they are fraud or I am missing something.

Even with high usage of my applications, I was making like 2-3 dollars a day.

What I do now is that I cross market my own apps :-)

Originally Posted by edynas

Looks like you found a great business. I am getting my feet wet also at this moment with apps. You indicate that you use your free apps sort of as bait for paid whitelabel versions. But your own free apps, you do not monitze them at all? Like for instance adsense for mobile or like the job application app you have direct them to a job site you are affiliated with?

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celente

13 years ago

yes you are not hanging out with newbies in this thread. There are some great listbuilders in here that have responded.

Freebie seekers are ok, but not who you want to be emailing in the long run.

A buyers list of 1000 is much better than a freebie list of say 10,000 people.

Just my two cents. But my buyers list make me a ton more than the freebie seekers I have. Segment your list if you do not believe me, you will soon see the proof is in the puddin!

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Dustin Goode

13 years ago

Sounds like you've got your ducks in a row. Not everyone can create smartphone apps, but since you can, this is a good way to go about it for sure!

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BlakeM

13 years ago

I think you should try sending an email out to your list and see how well it converts. If you are selling apps to people because they want to use your method and get thousands of subscribers, then you should do the honest thing and see if those subscribers are worth it.

Besides, freebie subscribers or not, you're leaving $$$ and traffic on the table if you don't email them.

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John Romaine

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jkiley

As of 8/3/2001 2:55 PM, I have 86634 subscribers. First subscriber was added on 3/10/2011 10:14 AM (146 days ago).

Sorry, do you mean 2011??

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jkiley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Sorry, do you mean 2011??

Yes, good catch.
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singhavn

13 years ago

Well you seem to be pro in what you are doing. Why don't you create a wso and sell your business model.

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jkiley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by singhavn

Well you seem to be pro in what you are doing. Why don't you create a wso and sell your business model.

I am software developer, and not a marketer.

Last month, I actually did try to work with a so called IM expert, and gave him a step by step guide of how to get in android application market.

He created a WSO but sold only two copies (or at least that's what he told me).

I could have done better on my own I think.
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magnates

13 years ago

Originally Posted by singhavn

Well you seem to be pro in what you are doing. Why don't you create a wso and sell your business model.

It is no good just yet if they don't buy anything

86K+ don't buy anything just end up costing you money

I am not saying some of 86k+ wouldn't buy but it is easy to be deceived by the share number of subscribers . If they don't come to know who you are and how you can help , it often doesn't end very well

I am not taking anything from you . You have built a list and 86k+ in 5 month is amazing feat by any standard

Just saying that would be so much better if most of them bought some stuff and at least help you recover the cost of creating the app and then some

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by magnates

It is no good just yet if they don't buy anything

86K+ don't buy anything just end up costing you money

I am not saying some of 86k+ wouldn't buy but it is easy to be deceived by the share number of subscribers . If they don't come to know who you are and how you can help , it often doesn't end very well

I am not taking anything from you . You have built a list and 86k+ in 5 month is amazing feat by any standard

Just saying that would be so much better if most of them bought some stuff and at least help you recover the cost of creating the app and then some

I understand what you are saying, but I have a different model. You don't have to sell anything to your users to make money.

I don't have to have any subscribers. I sell branded versions of the app by showing the usage of the application.

This is what I am doing with my property finder application - and think about this for a moment and see how big this is.

My property finder app searches all the property sites and help people find rental/forsale/land/commercial/etc types of properties in their desired area. Some of them, while they are looking at those houses, click on a button which says "Request More Information". They are interested in that house and want to get a call from a realtor - that's a lead. If they close that lead then I get paid a decent commission on that lead.

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Ben Gordon

13 years ago

Wow - what a creative way to build up a list! Thanks for the idea, I might make iPhone apps, I have a buddy of mine who creates them and I think he'll create a couple of cheap ones for me

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Gordon

Wow - what a creative way to build up a list! Thanks for the idea, I might make iPhone apps, I have a buddy of mine who creates them and I think he'll create a couple of cheap ones for me

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From what I have seen (I have an app which is on both iPhone/android/windows phone/windows), do it on android - it has better usage.

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Si_P 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jkiley

From what I have seen (I have an app which is on both iPhone/android/windows phone/windows), do it on android - it has better usage.

Once you have created your app, how do you get your app onto the Android Marketplace? Can you give some brief details of how to do this?

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DanDasilva15YearOldIM

13 years ago

I know basics of application developemt since I develop iPhone apps (obviously via Xcode).

What do you need to know for android apps? C++ and Javascript?

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM

I know basics of application developemt since I develop iPhone apps (obviously via Xcode).

What do you need to know for android apps? C++ and Javascript?

actually, java. Download eclipse and write java code :-)

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Ben Gordon

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jkiley

actually, java. Download eclipse and write java code :-)

I know PHP, actually pretty well. I've created several advanced products that are going for $97+ in the market right now.

Is Java anything like PHP? I might be thinking of starting it.

Also, not to mention, I'm a very fast learner when it comes to programming.

Ben

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Gordon

I know PHP, actually pretty well. I've created several advanced products that are going for $97+ in the market right now.

Is Java anything like PHP? I might be thinking of starting it.

Also, not to mention, I'm a very fast learner when it comes to programming.

Ben

I don't know much about php - I think it's pretty different from java. But if you know one programming language then picking another one is not that hard. Download eclipse and try it out

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Ben Gordon

13 years ago

I just wanted to get into your conversation

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You don't have to sell them anything yet. You can start by selling solo ads. I'm sure you'll get plenty of people who are willing to purchase solo ads.

Ben

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jkiley

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Gordon

I just wanted to get into your conversation

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You don't have to sell them anything yet. You can start by selling solo ads. I'm sure you'll get plenty of people who are willing to purchase solo ads.

Ben

I did try admob, but they are either fraud or I missed something - I was only making like 2-3 dollars a day - eventhough the usage was huge.

So what I do now is that I cross reference lot of my own apps. Why send traffic to somebody else when you can use it yourself?

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jkiley

13 years ago

goto Android Developers and open up account with them, and then upload apk file with description and graphics. Not too hard.

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Si_P 13 years ago

Thanks...is there a subscription fee?
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  Originally Posted by Si_P
  
  Thanks...is there a subscription fee?
  
  I think you pay one time 25 dollars.
  
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webmaster1742

13 years ago

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Mike Hill 13 years ago

Originally Posted by webmaster1742

Yeah.. why not, I can share how to get 100 subs in 20 min, no jokes..

Dude, you gotta start adding more value to the forum instead of your "one liners" that don't fit into the conversation one bit just to get exposure to your sig file link.

I had a look at some of your other posts and lately you have done nothing but post 10 - 20 words max into threads where your comments are not helpful and you're not adding value to the conversation.

So, in short STOP doing this ... and that's no joke!
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warriorjohn1444

Banned 13 years ago

Can we have a detailed information on this here?

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Mike Hill 13 years ago

Originally Posted by warriorjohn1444

Can we have a detailed information on this here?

Why do you want detailed information on this? Are you really going to follow through or at the first sign of difficulty are you going to move on to something else?

Heck since you're at it why not ask him to write it all out in a neat little PDF book for you and mail it.

Like come on...
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