Internet Marketing: Is it Better To Learn Slow Or Fail Fast To Succeed?

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There seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to success. One school of thought says the following ...

1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster

The other school of thought says the following ...

2. Start slow or even take your time getting started. The upside is fewer mistakes are made. But many risk the danger of the dreaded paralysis of analysis or other distractions.

Which course of action do you prescribe to, what's worked best for you?

Personally when I first started I leaned toward number one, but as I grow more experienced I'm slowly drifting toward number two.
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  • Profile picture of the author ironpump21
    I say what every works that person. Some people are go getters and don's care if they make a few mistakes and some people are more caution and try not to make any mistakes. so it depends of the type of person i think.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bio Clean
      Originally Posted by ironpump21 View Post

      I say what every works that person. Some people are go getters and don's care if they make a few mistakes and some people are more caution and try not to make any mistakes. so it depends of the type of person i think.
      I suppose one can be overly cautious and be afraid to do anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    There seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to success. One school of thought says the following ...

    1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster

    The other school of thought says the following ...

    2. Start slow or even take your time getting started. The upside is fewer mistakes are made. But many risk the danger of the dreaded paralysis of analysis or other distractions.

    Which course of action do you prescribe to, what's worked best for you?

    Personally when I first started I leaned toward number one, but as I grow more experienced I'm slowly drifting toward number two.
    I think it depends on the person, but the important thing is to get doing as much as you can when you learn enough to take a step forward. Just like anything, you learn more by doing, and you get better with practice.

    You'll always learn more by doing and no matter how much people read to prevent mistakes, they'll still make them. Some people think they know a lot about internet marketing because they read a lot about, but that's just touching the surface, especially when most training out there is very basic and fragmented.

    I think a big issue that causes info overload is that people try and figure out everything before they take action, which will just make them become more confused.

    I think people will always be better off if they learn enough to take action to complete one step, then learn more, to execute the next step and so on -- would teach them much more for they'll get the practical knowledge learned on the way as they actually progress their business.

    As a reformed perfectionist, I do enough needed to get going and I can always tweak things later. I'm not as productive as I wish to be, but the important thing is I'm growing, and KNOW I'll learn more in the process than spending too much reading about something.

    The content always has to be very good, but I try not to nit pick as much and I know I can always come back and tweak it and I don't fuss over graphic headers and stuff at this point until the sites are ranking well. I come from a design background too, but I know that it is not the most important thing, especially when working on SEO with WordPress sites.

    In addition, I think it is very important to stay focused and consistent one business model and a main traffic source until it runs very smoothly and feels like second nature. It can take some time to master something and get the kinks out, and once we've done that we can work on being even more efficient, and then possibly move on to another business model or traffic source at that point.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    I remember reading a story of two people in the desert....

    One guy was going to the well getting water and selling it. The other guy created a business plan, got investors and 2 years later owned an ice plant in the desert.

    As wonderful as the story I just said....the bottom line is you have to do whats best for you. I like the number 1 theorom. Why? because sometime I am not into all the non sense, lets just get it done.

    Your number 1 is how subway owner started.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidtong
    I agree, some people like to experiment and learn along the way, some prefer a clear/guided route and learn from a single avenue at a time...

    Personally, for IM, I'd prefer a single-route, learn-from-a-program/system/course type of approach as there is just so much info out there and conflicting ones too... You enter a state of analysis-paralysis and you just don't know which pool to jump in first.

    Taking the first step is key, but after you do take that first step, it's important to know which direction you want to try out first.

    It also depends on how much time and risk you have... The lower the risk and longer the time for experimentation, the more you can afford to diversify.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Learn quickly and fail quickly (f-o-c-u-s). That will get 'er done!

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  • Profile picture of the author EugeneA
    Looking back now... I didn't take much action.

    I was always caught up on making things perfect, which is good, but making things

    perfect falls as a detail, which can be done later.

    I eventualy did start taking more action and did a bit less thinking which has

    helped.

    As an IM'er you Do Not have time to do things slowly, take ACTION... if your product

    is imperfect you can always go back and tidy up. If you make mistakes then "oh well"

    fix them later, just know not to do the same next time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacko
      the best way is learn doing and failing fast.
      But it took some time to me to understand
      and implement that.
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  • Profile picture of the author melltonroper
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post


    1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster
    Learning from previous mistakes is the beast teacher and the best lessons to get that might lead you to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author infoprofits
    KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid

    I am a part timer that currently runs 7 sites and works a full time factory job. It takes time to get where I'm at. 5 years for me, with the first 2 spent wasting my time on html and css and beginners php...

    Then I met wordpress and in 3 years I have built what I have now. I still use that knowledge to tweak my own sites and even build a few sales sites in html. Any way good luck and don't expect big results unless you know somebody that can promote your product/service for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
      I agree with the rest, it basically depends on and varies for each type of person, others are too ardent and would like to start as soon as possible, meanwhile the slowly but surely approach works for some. As for me I device a plan and then test it out, the sooner it is tested the sooner I know if it's effective or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author davidjames42973
        I vote for trying things out and failing as quickly as possible. I have learned the best lessons from failing. Because of my failures I have actually learned how to succeed...
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  • Profile picture of the author handy
    I would definitely choose option 1 - Fail FAST and Learn FAST. But do it cheaply so your mistakes are not costly.

    And you only really learn by DOING, not reading ebooks...
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  • Profile picture of the author spideysteve
    Doesn't it depend on the personality and how that person learns? Some people need a step-by-step guide, others prefer to dive in and just go. I think this question is related quite a bit to personality type. The way that one person became successful is likely very different than how another person did it.
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  • Profile picture of the author confidencemagnet
    For me, I think that failing fast can be annoying but at least your content and work is out there. You may luck up on someone buying your products. You should however, be patient and learn more so failure will minimize faster. You don't want to make failure a habit, but you want to have an action-oriented mind. I put together a free eBook on how to accelerate the learning process. These are things I've learned within a two year period. I am not a guru and I still have a lot to learn, but I did learn a lot of cool stuff with free programs and resources to give you a jumpstart to improve your success in a shorter period of time
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    • Profile picture of the author confidencemagnet
      [QUOTE=confidencemagnet;4465953]For me, I think that failing fast can be annoying but at least your content and work is out there. You may luck up on someone buying your products. You should however, be patient and learn more so failure will minimize faster. You don't want to make failure a habit, but you want to have an action-oriented mind. I put together a free eBook on how to accelerate the learning process. These are things I've learned within a two year period. I am not a guru and I still have a lot to learn, but I did learn a lot of cool stuff with free programs and resources to give you a jumpstart to improve your success in a shorter period of time

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      • Profile picture of the author Dahlia Valentine
        I'm actually a little bit of both.

        I start off with the intent of failing fast because quite honestly no amount of planning is going to stop the inevitable pitfalls you're going to nosedive into along the way.

        Once I get a few failures out of the way, the smoke begins to clear and I see what I REALLY need to be focusing on. So I use fast failures as a way to gain clarity and then I can plan a more concise strategy from there.

        Sometimes when you do too much planning up front you're wasting a lot of time working on the wrong stuff. To me, only real life experience will make the path clear to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I think in the beginning I learned more from fast failures than slow learning. I'm action oriented so tried a lot of stuff until some things finally started to work. I learn a lot more by doing than by reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    There seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to success. One school of thought says the following ...

    1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster
    ****I prefer this option because you can make some money along the way. Making mistakes is how most of us learn and you can't make mistakes if you are not putting in the time and working towards success.

    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    The other school of thought says the following ...

    2. Start slow or even take your time getting started. The upside is fewer mistakes are made. But many risk the danger of the dreaded paralysis of analysis or other distractions.

    Which course of action do you prescribe to, what's worked best for you?

    Personally when I first started I leaned toward number one, but as I grow more experienced I'm slowly drifting toward number two.
    The second option will find most new marketers getting discouraged and quitting. They will also end up hopping from one method to another.

    I say if you are new to internet marketing you start out with one program and work the hell out of it until you understand the method in and out. Then, move on if you need to and learn from your mistakes as you go.

    Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim X
    For me it ended up being Number 2. If I had some "startup" money in the beginning I probably could have gotten started a lot faster.

    Number 1 has it's benefits. Like, "get it done now and fix any mistakes along the way".
    However, Number 2 also has benefits. Such as the ability to hear the information and process it over a little time.

    I think if you can balance both techniques, it can work out well.

    For example: #2 technique. Take your time and learn the basics. What is a list? How does affiliate marketing work? Etc.

    #1 technique. Put into action what you've learned. Fix any problems along the way.

    The way I see it is you have to know a little about something before you dive headfirst into it. And if that means taking some time to learn about it first, then that's what it takes.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Reed7
    Golden Rule: Get 1 Beta site up and running that works, meeting your expectations.
    Plan on mistakes/learning curve on the way, plus some frustration.
    Once you get one working right, all balanced and performing, then, and only then do you step forward with no. 2...-Repeat the recipe

    Gosh, how many times have you heard that ?
    88 domains and 1 year later....then #89 worked...! -Go figure/do the math...!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    It doesn't necessarily mean that if you learn fast you fail fast and if you learn slow the slower you fail. It depends on how you run your business. You have to take some time to learn something before you implement. The rest you'll have to learn as you go along.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMWinner
    It really depends on the person, since there are people who learn the lesson from their mistakes in a quick way manner and there are those who don't realize the lesson that they had. Basically, the process is to slowly learn the basics on what we do. Since there are no shortcuts to success, one has to undergo the process. I will not say that the process are always slow, it is really up to the learner whether he/she is a fast learner or takes time for him/her to learn the lesson. As to Internet Marketing, it really takes some time to familiarize and to start earning some money on the web.
    On the other hand, an early introduction to a failure will also help a person to improve on himself or to correct himself before he would venture deeper into the world of Internet Marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is whether or not the person understands the difference between "failing fast" and "bailing out at the first sign of trouble."

      I think bailing out too fast is the yang to 'paralysis by analysis'' ying.

      Neither one will get you where you want to go, but both sound perfectly reasonable when you're in the middle of them.

      NicheMan, I think that what you describe for yourself is perfectly natural. As time goes by, you have more and more life experience to judge future outcomes against.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is whether or not the person understands the difference between "failing fast" and "bailing out at the first sign of trouble."

        I think bailing out too fast is the yang to 'paralysis by analysis'' ying.

        Neither one will get you where you want to go, but both sound perfectly reasonable when you're in the middle of them.
        Good point. I made some long posts in a private forum I help out about that, and overcoming procrastination. Success in anything comes by practice, and you may not necessarily fail when you try something, but learn what you could have done and what you should do the next time around -- and each time working on something specific, you improve.

        My main failure to date with internet marketing or what would be more appropriately addressed as the reason for my "lack of success" was due to not allowing myself to fail -- or make mistakes. No matter what many IM Launch nuts say about they help you prevent mistakes, the truth is you'll only become good at something when you actively work at it consistently or in other words... practice. As the saying goes "practice makes perfect"... NOT "reading more makes perfect".

        I'm not saying not to read, for I do research on stuff to make sure I can prevent major mistakes when doing things, and because I'm in the top percentile for analytical reasoning, I have to be able to wrap my brain around something somewhat. Not everyone is the same, but it is important to break things down and once you've learned a bit, move on and execute. Then, if you don't know the next step, do some research, then take that next step.

        People shouldn't try to be learning it all before they get started, for like everything else, you will never progress that way.

        Some people are wondering why they have information overload, and main reason is that they do not apply what they learn, and are learning about x,y,z traffic method and do not know how to do proper niche research, or are not concentrating solely on what they need to know next.

        The half cracked IM courses with tons of holes in them, and reading a bunch of promotional emails, and sales pages about methods people don't need NOW adds to the confusion people have.

        People should focus on learning one thing, then applying it, then learn from mistakes, then master it -- before moving on to learning anything else. But, I like I said everyone is different, so some people may need less details to get started, but it is crucial to not go to far ahead of yourself and apply each little step learned, before moving forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnates
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    There seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to success. One school of thought says the following ...

    1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster

    The other school of thought says the following ...

    2. Start slow or even take your time getting started. The upside is fewer mistakes are made. But many risk the danger of the dreaded paralysis of analysis or other distractions.

    Which course of action do you prescribe to, what's worked best for you?

    Personally when I first started I leaned toward number one, but as I grow more experienced I'm slowly drifting toward number two.
    I completely disagree with the slow route . The reason is that you just won't take any action if you are so cautious not to make a mistake .

    The whole fail fast thing doesn't apply because hopefully you are not trying to wing it yourself . You have a mentor who has laid some steps for you to follow and you stick to the instructions like glue and continue to apply them UNTIL you see some success

    ~femi
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I'm all about failing fast, personally. That said, it can lead to jumping around on projects too much until you realize doing that in and of itself is a failure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hartigan
    Sometimes when you make a mistake you become complacent and don't go back to fix it nor do you start again, you're in a rut. Probably easier if you do everything slowly and efficiently the first time
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  • Profile picture of the author stvbarb89
    Originally Posted by The Niche Man View Post

    There seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to success. One school of thought says the following ...

    1. Just get started and get the mistakes and learning experiences out of the way and you'll progress and achieve success faster

    The other school of thought says the following ...

    2. Start slow or even take your time getting started. The upside is fewer mistakes are made. But many risk the danger of the dreaded paralysis of analysis or other distractions.

    Which course of action do you prescribe to, what's worked best for you?

    Personally when I first started I leaned toward number one, but as I grow more experienced I'm slowly drifting toward number two.





    Personally i read for a long long time before i ever took any action, I think though that it would have been way better if I would have just dived right into it.

    I found that once I quit worrying about doing everything right and just went right in got my hands dirty I understood what was going on. It was like the difference between looking on the outside and finally being in.

    If i could give a point of advice it would be just to jump right in and make mistakes along the way you learn 10 times faster by doing. Everyone is different though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Winleet
    Failing fast definitely. Get get the knowledge much quicker, and the knowledge is better that the do it nice and slow way.
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    • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
      Fail fast but fail in the same area. Stay focused on the area you want to succeed in.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSEOWizard
    I always say SEO and everything about websites is "trial and error". Nobody is perfect or can guarantee to be perfect however experienced he/she is. You will always learn and bounce back better as you fail. But more important is LEARN and dont make failing a habit. It should make you even stronger to bite back harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtimes
    NUMBER 1! You will not succeed any other way!
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    'One who fears failure limits his activities. Failure is only the opportunity to more intelligently begin again.'

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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Lessey
    I speak from a personal sence where I am tend to take my time in creating products and setting up sales flows to testing and copywriting. One the flip side, we tend to be perfectionist and we feel that time is on our side

    I think its worth more if you create a process and follow it step by step.
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