by LarryC
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Lately, I've been getting inundated with invitations to webinars. I like the concept, and have attended some good ones, but already they've gotten so popular that it's hard to keep up with all of them. The problem as I have with webinars is that they are time consuming -usually more than an hour. There are only so many hours in a day, so as more and more people offer them, it becomes harder to attend more than a small percentage of them.

I wonder if this is a basic limitation to using the webinar as a business model, unless you're already well known enough to attract many attendees. I think, to combat information overload, there's a lot to be said for the minimalist approach -something you can absorb in a short video or PDF file. Webinars can be fun and informative, but they're seldom dense in terms of actual information. You wait for it to start, sit through the introduction, let the presenter(s) warm up to the topic, and so on.

I'm certainly not against webinars -in fact, what sparked this topic in my mind was the fact that there are 2 at the same time tomorrow night that I'd like to attend! I know, you can usually download them later, but even if you can watch them at your own leisure (and then you can't interact, of course), there's still the time issue.
#overload #webinar
  • Profile picture of the author ehawkmarketer
    That is certainly an interesting standpoint.

    you're right that most webinars could be shorter. in fact, if we could distill the goodies of a webinar, perhaps it could be a short video or pdf.

    However, from the perspective of the webinar host, it is more vital to do it to gain leads, and develop a relationship with the audience. Webinars usually sell something at the end... or they develop the brand for the host. (THAT is how you become well known enough). So if you want to get well known-- host a webinar . Just make sure you deliver massive value so people know you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      There are now several "make money with webinars" courses/e-books, etc. so now those folks are doing their own webinars thus you're now in overload.

      All new shiny things get burned out at times when "how to" courses come out. Think about the publishing PLR to Kindle courses that came out. Suddenly enough folks where doing it that they inundated Amazon Kindle marketplace with garbage so now Amazon is deleting them all out.

      Makes sense that a lot of folks now are doing webinars that really shouldn't be doing them but they have big dollar signs in their head so they're just throwing webinars together that aren't very good.

      There is even software to trick you into thinking it's a live webinar when it's just pre-recorded video you're watching.

      Anyway some of the reasons why there are so many webinars at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Yes, I've seen that there are many "how to run your own webinar" courses. It's certainly a good platform in many ways, it's just a question of how many the marketplace can handle. There are already many webinars that appear to be quite good competing for the same time slots, without even considering all the spammy ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    [QUOTE=LarryC;4439788]Lately, I've been getting inundated with invitations to webinars. I like the concept, and have attended some good ones, but already they've gotten so popular that it's hard to keep up with all of them. The problem as I have with webinars is that they are time consuming -usually more than an hour. There are only so many hours in a day, so as more and more people offer them, it becomes harder to attend more than a small percentage of them.QUOTE]

    I was just thinking this myself the other night....way too many webinars, way too little time! I have reached the point that some invitations I delete without reading because they have one a week.

    If the subject matter is of great interest I will often sign up to be on their notification list and simply wait until they make the recorded version available, which I can then watch at a time more convenient to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      There is a simple solution to that. If the webinars which you are being presented with do NOT fit into your current business model, then don't watch them, do sign up to them and don't watch the replays

      People are using webinars because there is nothing that sells like them as far as sales platforms go from what I've seen and tested. But again, if you are currently working a good business model and the ones you're being invited to don't fit it, just use enough self control and don't hit the register button
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      • Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

        People are using webinars because there is nothing that sells like them as far as sales platforms go
        This is 100% correct. There is NOTHING at the moment that scores higher conversion rates than webinars. I talk first-hand educated experience here.
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        • Profile picture of the author neverlastn
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          This is 100% correct. There is NOTHING at the moment that scores higher conversion rates than webinars. I talk first-hand educated experience here.
          It's so true. It's also instant content. Check out alex mandossian and teleseminar secrets (I think)
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  • Profile picture of the author PMinc
    Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

    Lately, I've been getting inundated with invitations to webinars. I like the concept, and have attended some good ones, but already they've gotten so popular that it's hard to keep up with all of them. The problem as I have with webinars is that they are time consuming -usually more than an hour. There are only so many hours in a day, so as more and more people offer them, it becomes harder to attend more than a small percentage of them.

    I wonder if this is a basic limitation to using the webinar as a business model, unless you're already well known enough to attract many attendees. I think, to combat information overload, there's a lot to be said for the minimalist approach -something you can absorb in a short video or PDF file. Webinars can be fun and informative, but they're seldom dense in terms of actual information. You wait for it to start, sit through the introduction, let the presenter(s) warm up to the topic, and so on.

    I'm certainly not against webinars -in fact, what sparked this topic in my mind was the fact that there are 2 at the same time tomorrow night that I'd like to attend! I know, you can usually download them later, but even if you can watch them at your own leisure (and then you can't interact, of course), there's still the time issue.
    This is an opportunity for you Larry.

    Approach these people are offering the webinars and offer to create a redux version of the webinar, featuring only the key nuggets and sell points.

    This way you can package as many as five one-hour webinars into one volume and get paid to consume the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    John, that's a great idea for a service! I'll have to give that some thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author PMinc
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

      John, that's a great idea for a service! I'll have to give that some thought.
      No problem.

      It would make for a great WSO...

      ...and if you sell a volume of five webinars for five bucks, and reasonably sell 200 copies, you're getting paid $200 for each webinar you sit in on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hans Klein
    Well... most of the time a webinar is there to pitch you something.

    So... they overload you with information... make everything sound so complicated... and then hit you with a solution (or product) to make it all easy again.

    However... the kind of webinar I find most helpful are the ones where there is personal interaction...

    Where they aren't there to sell you anything... and just answer YOUR marketing questions that you're facing at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Simply goes to show it's working, , especially with
    the statistics revealed by Mike Filsaime recently of him
    hitting staggering amounts daily with webinars...
    automated webiners. Everyone wants IN,

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    • Profile picture of the author Spartacus
      Was just thinking about this the other day, I get so many e-mails with invitations for webinars that I can't keep up either. I still want to watch a few of them back, sadly not all of them save them for later viewing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    There is a new WSO with a service called "Webinar Swipes" to answer this problem. They watch 8 - 10 webinars per month and create excellent notes for you. (no affiliation)
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    • Profile picture of the author cashcow
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      There is a new WSO with a service called "Webinar Swipes" to answer this problem. They watch 8 - 10 webinars per month and create excellent notes for you. (no affiliation)
      This sounds like a great service.

      There's plenty of webinars I would like to watch (and even buy their product or service if it suits my business) but, as mentioned above, I really dont have the time. Plus, sometimes they drone on and on taking 90 minuites to say what they could say in 30. That being said, I have been to some good ones where I have learned a lot. I guess I just prefer being able to fast forward and get to the good stuff.

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    • Profile picture of the author LarryC
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      There is a new WSO with a service called "Webinar Swipes" to answer this problem. They watch 8 - 10 webinars per month and create excellent notes for you. (no affiliation)
      So someone has already thought of the idea suggested above by John Breese. It makes sense to condense and summarize all that content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      There is a new WSO with a service called "Webinar Swipes" to answer this problem. They watch 8 - 10 webinars per month and create excellent notes for you. (no affiliation)
      Webinar cliffs notes. Too funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author EugeneA
    I barely attend webinars anymore.

    They get you all excited about the opportunity and then hit you with the

    "BUY NOW", and then your like "awwww":confused:

    BTW, lots of webinars are simply videos trying to sell you somthing.

    Find the good ones that offer info and attend them.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Glad I'm on a slower Internet connection and don't subscribe to many lists. Nothing would bore me more than sitting around watching webinars.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebusinesstutor
    Good points, Larry.

    I do webinars, but I also capture them so people can later on go and access them as needed. So when it is time to do a lead capture page, for example, they can go watch a video on lead capture pages.

    Much like how fewer and fewer people are watching network TV at the hour it actually airs. Instead, we record it or get it on Netflix.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    I heard lately that the average IMer (not necessarily average successful ones- just average meaning not making money) watches 3 webinars a week.

    To me, that's kinda crazy- but marketers wouldn't be using them if they didn't work!
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  • Profile picture of the author marcuslim
    Yes, certainly a lot of the most important pieces of information you get from webinars can be easily condensed into a 2-3 page pdf, however webinars do have a much higher perceived value than just a pdf from a marketing standpoint. Webinars also address the three learning styles of visual, audio and kinesthetic, which make them such an attractive medium to teach AND sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Well brace yourselves because Mike Filsaime just released a product that automates webinars so now you'll get a whole wave of new webinars springing up all over the place.

    The part that makes me go LOL is everyone knows they are automated so just giving a video or PDF might as well be the norm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Well brace yourselves because Mike Filsaime just released a product that automates webinars so now you'll get a whole wave of new webinars springing up all over the place.

      The part that makes me go LOL is everyone knows they are automated so just giving a video or PDF might as well be the norm.
      A lot of folks here on the forum maybe but outside there are a lot of folks who probably don't have a clue they're being hustled.

      I don't know Mike's new software at all so I'm not talking about his new product but there was a software sold here that did that. You could even have it show "people" dropping in and out during the "live webinar" and other features to deceive people into thinking they're attending a live webinar when it's just a video.

      Real webinar software is expensive at $100/month so this opens it up to folks who can't even afford the real deal.

      I don't have a problem with automation but then it's not really a webinar.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Well that's certainly true. I guess if you were in a market outside internet marketing and used a bit of hustle you could setup a whole pocket full of webinars for affiliate products.

        You could produce 5 different ones and use them as part of your sale funnel in your autoresponder.

        Mike Hill



        Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

        A lot of folks here on the forum maybe but outside there are a lot of folks who probably don't have a clue they're being hustled.

        I don't know Mike's new software at all so I'm not talking about his new product but there was a software sold here that did that. You could even have it show "people" dropping in and out during the "live webinar" and other features to deceive people into thinking they're attending a live webinar when it's just a video.

        Real webinar software is expensive at $100/month so this opens it up to folks who can't even afford the real deal.

        I don't have a problem with automation but then it's not really a webinar.
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  • Profile picture of the author sogregory
    I attended a webiner last night about selling webiners...it's kinda old news for me but fits in well with what i have been doing for over 11 years....

    there is deffo a lot of webiner courses or 'how to' appearing...that is a sign of demand or decline...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Johnson
    Those people who are crushing it online, that is making great money take action and implament.

    It's really as simple as that.

    If your getting started then attending webinars is smart to a point.

    Sooner or later you have to be in control
    You have to figure out which methods and tactics to leverage.

    - affiliate
    - cpa
    - product creation
    - kindle
    - adsense

    Ect ...

    If you do not select you path on your own you will struggle, plain and simple.

    >> Figure out what you want to do.

    >> Find someone who is already having the success your after.

    >> Copy them.

    Good luck ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    In the internet marketing "make money" world when a strategy gets popular... everyone does it and sooner or later the small world of Internet Marketers get inundated with it and then tired of it.

    However, in the outside universe... where people market products of endless variety to markets of endless variety... not everyone is being marketed to with webinars. So when general market people find a webinar on a subject they are interested in then its the funnel that does the work once the traffic is there... not the guru reputation. The webinar does the selling.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjones70
    I enjoy webinars overall, but I hate it when the speaker goes into this long drawn out introduction and then beats around the bush to get to where he is going. If you are selling something, then sell it, if you are offering coaching then get to it lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    I'm in the UK and usually miss webinars because of time differences or if they're earlier I'm just too busy.

    When the replays come up I usually try to see if I can see the raw file in the source code so I can then watch them on my laptop at my convenience and speed them up.

    If I can't manage to download them then I usually don't bother.
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