How much should i expect from these 20k subscribers?

13 years ago

The conventional wisdom is $1/month/subscriber but this varies greatly depending on your relationship with your list. Numbers I've seen varies from cents to $20/month/subscriber.

It also depends on whether you're constantly promoting to your list. I don't because I want to focus on the relationship first, and only promote offers later.

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whitebread

13 years ago

Awesome!! just what i expected to hear

Originally Posted by handy

The conventional wisdom is $1/month/subscriber but this varies greatly depending on your relationship with your list. Numbers I've seen varies from cents to $20/month/subscriber.

It also depends on whether you're constantly promoting to your list. I don't because I want to focus on the relationship first, and only promote offers later.

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emory27

13 years ago

wow, how do you plan to build such a large list so fast? As far as conversionsions handy isnt too far off but keep in mind that proper care and upkeep of a list is huge. i myself work from a principal of 1/3 meaning only 1/3 emails i send contain affiliate links the other 2/3 are educational or freebies. This is extremely important when it comes to keeping a responsive list. 99% of marketers batter the heck out of there lists and their subscribers dont even read the titles let alone open their mails, make friends first and sell to them second. Its taken me a long time to get this mentality my first list was beaten down every day ide send an offer and my CTR was horrible, now i can expect huge conversions any time i send an offer out to my list.

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magnates

13 years ago

Originally Posted by whitebread

Hey warriors,

Me and my partner are working on a new project, We will be building 20,000 subscribers this week (Highly Targeted)

His main concern is how much can he expect to make within 1 month after building the list. We will be promoting Cpa Offers and maybe do a pre lauch at the end of the month.

Please warriors, He needs your answers Asap.

That said $1/month/Subscriber is proverbial and there is a lot of factors to consider.

It depends on the quality of your content and how well you build a relationship with you subscribers and if your traffic source is highly targeted and are interested in what you have to say in the first place

If you do all this right you could make way more than $1/month

Apart from a product launch or massive investment in PPC, i don't know you are going to build a 20k list in one week. I am always happy to learn more. How else can you build a targeted list of 20k in a week ??

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stopper

13 years ago

that 20 k a week is amazing

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Andyhenry

13 years ago

Do not set expectations based on random forum theories - you will be very disappointed.

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Mike Hill

13 years ago

I think the $1 per month per subscriber comes from the notion that the product you are selling or promoting costs in excess of $2,000 or more.

Here's the reason why I think this is somewhat true, at least for the $1 a month per subscriber figure:

1. The people who started saying this in this industry had $2K products.

2. It's simple math. Figure out how many products you'd need to sell at the $2K price point if you had 100,000 people on your list. (To value your list at $1 per subscriber would mean that you'd only need to sell 50 units. Even as an affiliate for your buddies 2K product you'd only need 100 sales.)

So I think the $1 per month per subscriber is somewhat skewed.

If you sell a lower priced product then you are going to have to sell a lot more units to make your 100,000 subscribers worth $1 to you every month.

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

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richgrad

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

I think the $1 per month per subscriber comes from the notion that the product you are selling or promoting costs in excess of $2,000 or more.

Here's the reason why I think this is somewhat true, at least for the $1 a month per subscriber figure:

1. The people who started saying this in this industry had $2K products.

2. It's simple math. Figure out how many products you'd need to sell at the $2K price point if you had 100,000 people on your list. (To value your list at $1 per subscriber would mean that you'd only need to sell 50 units. Even as an affiliate for your buddies 2K product you'd only need 100 sales.)

So I think the $1 per month per subscriber is somewhat skewed.

If you sell a lower priced product then you are going to have to sell a lot more units to make your 100,000 subscribers worth $1 to you every month.

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

right on bro!

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Cideas

13 years ago

WAY too many factors involved to tell, WAY too many. Traffic/subscribers source and targetting, the quality of the relationship you are able to create, niche/category, the quality of the first product they purchase from you... those are just the few, I could come up with a hundred of them

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myob

13 years ago

Any fool can build a list of 20,000 subscribers. But getting them to take action is what marketing is all about.

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David Keith

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Any fool can build a list of 20,000 subscribers. But getting them to take action is what marketing is all about.

not many fools can build a list of 20k people in a week...lol

hell, many very intelligent people with really strong connections and a serious bank roll would have trouble creating a list of 20k from 0 in a week.

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myob

13 years ago

Originally Posted by owslaw123

not many fools can build a list of 20k people in a week...lol

Ahem. Here's a fool who says he'll do it for you too - for $3,800. Look familiar? LOL!

I will build you a list of 20,000 subscribers

Seems to me the OP has some 'splaining to do.

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Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Ahem. Here's a fool who says he'll do it for you too - for $3,800. Look familiar? LOL!

I will build you a list of 20,000 subscribers

Seems to me the OP has some 'splaining to do.

ah, Thanks for the reveal!

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whitebread 13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Any fool can build a list of 20,000 subscribers. But getting them to take action is what marketing is all about.

Once again you are wrong..not any fool can build a list of 20k because you can't.
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- David Keith 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by whitebread
  
  Once again you are wrong..not any fool can build a list of 20k because you can't.
  
  so whats your open rate on the typical 20k list you build in about 2 days time? how about your spam complaint rate?
  
  com'n man...many of us have been doing this a very long time and we are not fooled easily.
  
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- myob 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by whitebread
  
  Once again you are wrong..not any fool can build a list of 20k because you can't.
  
  As shown in this thread we have found the fool, and 20,000 is a half day's work for me. :p
  
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  whitebread 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by myob
  
  As shown in this thread we have found the fool, and 20,000 is a half day's work for me. :p
  
  Ok master you won . You are the best.
  
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  myob 13 years ago
  
  Among the best.
  
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Giani

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

I think the $1 per month per subscriber comes from the notion that the product you are selling or promoting costs in excess of $2,000 or more.

Here's the reason why I think this is somewhat true, at least for the $1 a month per subscriber figure:

1. The people who started saying this in this industry had $2K products.

2. It's simple math. Figure out how many products you'd need to sell at the $2K price point if you had 100,000 people on your list. (To value your list at $1 per subscriber would mean that you'd only need to sell 50 units. Even as an affiliate for your buddies 2K product you'd only need 100 sales.)

So I think the $1 per month per subscriber is somewhat skewed.

If you sell a lower priced product then you are going to have to sell a lot more units to make your 100,000 subscribers worth $1 to you every month.

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

I have couple of comments here:

1. It is difficult to sell a $2K product and hence your assumption to sell 50 units from 100K subscribers is correct. But there are many products which will get you $20-25 per unit.

2. I have heard and known too that success rate is 1% which means if you send sales email to 100K subscribers, you can get 1K unit sales.

3. If you send one sales email every week, then you can get 1k x 4 unit sales. If your commission is $20 - 25, then you are achieving $80k - 100 k a month. This means $1 per subscriber per month.

Is there anything wrong in my calculations?

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Mike Hill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Giani

I have couple of comments here:

1. It is difficult to sell a $2K product and hence your assumption to sell 50 units from 100K subscribers is correct. But there are many products which will get you $20-25 per unit.

2. I have heard and known too that success rate is 1% which means if you send sales email to 100K subscribers, you can get 1K unit sales.

3. If you send one sales email every week, then you can get 1k x 4 unit sales. If your commission is $20 - 25, then you are achieving $80k - 100 k a month. This means $1 per subscriber per month.

Is there anything wrong in my calculations?

It comes down to the relationship you have with your current subscribers and the system you have in place to constantly replenish your list with those who are unsubscribing.

Are these subscribers going to make a $20 - $25 purchase every month?

I didn't say it was impossible, just skewed because $1 per month per subscriber is definitely NOT the norm in this industry.

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Benjamin Ehinger

13 years ago

The best way to go is to set no expectations because you have to build a relationship with these people or you will waste quite a few of the subscribers. You cannot just promote to them and expect to make money. They need to trust you. Then, you can see what you get on a regular basis and get an expected monthly amount from your own testing.

Don't trust averages in any forum because what one person makes on average may differ quite a bit from what you make.

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Jacob Cuculiza

13 years ago

Exspect nothing, but hope for the 1$/month/subs

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Zero

13 years ago

Originally Posted by whitebread

Hey warriors,

Me and my partner are working on a new project, We will be building 20,000 subscribers this week (Highly Targeted)

His main concern is how much can he expect to make within 1 month after building the list. We will be promoting Cpa Offers and maybe do a pre lauch at the end of the month.

Please warriors, He needs your answers Asap.

That depends entirely on you. If you've done a good job building a relationship with them, and given them good value, and are capable of selling to them on the offer you're promoting - then you could do really well...

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Mike Hill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by whitebread

Hey warriors,

Me and my partner are working on a new project, We will be building 20,000 subscribers this week (Highly Targeted)

His main concern is how much can he expect to make within 1 month after building the list. We will be promoting Cpa Offers and maybe do a pre lauch at the end of the month.

Please warriors, He needs your answers Asap.

You claim to be a list building professional so you should already know the answer...

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...eads-test.html

EPIC FAIL

So in essence you are going to pay another company to get you leads for your customers. But you have charged double so I guess you are going to build your list for free as well?

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whitebread 13 years ago

I would like to say thanks to all the honest warriors who helped answer my question. And I would also like to say thanks to all my haters. Bottom line is I can build my 20k list within 2 days any hater wants to compete ill prove I am the best there is point blank. This has nothing to do with my last wso.
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- myob 13 years ago
  
  The problem you have here, Mr List Building Professional, was that you had an agenda here, to use the generosity of our responses to justify the cost of your WSO against us. Failure to disclose this ulterior motive is a justifiable epic failure.
  
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ahtum

13 years ago

Epic fail.

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