Is hypey advertising dishonest?

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Do you consider hypey advertising as dishonest?

I'm probably going on a very fine line, because perhaps "autopilot income" can, at some point, be really "autopilot", or perhaps, in 10 yrs. of doing Adsense you will be able to make $10,000 a month from that alone.

Then again, maybe no one would buy anything if their hopes wouldn't have been blown up out of proportion.

And to those that have tried both ways - which sold more? Just curious.
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  • Profile picture of the author ephame
    Not sure if i would call it dishonest, but i always feel the advertiser should use the product or atleast understand it. Otherwise it's all just great marketing, e.g- every morning tv show ad with some ab thing or swivel sweeper etc etc.. hype at it's finest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tris
    Originally Posted by DebbieD View Post

    Do you consider hypey advertising as dishonest?
    No, as long as it's honest!

    I believe 'hypey' always outsells 'un-hypey' in niche markets where you are an un-known expert, and you are making a single sale. Of course having said that you should always stay honest.

    You know: Talk about benefits, not features; lifestyle, not risk; weight lost not food missed. This isn't dishonest hype , just good marketing.

    Otherwise to build a reputation, under-promising and over-delivery is a slow but very solid strategy not many people use.
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    • Profile picture of the author DebbieD
      So you're saying that you can use sales hype and still be honest - that they can work together.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Morris
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        Originally Posted by DebbieD View Post

        So you're saying that you can use sales hype and still be honest - that they can work together.
        Yes it is very possible that they can co-exist, but a fine line has to be drawn between appearing over hypey as well as dishonest..
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      • Profile picture of the author Tris
        Originally Posted by DebbieD View Post

        So you're saying that you can use sales hype and still be honest - that they can work together.
        For sure, hype is not dishonesty to me. Hype is just excitement or some sales copy that is 'hyperactive'.

        A good marketing strategy too, in the right place and time.

        Dishonesty is something else entirely and never helps anything long-term. It is especially bad in sales copy, when your honesty and integrity are under a microscope.

        Just be real and provide value. There is no need for lies in marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author DebbieD
      [QUOTE=Otherwise to build a reputation, under-promising and over-delivery is a slow but very solid strategy not many people use. [/QUOTE]

      Thanks everyone,

      I guess the key is to use sales hype to get the person to buy and then deliver real value by over-delivering.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    The late Gary Halbert in one of his seminars said that you can hype up your copy but you should not be dishonest.

    So it means there is a big difference. With the first you are just putting your product under the best possible light, with the other it's lying/deception.
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  • Profile picture of the author Qamar
    IMO, too hypey will definitely lead to dishonesty. The line is very thin....




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  • Profile picture of the author dcristo
    Only if the claims are false. There is nothing wrong about building hype around an advertising campaign, in fact its a prerequisite for a successful campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamawebinc
      Well, what is hypey? Is what is hypey to me, hypey to you?

      I get lot's of emails that play on the "no hype here" aspect. They first try to tell you that the email is not filled with hype, and then they proceed with the msg.

      When I read it, I chuckle because all I think is. This sure sounds like hype to me.

      On a side note. When you write an email to a friend about something you loved, like a restaurant or a movie, do you not hype it to them?

      Subject: Awesome dinner

      Joe, we had dinner last night as "Bob's Steakhouse." OMG, absolutely awesome. My steak was so good, I don't think I've ever had a better steak in the last 20 years. You gotta try this place! If I know you, you'll flip!
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveFinch
    I find hyped up copy a complete turn-off. But like most things some of it will be dishonest, and some of it not.
    In most cases I'll immediately delete an email that has a hyped up title, and browse away from a web page that appears to have a hyped up header.
    Mind you. It all depends on how each of us defines hyped up I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    Hey Debbie D... man that's got a ring to it

    In my opinion... we as marketers, salesmen, advertisers... we have a role to play in the prospect's buying decision.

    (Wow, look at how businessy that sounds :p)

    It is our job to remove any excuse a prospect (who wants the product) has to NOT buy it, and every motivation to purchase that product NOW.

    Hype is important... motivated language such as life-changing, ground-breaking, dominate, underground, secrets.... they are all hype-y words, in the sense that they're exaggerated.

    Not using these kinds of words is bad copy.

    e.g. "This ground-breaking underground formula will imbed into your subconscious ALL the secrets the Top 1% use to dominate today's economy"

    or

    "This program will teach you how to make money"

    You see?

    And equally, you don't want to sound like an idiotic 19 year old girl straight from Reality TV:

    "OH MY GOD THIS THING IS JUST AWESOME... TOTALLY AWESOME, IT'S LIKE... THE BEST THING EVUUUURRRRRRRRR.... XOXOXOXOX >_< :-D :-D"

    You know?

    In any case, you know when you're telling a lie. You know when you're bending the truth just a little too much. As soon as you have to ask yourself 'am I just being full of **** here' then it's time to rethink your text.

    Otherwise you're just doing your job... helping motivated buyers get over that initial hump of parting with their cash, taking a risk that'll improve their lives.

    Of course if you don't believe the product will help them, you have no business selling it in my opinion.

    Remember, be honest, don't tell lies, but be a marketer
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  • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
    Not too long ago I mentored with David Garfinkel. He's not only one of the top 3 living copywriters IMO... but known as the world's greatest copy coach.

    I asked him this very question. His response: If you can prove it... it's not hype. I've never forgotten it and in fact it's what I pass on to my students.
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    • Profile picture of the author DebbieD
      Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing View Post

      Not too long ago I mentored with David Garfinkel. He's not only one of the top 3 living copywriters IMO... but known as the world's greatest copy coach.

      I asked him this very question. His response: If you can prove it... it's not hype. I've never forgotten it and in fact it's what I pass on to my students.
      Thanks for chiming in, MontelloMarketing.

      That answer is brilliant! I'll think about it when writing copy.
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